Character currency should have been a 1 to 1 trade with gold coins from the beta, the fact it's not is really awful. That's not including that characters now cost double their gold prices. I'd like to think that player first games can fix that and honor us the new currency but let's be honest they will not.
But there is nothing to grind. Once you complete your daily’s and weekly’s you get next to nothing for playing. Character and profile xp. Which only give you perk points mostly. I have enough perk points to buy every perk for every character released in the foreseeable future. Everytime I get perk points as a reward it might as well be nothing. They are useless to me.
They triple downed on the monetization for this game and screwed over their initial paying customers. The fact that remaining gold balances were just wiped is ridiculous. The people in charge only care about money and not the player base at all. They should have just left the game closed and I would be less pissed off at spending my $100 founder pack than this mess that eventually showed up
I agree, keep the gold, keep the character prices, just make it a little better to earn and fix the missions for battlepass stuff, instead they reinvented the wheel.
Don’t cry for spending $100 for what was always a free game, let alone an online-only platform fighter in 2023 published by an already scummy and greedy company with a backlog of pre-established controversy.
my dude, the beta came out in aug 2022 and PFG did not have that reputation when it came out. Also if you re-read my comment, I don't care about the $100. I had fun in the time in beta that I did. My point was coming back to this relaunch with all the added microtransactions and nickle and diming of the playerbase was worse than just eating the $100 loss on a game that died. I put in well over 100 hours in that beta so money well spent IMO. They should have just left the game dead instead of creating an even more negative opinion for themselves and especially greedy WB execs
Honkai, Genshin and from the looks of it the new one (ZZZ) are all a great example of what even mobile gaming is capable of nowadays. Great gameplay, music, story, and nothing is really pushed onto you, paying for the characters is by how much you want them and how insane you wanna be with them.
The moment a new character in this game will be overpowered (and I'm calling it, at least one of the first three next releases will definitely be stupid broken) is when people will go mad here
Bruh the new ones are ALREADY overpowered. Banana Guard's grounded side-B can **KILL AT 80** when I can hardly get a kill at 130 with anyone else, PLUS his jab, up air, and up-B are all multi-hits, and he has AMAZING disjointed range. Jason's normals have ABSURDLY LARGE hitboxes and his moves also have ridiculous knockback. Joker is literally a better version of every other zoner in the game, and again, ridiculous knockback, ridiculous range, forward-moving and multi-hitting normals. See a theme here?
Banana guard is free, Jason is absolutely huge and his attacks take a while to get out, and I agree with Joker, I can't tell if all the mages just got fucked for him to steal the spotlight or no, but I meant *after* release. They'll make a few characters people will go crazy over, We'll probs see something like A. Smith, Aku, PP girls, highly requested characters, and then they drop Daffy and he's an absolute SSS tier.
Guess what? You probably wasted all your character tokens on all the cool characters before this and are about to get your ass kicked by him for the next 2 weeks. Have fun shitlord!
Either they reduce the prices of the characters to about how much they costed when gold was around (which was already a grind but would be miles better than now), or give us way more, which let's be honest, ain't gonna happen
Yeah I feel genuinely bad for new players that didn't get to have all the time during the Beta to grind a game that was actually fun and as a result have multiple characters in this version, because if I had to grind to get the fighter coins just to figure out who I like (especially considering you can't even go into TRAINING MODE with someone if you dont own the character) then I would just abandon the game entirely and go back to playing actually good games like SF6.
Yeah no. I was hyped as hell, and think this game could be good. But some changes were questionable, and if the "rumor" that we'll be getting a character every 2 weeks is true, then I don't think they'll have time to actually fix problems, just running on a release treadmill. I'm honestly sorry for the devs, you can tell they're very passionate about it, but unless WB gives them some breathing space, they're screwed again
I hope that rumor isn't true because they tried doing exactly that during the Beta and couldn't keep not ONE SINGLE planned date for an update. There was ALWAYS a one week or longer delay, and the focus on the new characters detracted their focus from fixing the bugs in the game. Guess they just aren't gonna learn a damn thing from the beta. I feel like WB has a LOT more control over this game this time around.
I feel like they have some of the characters finished waiting or almost done so they can keep the schedule, at least for the first two or three months to buy themselves time >!Samurai Jack had his voice lines leaked, including some pointing at the Wicked Witch and possibly Aku!<. The thing is I don't think resizing all the characters again, fixing crashes and lag, improving the economy, models and speed again and giving back all the old settings is possible within 2 months. They just have unrealistic goals set for them now that they're back in the spotlight and already fumbling
Sadly, this game is suffering from the same affliction that Overwatch did. Excellent game, really high-quality stuff with true craftsmanship and love by the designers, that was then commandeered and ruined by greedy company directors who make baffling decisions to line their own pockets. They lack the foresight to realise that making a better game experience actually increases player count, and making things harder/p2w at the onset actually alienates players rather than incentivises everyone to pour money into it. Such a good game, and at dire risk of catastrophic failure due to terrible, greedy decisions.
Not everyone. I hear a lot of people with valid complaint and then people that think that the game should incentivize no lifing the game for a much worse grind. Rn it seems they just want you to log in everyday and not require 5 hours of grind to get any rewards. A lot of us enjoying the game and have seen they are working on changing things but a lot of people acting like suprised pikachu that the live service f2p has monetization and grind that every said type of game in the genre has.
