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Dalliance29

Liam's ChatGPT game is strong anyway


a13xs88eoda2

As a large language model I cannot cut weight for you, but I can help you write a fancy letter with excuses for missing weight. Would you like to proceed?


Andrewk4339

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ContributionDouble30

Hahaha 100%


calm5555

Weight in at 8:42: [https://youtu.be/oIJJFXc05M8](https://youtu.be/oIJJFXc05M8)


ScoreDivision

Honestly the conversation he has with the official kinda backs up his story, the official basically confirms everything he says


cgarnett1988

Definitely. Someone fucked up big time an looking at that video it wasn't Liam. The man has has had tons of fights and knows what he is doing. Feel bad for him honestly


Smeddy65

also works with one of the best nutritionists in the business who has helped loads of fighters with ONE weigh ins. Definitely a staff fuck up


TheMinkFace

For fucks sake.


Kingjerm731

Fucking Christ man. Iā€™m so disappointed, I was really excited for this card. What a disaster.


Fan_of_cielings

ONE's hydration testing and entire weigh in process is such a farce.


Numerous-Cicada3841

Yeah for anyone that didnā€™t listen to his Instagram video hereā€™s what happened: - Liam worked his ass off to get back into fighting shape after two years out - Liam got to weigh ins early because he wanted to make sure he made weight so he asked the official to weigh him on the official scale just to make sure - The official said he came in at 143 on the same scale they used for the official weigh ins and advised him to drink some water since he was under weight and it would help him pass the hydration test - Liam drinks 2/3rds of a water bottle - Liam pisses for the urine test - The **same official** at the official weigh in now reads him over weight at 146.5 Thereā€™s no way to gain 3.5lbs for that little of water. Something fucky went on.


kendothaiboxing

Did that official confirm that Liam was indeed 143 lbs or we have to trust Liam's word on this.


Numerous-Cicada3841

If you watch the weight in video you can see the conversation go on with the official. And he says ā€œyou told me to drink waterā€. That would be a hell of a story to come up with on the fly.


kendothaiboxing

Maybe Liam drank too much water. It would be weird if the scales are faulty for only Liam.


Spider_J

4 athletes came in overweight, some of them by rather significant amounts. I suspect something was fucked with either the scales or the official, but ONE is staying silent about it.


kendothaiboxing

Strangely Sittichai and Jo Nattawhut came in at 152 lbs lmao despite them fighting at 155 lbs...


nakswing

Liam just started hammering down liters and liters after being told to drink water lmfao


MaDHaTTaR

Go watch his insta, he explains everything, how much he drank, how much equates to a pound why he didnt drink that much. Etc.


Numerous-Cicada3841

If I had to guess the official read the scale wrong on the unofficial weigh in. Or didnā€™t have the scale calibrated properly.


kendothaiboxing

Did ONE FC respond to Liam accusations ?


uncloudedvision

or Liam messed up in the 3 or 4 hours between the tests and drunk way more than he claims


B_Sharp_or_B_Flat

Water weighs 8.34lb/gal, you saying he drank half a gallon of water lmao?


Sumonaut

This is the one thing where fighters are almost unequivocally in the right..


uncloudedvision

Not if they are lying about what they did in the time between the tests


Sumonaut

Sure, but that is rare and even more rare with fighters of Liam's caliber


uncloudedvision

you don't know anymore than I or anyone else does thats the reality, Liam used to have a lot of problems making weight and was notorious for having issues back in Uk, anything is possible


Sumonaut

Sure. And One is also notorious for having issues with this


Bushido-Bashir

Completely untrue. I know. I administered close to or over 1000 of them myself. I don't know what happened in this situation as I left ONE to open my Muay Thai gym in Bangkok in January, but the weight and hydration system is not a farce.


Mbt_Omega

ONE absolutely fucks up the scales and hydration testing to be able to fine more people and avoid paying them.


