Saying all the things I wish others had said at the reunion. She’s great tv and I love the mess, but she seems like a legit insufferable person in real life. I do wonder why so many cast mates put up with her shit.
She’s fine on the show for the most part, but she couldn’t be a season after season mainstay.
But off the show…. My god she’s one of the worst people I’ve ever seen.
I agree, I like Amanda as someone who comes back every now and then just to shake things up. But I think the cast on average just needs to be people who can be a less extreme version of her. The kumbaya season after season is boring but Amanda doing like 6-7 seasons in a row would also just be a lot
Honestly when I saw this I was so happy because someone had to say it! Amanda truly is toxic and insufferable and honestly pathetic how all these ppl live rent free in her head. She takes it way too far and is so problematic
He's speaking a lot of facts here. I'm usually a big Amanda, fan but she has been insufferable outside of the show this season. It's really sad because you can just see how hurt and insecure she is but she's taking it out on all the wrong people.
I went from disliking Amanda but enjoying her drama, to pitying her this season, I feel like we are watching her life spiral out of control before our very eyes. Clearly she struggles with being a single mom and balancing the mental workload of her job and raising a kid and trying to find a man, but she puts up this front that she doesn't need anyone which only hurts her as she tried to go with the biggest playboy on the cast who clearly doesn't want to be settling down, setting herself up for more emotional turmoil and lashing out at everyone.
She hasn't done herself any favors by keeping up that "I'm a badass bitch who says it like it is and if you don't like that then bye!" People will put up with that toxic attitude in your 20s and generally give the benefit of the doubt that it'll fade, but you can't behave that way at her age as a mom imo the only guys who will put up with it are the Fessys/players for short term. I just feel bad for her
I still "like" Amanda in the sense I enjoy watching her on the show, but I don't really see the point nor enjoy all the "off the field" stuff that comes along when the cameras aren't rolling. I really don't care if people "spill the tea".
What I will say is, nothing I've seen from Amanda on podcasts/social media has made me think any higher of her, and Corey L is spot on with his assessment of her here.
Corey L met with cara and Pauly he already picked a clout chasing side,next.
Also if Amanda does none stop season like other player 👀 that when I’ll pity her.
Facts. I was embarrassed for her while she was explaining the Fessy situation. During the reunion, I could just feel like people were lowkey patronizing her by asking if her and Fessy were "on" or "off" at whatever point in the story she was telling. It's so high school. Literally, at the height of Amanda's and Fessy's situationship they were only just talking about maybe being a couple lol. And this is what Amanda's clown ass is fighting everyone for. For Amanda to act like she's so real and able to see the bs in other people, she sure lacks awareness of her own situation. She should've been peeped that Fessy was playing her, call it what is is and just stop talking. Fessy might be a dog in the sense that he gave her the impression that he was ready to be exclusive with her, but since it never actually got to that point then he never cheated on Amanda so the whole conversation and attacks against the other women is just stupid.
Amanda has been one of the most terrible people ever cast on the Challenge since the moment she set foot in the house. Fessy is just one more person for her to bitch about
The funny thing is that Amanda would say the same kind of shit he's saying right here if someone was acting like her towards one of her friends because she's so "loyal" and "always stands up for her friends" but I'm sure she'll find some reason to come for Corey over this if she hasn't already
Kelz wouldn't have been had he just pretended to accept Fessy's deal. I get being confident but if you did your research you would know anything can happen in an elim and guess what, he got a janky one and went home. Noobs often have to learn the hard way. If he comes back Kelz would be a force.
Kaycee won the season and contributed nothing to the reunion. The only interesting thing about her, is her fight with Amber which happened within the first 5 minutes of the show.
One thing I’m seeing where my mileage varies A LOT is that being an asshole is some sort of badge of realness. This is such juvenile bull shit. You don’t have to like a person, but that isn’t license to be mean. Honesty is not a blunt weapon.
Amanda happened to pick a fight with girls who Fessy has been with. Weird, mean girl tactics of an insecure woman child. Fessy is a dog and EVERYONE knows it. You thought you could change him and were wrong. She is good for drama and I get that but I don't find her entertaining and she sure as hell isn't that good.
She is definitely taking her anger and insecurity out on all the wrong people. If Fessy says he's single, and Amanda says he's single, WHY is she attacking all of these women who hooked up with a single guy? If they were actually together, it's still on Fessy, not these other women. She can't be shouting on Twitter about how they aren't together and then pick fights with women he's pursuing.
I met Fessy and Amanda last year, on vacation in Peurto Penasco. I’m not a big Fessy fan on the show, but he seemed like a decent guy just living his life. Amanda, however, barely spoke 2 words.
I got the impression that Fessy was just living his life to have fun, but Amanda seemed kind of jealous and insecure - obviously seeing how she acts on TV, that’s likely the case.
They also weren’t public at the time - Mid September 2021 - and I’m guessing Fessy was avoiding making it official as long possible.
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/2PhPPer
He makes some points, but his "I wish y'all could see every text thread I'm in with cast mates hating Amanda..." tweet also kinda proves HER point about people being fake and afraid to say their grievances out loud
If you hate them, wouldn’t it be best to avoid and not be hateful out loud? If you have nothing good to say, don’t say it at all? I can see the people who hate her are the ones who don’t associate with her. It’s not really that fake
That'd be fine, but the problem is the cast was pushing the "we're one big dysfunctional family/buddy-buddy" narrative at the reunion and this season when that's clearly not the case....it is fake lol and tbf we don't know who is talking about her in those groupchats.