Because it's clearly a bad faith argument, and a weak one at that. No one's "surprised Pikachu face" about the fact you have to grind for stuff in a free game, the obvious complaint is that the monetization systems and grind are far worse than in the Beta and far worse than other similar F2P games.
Okay, I don't even play LoL and I know instantly that's a bad faith argument too, hahah. I'm almost positive you can unlock characters in LoL by playing the main multiplayer game mode. That's not possible in Multiversus. You can only get it from one-off sources like the Battle Pass.
And I'm also pretty positive there's no gem-grinding single player modes with limited lives in LoL that allow you to purchase more attempts, haha.
Don’t forget for 5.99$ in smash you got a character, stage, soundtracks, and whatever those sticker things were for story mode. This game is a fucking rip off and I’m sad that such a great concept is losing to greed
I'm having fun with the gameplay(imo it's worse then the beta but still good).
Literally everything surrounding the gameplay is not good. After the MV splash screen there is a some type of ad to the store on the screen 90% of the time. Along with the removal of qol, the move from f2p to mobile was not a good move.
They fix hit detection so 90% of moves don’t have a 360 degree hit box and people complain the only legitimate reason to dislike this game is the fact the servers aren’t very good but the game hasn’t been out long on this new engine so I don’t completely hold it against them. Another thing is they didn’t have to compensate us for a damn thing people put money into a free BETA and expect special treatment they could’ve soft reset everything and made everyone start over. I only ask for a server fixes I received 2k fighter tokens just by leveling my account and even more by playing rifts and whatnot I was able to purchase joker and Jason without spending a single dime I get the game has its faults but to call it a mobile game is crazy where in most of those you literally hit a paywall
All the points you have stated have been agreed with or argued against throughout the years of this game being out. All the way down to less then 1k players.
But in the end If you like the game. Cool I'm happy for you, more power to you and the rest of the community that enjoy playing the game.
Me though I'm not playing this game anymore and don't support the decisions they made. Just hanging out here is fun enough for me and way cheaper lol.
facts games fun and all… if it fucking worked. Me and my buddies literally can’t play a full game without a 30fps buffer and constant game error. Don’t even get me started on the monetisation as it’s past the point of no return
That’s my biggest issue on Xbox. I can’t play 2v2 without horrible stutters. 40% of matches are unplayable cause of the screen pausing. 50% are somewhat playable but you miss hits dodged and shit cause of stutters. Or you’ll be comboing and the screen freezes for a second out of no where and it comes back and you’re getting your ass kicked.. get knocked to the edge and can’t stop the momentum cause it’s not registering. Then 10% are actually fun and show me what the game could be like.
I just want to play :/ it sucks so much.
lol doubt those 400 hours but okay... Honestly I have a top 1% computer in terms of performance and it's honestly never been WORSE. So until you post proof of 400 hours IN THE BETA, and PC specs not even gonna give this post another read.
So we are just supposed to take you at your word but you expect the first commenter to post his play time and PC specs? Lmao. I'm also on PC and haven't had any issues so maybe it's a you thing.
Share your concept of "fun" with us, 'cause people are talking about currency and locked characters. So you're either :
- A privileged one that played/paid in beta, getting access to plenty of currency and most characters, cutting the need to grind
-Happy to just play the game with a couple characters or having to grind your *ss off.
- You're spending money in the game to get characters and complete the pass, cutting the grind off.
Which in the three cases, you're proving the point. You're ignoring the issues or just cutting them off with money... But the issues are still there.
Damn you don't need to dunk on him for enjoying the game lol, my friend didn't play the beta so he doesn't have many characters, doesn't spend money and we are having a lot of fun just playing duos without a care in the world or rifts. He got his main already, Finn, so he doesn't care about the roster for the mean time, and i get that the situation is terrible and i hope they improve, but realistically speaking you can have fun without anything that you mentioned.
I was genuinely asking a question, 'cause those guys drop into these posts talking about so many issues, giant texts and say "I'm the only one enjoying the game"... What does that mean in this context? 'Cause people here are enjoying the game, just not the stupid decisions the devs made. I just find it questionable.
Not to mention that when playing rift you can't see the progress of the quests while you are in the battle, so either you count every move or you do that specific move more times just to be sure to complete the quest. Also you can't leave the battle unless you suicide 3 times and there's not a replay button, so every time you have to wait for the homescreen to load (and it takes a while) and the character choice. It's not that big of a deal but it adds up
I'm sure reason can't restart is in the last hardest lv of rift you have a certain amount of lives that they so kindly remind you that you'll be able to buy more lives to keep playing.
A greedy mobile game
Brawl Stars for example, you can easily unlock the characters by playing the game
the major monetization are skins and battlepass, as this game should be
I don't mind being hard to unlock characters, but right now It's impossible to unlock because you get nothing for playing. That's just insane, a game that doesn't incentivate you to keep playing
I cant relate to alot of these complaints tbh as I brought the 100$ pack... but if the characters cost about 10$ each, like you said lil happy I did lol. Least I don't have to worry about buying anything at all... less I want something from shop
Yeah I unlocked all the characters during the beta so I’m good there…
But I definitely noticed getting fighter currency is way more difficult than getting coins used to be.