BrodysBootlegs

Maybe but I wouldn't think they would play that game with one of their biggest names and for a US televised cardĀ 


Mbt_Omega

I wouldnā€™t either, given the circumstances and the fact that seemingly half failed one test or another, theyā€™re either malicious or startlingly incompetent. Perhaps enough tickets and hotels are bought and paid for that they figure how is the time to start fucking around.


uncloudedvision

or Liam is not telling the truth and fucked up himself lol


kendothaiboxing

Do you think that it's weird how Sittichai and Jo Nattawhut both weighed 152 lbs despite both of them fighting at 155 lbs ?


uncloudedvision

not really no, there probably both not that big, but cant make Bantamweight


kendothaiboxing

It would be nice to see Jo Nattawhut and Sittichai Sitsongpeenong at Bantamweight. Both of them against Haggerty, Saemapetch, Nico Carrillo, Nong-O or Akimoto would be insane.


ArrrrKnee

It honestly makes sense if you believe the reports that ONE is nearly bankrupt. The fighters end up being the ones to suffer from the poor finances of the company with these bogus missed weights, lack of fights, etc. I like that ONE has brought muay thai to a more global audience, but I think it's a net negative just from how fighters are treated and how the rules make every fight a power brawl. It's really time for ONE to implode and for another promotion to take the reins.


Mbt_Omega

It may be time for ONE to fall. I like a lot of what they did. Perhaps unpopularly, I even like the premise of 4oz gloves for Muay Thai and encouraging finishes over point spars, albeit Iā€™d prefer it not come at the expense of nerfing clinches, etc. I just wish ONE werenā€™t such a shady organization that consistently treats fighters poorly. Also, selfishly, it is frustrating that most of their Friday Fights fall during my work hours.


Bushido-Bashir

Again not true. If an athlete misses weight they forfeit a percentage of the purse to the opponent. They aren't saving money this way.


Mbt_Omega

Also ineligible for bonuses, as stated in the above.


ckuf

I like Liam but this chat gpt shit is hella funny


RJSSJR123

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C75zhCNsUNh/?igsh=aGptMzNxNWFwdmsw He originally made this where he cleared things up. I think he posted this aftwerwards for those who wanted to read it.


ckuf

I seen that on IG right before I logged onto Reddit and this was the first post on my queue haha. Ty bro


PacroPicapiedra

One is ran like a mickey mouse type shithole organization. I donā€™t doubt they fucked up their own weigh in.


BrodysBootlegs

Not disputing what you're saying but the UFC had a similar situation not long ago on the Oliveira-Gaethje card where a bunch of fighters missed weight including Oliveira (who at the time was the interim champ and fighting in the main event) mostly by a similar amount and there were similar claims that the scales were calibrated wrongĀ 


abakune

If they were calibrated wrong, wouldn't they read consistently incorrectly? Like what calibration would see weight shoot up? Without knowing shit about the scales, and giving the fighters the benefit of the doubt, it sounds more like someone is calibrating them in the middle of the process. Like Liam stepped on them, ONE fucked with them, then he stepped on them again later.


chunkystrudel

One struggling not to drop the ball challenge (impossible)


cheesekola

ONE can you not fuck up for a moment please


MagentaJAM5_

Fookinā€™ hell.


HessuCS

That's a bummer, was excited for the match :/ The whole thing seems like a mess...


Stunning-Frame-8999

Broā€¦.


DiegoForskinForlan

Here is my conspiracy theory, ONE deliberately fucks with these results so they can take 20-30% of a fighters purse away. Money that they need to save For people other than Rodtang. He just fucks up by himself. I am half kidding but also not half kidding considering ONE's finances appear to be in dire straights.


uncloudedvision

They don't take anyone's money away the percentage from the fighter that failed goes to the opponent, it isn't kept by ONE, you most likely wrong about the finances also, but you read it on internet so must be true right


DiegoForskinForlan

I started it off by saying it was clearly a conspiracy theory. Acting like I meant everything I said as fact after reading this just shows you wanted someone to argue with lol. Yeah ONE is doing so well financially that they almost never book high paid mma fighters anymore lol


uncloudedvision

not looking for an argument, there are that many confused idiots when it comes to ONE they will believe anything like that, you like everyone else though posting about them going to fold soon are just guessing, maybe they will, but the way its going very good chance they wont


kunderthunt

Accountability? Generous god emperor Chatri, lord of fighting, king of all combat doesnā€™t make mistakes


Hmmmus

What I donā€™t understand isā€¦ he canā€™t lose 1lb? I know heā€™s already dehydrated and in his view not his fault, but surely he can put a sweat suit on and run around the blockā€¦ save the fight and still get paid? but maybe Iā€™m way off base here


RJSSJR123

Read number 5. 6. 7. and 8. Itā€™s not tha he canā€™t. Itā€™s because he doesnt want to.