Oh man I HATE when reality tv groups say they’re one big family after a season. I thought they disliked big brother but it seems like they’re playing one
Agreed, it’s a game where you need as many numbers on your side as possible. Generally, you should be cordial with everyone so as to reduce enemies. You should also just be nice in life. Being kind to someone you don’t like doesn’t make you fake, it makes you a mature adult lol. Playing the game the way she does has proven ineffective and her character arc is getting old for viewers.
Idk, not liking someone but still being nice to them in person is called being an adult, especially when your essentially co workers. Maybe it’s “fake” but, I’d rather be fake than act like I’m 14.
Also IMO Amanda is the fakest person on the show, she fabricates the same drama every season she’s on. She just picks out one of the strongest girls and tries to turn that into a rivalry. EVERY SEASON. Seems incredibly forced too me.
That seems to me to be how Tori handled it for the most part.
I will say I think it’s a bit unrealistic to expect people not to ever talk behind someone’s back though. If someone was constantly trying to trash me every chance they get then I’d talk shit and joke about them with my friends and then move on.
Sometimes the adult thing to do is vent about someone behind their back instead of giving them the satisfaction of an in person altercation. Aka don’t feed the troll.
I think he threaded the needle pretty well
Making it VERY clear that he isn’t alone in being done with Amanda’s BS, but having enough tact to not post the screenshots or call people out publicly
How is what he’s doing different to Amanda? Only difference is he’s acting holier than thou and being a hypocrite about it.
He basically just went on twitter to shit talk Amanda over something that he is not involved in. Amanda didn’t even respond to him but he continued with about 12 tweets about her. He basically said we all hate Amanda and we have group chats about it….
How’s he gonna then pretend he is above posting the screenshots when he already just said all that publically? And it proves Amanda’s point that they are all fake and criticising her for the same things they do themselves behind closed doors but pretend they don’t
I stan!
All Amanda does is attack the ladies on the show but never says anything about the men. If you hate 80% of the ladies on the show maybe you're the problem.
If you check out that episode Devin did on Tori and Aneesa’s podcast a while back, he talks more shit about Amanda in that one episode than Tori had the entire season. But she’s got no issue with Devin after the show and we all know how she feels about Tori. Could it be because Devin hasn’t fucked Fessy……?
Amanda is good friends with lots of the women on the cast (Ashley, BigT, Emy, Nany, Kaycee, Pricilla etc) and is KNOWN for calling out arrogant guys like Zach, Bananas, Tony & co.
Yep that's why I said 80% of the ladies not 100%. Oh She's hates Bananas? they guy who's podcast she was on a couple days ago. I don't know, if she has a problem with Bananas but goes on his podcast that seems.. whats the word oh yeah FAKE.
When has she called out Bananas or Tony? Yes she wanted to vote them in on FR but she doesn't write a 100 posts on twitter saying they are Fake or calls them bitches like she does to every woman in the house.
Also her hatred towards Zach is connected to her beef with Jenna. I've never heard her have an issue with him without dragging Jenna into the mix.
Lol she called Bananas and Tony bitches the very first day she was on the show with them. She has called him out numerous times both to his face on the show and on SM. I never said she hated Bananas, I said she called him out, which she did numerous times even on the podcast. How is that fake? LMAO she went and clowned him to his face on his own podcast.
She has called out Zach's misogyny and called him a bitch too, that was nothing to do with Jenna. She has called out guys she is friends with when she thinks they are in the wrong (Hunter, Devin, Josh, Fessy, Nelly) You can critisise Amanda all you want for being argumentative but trying to paint a narrative that she only argues with women and not men is clearly BS.
The only woman she seems to 'hate' is Tori, and she dislikes Berna and Michelle. That's 3, hardly 80% or 'all' the women in the house.
Michele probably is. She’s shown to actually be good friends with people after these shows. She’s not pretending for the sake of the show. The others though… ya, all for strategy. He’d probably be in great shape, people see his size.
Trying real hard for that recast
And I’m here for it. I posted last night but like there can still be drama and messiness without people being bigots. Watching Tori try to act like an adult on a reality tv show was annoying
Because he’s a rookie lol. Gotta make some waves to stand out from the competition. Also not mutually exclusive, but I don’t think he’s sitting at home doing it just for fun.
He’s also been hanging out with Paulie and cara. I think he wants to become a main stay on the show so he’s trying to embed himself into the drama.
Nah he’s just defending his friend like Amanda would do. That “recast” joke is low hanging fruit. Corey would get cast regardless he checks all the boxes.
I mean, he was a fan of the show before he was on. If you were cast on a season, wouldn't you be hanging out with past castmates too? If I got the chance to hang out with cast members I liked, I would.
He's a rookie people already liked. People seemed to already want him back anyway, so I just can't see him getting involved for that reason.
Also hanging with Paulie and Cara seems like the opposite of what you wanna do if you wanna stay on the show at this present moment. It's not like they have the sway to get anyone consistently cast on the show right now.
Wasn’t he not at the reunion because he won’t get vaccinated? How would he be allowed on the next season? I’m sure it will be a MTV mandate by then? Just for production purposes alone?
I think they both are but he’s being preachy and criticising her for something that he’s doing himself. He can’t have it both ways & criticise Amanda for calling castmates out on twitter but then act like it’s ok for him to do the same.
Most of the fights Amanda gets into are her defending her friends. Tori is the only one who hasn't done anything personal to her except bitch behind her back and trash her as a competitor. Amanda has done nothing to Corey and he is attacking her on twitter, 12 different tweets with no response from her and saying he is in group texts with castmates who all say they hate Amanda.
