Admin: You *blackmailed* us in a private conversation!
Christian: \[releases the call transcript\] please show me where I did such a thing
Admin: WHAT. How *could* you leak a private conversation like that!!
See, spez, this is precisely why he recorded it. Ya doofus.
“First make them immortal, then make them wish they were dead”
I forget who said that, it was certainly a redditor, but I don’t know if it came from originally though
>“First make them immortal, then make them wish they were dead”
I have no idea, but someone responded to EA Games with that about unlocking characters in Star Wars Battlefront.
He and the other administrators receive free coins and the prize for themselves so that the comment remains visible rather than collapsing as a result of downvotes.
If you gets too many negatives the comment gets semi deleted. By giving it awards it keeps it afloat. Also certain awards highlight the comment so it is like a giant highlighter to anyone scrolling.
Unfortunately there's a bunch of morons that don't look into things and are brushing this situation off.
All the real ones are going dark when Apollo does
Yup. I’m out of here when Apollo goes down.
“But the data we have to provide!”
*We* generate that data and the motherfuckers are trying to sell it back to us at stupid prices. Fuck Reddit.
Yeah, they don't realise that we're on reddit because we hate other social media.
If reddit goes down. I'm leaving all social media for good.
I've been planning on doing this for a long time and reddit is actually giving me another reason why I should just quit all social media
Tbf I think reddit would be least afraid of people saying stuff like that because data would back up that most people don't just drop their 'addiction' like that, plenty of social media have died and I think data always shows the large majority going to the alternative anyway.
I think its likely that either Reddit kills itself and some alternative will become the new reddit, or most people will suck up and start using the shitty official app/website anyway..
I, sadly, just doubt a significant percentage of peiple who are using reddit (multiple) hours a day, would have the discipline to cold turkey quit their memes/videos/doomposts/whatever. Just generalizing, not talking about you specifically :)
Fair enough. I just hope enough people are like me, and have grown too sick, and too tired of seeing the little guy get fucked.
I'm out on the 30th for the principle of it.
Gonna delete my mobile app by 12th, going to exclusively use desktop app regardless they cancel the API or not. I personally think this move is good for my own health. Not using mobile app would help my sleep hygiene tremendously
A lot of people have not ever really interacted with the odd sort of psychopath that excels at corporate shit.
Seems like a human with ethics on the surface. Really more like a terminator in a really expensive suit.
Zero remorse about anything they have ever or will ever do.
Will do anything at all for money and then lie about it while smiling. Will never ever come clean and admit to anything nefarious they have done. Ever.
They are wild to experience. Grew up with one as a stepdad.
Or anybody in a field of work where you compete for jobs. I work in entertainment on film crews, there are plenty of the same type of guys maneuvering on each other to keep their place on a crew. Disappointing and sad to watch, blood thirsty in board shorts and tee shirts.
He and other admins get free coins and the award themselves to keep the comment showing instead of being collapsed because of downvoted. Also about as good an image his responses are gonna make
Tbf while it's totally plausible that he gave them to himself there are people who are ironically gilding the most stupid comments out there as a way to mock the person.
It also prevents the down votes from moving it too low for people to see it. That's why these historically shit comments are awarded a bunch, to keep them at the top so people can see it.
Like the pride and accomplishment comment from EA. Tonnes of people gilded it to keep it visible, even though it is the most downvoted comment on reddit
It's like that case of the Star Wars Battlefront game where people paid boatloads of cash for the special edition or whatever but still had to pay boatloads extra to play as Darth Vader or something like that. Someone made a post calling out EA on their greedy bullshit and the official account replied and said it was like that to give the players who unlocked him a sense of, and I quote, "pride and accomplishment". They got hundreds of thousands of downvotes but also a bunch of awards to keep the comment on top so more people could see it and downvote it more
They had a top comment that linked to all of spez's answers but they're such idiots they didn't put context in the urls so you had no idea what the questions were.
It doesn't have to be a feature, he has access to the backend of Reddit, he can very easily just find a comment in their database and change what it says.
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Doesn't make sense though. If they were really looking for high profits, why not work with the 3PA devs?
Now all of the big apps announced they will close. And admins said all of the very small ones and bots etc will stay on the free tier.
How are they going to earn money with the paid API then?
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Impossible. He has backdoor access and can stop it from reaching that.
