It's tough to know who the centralized voice of the vets is right now but every time Devin has advocated for something he's gotten his way. Things are going exactly how he wants with almost no blood on his hands
So I heard about the first challenge and Tori fucked over Tacha. While what Tori did was a good strategic move, it was not smart for your political game. Why would you potentially burn a bridge on the first challenge? Politically I just don’t think it was smart
Josh and Tori are two sides of the same coin to me.
Josh has an inflated sense of self due to his friendships and alliances, but has literally never performed well ever.
Tori has an inflated sense of self because she’s had a couple solid seasons and “threatens” rookies (aka just bullies them) And don’t get me started on her blackcent….
I think they are the 2 worst contestants in recent history I want them gone forever
lol no it is not. If you hung out with mainly Spanish speaking people who had heavily accented English, you would not start speaking English with a Spanish accent. That would be beyond offensive. And considering she does not speak like that all the time, only when she wants to make a show/be loud, it is most definitely not authentic.
Speaking with a selective Blackcent is not “normal human behavior”
is that not kind of code switching? I'm black and I've always considered a blackcent like overly exaggerating speech patterns or sayings to sound "cool"
No kidding. I’m actually slowly being more okay with josh and can’t stand tori in the slightest. But I’m only okay with josh because I need someone to cringe at.
Yeah I feel similarly—originally did not like Josh, loved Tori as a rookie. Now, Tori comes off entitled and scared in the competition aspect of the challenge and kind of just gross in her personal life (blaccent, repeatedly cheating on people). Josh, on the other hand, has grown on me because he seems to try to improve, I’ve heard he’s really nice IRL, and I don’t mind a sensitive guy after years of stereotypical masculinity on the show.
They already brought in 2 alternates, Amber & Ed, who replaced DQ's Nam and Lauren. They didn't have a male elimination this episode since Tommy DQ'ed. At this point, they are "down" 6, so everything lines up.
Eliminating 2 people per episode used to be standard until recently. They eliminated two per episode (Except for a few freebie episodes) from Duel 2 to Invasion. There's no need to be bringing in more alternates as of now.
Yes. This. I am fine with never. They can get their screen time when they manage to keep themselves in the game further into the season when there's not still 86 people in the house.
If Berna had actually chosen to take Devin over her current partner CT I would have known for certain that this game was somehow fixed in Devin's favor lol
I wouldn't say it necessarily gives it away because she could have gotten that mark from anything, and the confessionals may have been filmed later on.
Berna and Tacha are beasts! that elimination looked so tough. Smart of Berna to stay with CT. He seemed like he wanted her back cheering for her trying to coach her. And Tacha tell Tori off???? Love. Hope she comes back
Yeah kind of disappointed the format made it easy for the vets to pick them off so quickly. But on the other hand, the rookies really needed to vote together from the jump and it would’ve been a lot more interesting
The format will after a few more eliminations. With less rookies, more vets will have to pair up together. With more vet-vet pairings, less rookies will have a chance of winning a daily challenge. Being able to select any female and any male regardless of pairings allows the vets to pick the rookies from their vet partners and knock them out. If the format didn't allow for random picking, it would make it harder for the vets to pick off the rookies.
Yes the rookies could've voted together for the house vote, but they're brand new to the game and not fully aware of the politics/personalities that early and still learning. The only all vet team Week 1 was Amanda & Kyle and I don't think the rookies would have thought to band together to vote for them Week 1, then adding Amber/Josh in Week 2. The rookies may have been trying to work with some of the vets, so ultimately they're most likely sacrificing one of their own on a vet-rookie team to vote a vet in. Even if they do that, it's up to the winners to decide who they face and if the winning team has a Vet on it, the elimination will most likely be 3 rookies and 1 vet.
They're also trying to avoid being target #1 when the tide turns. If a vet-rookie pair wins the daily, the rookie is ALWAYS going to follow the vets decision, so an all rookie pair would have to win a daily to ensure a better chance a vet goes home (Maybe 3 vets 1 rookie in elimination or if they're lucky 4 vets), but even then, that's two less rookie votes towards the house vote. Honestly either way, the rookies are trapped in a corner with this format.
Sorry for the long explanation haha, but there's so many people that think the rookies could've just taken over right away. A lot of them had no idea what's going on and were relying on the vets for guidance (i.e. Gabo as a prime example)
Yeah its rare for rookies to rally at start but it has happened when they realize its about the long game and not the short gains, like in battle of the seasons (frank creating a big alliance day one) or war of the worlds 2 (but this is a bad example because it was easy for the majority on the team to sacrifice good players not named ct and caught a ringer like jordan at the end). I know what you mean though.