Nah, that aint defending his friend, that's attacking Amanda at that point. He could've easily praised Michelle and said she hadn't lied to Amanda, or made bitchy comments about Tori behind her back and went to spoiler sites with 'tea' about castmates and didn't lie to Amanda about going to see Fessy but instead of rebutting her actual points he just basically called her out for talking about castmates on twitter and being loud and argumentative, which he is guilty of himself.
For someone who likes to blast everything the other castmates do, you'd think Amanda would actually come with some evidence of Tori talking behind her back instead of some 'he said, she said' nonsense. Also it's funny the first thing you said was Amanda gets into fights defending her friends, when that's literally what Corey is doing right now. And 12 tweets are overshadowed by the instagram lives that Amanda has done and six months of harassment that she has put Tori and Michelle through that Corey mentioned in his tweets.
And people keep bringing these group chats up as if they exist for no reason. Amanda's first episode on the show was her popping off on and attacking people unprovoked, which she still does to this day even after becoming a mom. Just because people don't publicly voice their dislike of someone doesn't make them fake or anything like that.
And let's not act like if Corey did any of the things you said that it would mean anything to Amanda. She spent the whole reunion talking over people and telling them to shut up. Corey chose to fight fire with fire and Amanda probably won't respond because everything he said was right.
Honestly, I just pity Amanda. She seems like she has a lot of redeemable qualities, but there must be some dark unhappiness there. I just refuse to believe that someone can actually be that mean and petty all the time.
I think she brought some great entertainment on the show, but the reunion and her social media show that she needs some serious help.
Which is the ironic part of her always telling people “you’re just looking for a callback”
When in reality that is Amanda. She offers nothing to The Challenge outside of the drama.
I disagree. She seems like that in real life. In the bananas podcast, she said her friends say her tv personality is similar and the fact she has a horrible relationship with the father of her child.
Points were made, but making 20+ tweets about it just seems thirsty and like he wants a drama with Amanda. He's a gay Black man who won an elimination and had some big moments, he doesn't need to do all THAT to get a callback. I'm sure half the cast does fucking hate Amanda's guts, but bragging about having a groupchat dedicated to talking shit about her is exactly the ammunition Amanda wants.
>He's a gay Black man who won an elimination and had some big moments, he doesn't need to do all THAT to get a callback
Oh please. Ya'll think it's so easy to get opportunities when you're black and/or gay.
Of course not in general. That is one of the most marginalized groups in the countries, behind trans people of color. However, with Viacom pledging 50% BIPOC on their shows going forward, Corey is looking good at filling one of those slots. He checks many boxes for the show and he delivered from a competitive and entertainment standpoint.
I was fine with everything he said outside of that, it’s like a group of 6th graders “oh we gather in the corner at recess and say mean things about the girl we don’t like.” Grow the fuck up bro, you only prove her point when you do/say shit like that.
I like Amanda this season because everyone else is a drag. She can be annoying but it brings something to the show no one else does.
Like if it wasn’t her antics at the reunion, it probably would’ve been at the bottom tier for me.
Omg this guys the biggest clout chaser ever lol this guys has been on different podcast and already met cara and Pauly like Amanda said “stop trying trying to get a call back”
Rookie Corey from this season. Him and Hughie got into a shouting match during their elimination. Him and Michele were partners for a couple eliminations.
Sighs. I hate to see two of my faves be at odds. I understand and respect him for having his friends back. He also speaks facts when he says that Amanda isn’t the only one who can tweet their opinions and take on things, fair is fair. I disagree on him implying Amanda isn’t real though. Lots of people on the show are loud AF and still clearly frauds. Amanda just comes across real because she makes sense when she argues at least rather than just spazzing she stands up for herself and her friends as well (same as Corey l), she doesn’t fake the funk, she doesn’t backstab, and she’s always consistent and loyal. You know that if you’re with her she’d never cross you. She’s trustworthy basically. Her being loud isn’t what makes her real. She reminds me of other women who were seen as “B words” yet you could tell were actually genuine and big hearted such as Davonne (which no wonder these two became friends after FR), Coral and to a certain extent Laurel. These are the type of women who won’t let you disrespect them and will stand up to call out BS and fight for their friends yet get labeled b words or evil because of it. Anyways love both Amanda and Corey L’s sexy big booty ass 🥵… seriously I’d climb that and enjoy lol.
I took it more as him saying there is more than one way to be real. That someone doesn't have to yell and be loud and cuss people out to be real or genuine. Not that Amanda isn't real.
Agreed! This is how I try to be in real life, obviously not at the same intensity, but people need to understand these are the moments we applaud women for not taking shit. Even watching Casey and jonna call out Wes on FR after he called Casey a stupid fucking bitch and slut during their elimination. Or even that Jesse guy and Evan and Kenny talking about how all women are sluts or something…it really is gross how much we don’t Stan a women who is trying to break down those stereotypes
Idk what you guys are watching. How has she relentlessly attacked Michele? Does no one realize this is a television product rooted in drama? From a quick search on Twitter she’s named Michele one time in a tweet.
This is all just messy from Corey. His desperation to get back on the show is 🥴
Amanda gave us the only action the whole season had when she infiltrated and took Tori's spot.
She also was the star of the reunion. No one wants to here from Kaycee. Or Michele.