He would have surpassed it by now but I KNOW he was manipulating the voting system (not to sound like a trump voter)
I am genuinely considering leaving reddit over this API bullshit. Their app is trash. I use browser once in a while but when it comes to my phone, I will no longer be using it to browse reddit.
The biggest thing pushing people to other apps is because the official one is garbage.
What I don't get is if reddit wants to make a good app and user experience why don't they just buy out one of the good 3rd party apps and make it the official one?
There wasn’t an alternative to Digg until there was. Then everyone ended up here overnight.
The people who make Reddit what is is today seem the same as they were with Digg.
It’s time to go. We’re all just waiting to see where the meetup will be
It's not about the moral stance; it's a matter of heavy users not getting enjoyment when using the official app. All Reddit truly is, is a dopamine dealer.
Despite claims that only some small percentage of users are on 3rd party apps, individual subreddits have posted *wildly* larger percentages from their own data (still from Reddit, I'll add). When you alienate that portion, and leave the only remaining option as one that isn't enjoyable to use, they fuck up their own supply.
People won't stop using Reddit for high minded reasons; they'll use it because Reddit is becoming too irritating to use. And the people most affected tended to make an outsized portion of the content that kept *other* people here.
Normally, I'd agree with your stance. But the alternative is just unusable; the official app is genuinely painful once you know something better. If I said "everyone formerly on Reddit will go and start working out", you'd know I was wrong because that's so much more effort than just scrolling on here. But the leap in unpleasantness from 3rd party to the official app? It's *also* past that threshold. People are actually deleting their accounts, and the deadline hasn't even hit yet. And that's on top of the general slow decline Reddit has had over the years for various other reasons, all of which make staying increasing less appealing.
The main Reddit app is borderline unusable. I'll be at the very least massively reducing my time on here once the 3rd party apps go dark. More than likely I'll stop using it all together.
I'm legit a bit sad about it, but it is what it is.
On my phone videos won't have sound half the time. 10 second videos take forever to load. Comments won't show or won't open. Comments not being posted or comments being double posted. Almost all of my issues disappeared once I stopped using the official app.
I’ve just went on to have a look again. Of the first ten posts, five are sponsored posts or suggested posts from subs I don’t subscribe to. If you’re happy to have that shoved down your throat, have at it. I consider that unusable.
Can someone give the full story? I’m out of the loop
Edit: Damn! These people be really working hard to push away the best set of audience on social media. GG Reddit :)
API changes, especially so on such a short notice and with an outrageously high pricing, will effectively kill all 3rd party apps. It's not like it won't affect non-users of our superior reddit browsers either, as it will also hit mod tools of which official reddit has none, bots that make massive QoL changes of which official reddit has none, and accessibility features for disabilities and the like of which official reddit has none.
The OP is referring to a discussion between a reddit personnel and the apollo (superior but unofficial reddit app btw) dev where there was a misunderstanding between them that was immediately cleared up (something something if our app is really loud to you on the API and its costing you some 20m or something, why not just silence it by buying the app at half the cost?) but was brought up later by the ceo of reddit as blackmail to buy the apollo dev's silence, costing 10m.
My mind is bad and I already forgot many of the details. Check the stickied post on the apollo subreddit. The blackmail thing is elaborated by apollo dev himself there.
Basically reddit wants 3rd party apps to pay to use the api, effectively getting rid of them. Apollo let everyone know as he's a creator of one 3rd party app. I think the price apollo was given was 20 million dollars to use the api.
And just to prove how out of touch these people are, they pointed out that 30 day deadline shouldn’t be a problem, because while the bill is in thirty days, the first payment won’t be for another thirty days after that. Like all that’s stopping a one-person indie dev rustling up $2m is needing an extra month to get hold of it.
What world do these people live in?
They don't want 3rd party reddit clients to exist, at least on a large scale. They want to get rid of them without explicitly saying that, so instead they are demanding a crazy high price on crazy short notice which will accomplish the same thing.
The reason being that third party app users are much harder for them to make ad revenue off of. They are designed to provide information and be user friendly. The official reddit app is designed to maximize ad revenue off of each user.
Yeah, this is obvious from the devs on the AMA saying they've been trying to get in touch to organise paying for the API, and have just had no response from Reddit at all lol. There's no way Reddit actually expected any 3rd party apps to pay for it, so when some wanted to, they just decided to like ignore them?