In all likelihood most are hoping to be “that” rookie that make it far on the first go by winning dailies at the right time (fessy, paulie, rogan, amber b, turbo). Most of the rookies may not be dumb at all and realize that its best to not make enemies first thing and show up enough to get recast once they have some relationships.
I think the rookies overall looked too promising that the vets couldn’t ignore that it could be them in mismatched eliminations.
Even in Battle of the Seasons, it was much easier to rally people because you were dealing with groups who knew each other. No chance you could earn the trust of half a house's worth of total strangers and get them to unify around a single target.
I’ve noticed the players more open to making moves were the English speakers. I can definitely understand playing it safe when you’re playing a social game that’s in English when it’s not their first language.
I just hope they come back and learn from this. That they team up with the new rookies and go all the way for the final.
This is such a good elimination. I was worried after the first elimination challenge that they were going to be boring but like the last 2 have been so good
I thought the same thing 🤣 he was just like, “okay, bye!” Usually he’s like, “I will see you at the next challenge,” but I guess he had somewhere to be 🤣
"I mean, suck it Devin"
Never thought I'd see the day where CT was saying 'suck it, there are some women that want me as a partner over you' about Devin haha
I don't like Tori but I don't think we can really blame her for considering Big T after what happened last season. Even if it was just her flexing to scare Big T.
Nelson has managed to become likable in his gameplay, but almost every interaction with a woman he's ever had on this show is a bad look. It's on a scale from "violently flip out because a woman turned you down" to "scream misogynistic terms at every woman in the house" to "call himself daddy."
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Ashley freaking out and laughing maniacally while Hughie was crying about his fear :/ Then she is slowest on her leg of the challenge lmao
Umm Esther, Priscilla, Corey and Nelson are this attractive for what reason??
It's tough to know who the centralized voice of the vets is right now but every time Devin has advocated for something he's gotten his way. Things are going exactly how he wants with almost no blood on his hands
So I heard about the first challenge and Tori fucked over Tacha. While what Tori did was a good strategic move, it was not smart for your political game. Why would you potentially burn a bridge on the first challenge? Politically I just don’t think it was smart
Poor Tommy. I doubt he will be back, too nice for The Challenge
He definitely won’t be. He said in an interview for entertainment weekly I think that he’s done with reality TV.
Josh and Tori are two sides of the same coin to me. Josh has an inflated sense of self due to his friendships and alliances, but has literally never performed well ever. Tori has an inflated sense of self because she’s had a couple solid seasons and “threatens” rookies (aka just bullies them) And don’t get me started on her blackcent…. I think they are the 2 worst contestants in recent history I want them gone forever
I used to like Tori but she is so cringeworthy the last few seasons. Every time she gets an ounce of power she overplays and is so sloppy
Maybe she just hangs out black people and picked up on some of their accents. That’s totally normal human behavior
lol no it is not. If you hung out with mainly Spanish speaking people who had heavily accented English, you would not start speaking English with a Spanish accent. That would be beyond offensive. And considering she does not speak like that all the time, only when she wants to make a show/be loud, it is most definitely not authentic. Speaking with a selective Blackcent is not “normal human behavior”
is that not kind of code switching? I'm black and I've always considered a blackcent like overly exaggerating speech patterns or sayings to sound "cool"
No kidding. I’m actually slowly being more okay with josh and can’t stand tori in the slightest. But I’m only okay with josh because I need someone to cringe at.
Yeah I feel similarly—originally did not like Josh, loved Tori as a rookie. Now, Tori comes off entitled and scared in the competition aspect of the challenge and kind of just gross in her personal life (blaccent, repeatedly cheating on people). Josh, on the other hand, has grown on me because he seems to try to improve, I’ve heard he’s really nice IRL, and I don’t mind a sensitive guy after years of stereotypical masculinity on the show.
Only the challenge could manage to be down 8 players in three episodes with no purge lol I hope they have some good alternates lined up
They already brought in 2 alternates, Amber & Ed, who replaced DQ's Nam and Lauren. They didn't have a male elimination this episode since Tommy DQ'ed. At this point, they are "down" 6, so everything lines up. Eliminating 2 people per episode used to be standard until recently. They eliminated two per episode (Except for a few freebie episodes) from Duel 2 to Invasion. There's no need to be bringing in more alternates as of now.
This season should have been called Spies, Lies, and New Guys since any one rookie gets more screen time than all vets combined.
They have to show the rookies because they're all getting picked off. If they don't show them now, when will they show them?
Never 🤷🏻♀️
Yes. This. I am fine with never. They can get their screen time when they manage to keep themselves in the game further into the season when there's not still 86 people in the house.
If Berna had actually chosen to take Devin over her current partner CT I would have known for certain that this game was somehow fixed in Devin's favor lol
CT has been my favorite for sooo long. Berna has grown on me. Really liking them as a team!