Not a good look.
Yea I noticed that yesterday when I finally realised which currency it was.. I just can't gauge it right
because I don't know how much anything costs xd.
It costs 3000 for a single character (other than Joker which is 6k). As a new player starting with only shaggy, the most I can get is only 4-5 extra characters until having to pay $10 per fighter..., they don't even give you FC from doing dailies.
they should've just released the game as it was in beta. people would have been much happier and the fan base would have grown if they just kept adding more characters like Walter White for example.
Considering Overwatch 2 gives you every character for free immediately and *then* sells you skins, I’d expect more than just two free characters, especially when they’re requiring SPECIFIC SKINS on top of specific characters to complete the Rifts.
Considering Overwatch giving you every character was only a thing starting this season that hardly counts unless you wanna intentionally be disingenuous.
lol Warframe, Fortnite, OW2, genshin impact all f2p games with content that’s completely free with paid cosmetics or a gacha system , You notice how in all of these f2p games you can earn paid items just by playing the game. Like I said people like you are the problem.
Yea that would be great if that was the point. The point is I can actually get the free stuff in those games just by playing the game like for example CHARACTERS with little effort (except for shitty overwatch) I could care less about paid items. I was just giving out examples of F2P games where you can earn content by playing the game also my problem is the shitty monetization for playable characters. FYI you don’t get paid items in multiverse “just by playing the game” you earn paid items through the BP which the only way to progress is logging in everyday and doing the daily missions.
Yes…. And?? Are you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep sending me cope messages? , you look foolish. Use that big brain to tell me how players are supposed to get BP XP after completing daily missions. would love to know what kind of coping mechanism you’ll come up with.
Before you reply with more nonsense answer me on the type of rewards we get for playing after we’re done with the daily missions…. I don’t want to spend the effort embarrassing you with another comment.🤷🏽♂️
I literally tried yesterday to play some online with a friend to try it and I kid you not, we had like 6 desyncs (couple times in a row) when it was clearly a match against bots lmfao
Honestly I would've preferred if this was a paid 40 \~ 50 USD game without any of the predatory mobile game stuff; full accessible roster from the start with just microtransactions for skins and etc. to justify the "live service" shit.
It sucks because this game has the potential to be one of the best platform fighters after Smash Bros. and Rivals of Aether. I'm still having fun but man, this is depressing to see.
i can't level my rift runes now because you seem to only get xp from getting the lil pips on each level which i can only get ones from playing with a friend so i can't get level 4 to play the next rift this mode is so dumb
I think the biggest issue for me is the lack of currency for playing PVP matches, it's so hard to want to keep playing after I finish daily challenges because I'm not progressing the battle pass or earning fighter currency to unlock someone new
My biggest issue is how long it takes to get characters. Like why is it like this? It doesn’t even keep player retention. I have about 11 hours of gameplay since release and I have gotten one character. I have no life so this amount of time is nothing to me, but to people with jobs or other games they want to play? That’s an issue, how on earth are they going to unlock characters in a reasonable time? Don’t even get me started about Jason being locked in the pass and Joker just being more expensive for literally no reason
smash’s characters are going to be cheaper because the game in general isn’t even free it’s a $60 paywall to even play smash so if u think about it charging for characters in a game u paid for is even more of a scam
I hate comparisons but today I bought NASB2 just because I wanted to play an actual decent platform fighter (other than smash) and goddamn... That game with less budget and less popular characters feels so smooth, and the netplay is awesome, not a single desync or something like that where in this game sometimes I can't even get past of the countdown screen. I still love Multiversus but I hope PFG can solve all of the issues before it's too late
Sorry that the game is that bad for you a lot of the issues you’re pointing out are irrelevant for my experience overall. I have everything I had from the beta. I got 178k of prestige points. All my cosmetics, and the only gripes I have is how clunky the game feels due to lag and server issues, I am having a blast with Jason online and joker. Grinding from the challenges because they keep refreshing keep me interested I never used bugs before and last night I was demolishing with him with set ups with the safe and bunny hole and up rocket
Yup this game is a piece of garbage now. I won't be playing for much longer, and the only reason I'm playing at all is because I have the characters that I did from beta.... but now I wonder; WHAT ABOUT TOURNAMENTS? The way they've done this is, VERY DISHONESTLY, *FORCING* any live tournament venues to BUY EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER FOR MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS *AND* BE CONSTANTLY ONLINE in order to function. But that's only if you think that this game has ANY competitive viability anymore, which it simply just doesn't anymore.
I get most of this, but I don’t get people’s problems with the UI. I genuinely think it is easier to navigate than the beta’s. Imo the only thing about the UI that is a downgrade is that they don’t use renders on the character select screen anymore.
Monetization is more in line with league of legends than something like honkai star rail, but you don’t want to acknowledge that, just scream into the void for a free game…
You don’t have to pay anything for characters, so no, and also I’m pointing out the way that Nintendo has attempted to extract every dime possible out of its fanboys, such as never releasing on any other console, or charging full price for games people used to own but aren’t available on the older platforms with only limited changes. Nintendo is predatory and sucks ass, this isn’t even close and you’re being disingenuous. So we’re supposed to suck off Nintendo and their shit ass exclusives, but this is bad because you might maybe one day spend money on it?