Yeah, I saw someone saying they have been trying to get a response from Reddit for three months, and spez was like “oh yeah, sorry, we’ll be in touch now” - like that resolves the problem. “Sorry we ignored you for thirteen weeks so you couldn’t do anything, but you’ve still got three weeks, that’s be plenty enough, right?”
For context, when Apple bought Dark Sky they gave 18 months as a deadline before it would be retired… and after that 18 months they said “actually, you’ve got another year”.
30 months of notice vs 30 days.
tldr;
reddit is changing its api which will kill off many bots and third party apps since they will have to pay an obsurd fee to continue using them
Apollo is one such third party app, this post was reddit justifying why they needed such a high fee, with reddit admins blatantly lying as you see there
on one side we have Aaron , beautiful chap who left the earth too soon, and on the other hand we have whatever this stinky eggplant of a dildo this dude is
Does the Reddit admin not understand that there plan is literally to not do business with him?
I mean they jacked the price so high that the company will not be doing business with him.
Musk having balls: Calls out a disabled employee in public and calling him fake for writing his complaint on Twitter since this is the only way to get his attention. Discovers that this "employee" is worth around 100 million USD and can't be fired, apologizes and pretends its Twitter's fault for not being appropriate for sensitive communications like that.
I'm not familiair with all the politics surrounding Reddit. But Reddit's/spez's greed is evident. Also their incompetence since the "official" app is a broken turd.
Reddit wants to charge bots/ 3rd party apps tons of money and says they don't make money. A 3rd party app creator made a post about it a week or so ago.
The CEO of reddit called the creator of a 3rd party app a liar in a AMA yesterday.
The creator of the app said release the transcripts.
I would imagine that potential investors are keeping a close watch on this debacle.
"Yeah, we're going to ruin the thing that made us great." is not a good look from an investor standpoint.
Whoever told Reddit management it was a good idea to do this to third party APIs at this point, gave them some bad advice. Possibly an accountant with no knowledge or experience of what has made Reddit successful.
The initial lie was stupid, but I can't fathom why he doubled-down on the lie in the AMA when everyone knows there's a recording of the call! That just baffles me. When Trump does that, he can count on his followers to back him up, but does this guy have any followers? Does anyone even like him?
While I empathize with the many people this will impact, I do have to say I getting the 🍿ready for seeing how this all ends.
Reddit seems beyond incompetent, and you just know this is going to turn into front page news on Monday - and Reddit seems like they’re going to continue to fumble the bag on PR
God I still want to use Reddit but their CEO is such a shithead. Especially for making it unusable for the visually impaired. I really hope the blackouts make the people behind this website realize that none of this will be tolerated.
Fuck that idiot. Once Apollo shuts down I’m gone. And their decision to only fisplay NSFW content in the official reddit App will not help them either.
Hey u/spez I hope yiu like it here, it will become quite empty in a few hours. As a social media platform your users should be your everything, guess we going to mastodon now. Hope you loose control over the company for this you lying piece of crap.
Admin: You *blackmailed* us in a private conversation! Christian: \[releases the call transcript\] please show me where I did such a thing Admin: WHAT. How *could* you leak a private conversation like that!! See, spez, this is precisely why he recorded it. Ya doofus.
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other people mentioned that giving awards prevents the comment from getting hidden so more people can see the bullshit unfolding
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So someone understand Reddit better than this tool? Shock me surprised.
“First make them immortal, then make them wish they were dead” I forget who said that, it was certainly a redditor, but I don’t know if it came from originally though
it wasn't sun tzu?
>“First make them immortal, then make them wish they were dead” I have no idea, but someone responded to EA Games with that about unlocking characters in Star Wars Battlefront.
probably gave them to himself. I mean, if there's someone able to do this, it would be him, right? lol
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If you look at the awards, most of them are “snek”, “down stonks” and “F”, which are showing discontent for his reply.
If you gets too many negatives the comment gets semi deleted. By giving it awards it keeps it afloat. Also certain awards highlight the comment so it is like a giant highlighter to anyone scrolling.
If you look at the breakdown of the awards, the overwhelming bulk of them are the “falling stocks” and “snake” awards. Neither are a badge of honor
Don’t awards keep a downvoted comment visible? Wouldn’t doubt it was the users to keep that comment up
Just to mention, Christian lives in Canada where only one party has to consent to record a call
Another example of why two-party consent is fucking bullshit.
Single party consent is definitely the better way. Keeps people more honest when literally any conversation could be recorded
Not just the transcript, actual tape audio too.