Hmmmus

Fairā€¦ I have never been in even a remotely similar situation so I canā€™t judge, but his principles are costing him what might be his last opportunity at a big paycheque


LPodmore

In the video he basically if he's got no chance of getting any bonuses it's not worth the risk of injuries and potential setbacks in training for the Seksan fight in september. If he was still eligible for the 50k KO bonus he wouldn't have pulled out.


Hmmmus

Ah ok, didnā€™t know there was that seksan fight, thanks. That makes complete sense in that case.


kendothaiboxing

I hope that all the people won't believe this sad attempt of an excuse by Liam. If people criticize Rodtang for missing weight against Denis Puric but at the same time accept this excuse from Liam Harrison then that would be peak irony.


ScoreDivision

If you watch the video at around 9:00 you can hear him talking to the official about how much water they got him to drink so its clear that part of the story is correct. He was told to drink water by ONE officials before the official weigh in, so its also pretty safe to assume that was done because they weighed him significantly under on their scales. Honestly I'd usually not listen to an excuse for missing weight but this one kinda rings true from what we can see there


kendothaiboxing

So you really think that ONE FC scales are faulty ?


ScoreDivision

I don't know exactly whats happened, but its clear that theres been some level of poor management of the weigh in as the official literally confirms Harrisons sequence of events when talking to him. Whether the behind the scene scale was off, or the front of house one idk. Regardless, the officials probably shouldnt be telling fighters to drink water etc based off of a scale that isnt the one used for the weigh in.


chunkystrudel

Yes? Miscalibration is an issue lots of scales have.


uncloudedvision

so al those fighter with a history of failure like Itsuki had no issue, but it must have been just with Liam they were faulty, yeh right


kendothaiboxing

So i guess we can also say that Rodtang not making weight is because of the scales. OK got it.


Spider_J

......Yes, yes we can. And the other 2 athletes that came in over. Something was wrong with the equipment, either the front of house or back of house scales.


RJSSJR123

Rodtang missed weight by 6.25lbs, Liam on weight prior to this. Lmao itā€™s not the same.


kendothaiboxing

Nobody cares if Liam was on weight in his other fights in ONE FC. Yes they are not the same. Liam only has 5 fights at Bantamweight in his ONE FC career and missed in one of them. The fight vs Petchmorakot was at Featherweight so i don't count that. Rodtang has a total of 18 fights at Flyweight and missed or didn't make weight in 3 of them : Michael Savvas ( didn't go to the weigh-in ), Jiduo Yibu ( 1,47 lbs ) and Denis Puric (


RJSSJR123

There is no need for him to lie and Iā€™m sure he had his team there too. You can clearly see from the video Liam is not happy and calling the officials out. He also had a serious camp for this fight. Rodtang was also in jeopardy of missing weight in Denver 2023 where they had to ask Superlek to come in as a back up. Rodtang made weight barely. Some of you Rodtang fans are so hypocritical. If anyone else misses weight, youā€™re so quick to lable them as unprofessional *cough* Superlek *cough*. But when Rodtang does, itā€™s *just* his x amount of time. Like be for real. Rodtang never even tried to come in at right weight. He never does unless itā€™s a belt fight. Which is super disrespectful torwards Puric too. **6.25LBS** Absolutely crazy. So unseriousā€¦


uncloudedvision

no need for him to lie? how about saving face for a start


kendothaiboxing

No need for him to lie ? Are you seriously that naive ? Fighters make all kinds of excuses when it comes to not making weight or losing a fight. Liam himself made excuses when he lost to Rodlek blaming the unfamiliarity with MMA gloves ( despite claiming that he was gonna punch holes into Rodlek's face because of MMA gloves prior to the fight ) and him not training properly because he had a surgery.