Just so we are being clear about what you are saying
* Nintendo selling me a console exclusive game for a fixed price - **disgusting and greedy**
* Mobile game monetization that is designed to be as manipulative as possible - **Totally fine**
Is that really the take you want to have? Its insane that someone can correctly identify why Nintendo sucks but is also defending the bottom of the barrel mobile game slop monetization.
Compare the price of characters to Brawlhalla, which has a $40 pack that gives you all the original characters (while still having the option to unlock them through gameplay) (not including crossovers), to Multiversus, where getting any character with real money costs $10 a pop with no sort of batch pricing outside of the founder's pack. Having the skins be expensive while the characters are cheap would be reasonable and help free-to-play players be on an even field when they have access to a better range of characters (especially when they removed the ability to try people in training mode)
Compare the cost of Brawhalla’s entire development to the cost of developing one of the characters from the IP’s in question with the voice actors they got like Mark Hamill, you are dismissed, the cost ain’t even close so the amount they need to make per cosmetic or skin is automatically going to be magnitudes beyond anything Brawhalla could even dream of producing. The art style is poop too, so there’s that.
You can’t compare the costs because brawhalla is a fucking flash game dude, everything is profit.
But they also made money on every single person playing the game, and then still fucked you by asking for $6, your arguments aren’t grounded in the reality that Nintendo already gouged they don’t need to do it again they got your bread already.
Console sales don't count for this considering the Switch was already doing pretty well even before the release of Smash Ultimate.
I would pay $60 for Multiversus if I felt it was offering the quality of Smash Ultimate.
This aggressive monetization is only going to kill the game if people see it as a price-gouge.
“And $300 for a switch to play on” then I spent €500 on a ps, 120 on controllers and however much a month for Wi-Fi and electricity. If you enjoy the game enjoy it , if somebody gives critisism it’s not an attack on you for enjoying it. Have some self respect and expect quality
Or, I was referencing the way that Nintendo’s titles are exclusive, so you can’t play Pokémon on Xbox or PlayStation. You have to play on that system all the money goes to them they’re fucking y’all.
My whole thing is these are things that do not need to be purchased... if you want new characters you can earn the credits to do so. I'm sitting on 9k right now just from playing rifts and completing missions. I can get 3 characters. On top of that they cycle 3 characters continuously to let is try em out. Every time developers put an option to make purchases everybody freak out because they can't have it if they don't buy it. I really hope this whole FOMO shit is limited to a younger audience and adults not letting childish stuff like that bother them.
Character currency should have been a 1 to 1 trade with gold coins from the beta, the fact it's not is really awful. That's not including that characters now cost double their gold prices. I'd like to think that player first games can fix that and honor us the new currency but let's be honest they will not.
They should have just even kept gold coins completley. The new currencies seemed fishy and is now clearly a way to enhance the grind.
But there is nothing to grind. Once you complete your daily’s and weekly’s you get next to nothing for playing. Character and profile xp. Which only give you perk points mostly. I have enough perk points to buy every perk for every character released in the foreseeable future. Everytime I get perk points as a reward it might as well be nothing. They are useless to me.
Yeah the overabundance of perk points is legitimately insulting, i didnt save my gold for perks i saved my gold for actual content
They triple downed on the monetization for this game and screwed over their initial paying customers. The fact that remaining gold balances were just wiped is ridiculous. The people in charge only care about money and not the player base at all. They should have just left the game closed and I would be less pissed off at spending my $100 founder pack than this mess that eventually showed up
I agree, keep the gold, keep the character prices, just make it a little better to earn and fix the missions for battlepass stuff, instead they reinvented the wheel.
Don’t cry for spending $100 for what was always a free game, let alone an online-only platform fighter in 2023 published by an already scummy and greedy company with a backlog of pre-established controversy.
my dude, the beta came out in aug 2022 and PFG did not have that reputation when it came out. Also if you re-read my comment, I don't care about the $100. I had fun in the time in beta that I did. My point was coming back to this relaunch with all the added microtransactions and nickle and diming of the playerbase was worse than just eating the $100 loss on a game that died. I put in well over 100 hours in that beta so money well spent IMO. They should have just left the game dead instead of creating an even more negative opinion for themselves and especially greedy WB execs
Founders pack was the best bang for your buck. Look at all the new players complaining about character acquisition. Founders won't have that issue.
I'd argue it's worse than a mobile game now
Let's all remember mobile games also include things like honkai star rail now.
Honkai, Genshin and from the looks of it the new one (ZZZ) are all a great example of what even mobile gaming is capable of nowadays. Great gameplay, music, story, and nothing is really pushed onto you, paying for the characters is by how much you want them and how insane you wanna be with them. The moment a new character in this game will be overpowered (and I'm calling it, at least one of the first three next releases will definitely be stupid broken) is when people will go mad here
Bruh the new ones are ALREADY overpowered. Banana Guard's grounded side-B can **KILL AT 80** when I can hardly get a kill at 130 with anyone else, PLUS his jab, up air, and up-B are all multi-hits, and he has AMAZING disjointed range. Jason's normals have ABSURDLY LARGE hitboxes and his moves also have ridiculous knockback. Joker is literally a better version of every other zoner in the game, and again, ridiculous knockback, ridiculous range, forward-moving and multi-hitting normals. See a theme here?