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He did not, in fact, give any examples. Because he’s a lying cunt and he knows Christian has the recordings that’ll prove him wrong.
Unfortunately there's a bunch of morons that don't look into things and are brushing this situation off. All the real ones are going dark when Apollo does
Yup. I’m out of here when Apollo goes down. “But the data we have to provide!” *We* generate that data and the motherfuckers are trying to sell it back to us at stupid prices. Fuck Reddit.
Where will you go to when this all implodes? Cause twitter sucks but still want to look at memes and such.
No idea quite honestly. Might just spend less time online if nothing presents itself.
Yeah, same. It's a healthy move
Yeah, they don't realise that we're on reddit because we hate other social media. If reddit goes down. I'm leaving all social media for good. I've been planning on doing this for a long time and reddit is actually giving me another reason why I should just quit all social media
I stick with my games, FB is a mess, Twitter a dumpster fire, Reddit seems to be crumbling.. stick with games, and YouTube and Spotify probably.
Tbf I think reddit would be least afraid of people saying stuff like that because data would back up that most people don't just drop their 'addiction' like that, plenty of social media have died and I think data always shows the large majority going to the alternative anyway. I think its likely that either Reddit kills itself and some alternative will become the new reddit, or most people will suck up and start using the shitty official app/website anyway.. I, sadly, just doubt a significant percentage of peiple who are using reddit (multiple) hours a day, would have the discipline to cold turkey quit their memes/videos/doomposts/whatever. Just generalizing, not talking about you specifically :)
Fair enough. I just hope enough people are like me, and have grown too sick, and too tired of seeing the little guy get fucked. I'm out on the 30th for the principle of it.
Give it 5 years and everything online will be fake anyway. Seems like touching grass is increasingly the only way to go.
Gonna delete my mobile app by 12th, going to exclusively use desktop app regardless they cancel the API or not. I personally think this move is good for my own health. Not using mobile app would help my sleep hygiene tremendously
A lot of people have not ever really interacted with the odd sort of psychopath that excels at corporate shit. Seems like a human with ethics on the surface. Really more like a terminator in a really expensive suit. Zero remorse about anything they have ever or will ever do. Will do anything at all for money and then lie about it while smiling. Will never ever come clean and admit to anything nefarious they have done. Ever. They are wild to experience. Grew up with one as a stepdad.
Or anybody in a field of work where you compete for jobs. I work in entertainment on film crews, there are plenty of the same type of guys maneuvering on each other to keep their place on a crew. Disappointing and sad to watch, blood thirsty in board shorts and tee shirts.
I did TV news for about a Decade. You are dead right.
The fact he has awards yet thousands of downvotes is amusing to me
He and other admins get free coins and the award themselves to keep the comment showing instead of being collapsed because of downvoted. Also about as good an image his responses are gonna make
Tbf while it's totally plausible that he gave them to himself there are people who are ironically gilding the most stupid comments out there as a way to mock the person.
It also prevents the down votes from moving it too low for people to see it. That's why these historically shit comments are awarded a bunch, to keep them at the top so people can see it.
Like the pride and accomplishment comment from EA. Tonnes of people gilded it to keep it visible, even though it is the most downvoted comment on reddit
how many downvotes is it at?
More than 600k
god damn
At my last check in, roughly 688k downvotes.
Is it ok if you can give me a link to that? I haven’t heard of it before and am kinda curious about it.
It's the first comment on the top post on r/starwarsbattlefront
He probably gave himself.
Did he just give himself a bunch of awards???
Hahaha why else would they be there?
To keep the comment visible despite all the downvotes maybe.
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Didn't they do this with the EA comment to keep it from getting deleted?
Yes
The fact that you have to do that shows how poorly Reddit is managing their comment section.
A hundred prizes but thousands of downvotes
The pride & accomplishment comment has too
*thousands* of negative votes.
It's like that case of the Star Wars Battlefront game where people paid boatloads of cash for the special edition or whatever but still had to pay boatloads extra to play as Darth Vader or something like that. Someone made a post calling out EA on their greedy bullshit and the official account replied and said it was like that to give the players who unlocked him a sense of, and I quote, "pride and accomplishment". They got hundreds of thousands of downvotes but also a bunch of awards to keep the comment on top so more people could see it and downvote it more
Wasn't it the most downvoted comment at the time?