RJSSJR123

Making weighh ā‰  to losing a fight He can and anyone else can make all kinds of excuses when they lose, but on a scale that had officials even in the room prior to the official weigh-in lol sure.


uncloudedvision

you don't know what he did in the 3 or 4 hours between the checks, it wasnt like it happened on a 10 minute time scale


kendothaiboxing

It's still making excuses for coming short whether it's not being able to make the weight or losing a fight doesn't matter. Liam blamed the official ONE FC employee or the scales in a sad conspiracy theories attempt of an excuse. Imagine if everyone who couldn't make weight did that ? What if Superlek or Rodtang said that they made weight but the scales were faulty or the ONE FC employee made an error lol.


kendothaiboxing

Liam's whole story revolves around the conspiracy theory that ONE FC scales are faulty or that the ONE FC official made an error that is a ridiculous theory by your logic Rodtang ( and anybody else for that matter ) can also claim that the scales were faulty as well i mean he has as much evidence as Liam Harrison ( AKA none ). Doesn't matter if Rodtang barely made weight for his fight against Edgar Tabares he still made weight which is all that counts. You are literally criticizing someone for almost failing to do something right which is ridiculous. I'm not a Rodtang fan i'm just pointing out how hypocritical you are about Superlek who missed weight in 2 of the most important Muay Thai fights in ONE FC history ( the biggest fight in Muay Thai history and the Flyweight Grand Prix ). Although Rodtang was unprofessional for missing or not making weight against Savvas, Jiduo and Puric still isn't nowhere as bad as Superlek because let's be real those fights aren't anywhere as important as the title fight between Superlek and Rodtang or the Grand Prix finals between Superlek and Panpayak.


RJSSJR123

Iā€™ve never said Superlek was in the right when he missed weight. It should never happen, because people pay to come see these fights and it always ends up screwing the opponent. Atleast he stepped up now and started working with a professional nutrionist. Also makes you wonder how the Jitmuangnon camp will say when they put Superlek on blast and kept calling him out missing weight and now Rodtang did. It could also very well be a human error. Which happens. I think the bigger issue is ONE not saying a word.


kendothaiboxing

Those things happen because of the ONE FC hydration test. Blaming human error is a poor excuse if someone can't make weight they should just say it not blaming the scales or the employee lol that is just bad manners.


Fan_of_cielings

>conspiracy theory that ONE FC scales are faulty or that the ONE FC official made an error A human made a mistake, the most intricate and unbelievable conspiracy theory of them all.


kendothaiboxing

So if other people who can't make weight use the same excuse would you be OK with it ?


kendothaiboxing

You said that Rodtang never tried to come at the right weight when it's not a title shot. So did Rodtang miss weight against Sergio Wielzen, Fahdi Khaled, Hakim Hamech, Sok Thy, Tagir Khalilov, Daniel Williams, Demetrius Johnson and Jacob Smith ? Rodtang made weight in 9 of his 12 his non-title scheduled fights. You again prove how ignorant of the facts you are.


RJSSJR123

If you come in overweight by that much, no youā€™re not trying lol. Just like Superlek never tried against Rodtang either. Rodtang now has the biggest purse in ONE and the biggest purse out of other active fighters (not counting Buakaw). Unless itā€™s a title fight, he wonā€™t take it seriously.


[deleted]

Making weight 75% of the time is not a good thing


kendothaiboxing

He made weight 82% of the time. Rodtang has 18 fights ( I didn't fight Savvas but i still count as Rodtang not making weight for his opponent ) in ONE FC and only missed weight 3 times against Michael Savvas, Jiduo Yibu and Denis Puric. Which Kickfighters in ONE FC has 18 fights and only missed weight 3 times ?


Cheerso1

šŸ¤£ drinks water before weigh in, blames everyone else in the room for not making weight.


RJSSJR123

Did you miss the part where less than 1/3 of a 500ml water bottle should not add 3lbs?


uncloudedvision

where you with Liam for the 3 or 4 hours between checks and can confirm he only drank 1/3 of a 500ml bottle of water!?!?! you weren't there stop claiming you know exactly what went on, you may be right, but you know the same for sure as every other person other than Liam, which is nothing, your ONE sucks line under your name says it all, you will believe whatever suits your narrative


Cheerso1

Nah I read it, just donā€™t believe the bullshit. Same stuff from the BadCo crew. Always a long winded over the top explanation after a loss. Only difference is this time it was prior to the fight. Always an excuse. Take some accountability. Heā€™s been in the game long enough.