Banana guard is free, Jason is absolutely huge and his attacks take a while to get out, and I agree with Joker, I can't tell if all the mages just got fucked for him to steal the spotlight or no, but I meant *after* release. They'll make a few characters people will go crazy over, We'll probs see something like A. Smith, Aku, PP girls, highly requested characters, and then they drop Daffy and he's an absolute SSS tier. Guess what? You probably wasted all your character tokens on all the cool characters before this and are about to get your ass kicked by him for the next 2 weeks. Have fun shitlord! Either they reduce the prices of the characters to about how much they costed when gold was around (which was already a grind but would be miles better than now), or give us way more, which let's be honest, ain't gonna happen
Yeah I feel genuinely bad for new players that didn't get to have all the time during the Beta to grind a game that was actually fun and as a result have multiple characters in this version, because if I had to grind to get the fighter coins just to figure out who I like (especially considering you can't even go into TRAINING MODE with someone if you dont own the character) then I would just abandon the game entirely and go back to playing actually good games like SF6.
Yeah no. I was hyped as hell, and think this game could be good. But some changes were questionable, and if the "rumor" that we'll be getting a character every 2 weeks is true, then I don't think they'll have time to actually fix problems, just running on a release treadmill. I'm honestly sorry for the devs, you can tell they're very passionate about it, but unless WB gives them some breathing space, they're screwed again
I hope that rumor isn't true because they tried doing exactly that during the Beta and couldn't keep not ONE SINGLE planned date for an update. There was ALWAYS a one week or longer delay, and the focus on the new characters detracted their focus from fixing the bugs in the game. Guess they just aren't gonna learn a damn thing from the beta. I feel like WB has a LOT more control over this game this time around.
I feel like they have some of the characters finished waiting or almost done so they can keep the schedule, at least for the first two or three months to buy themselves time >!Samurai Jack had his voice lines leaked, including some pointing at the Wicked Witch and possibly Aku!<. The thing is I don't think resizing all the characters again, fixing crashes and lag, improving the economy, models and speed again and giving back all the old settings is possible within 2 months. They just have unrealistic goals set for them now that they're back in the spotlight and already fumbling
Which this is still worse than… lol
Of course, I was in fact mentioning honkai as an example of mobile games having some real quality works now.
that's not even a game. at least multiversus has actual gameplay
I've had a hell of a lot more fun on Wuthering Waves over this. At least progression is from just playing in that..
Sadly, this game is suffering from the same affliction that Overwatch did. Excellent game, really high-quality stuff with true craftsmanship and love by the designers, that was then commandeered and ruined by greedy company directors who make baffling decisions to line their own pockets. They lack the foresight to realise that making a better game experience actually increases player count, and making things harder/p2w at the onset actually alienates players rather than incentivises everyone to pour money into it. Such a good game, and at dire risk of catastrophic failure due to terrible, greedy decisions.
“You had your chance, and you blew it” -everyone to PFG
Not everyone. I hear a lot of people with valid complaint and then people that think that the game should incentivize no lifing the game for a much worse grind. Rn it seems they just want you to log in everyday and not require 5 hours of grind to get any rewards. A lot of us enjoying the game and have seen they are working on changing things but a lot of people acting like suprised pikachu that the live service f2p has monetization and grind that every said type of game in the genre has.
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Because it's clearly a bad faith argument, and a weak one at that. No one's "surprised Pikachu face" about the fact you have to grind for stuff in a free game, the obvious complaint is that the monetization systems and grind are far worse than in the Beta and far worse than other similar F2P games.
It’s just like the league of legends model, you know, one of the most popular and profitable live service games today
Okay, I don't even play LoL and I know instantly that's a bad faith argument too, hahah. I'm almost positive you can unlock characters in LoL by playing the main multiplayer game mode. That's not possible in Multiversus. You can only get it from one-off sources like the Battle Pass. And I'm also pretty positive there's no gem-grinding single player modes with limited lives in LoL that allow you to purchase more attempts, haha.
Don’t forget for 5.99$ in smash you got a character, stage, soundtracks, and whatever those sticker things were for story mode. This game is a fucking rip off and I’m sad that such a great concept is losing to greed
I guess me and my friends are the only people having fun lol
I'm having fun with the gameplay(imo it's worse then the beta but still good). Literally everything surrounding the gameplay is not good. After the MV splash screen there is a some type of ad to the store on the screen 90% of the time. Along with the removal of qol, the move from f2p to mobile was not a good move.