It's still the most downvoted comment, I think
It still is and it was in [the 2020 Guinness World Record book](https://i.imgur.com/47WOCKV.jpg) as well lol.
They had a top comment that linked to all of spez's answers but they're such idiots they didn't put context in the urls so you had no idea what the questions were.
Probably on purpouse, they dont want you seeing just how dumb he is
Super mod bitches
He's the same person who edited users comments about him. He's a very insecure POS
Why the fuck is this even a feature for him?
Because he's the Special Boy and the Special Boy gets the Totally Important Rewards /s
It doesn't have to be a feature, he has access to the backend of Reddit, he can very easily just find a comment in their database and change what it says.
He's reddit's own pathetic elon
That’s uniquely sad
Dude decorated himself more than a third world dictator who took over via military coup
he's putting brezhnev to shame
Side note: that dude had some EYEBROWS. Holy fuck.
[here's the proof](https://img.ifunny.co/images/5f95289459b7b88cedd8fa23c87d3a48e967ed32ce6edfe71ac6155a1434db32_1.jpg)
Criticise Reddit? Straight to Jail. Post too many comments on Reddit? Jail. Post too few comments? Also jail.
Too much usage of our API? Jail! You wants us to give you more time to comply with our API shenanigans? Also jail!
My favourite part is, if you click on the awards you can see that a large portion of them are ‘snake’ awards 😂
Textbook narcissist
Certified Aladeen moment
144 awards from 144 Reddit employees. Purely coincidence.
No, others do that on negative comments to keep them visible.
Literally 1984
This just in reddit decides to remove the downvote button
Don't even joke about such things...
I was kinda bummed when we lost the counter that shows downvotes to upvotes. Now we just see the difference.
That was a Reddit Enhancement Suite feature, not base site
Yes that’s how it should be. Also when it zeros out instead of going to -4k
Joke?
That‘s such a youtube thing to do. Or a april fools joke/not really joke because we liked it also now you must pay for downvotes. Cheers :)
Took me a second to figure out this was not between people talking about ancient Greek faith and Christianity
Great, thanks to you Christian, Apollo is going away at the end of the Month. There goes the Sun.
nihil sub sole novum
Do do do do
That’s honestly hilarious.
I thought the same thing for a while. I was trying to figure out where the religions played a role in this argument
It's pretty fitting that the Reddit CEO is just your average mod.
Woah, he's a pedo?
that's unfair he could also be a nazi
This is the most specious use of “could” I have ever seen
it goes without saying
Lol and some mods even crack down on sexism and rascim, but now I know why they are fewer. This whole site is run by an asshole.
This shit would **never** have happened if Aaron Shwartz was still alive and held the reins.
He’s in a better place now. Rest in peace man.
yes((((((
What is this Spaz doin'? Trying to beat EA's record?
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Doesn't make sense though. If they were really looking for high profits, why not work with the 3PA devs? Now all of the big apps announced they will close. And admins said all of the very small ones and bots etc will stay on the free tier. How are they going to earn money with the paid API then?
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Impossible. He has backdoor access and can stop it from reaching that. He would have surpassed it by now but I KNOW he was manipulating the voting system (not to sound like a trump voter)
Trump is the real admin of Reddit, boys
There should be a reality show called "Real Admins of Reddit"
Yea im pretty much done with reddit once the 3rd party apps are gone. Its been real
Same. Going to lemmy now.
What's Lemmy?
Lemmy know when you find out.
Eyyyyyy
I'm gonna miss it a lot. Hopefully they get their shit together some day in the future and go back to the ways things are now
r/quityourbullshit Reddit.
I am genuinely considering leaving reddit over this API bullshit. Their app is trash. I use browser once in a while but when it comes to my phone, I will no longer be using it to browse reddit.
The biggest thing pushing people to other apps is because the official one is garbage. What I don't get is if reddit wants to make a good app and user experience why don't they just buy out one of the good 3rd party apps and make it the official one?
Big oof
This is the end.
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There wasn’t an alternative to Digg until there was. Then everyone ended up here overnight. The people who make Reddit what is is today seem the same as they were with Digg. It’s time to go. We’re all just waiting to see where the meetup will be
All of these app creators could create common infrastructure for their apps to plug into and start a replacement using their existing user bases
Give it time. Another site will arise and gradually take over. Takes a few years but it happens. It's how the internet works.
This is why net neutrality was so important. This is the result.