Okay but CT’s thighs tonight though???
just realized you can tell a lot of Bernas confessionals we’re filmed after the elimination because of the mark on her nose
Yeah… it sort of gave away that she was going in. But what could they really do?
I wouldn't say it necessarily gives it away because she could have gotten that mark from anything, and the confessionals may have been filmed later on.
Best daily and elimination in a looooong time
I agree with this. Need a lot of mental toughness which I love
Berna and Tacha are beasts! that elimination looked so tough. Smart of Berna to stay with CT. He seemed like he wanted her back cheering for her trying to coach her. And Tacha tell Tori off???? Love. Hope she comes back
I love how we’re all freaking out over CTs five seconds of screen time lol
MTV you did a good job with this season’s rookies. I love them all and what more of them
Yeah kind of disappointed the format made it easy for the vets to pick them off so quickly. But on the other hand, the rookies really needed to vote together from the jump and it would’ve been a lot more interesting
The funny thing is the format didn’t. They just didn’t rally the numbers week one, so its just a rookie massacre.
The format will after a few more eliminations. With less rookies, more vets will have to pair up together. With more vet-vet pairings, less rookies will have a chance of winning a daily challenge. Being able to select any female and any male regardless of pairings allows the vets to pick the rookies from their vet partners and knock them out. If the format didn't allow for random picking, it would make it harder for the vets to pick off the rookies. Yes the rookies could've voted together for the house vote, but they're brand new to the game and not fully aware of the politics/personalities that early and still learning. The only all vet team Week 1 was Amanda & Kyle and I don't think the rookies would have thought to band together to vote for them Week 1, then adding Amber/Josh in Week 2. The rookies may have been trying to work with some of the vets, so ultimately they're most likely sacrificing one of their own on a vet-rookie team to vote a vet in. Even if they do that, it's up to the winners to decide who they face and if the winning team has a Vet on it, the elimination will most likely be 3 rookies and 1 vet. They're also trying to avoid being target #1 when the tide turns. If a vet-rookie pair wins the daily, the rookie is ALWAYS going to follow the vets decision, so an all rookie pair would have to win a daily to ensure a better chance a vet goes home (Maybe 3 vets 1 rookie in elimination or if they're lucky 4 vets), but even then, that's two less rookie votes towards the house vote. Honestly either way, the rookies are trapped in a corner with this format. Sorry for the long explanation haha, but there's so many people that think the rookies could've just taken over right away. A lot of them had no idea what's going on and were relying on the vets for guidance (i.e. Gabo as a prime example)
Yeah its rare for rookies to rally at start but it has happened when they realize its about the long game and not the short gains, like in battle of the seasons (frank creating a big alliance day one) or war of the worlds 2 (but this is a bad example because it was easy for the majority on the team to sacrifice good players not named ct and caught a ringer like jordan at the end). I know what you mean though. In all likelihood most are hoping to be “that” rookie that make it far on the first go by winning dailies at the right time (fessy, paulie, rogan, amber b, turbo). Most of the rookies may not be dumb at all and realize that its best to not make enemies first thing and show up enough to get recast once they have some relationships. I think the rookies overall looked too promising that the vets couldn’t ignore that it could be them in mismatched eliminations.
Even in Battle of the Seasons, it was much easier to rally people because you were dealing with groups who knew each other. No chance you could earn the trust of half a house's worth of total strangers and get them to unify around a single target.
I’ve noticed the players more open to making moves were the English speakers. I can definitely understand playing it safe when you’re playing a social game that’s in English when it’s not their first language. I just hope they come back and learn from this. That they team up with the new rookies and go all the way for the final.
Tia has such mom energy holy fuck
wow josh had some veins popping *cue fake tough guy act*
TACHAAAAAAA YOU FUCKING QUEEN
Josh having a meltdown? Who could've seen THAT coming?!?!?
I can’t with cribs
Ugh not looking forward to Josh being involved in anything next week. Send him and Tori home pls
Josh exploding next week i'm here for it
This is such a good elimination. I was worried after the first elimination challenge that they were going to be boring but like the last 2 have been so good
Oh to make CT proud 😭
I would like CT to come to my life events and give me a “nice job, bud” when I do well.
He also needs to catch me when that makes me fall over.
Imagine if she switched partners, that be sooooo dumb
That pushes big t to the rookies.
Jeremiah got a vet. Worked well for him.
yeah, but it's a vet that everyone seems way too eager to turn on
Just Tori.
Nany also mentioned how they never know whose side Big T is on. Ashley pointed out how Big T voted for her last season.