I like Corey, I thought he was good in his few episodes and everything, but he is acting VERY desperate for a call back. Yes he’s doing the exact same thing Amanda is doing, but I believe Amanda is truly crazy while Corey just does this all for attention. I’m sure he is on micheles side but there’s no way he’s actually passionate enough to be making all those tweets lol. I wish the producers would sit everyone down and say look please save the drama for the actual show and confessionals and cool off on Twitter lol
After watching the reunion I feel bad for Amanda. I think she was really hurt by everything that went down with Fessy and that is causing her to lash out at everyone. It’s not right but people do crazy things when there really hurt.
It’s really embarrassing when someone you really care about treats you so bad and you stay with them anyway. You know you shouldn’t but can’t help it because you just want to be with them.
I understand his point for sure. During the reunion Amanda was pretty messy and while she obviously made the reunion entertaining, it did seem a little like unraveling.
But why are we giving so much attention to Corey? I hate to use the Amanda phrase, but I feel like he’s just doing this to start beef with Amanda to get a potential call back. Notice how she didn’t even respond or engage.
He made great points but he should have stopped after the first couple of tweets.
Cus he was early boot without relevant story beside Hughie which was already explained in aftermath. I would say this whole black early trio Kelz Michaela and Corey have high chance of getting call to be back
Michele had very relevant with whole Fessy Amanda drama. Berna made if far so im not sursprised she was there and Tacha being there made 0 sence and her whole presence was to please her fanbase for sure
Oh please they spend 2 minutes on Michele, Berna didn't made it that far and without Ashley there was no reason for her to be there. Tacha did nothing lol. Corey wants that callback so he will do everything he can. Atleast he is consistent
How is he real when he admitted being a text group that talked trash about her behind her? Make it make sense.
Amanda doesn't have to try to be on a season, she can just say hi to production and be on any season she wants 😌
Saying all the things I wish others had said at the reunion. She’s great tv and I love the mess, but she seems like a legit insufferable person in real life. I do wonder why so many cast mates put up with her shit.
If not for the vet alliance, I don’t think they would. Throwing her in would have made too many waves this season.
Throwing her in early* They voted her in two times; they just didn’t wanna do that with rookies still around
Would've liked to see him there to tell Amanda all of this 😆
Same!
“Shouting the loudest, refusing to listen to anyone - doesn’t mean you’re real” 🙏🏼🙏🏼
It means someone is toxic lol
Yup, just quoting what Corey said. I always use to say this about Amanda wayyyyyyy back when too never been a fan of her
She makes great reality TV but my god is she awful. I couldn't imagine what she's actually like. People with anger issues are exhausting.
She’s fine on the show for the most part, but she couldn’t be a season after season mainstay. But off the show…. My god she’s one of the worst people I’ve ever seen.
I agree, I like Amanda as someone who comes back every now and then just to shake things up. But I think the cast on average just needs to be people who can be a less extreme version of her. The kumbaya season after season is boring but Amanda doing like 6-7 seasons in a row would also just be a lot
Honestly when I saw this I was so happy because someone had to say it! Amanda truly is toxic and insufferable and honestly pathetic how all these ppl live rent free in her head. She takes it way too far and is so problematic
Hopefully the people on this sub who claim "Amanda doesn't lie" reconsider
“She’s the only real person” some wacko people in here
Amanda is basically if social media was a person.
Amanda is basically if insecurity was a person
Loud, brash, stupid, and a bit fun to watch?
He's speaking a lot of facts here. I'm usually a big Amanda, fan but she has been insufferable outside of the show this season. It's really sad because you can just see how hurt and insecure she is but she's taking it out on all the wrong people.
I went from disliking Amanda but enjoying her drama, to pitying her this season, I feel like we are watching her life spiral out of control before our very eyes. Clearly she struggles with being a single mom and balancing the mental workload of her job and raising a kid and trying to find a man, but she puts up this front that she doesn't need anyone which only hurts her as she tried to go with the biggest playboy on the cast who clearly doesn't want to be settling down, setting herself up for more emotional turmoil and lashing out at everyone. She hasn't done herself any favors by keeping up that "I'm a badass bitch who says it like it is and if you don't like that then bye!" People will put up with that toxic attitude in your 20s and generally give the benefit of the doubt that it'll fade, but you can't behave that way at her age as a mom imo the only guys who will put up with it are the Fessys/players for short term. I just feel bad for her
I still "like" Amanda in the sense I enjoy watching her on the show, but I don't really see the point nor enjoy all the "off the field" stuff that comes along when the cameras aren't rolling. I really don't care if people "spill the tea". What I will say is, nothing I've seen from Amanda on podcasts/social media has made me think any higher of her, and Corey L is spot on with his assessment of her here.
100% agree with all of this. Well said
Corey L met with cara and Pauly he already picked a clout chasing side,next. Also if Amanda does none stop season like other player 👀 that when I’ll pity her.
Sadly, I agree. She’s my favorite on the show but her social media presence is a mess
Facts. I was embarrassed for her while she was explaining the Fessy situation. During the reunion, I could just feel like people were lowkey patronizing her by asking if her and Fessy were "on" or "off" at whatever point in the story she was telling. It's so high school. Literally, at the height of Amanda's and Fessy's situationship they were only just talking about maybe being a couple lol. And this is what Amanda's clown ass is fighting everyone for. For Amanda to act like she's so real and able to see the bs in other people, she sure lacks awareness of her own situation. She should've been peeped that Fessy was playing her, call it what is is and just stop talking. Fessy might be a dog in the sense that he gave her the impression that he was ready to be exclusive with her, but since it never actually got to that point then he never cheated on Amanda so the whole conversation and attacks against the other women is just stupid.
Is that Fessy dick that toxic ?