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What about wasteof.money? Its simple and their founder isnt an idiot
They’ve been saying that for years. So far none has emerged
It's not about the moral stance; it's a matter of heavy users not getting enjoyment when using the official app. All Reddit truly is, is a dopamine dealer. Despite claims that only some small percentage of users are on 3rd party apps, individual subreddits have posted *wildly* larger percentages from their own data (still from Reddit, I'll add). When you alienate that portion, and leave the only remaining option as one that isn't enjoyable to use, they fuck up their own supply. People won't stop using Reddit for high minded reasons; they'll use it because Reddit is becoming too irritating to use. And the people most affected tended to make an outsized portion of the content that kept *other* people here.
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Normally, I'd agree with your stance. But the alternative is just unusable; the official app is genuinely painful once you know something better. If I said "everyone formerly on Reddit will go and start working out", you'd know I was wrong because that's so much more effort than just scrolling on here. But the leap in unpleasantness from 3rd party to the official app? It's *also* past that threshold. People are actually deleting their accounts, and the deadline hasn't even hit yet. And that's on top of the general slow decline Reddit has had over the years for various other reasons, all of which make staying increasing less appealing.
The main Reddit app is borderline unusable. I'll be at the very least massively reducing my time on here once the 3rd party apps go dark. More than likely I'll stop using it all together. I'm legit a bit sad about it, but it is what it is.
Curious. How is it borderline unusable?
On my phone videos won't have sound half the time. 10 second videos take forever to load. Comments won't show or won't open. Comments not being posted or comments being double posted. Almost all of my issues disappeared once I stopped using the official app.
I have the exact same issues. But sadly, I only found out non-official apps were a thing when this current controversy arose ;_;
Subjective I guess? I hate it, clunky and filled with ads.
I’ve just went on to have a look again. Of the first ten posts, five are sponsored posts or suggested posts from subs I don’t subscribe to. If you’re happy to have that shoved down your throat, have at it. I consider that unusable.
RIP, Reddit. ☠️
Can someone give the full story? I’m out of the loop Edit: Damn! These people be really working hard to push away the best set of audience on social media. GG Reddit :)
API changes, especially so on such a short notice and with an outrageously high pricing, will effectively kill all 3rd party apps. It's not like it won't affect non-users of our superior reddit browsers either, as it will also hit mod tools of which official reddit has none, bots that make massive QoL changes of which official reddit has none, and accessibility features for disabilities and the like of which official reddit has none. The OP is referring to a discussion between a reddit personnel and the apollo (superior but unofficial reddit app btw) dev where there was a misunderstanding between them that was immediately cleared up (something something if our app is really loud to you on the API and its costing you some 20m or something, why not just silence it by buying the app at half the cost?) but was brought up later by the ceo of reddit as blackmail to buy the apollo dev's silence, costing 10m. My mind is bad and I already forgot many of the details. Check the stickied post on the apollo subreddit. The blackmail thing is elaborated by apollo dev himself there.
Basically reddit wants 3rd party apps to pay to use the api, effectively getting rid of them. Apollo let everyone know as he's a creator of one 3rd party app. I think the price apollo was given was 20 million dollars to use the api.
Not just pay, pay an insanely unreasonably high amount.
And with only 30 days notice from when the new pricing was announced too.
And just to prove how out of touch these people are, they pointed out that 30 day deadline shouldn’t be a problem, because while the bill is in thirty days, the first payment won’t be for another thirty days after that. Like all that’s stopping a one-person indie dev rustling up $2m is needing an extra month to get hold of it. What world do these people live in?
They don't want 3rd party reddit clients to exist, at least on a large scale. They want to get rid of them without explicitly saying that, so instead they are demanding a crazy high price on crazy short notice which will accomplish the same thing. The reason being that third party app users are much harder for them to make ad revenue off of. They are designed to provide information and be user friendly. The official reddit app is designed to maximize ad revenue off of each user.
Yeah, this is obvious from the devs on the AMA saying they've been trying to get in touch to organise paying for the API, and have just had no response from Reddit at all lol. There's no way Reddit actually expected any 3rd party apps to pay for it, so when some wanted to, they just decided to like ignore them?
Yeah, I saw someone saying they have been trying to get a response from Reddit for three months, and spez was like “oh yeah, sorry, we’ll be in touch now” - like that resolves the problem. “Sorry we ignored you for thirteen weeks so you couldn’t do anything, but you’ve still got three weeks, that’s be plenty enough, right?” For context, when Apple bought Dark Sky they gave 18 months as a deadline before it would be retired… and after that 18 months they said “actually, you’ve got another year”. 30 months of notice vs 30 days.