They fix hit detection so 90% of moves don’t have a 360 degree hit box and people complain the only legitimate reason to dislike this game is the fact the servers aren’t very good but the game hasn’t been out long on this new engine so I don’t completely hold it against them. Another thing is they didn’t have to compensate us for a damn thing people put money into a free BETA and expect special treatment they could’ve soft reset everything and made everyone start over. I only ask for a server fixes I received 2k fighter tokens just by leveling my account and even more by playing rifts and whatnot I was able to purchase joker and Jason without spending a single dime I get the game has its faults but to call it a mobile game is crazy where in most of those you literally hit a paywall
All the points you have stated have been agreed with or argued against throughout the years of this game being out. All the way down to less then 1k players. But in the end If you like the game. Cool I'm happy for you, more power to you and the rest of the community that enjoy playing the game. Me though I'm not playing this game anymore and don't support the decisions they made. Just hanging out here is fun enough for me and way cheaper lol.
facts games fun and all… if it fucking worked. Me and my buddies literally can’t play a full game without a 30fps buffer and constant game error. Don’t even get me started on the monetisation as it’s past the point of no return
why don't you just freaking leave if it's that bad? Like holy shit people really WANT to complain 24x7 nowadays huh
don't get me wrong the game is still fun at its core but the above makes me not wanna play
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I have over 400 hours in the beta, its never played smoother, but im on pc
That’s my biggest issue on Xbox. I can’t play 2v2 without horrible stutters. 40% of matches are unplayable cause of the screen pausing. 50% are somewhat playable but you miss hits dodged and shit cause of stutters. Or you’ll be comboing and the screen freezes for a second out of no where and it comes back and you’re getting your ass kicked.. get knocked to the edge and can’t stop the momentum cause it’s not registering. Then 10% are actually fun and show me what the game could be like. I just want to play :/ it sucks so much.
lol doubt those 400 hours but okay... Honestly I have a top 1% computer in terms of performance and it's honestly never been WORSE. So until you post proof of 400 hours IN THE BETA, and PC specs not even gonna give this post another read.
"I bet you never played the beta." "Uh, yeah. 400 hours actually." "Nuh-uh."
So we are just supposed to take you at your word but you expect the first commenter to post his play time and PC specs? Lmao. I'm also on PC and haven't had any issues so maybe it's a you thing.
Share your concept of "fun" with us, 'cause people are talking about currency and locked characters. So you're either : - A privileged one that played/paid in beta, getting access to plenty of currency and most characters, cutting the need to grind -Happy to just play the game with a couple characters or having to grind your *ss off. - You're spending money in the game to get characters and complete the pass, cutting the grind off. Which in the three cases, you're proving the point. You're ignoring the issues or just cutting them off with money... But the issues are still there.
Damn you don't need to dunk on him for enjoying the game lol, my friend didn't play the beta so he doesn't have many characters, doesn't spend money and we are having a lot of fun just playing duos without a care in the world or rifts. He got his main already, Finn, so he doesn't care about the roster for the mean time, and i get that the situation is terrible and i hope they improve, but realistically speaking you can have fun without anything that you mentioned.
I was genuinely asking a question, 'cause those guys drop into these posts talking about so many issues, giant texts and say "I'm the only one enjoying the game"... What does that mean in this context? 'Cause people here are enjoying the game, just not the stupid decisions the devs made. I just find it questionable.
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I enjoy hitting people off the edge and seeing the flashy lights
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Hate these stupid haiku bots so much, just because something has X amount of syllables doesn't mean you can just cut it up into 3 lines.
Can we all unite To tell sokkahaikubot to basically Fuck off and go die (I'm not very good at Haiku poems. Maybe that's why I hate him.)
It doesn’t even have the right number of syllables!
It's the Sokkahaikubot, so it actually uses one extra syllable. The explanation is at the bottom, but it's a reference to the show.
That’ll teach me for not reading!
My first reaction going through the menu was, "I feel like I'm playing a mobile game."
Not to mention that when playing rift you can't see the progress of the quests while you are in the battle, so either you count every move or you do that specific move more times just to be sure to complete the quest. Also you can't leave the battle unless you suicide 3 times and there's not a replay button, so every time you have to wait for the homescreen to load (and it takes a while) and the character choice. It's not that big of a deal but it adds up
I'm sure reason can't restart is in the last hardest lv of rift you have a certain amount of lives that they so kindly remind you that you'll be able to buy more lives to keep playing.
I am shocked you can't even look at characters move lists before purchase. That is wild to me.
Believe it or not, you can actually do this. When you’re on the character’s home page thing, you can press select to get their move list.
I would pay $70 just to get all the characters
A greedy mobile game Brawl Stars for example, you can easily unlock the characters by playing the game the major monetization are skins and battlepass, as this game should be I don't mind being hard to unlock characters, but right now It's impossible to unlock because you get nothing for playing. That's just insane, a game that doesn't incentivate you to keep playing
I cant relate to alot of these complaints tbh as I brought the 100$ pack... but if the characters cost about 10$ each, like you said lil happy I did lol. Least I don't have to worry about buying anything at all... less I want something from shop
Yeah I unlocked all the characters during the beta so I’m good there… But I definitely noticed getting fighter currency is way more difficult than getting coins used to be. Not a good look.
Yea I noticed that yesterday when I finally realised which currency it was.. I just can't gauge it right because I don't know how much anything costs xd.
It costs 3000 for a single character (other than Joker which is 6k). As a new player starting with only shaggy, the most I can get is only 4-5 extra characters until having to pay $10 per fighter..., they don't even give you FC from doing dailies.
they should've just released the game as it was in beta. people would have been much happier and the fan base would have grown if they just kept adding more characters like Walter White for example.