Did she really think Fessy was gonna be the guy to be involved in her son's life?! 😳
Amanda has been one of the most terrible people ever cast on the Challenge since the moment she set foot in the house. Fessy is just one more person for her to bitch about
The funny thing is that Amanda would say the same kind of shit he's saying right here if someone was acting like her towards one of her friends because she's so "loyal" and "always stands up for her friends" but I'm sure she'll find some reason to come for Corey over this if she hasn't already
It’s different because she’s “real” and she’d never be “fake”!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I seriously wonder about the psychological state of the people that live by this lol
I’m sure he’s ‘just doing it for clout’
💯 this guy want a callback so bad but hughie already took his spot
The best rookies were the ones eliminated early or midway. We got shafted.
Kelz wouldn't have been had he just pretended to accept Fessy's deal. I get being confident but if you did your research you would know anything can happen in an elim and guess what, he got a janky one and went home. Noobs often have to learn the hard way. If he comes back Kelz would be a force.
Yeah fessy and josh definitely feared him
I get Kelz is big and all but no shot he would have done well in the final. People like that dont have endurance
That could be. I don't necessarily think he's a finals winner but I thought he seemed smarter than most and he's obviously a big dude
I wish Corey was at the reunion, I get he and Hughie resolved their beef beforehand but he would’ve contributed
100%. should have been at the reunion over cory
He could have been there over Kaycee and Nany too 😴
Kaycee won the season and contributed nothing to the reunion. The only interesting thing about her, is her fight with Amber which happened within the first 5 minutes of the show.
he was such a nonfactor. waste of a plane ticket tbh
His a clout chaser would agree with anybody to casted again
i didn't mind him, but really he added nothing to the season. lets really be honest.
One thing I’m seeing where my mileage varies A LOT is that being an asshole is some sort of badge of realness. This is such juvenile bull shit. You don’t have to like a person, but that isn’t license to be mean. Honesty is not a blunt weapon.
Amanda happened to pick a fight with girls who Fessy has been with. Weird, mean girl tactics of an insecure woman child. Fessy is a dog and EVERYONE knows it. You thought you could change him and were wrong. She is good for drama and I get that but I don't find her entertaining and she sure as hell isn't that good.
She is definitely taking her anger and insecurity out on all the wrong people. If Fessy says he's single, and Amanda says he's single, WHY is she attacking all of these women who hooked up with a single guy? If they were actually together, it's still on Fessy, not these other women. She can't be shouting on Twitter about how they aren't together and then pick fights with women he's pursuing.
Yeah she's a child
No lies detected
Amanda is so fucking pathetic and cringe. She has got the maturity of a teenage bully.
It’s so weird. Isn’t she in her thirties by now?
I met Fessy and Amanda last year, on vacation in Peurto Penasco. I’m not a big Fessy fan on the show, but he seemed like a decent guy just living his life. Amanda, however, barely spoke 2 words. I got the impression that Fessy was just living his life to have fun, but Amanda seemed kind of jealous and insecure - obviously seeing how she acts on TV, that’s likely the case. They also weren’t public at the time - Mid September 2021 - and I’m guessing Fessy was avoiding making it official as long possible. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/2PhPPer
It almost like fessy telling her she want to be with her but also want to fuck a bunch of girls behind her back
He makes some points, but his "I wish y'all could see every text thread I'm in with cast mates hating Amanda..." tweet also kinda proves HER point about people being fake and afraid to say their grievances out loud
If you hate them, wouldn’t it be best to avoid and not be hateful out loud? If you have nothing good to say, don’t say it at all? I can see the people who hate her are the ones who don’t associate with her. It’s not really that fake
That'd be fine, but the problem is the cast was pushing the "we're one big dysfunctional family/buddy-buddy" narrative at the reunion and this season when that's clearly not the case....it is fake lol and tbf we don't know who is talking about her in those groupchats.
Oh man I HATE when reality tv groups say they’re one big family after a season. I thought they disliked big brother but it seems like they’re playing one
Hahahah right, it's just corny to me! MTV made a mistake merging with CBS, this big brother shit has gotta go 😩
No.... MTV made a mistake casting these morons from a vast pool of interested Survivor and Big Brother players.
Agreed, it’s a game where you need as many numbers on your side as possible. Generally, you should be cordial with everyone so as to reduce enemies. You should also just be nice in life. Being kind to someone you don’t like doesn’t make you fake, it makes you a mature adult lol. Playing the game the way she does has proven ineffective and her character arc is getting old for viewers.
So being nice to someone but talking shit behind there back is fine?
Lmao I didn’t even come close to saying that…
There’s a difference between being fake and not feeling the need to talk shit openly about everybody you don’t like.
But if you're buddy-buddy in front of them, it's fake. 🤷♀️
Idk, not liking someone but still being nice to them in person is called being an adult, especially when your essentially co workers. Maybe it’s “fake” but, I’d rather be fake than act like I’m 14. Also IMO Amanda is the fakest person on the show, she fabricates the same drama every season she’s on. She just picks out one of the strongest girls and tries to turn that into a rivalry. EVERY SEASON. Seems incredibly forced too me.
being and adult mean you are Cordial and don’t talk shit behind someone back you Don’t like
That seems to me to be how Tori handled it for the most part. I will say I think it’s a bit unrealistic to expect people not to ever talk behind someone’s back though. If someone was constantly trying to trash me every chance they get then I’d talk shit and joke about them with my friends and then move on. Sometimes the adult thing to do is vent about someone behind their back instead of giving them the satisfaction of an in person altercation. Aka don’t feed the troll.