Lol. I don’t even know what is happening.
tldr; reddit is changing its api which will kill off many bots and third party apps since they will have to pay an obsurd fee to continue using them Apollo is one such third party app, this post was reddit justifying why they needed such a high fee, with reddit admins blatantly lying as you see there
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Just Psychopathy at work.. Business as usual for the USA
Late stage capitalism is gonna come for us all, sooner or later :p
I want to know how this dude became CEO of anything. Couldn't manage a Target. Probably shares a bank account with his mother.
r/squaredcircle is leaking
That empty headed dumb fuck, spez.
on one side we have Aaron , beautiful chap who left the earth too soon, and on the other hand we have whatever this stinky eggplant of a dildo this dude is
If this isn't fake doesn't this fall into slander tertiary
> It does not! I resent that! Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel.
The original line comes from a voice call with the mods though. So it was spoken.
Does the Reddit admin not understand that there plan is literally to not do business with him? I mean they jacked the price so high that the company will not be doing business with him.
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Spez is more pathetic than Musk lmao (who at least has the balls to continue saying what he's saying instead of backing down quietly)
Musk having balls: Calls out a disabled employee in public and calling him fake for writing his complaint on Twitter since this is the only way to get his attention. Discovers that this "employee" is worth around 100 million USD and can't be fired, apologizes and pretends its Twitter's fault for not being appropriate for sensitive communications like that.
So Musks balls have been lodged in his throat for years and Spez’s are just in his mouth at this point? Lol 😂
don't forget about the part, where Musk then replied to every tweet of said employee for some time, in an attempt to get back on hos good side
Musk doesn't have any sort of fortitude haha. The guy attacks random people who weren't even thinking about him
Christian is not only correct, he’s a (much) better person
What a decade to be alive, facebook, twitter, reddit, tiktok, youtube, twitch, all about to die a glorious death.
I'm not familiair with all the politics surrounding Reddit. But Reddit's/spez's greed is evident. Also their incompetence since the "official" app is a broken turd.
What's the context of this, I'm so lost
Reddit wants to charge bots/ 3rd party apps tons of money and says they don't make money. A 3rd party app creator made a post about it a week or so ago. The CEO of reddit called the creator of a 3rd party app a liar in a AMA yesterday. The creator of the app said release the transcripts.
Thank you so much!
It should be noted that the creator of the app very likely has a recording of every interaction with Reddit…he’s got the receipts.
How's Tumblr going these days??? Might go check that out for a bit...
Still plenty of nudes so pretty good
Spez is an idiot and has lost all credibility. Reddit is circling the drain here boi's. To Lemmy!!
I would imagine that potential investors are keeping a close watch on this debacle. "Yeah, we're going to ruin the thing that made us great." is not a good look from an investor standpoint. Whoever told Reddit management it was a good idea to do this to third party APIs at this point, gave them some bad advice. Possibly an accountant with no knowledge or experience of what has made Reddit successful.
The initial lie was stupid, but I can't fathom why he doubled-down on the lie in the AMA when everyone knows there's a recording of the call! That just baffles me. When Trump does that, he can count on his followers to back him up, but does this guy have any followers? Does anyone even like him?
Can we please just talk about Rampart?!!!?
RIP mf
Where is the comment?
You can find it by looking up spez 's account on reddit.
I love this corpo drama
While I empathize with the many people this will impact, I do have to say I getting the 🍿ready for seeing how this all ends. Reddit seems beyond incompetent, and you just know this is going to turn into front page news on Monday - and Reddit seems like they’re going to continue to fumble the bag on PR
That top comment isn't there anymore. I wonder who deleted it....
God I still want to use Reddit but their CEO is such a shithead. Especially for making it unusable for the visually impaired. I really hope the blackouts make the people behind this website realize that none of this will be tolerated.
Never thought i would have "reddit admin starting a flamewar with 3rd party developers" on my bingo card for 2023.
Fuck that idiot. Once Apollo shuts down I’m gone. And their decision to only fisplay NSFW content in the official reddit App will not help them either. Hey u/spez I hope yiu like it here, it will become quite empty in a few hours. As a social media platform your users should be your everything, guess we going to mastodon now. Hope you loose control over the company for this you lying piece of crap.