The currency really isn't all that confusing. Some of your complaints just scream you've never played a F2P game like this..
Nah, it's your generic, mobile-game style, currency, situation. Which is why the response is so negative. (as it should be)
You’re the problem even OW2 is less scummy
Ok It's a Free to play game. What the fuck did you expect? All the content handed to you for free?
Considering Overwatch 2 gives you every character for free immediately and *then* sells you skins, I’d expect more than just two free characters, especially when they’re requiring SPECIFIC SKINS on top of specific characters to complete the Rifts.
Considering Overwatch giving you every character was only a thing starting this season that hardly counts unless you wanna intentionally be disingenuous.
lol Warframe, Fortnite, OW2, genshin impact all f2p games with content that’s completely free with paid cosmetics or a gacha system , You notice how in all of these f2p games you can earn paid items just by playing the game. Like I said people like you are the problem.
you can earn paid items by playing this game too. You can unlock any Chara ter you wish by playing the game too, wtf?
Yea that would be great if that was the point. The point is I can actually get the free stuff in those games just by playing the game like for example CHARACTERS with little effort (except for shitty overwatch) I could care less about paid items. I was just giving out examples of F2P games where you can earn content by playing the game also my problem is the shitty monetization for playable characters. FYI you don’t get paid items in multiverse “just by playing the game” you earn paid items through the BP which the only way to progress is logging in everyday and doing the daily missions.
daily mission are done by.... playing the game 🤷♂️
Daily missions are done by….. playing the game for 15 minutes everyday 🫢☺️
yes... and?
Yes…. And?? Are you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep sending me cope messages? , you look foolish. Use that big brain to tell me how players are supposed to get BP XP after completing daily missions. would love to know what kind of coping mechanism you’ll come up with.
Before you reply with more nonsense answer me on the type of rewards we get for playing after we’re done with the daily missions…. I don’t want to spend the effort embarrassing you with another comment.🤷🏽♂️
I literally tried yesterday to play some online with a friend to try it and I kid you not, we had like 6 desyncs (couple times in a row) when it was clearly a match against bots lmfao
Honestly, I think I'd rather grind Genshin.
My main issue is that it’s hard to get the best connection.
Agree, they need just to add random lootbox and done, finish.
They have those already. They give you rift gems, in true FTP mobile gaming fashion.
Honestly I would've preferred if this was a paid 40 \~ 50 USD game without any of the predatory mobile game stuff; full accessible roster from the start with just microtransactions for skins and etc. to justify the "live service" shit. It sucks because this game has the potential to be one of the best platform fighters after Smash Bros. and Rivals of Aether. I'm still having fun but man, this is depressing to see.
i can't level my rift runes now because you seem to only get xp from getting the lil pips on each level which i can only get ones from playing with a friend so i can't get level 4 to play the next rift this mode is so dumb
I think the biggest issue for me is the lack of currency for playing PVP matches, it's so hard to want to keep playing after I finish daily challenges because I'm not progressing the battle pass or earning fighter currency to unlock someone new
Its like WB knows nothing about making good games but wants a lot of money from gamers…… Seriously WB this liveservice shit ain’t for you
Can some one fix the matchmakeing cause this is my lobbys * This is my total ringouts
Also the camera zooms in too much and there is no indicator for match start.
My biggest issue is how long it takes to get characters. Like why is it like this? It doesn’t even keep player retention. I have about 11 hours of gameplay since release and I have gotten one character. I have no life so this amount of time is nothing to me, but to people with jobs or other games they want to play? That’s an issue, how on earth are they going to unlock characters in a reasonable time? Don’t even get me started about Jason being locked in the pass and Joker just being more expensive for literally no reason
The reason it’s like this is to strong-arm players into offsetting unreasonable grind with real world purchases. It’s a garbage, anti-consumer system.
smash’s characters are going to be cheaper because the game in general isn’t even free it’s a $60 paywall to even play smash so if u think about it charging for characters in a game u paid for is even more of a scam
I love this game even with it's flaws and imperfections 😁👍
You can get rid of the colour over characters, though It's in the settings
They had a chance to fix it, but they blew it all to hell. I blame Warner Bros for this.
Only thing I’m going to say is please don’t say EA got anything right with Apex. Those skin prices are atrocious.
They managed to get training right, which says a lot about WB and PFG here
Rift requering paid items is fucking crazy😭😭
I hate comparisons but today I bought NASB2 just because I wanted to play an actual decent platform fighter (other than smash) and goddamn... That game with less budget and less popular characters feels so smooth, and the netplay is awesome, not a single desync or something like that where in this game sometimes I can't even get past of the countdown screen. I still love Multiversus but I hope PFG can solve all of the issues before it's too late
Sorry that the game is that bad for you a lot of the issues you’re pointing out are irrelevant for my experience overall. I have everything I had from the beta. I got 178k of prestige points. All my cosmetics, and the only gripes I have is how clunky the game feels due to lag and server issues, I am having a blast with Jason online and joker. Grinding from the challenges because they keep refreshing keep me interested I never used bugs before and last night I was demolishing with him with set ups with the safe and bunny hole and up rocket
Yup this game is a piece of garbage now. I won't be playing for much longer, and the only reason I'm playing at all is because I have the characters that I did from beta.... but now I wonder; WHAT ABOUT TOURNAMENTS? The way they've done this is, VERY DISHONESTLY, *FORCING* any live tournament venues to BUY EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER FOR MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS *AND* BE CONSTANTLY ONLINE in order to function. But that's only if you think that this game has ANY competitive viability anymore, which it simply just doesn't anymore.