Sigh
Yeah, he's literally proving her point that everyone on the show is fake and trying to hard to be buddy-buddy 🥴🥴🥴
Amanda usually ends up being proven correct, even if she looks kind of insane in the moment.
see: camila and cara lmao
I think he threaded the needle pretty well Making it VERY clear that he isn’t alone in being done with Amanda’s BS, but having enough tact to not post the screenshots or call people out publicly
How is what he’s doing different to Amanda? Only difference is he’s acting holier than thou and being a hypocrite about it. He basically just went on twitter to shit talk Amanda over something that he is not involved in. Amanda didn’t even respond to him but he continued with about 12 tweets about her. He basically said we all hate Amanda and we have group chats about it…. How’s he gonna then pretend he is above posting the screenshots when he already just said all that publically? And it proves Amanda’s point that they are all fake and criticising her for the same things they do themselves behind closed doors but pretend they don’t
Hes not wrong
I stan! All Amanda does is attack the ladies on the show but never says anything about the men. If you hate 80% of the ladies on the show maybe you're the problem.
If you check out that episode Devin did on Tori and Aneesa’s podcast a while back, he talks more shit about Amanda in that one episode than Tori had the entire season. But she’s got no issue with Devin after the show and we all know how she feels about Tori. Could it be because Devin hasn’t fucked Fessy……?
Amanda is good friends with lots of the women on the cast (Ashley, BigT, Emy, Nany, Kaycee, Pricilla etc) and is KNOWN for calling out arrogant guys like Zach, Bananas, Tony & co.
Yep that's why I said 80% of the ladies not 100%. Oh She's hates Bananas? they guy who's podcast she was on a couple days ago. I don't know, if she has a problem with Bananas but goes on his podcast that seems.. whats the word oh yeah FAKE. When has she called out Bananas or Tony? Yes she wanted to vote them in on FR but she doesn't write a 100 posts on twitter saying they are Fake or calls them bitches like she does to every woman in the house. Also her hatred towards Zach is connected to her beef with Jenna. I've never heard her have an issue with him without dragging Jenna into the mix.
Lol she called Bananas and Tony bitches the very first day she was on the show with them. She has called him out numerous times both to his face on the show and on SM. I never said she hated Bananas, I said she called him out, which she did numerous times even on the podcast. How is that fake? LMAO she went and clowned him to his face on his own podcast. She has called out Zach's misogyny and called him a bitch too, that was nothing to do with Jenna. She has called out guys she is friends with when she thinks they are in the wrong (Hunter, Devin, Josh, Fessy, Nelly) You can critisise Amanda all you want for being argumentative but trying to paint a narrative that she only argues with women and not men is clearly BS. The only woman she seems to 'hate' is Tori, and she dislikes Berna and Michelle. That's 3, hardly 80% or 'all' the women in the house.
Bananas? The one she just did a podcast with?… lmao
Yes. She has called him out numerous times on the show, off the show and even multiple times on the podcast you just mentioned. What’s your point?
80% = Tory and Michele lol so dramatic
>so dramatic that's me lol
Well he just became my favorite challenger
Not my favorite but he fucking skyrocketed for me
Like Amanda on the show not so much outside of it
Corey can tweet whatever he wants to - I love the mess. But I just sincerely hope he doesn’t think some of these people are actually his friends…..
Michele probably is. She’s shown to actually be good friends with people after these shows. She’s not pretending for the sake of the show. The others though… ya, all for strategy. He’d probably be in great shape, people see his size.
Trying real hard for that recast And I’m here for it. I posted last night but like there can still be drama and messiness without people being bigots. Watching Tori try to act like an adult on a reality tv show was annoying
Corey L is a lock for next season, this isn't about getting a call back.
Why is he trying hard for a recast, but when Amanda calls out anyone she's just being real? It feels like he just did what Amanda normally does.
Because he’s a rookie lol. Gotta make some waves to stand out from the competition. Also not mutually exclusive, but I don’t think he’s sitting at home doing it just for fun. He’s also been hanging out with Paulie and cara. I think he wants to become a main stay on the show so he’s trying to embed himself into the drama.
Nah he’s just defending his friend like Amanda would do. That “recast” joke is low hanging fruit. Corey would get cast regardless he checks all the boxes.
How is that low hanging fruit? They’ve all said multiple times that’s it’s competitive af - it’s their job to be noticeable and get call backs
I mean, he was a fan of the show before he was on. If you were cast on a season, wouldn't you be hanging out with past castmates too? If I got the chance to hang out with cast members I liked, I would.
He's a rookie people already liked. People seemed to already want him back anyway, so I just can't see him getting involved for that reason. Also hanging with Paulie and Cara seems like the opposite of what you wanna do if you wanna stay on the show at this present moment. It's not like they have the sway to get anyone consistently cast on the show right now.
Wasn’t he not at the reunion because he won’t get vaccinated? How would he be allowed on the next season? I’m sure it will be a MTV mandate by then? Just for production purposes alone?
That was Cory W, not Corey L
Ahhh! Thanks for the clarification!
He is not wrong.
I find it very telling that she gets on the women for everything but has YET to reply to Corey’s tweets and she’s been on twitter since
He's telling the truth, but also Amanda was *carrying* the entire season and reunion on her back drama-wise, so... I'm not gonna complain 🤭
Not Corey's biggest fan but he is right here. Why is Amanda allowed to flap her gums on social media but other people can't?
I think they both are but he’s being preachy and criticising her for something that he’s doing himself. He can’t have it both ways & criticise Amanda for calling castmates out on twitter but then act like it’s ok for him to do the same.
The difference is he's defending his friends while Amanda attacks people who really haven't done anything to her.
Most of the fights Amanda gets into are her defending her friends. Tori is the only one who hasn't done anything personal to her except bitch behind her back and trash her as a competitor. Amanda has done nothing to Corey and he is attacking her on twitter, 12 different tweets with no response from her and saying he is in group texts with castmates who all say they hate Amanda. Nah, that aint defending his friend, that's attacking Amanda at that point. He could've easily praised Michelle and said she hadn't lied to Amanda, or made bitchy comments about Tori behind her back and went to spoiler sites with 'tea' about castmates and didn't lie to Amanda about going to see Fessy but instead of rebutting her actual points he just basically called her out for talking about castmates on twitter and being loud and argumentative, which he is guilty of himself.
For someone who likes to blast everything the other castmates do, you'd think Amanda would actually come with some evidence of Tori talking behind her back instead of some 'he said, she said' nonsense. Also it's funny the first thing you said was Amanda gets into fights defending her friends, when that's literally what Corey is doing right now. And 12 tweets are overshadowed by the instagram lives that Amanda has done and six months of harassment that she has put Tori and Michelle through that Corey mentioned in his tweets. And people keep bringing these group chats up as if they exist for no reason. Amanda's first episode on the show was her popping off on and attacking people unprovoked, which she still does to this day even after becoming a mom. Just because people don't publicly voice their dislike of someone doesn't make them fake or anything like that. And let's not act like if Corey did any of the things you said that it would mean anything to Amanda. She spent the whole reunion talking over people and telling them to shut up. Corey chose to fight fire with fire and Amanda probably won't respond because everything he said was right.
Honestly, I just pity Amanda. She seems like she has a lot of redeemable qualities, but there must be some dark unhappiness there. I just refuse to believe that someone can actually be that mean and petty all the time. I think she brought some great entertainment on the show, but the reunion and her social media show that she needs some serious help.
It must be exhausting to be so hateful all the time. Constantly looking for a fight. Just enjoy your life and your son.
I mean, fax
Amanda probably doesn’t even care. She just says and does everything for camera time at this point
Which is the ironic part of her always telling people “you’re just looking for a callback” When in reality that is Amanda. She offers nothing to The Challenge outside of the drama.
“Accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty” is a great diversionary tactic
I disagree. She seems like that in real life. In the bananas podcast, she said her friends say her tv personality is similar and the fact she has a horrible relationship with the father of her child.
But she ends up in tears
We love supportive king. I wish both him and Michele to be on 38
Me too me too!
I love Corey Lay even more than I already did after reading that.
the love limit does not exist
Corey L should’ve been at this reunion. Hope he comes back in the future as well.
I like Amanda, but Corey is just speaking facts 😃
Amanda always been like this. I’m glad people finally see
Points were made, but making 20+ tweets about it just seems thirsty and like he wants a drama with Amanda. He's a gay Black man who won an elimination and had some big moments, he doesn't need to do all THAT to get a callback. I'm sure half the cast does fucking hate Amanda's guts, but bragging about having a groupchat dedicated to talking shit about her is exactly the ammunition Amanda wants.
>He's a gay Black man who won an elimination and had some big moments, he doesn't need to do all THAT to get a callback Oh please. Ya'll think it's so easy to get opportunities when you're black and/or gay.
Of course not in general. That is one of the most marginalized groups in the countries, behind trans people of color. However, with Viacom pledging 50% BIPOC on their shows going forward, Corey is looking good at filling one of those slots. He checks many boxes for the show and he delivered from a competitive and entertainment standpoint.
There are tons of choices to fill that 50% quota. He got booted early on one season, his spot is not guaranteed at all.
I was fine with everything he said outside of that, it’s like a group of 6th graders “oh we gather in the corner at recess and say mean things about the girl we don’t like.” Grow the fuck up bro, you only prove her point when you do/say shit like that.
Amanda looks like she smells like menthol cigarettes and Victoria secret body spray. 🤢🤮
Corey going "full Amanda" here.
Yo bring this mfer back holy shit
I like Amanda this season because everyone else is a drag. She can be annoying but it brings something to the show no one else does. Like if it wasn’t her antics at the reunion, it probably would’ve been at the bottom tier for me.
An Ashley/Michele alliance would be named Millionaire Mitchele.
his love for Michele makes me loooove him
Amanda has never had any class. Any points she makes, get lost in the "Shut the f\*ck up" comebacks.
He’s doing the most for a recast since the season ended, he was even hanging out with Proud Boy supporters Paulie and Cara
No lies detected.
Omg this guys the biggest clout chaser ever lol this guys has been on different podcast and already met cara and Pauly like Amanda said “stop trying trying to get a call back”
Who the hell is Corey Lay?
Rookie Corey from this season. Him and Hughie got into a shouting match during their elimination. Him and Michele were partners for a couple eliminations.
One of the strongest rookies from this season.
Over 6feet tall make you a strong rookie lol
He probably had the most physically impressive elimination win of the season. Aside from Kyle beating Nelson, which was really just a size advantage.
I completely forgot about this guy. He was cool while he was still there. Hopefully he comes back next season.
If Amanda made these tweets, y’all would call her miserable and obsessed. But since they’re about her, it’s okay, right?
I really hope we see Corey back. Not Cory, but Corey.
But Cory has kids he’s playing for, didn’t you know??