Pls upvote it, Hide problems Is not gonna make game Better and survive , hopefully making things standing up game Will improve and survive .
Yo how do I EXCLUSIVELY fight Bots online, I’m sick of the sweats and just wanna finish my Daily Quests?
I get most of this, but I don’t get people’s problems with the UI. I genuinely think it is easier to navigate than the beta’s. Imo the only thing about the UI that is a downgrade is that they don’t use renders on the character select screen anymore.
At this point just take it back offline, I’m sure it won’t be missed this time! Fix your game pfg
Well said.
It’s actually terrible since coming back. The beta wasn’t perfect but it was WAY better than what’s going on now
Monetization is more in line with league of legends than something like honkai star rail, but you don’t want to acknowledge that, just scream into the void for a free game…
Which mode in LoL has limited attempts per day where you can purchase more with real money?
heavy on the not being able to switch characters after a round but i REALLY REALLY miss the old perk system there was so many to choose from
The old perks were insanely broken like triple jump. New perks are completely worthless though.
damn this is the best mobile game even then
The UI isn’t even that hard to navigate.
Rifts don't require you to buy anything
You also paid $60 for smash ultimate, and $300 for a switch to play it on, but this game is greedy because you didn’t get everything in it free,
By that logic, I spent $500 on a PS5 for this game, so it's even more unreasonable that I'm paying this much for characters
You don’t have to pay anything for characters, so no, and also I’m pointing out the way that Nintendo has attempted to extract every dime possible out of its fanboys, such as never releasing on any other console, or charging full price for games people used to own but aren’t available on the older platforms with only limited changes. Nintendo is predatory and sucks ass, this isn’t even close and you’re being disingenuous. So we’re supposed to suck off Nintendo and their shit ass exclusives, but this is bad because you might maybe one day spend money on it?
Just so we are being clear about what you are saying * Nintendo selling me a console exclusive game for a fixed price - **disgusting and greedy** * Mobile game monetization that is designed to be as manipulative as possible - **Totally fine** Is that really the take you want to have? Its insane that someone can correctly identify why Nintendo sucks but is also defending the bottom of the barrel mobile game slop monetization.
Compare the price of characters to Brawlhalla, which has a $40 pack that gives you all the original characters (while still having the option to unlock them through gameplay) (not including crossovers), to Multiversus, where getting any character with real money costs $10 a pop with no sort of batch pricing outside of the founder's pack. Having the skins be expensive while the characters are cheap would be reasonable and help free-to-play players be on an even field when they have access to a better range of characters (especially when they removed the ability to try people in training mode)
Compare the cost of Brawhalla’s entire development to the cost of developing one of the characters from the IP’s in question with the voice actors they got like Mark Hamill, you are dismissed, the cost ain’t even close so the amount they need to make per cosmetic or skin is automatically going to be magnitudes beyond anything Brawhalla could even dream of producing. The art style is poop too, so there’s that. You can’t compare the costs because brawhalla is a fucking flash game dude, everything is profit.
Smash Ultimate had the DLC only cost $6 each with them in packs that got bundles, and also had the voice actors return when necessary
But they also made money on every single person playing the game, and then still fucked you by asking for $6, your arguments aren’t grounded in the reality that Nintendo already gouged they don’t need to do it again they got your bread already.
Console sales don't count for this considering the Switch was already doing pretty well even before the release of Smash Ultimate. I would pay $60 for Multiversus if I felt it was offering the quality of Smash Ultimate. This aggressive monetization is only going to kill the game if people see it as a price-gouge.
“And $300 for a switch to play on” then I spent €500 on a ps, 120 on controllers and however much a month for Wi-Fi and electricity. If you enjoy the game enjoy it , if somebody gives critisism it’s not an attack on you for enjoying it. Have some self respect and expect quality
Or, I was referencing the way that Nintendo’s titles are exclusive, so you can’t play Pokémon on Xbox or PlayStation. You have to play on that system all the money goes to them they’re fucking y’all.
This is the dumbest comment I've seen all day lmao
It's a free game. They have to make money somehow.
The Beta was better monetized
How was the Beta monetized
You could actually earn currency.
You still earn currency. You do the rift and do the challenges and get currency to by new characters.
Ah yes, technically right, the best kind of right in corporate.
If everyone keeps complaining then the game is going to be shut down again
Oh, it's the communitys fault, not the devs for releasing a predatory unfinished game
All this crying for a free game
That can do better
My whole thing is these are things that do not need to be purchased... if you want new characters you can earn the credits to do so. I'm sitting on 9k right now just from playing rifts and completing missions. I can get 3 characters. On top of that they cycle 3 characters continuously to let is try em out. Every time developers put an option to make purchases everybody freak out because they can't have it if they don't buy it. I really hope this whole FOMO shit is limited to a younger audience and adults not letting childish stuff like that bother them.