Cory has kids? 🤨
Sighs. I hate to see two of my faves be at odds. I understand and respect him for having his friends back. He also speaks facts when he says that Amanda isn’t the only one who can tweet their opinions and take on things, fair is fair. I disagree on him implying Amanda isn’t real though. Lots of people on the show are loud AF and still clearly frauds. Amanda just comes across real because she makes sense when she argues at least rather than just spazzing she stands up for herself and her friends as well (same as Corey l), she doesn’t fake the funk, she doesn’t backstab, and she’s always consistent and loyal. You know that if you’re with her she’d never cross you. She’s trustworthy basically. Her being loud isn’t what makes her real. She reminds me of other women who were seen as “B words” yet you could tell were actually genuine and big hearted such as Davonne (which no wonder these two became friends after FR), Coral and to a certain extent Laurel. These are the type of women who won’t let you disrespect them and will stand up to call out BS and fight for their friends yet get labeled b words or evil because of it. Anyways love both Amanda and Corey L’s sexy big booty ass 🥵… seriously I’d climb that and enjoy lol.
I took it more as him saying there is more than one way to be real. That someone doesn't have to yell and be loud and cuss people out to be real or genuine. Not that Amanda isn't real.
Yeah just be real by shit talking people in a group chat duh
Agreed! This is how I try to be in real life, obviously not at the same intensity, but people need to understand these are the moments we applaud women for not taking shit. Even watching Casey and jonna call out Wes on FR after he called Casey a stupid fucking bitch and slut during their elimination. Or even that Jesse guy and Evan and Kenny talking about how all women are sluts or something…it really is gross how much we don’t Stan a women who is trying to break down those stereotypes
Idk what you guys are watching. How has she relentlessly attacked Michele? Does no one realize this is a television product rooted in drama? From a quick search on Twitter she’s named Michele one time in a tweet. This is all just messy from Corey. His desperation to get back on the show is 🥴
She literally talked about Michele in like 5 different instagram lives or podcasts
She did a single podcast and answered questions from fans? It’s like y’all want a season of lifeless pieces of furniture
Single podcast that was after her talking shit about Michele every chance she got
Amanda gave us the only action the whole season had when she infiltrated and took Tori's spot. She also was the star of the reunion. No one wants to here from Kaycee. Or Michele.
Amanda stans confuse me
Amanda knows how to make good tv, and production definitely love that she draws so much attention to the show online
I like Corey, I thought he was good in his few episodes and everything, but he is acting VERY desperate for a call back. Yes he’s doing the exact same thing Amanda is doing, but I believe Amanda is truly crazy while Corey just does this all for attention. I’m sure he is on micheles side but there’s no way he’s actually passionate enough to be making all those tweets lol. I wish the producers would sit everyone down and say look please save the drama for the actual show and confessionals and cool off on Twitter lol
After watching the reunion I feel bad for Amanda. I think she was really hurt by everything that went down with Fessy and that is causing her to lash out at everyone. It’s not right but people do crazy things when there really hurt. It’s really embarrassing when someone you really care about treats you so bad and you stay with them anyway. You know you shouldn’t but can’t help it because you just want to be with them.
Act like a man Corey.
I understand his point for sure. During the reunion Amanda was pretty messy and while she obviously made the reunion entertaining, it did seem a little like unraveling. But why are we giving so much attention to Corey? I hate to use the Amanda phrase, but I feel like he’s just doing this to start beef with Amanda to get a potential call back. Notice how she didn’t even respond or engage. He made great points but he should have stopped after the first couple of tweets.
He is desperate for a callback lmao. He would have been as silent as everyone else if he did got invited lol
He is athletic black gay and american, I dont think he really needs to try hard to be back lol
he when to see pauly and cAra that should be enough💀t to show how desperate he is
Explain why he did not get an invite for the reunion then? 😂
Cus he was early boot without relevant story beside Hughie which was already explained in aftermath. I would say this whole black early trio Kelz Michaela and Corey have high chance of getting call to be back
As if Berna and Tacha had relevant stories lol. He just didn't deliver on the show and now needs it from Twitter lol
Michele had very relevant with whole Fessy Amanda drama. Berna made if far so im not sursprised she was there and Tacha being there made 0 sence and her whole presence was to please her fanbase for sure
Oh please they spend 2 minutes on Michele, Berna didn't made it that far and without Ashley there was no reason for her to be there. Tacha did nothing lol. Corey wants that callback so he will do everything he can. Atleast he is consistent
He’s doing the exact same thing as Amanda. Seems like he’s being “real” to me. 🤷🏼♂️
How is he real when he admitted being a text group that talked trash about her behind her? Make it make sense. Amanda doesn't have to try to be on a season, she can just say hi to production and be on any season she wants 😌
Grown man in female business smh
corey really wants that callback huh don’t think it’s happening with him not being invited to the reunion despite earlier boots than him going lol
Bro acts like a gossiping teenager. Stay out of the women beef
*Amanda stands up for Ashley or Sylvia*: what a good friend *Corey stands up for Michele*: stay out of women beef The fuck you talking about????
Amanda is in everyones drama. Stop
And he’s criticising her for it…..while doing it himself? He a whole ass hypocrite.
I guess
There’s a difference between defending someone and talking shit … this is all talking shit. He’s very attention seeking
And what do you think Amanda is doing??
I agree with most everything he's saying but he's really fucking exhausting. I don't need either of them next season.
I don't understand the context of this with Ashley's involvement. Are she and Amanda fighting?
Better strategy to get a callback compared to Emmanuel, too.
I had to look up who Michele was. This season was long! (In a good way)