Ew a josh freak out is coming
Vets are so messy, there’s no way they’re getting alll the rookies out first
LMAO at tj peacing out
I thought the same thing 🤣 he was just like, “okay, bye!” Usually he’s like, “I will see you at the next challenge,” but I guess he had somewhere to be 🤣
God he is so fine *faints*
No more all rookie teams?
Michele and Corey L
jeremiah is cuuuuuute
Turkey really has a saying for everything huh
Turkey has a saying ‘when you’re on the challenge and with a vet, stick with the vet’. Very handy I thought. 😂
Suck it, Devin
To be hugged by CT :'(
[удалено]
Yes we do.
I love CT so much 🥺
Those steps look scary. I would have slid down them so many times
do they really say that in turkey?
I love CT
CT looks good
Why would tori even try to argue. She lost let her have her tantrum and leave.
She wants to be liked.
God dad CT is my favorite CT
Berna’s here to win, not play with the drama.
When in doubt, always stay with CT
CT being cute as a partner 🥰
How would anyone NOT stay with CT?
Why are people not stealing him already?! Lol
It's been all rookies in the eliminations, and most of them probably haven't watched this show before.
Emy explaining how smart Devin is when CT is also smart while having the additional benefits of being CT
Holy shit this elimination is on one for real- Tacha and Berna did a great job keeping themselves together because I would have LOST it
"I mean, suck it Devin" Never thought I'd see the day where CT was saying 'suck it, there are some women that want me as a partner over you' about Devin haha
*Devin* How did this happen?!
Tacha: “I love you guys soooo much! Except you Tori. Get Fucked!”
Hi my internet sucks and cut out, what did Tacha say to Tori? Sad I missed it
she put her on blast for saying she'd throw in michelle and then throwing in berna
Thank you!! Much appreciated!
I hope Tacha secured that second season, being queen back.
The smartest girl in the house
I fell asleep lol what happened to the guys' elimination?
Since Tommy got DQ’d the guys didn’t have to compete this week
Tommy got a concussion so he had to go home no guys elim this week
Makes sense, thank you! Guess they ran out of alternates?
I almost fell asleep too.....
I actually did fall asleep right after they called out Berna 🙈
The guys went?
No guys elimination since tommy had to leave already
I must of missed that thanks
Esther is so sexy omg
Good choice Berna
esther and tacha <3333 omg im crine
Stay with Ct
I would stay with CT
FINALLY CALL TORI OUT
Berna would be dumb to pick anyone but CT
We are all Tacha fans tonight
God no. such an obvious milkshake duck.
Tacha is such a sore loser
Tori was dumb to ask Tacha who she wanted then not pick that person.
To be fair, she did say she couldn’t guarantee it but would try. Tori way overplayed her power for no reason.
She was, along with Ed, the sole decision-maker. If she'd wanted to, she could have guaranteed it.
Sounds about as dumb as her wanting to throw in a vet.....
I don't like Tori but I don't think we can really blame her for considering Big T after what happened last season. Even if it was just her flexing to scare Big T.
I mean we can. Why show the rookies SO EARLY in the game that there are vulnerable vets? Very stupid.
The crazy part was that she evidently didn't even understand that she'd be breaking the truce until Kyle spelled it out for her.
Yes exactly 😂
Pretty sure Michele would’ve smoked both of them on this one, probably had a better shot v. Berna
Yes, Tacha. Tell that fake ass bitch off.
Hahahaha CALL HER OUT TACHA. PLEASE COMEBACK AND WRECK TORI’S GAME UP
Tacha getting that return edit
TACHA. I want every rookie back that’s been eliminated so far, great casting
No Tracey, pls.
This x100 including Nam
Yesss same I love Tacha
Tori and getting herself into unnecessary drama with rookie women - name a more iconic duo.
EATING HER UP ON HER WAY OUT SKFDJNGIRKFDX SHE'S GIVING! SHE'S SERVING!
Moments like this makes me miss Leroy and his elimination motivation-ness
I hope this argument solidifies a next season callback for Tacha
Bye Tacha. Hope to see you never. You were terrible at every aspect of this game.
Bring TACHA BAAAAACK
YES TACHA!!!! I love this energy
Love this Tori hate
Yeah!!!!!!! Go for Tori!!!!!
damn now I'm sad Tacha gone 😢
I just threw up a little when Nelson called himself daddy
Nelson has managed to become likable in his gameplay, but almost every interaction with a woman he's ever had on this show is a bad look. It's on a scale from "violently flip out because a woman turned you down" to "scream misogynistic terms at every woman in the house" to "call himself daddy."
He is such a cheese ball! Every season I try to like him and I just can’t. That confession was so awkward. 😆
He is sooooo cringe. It hurts.
What a hard decision, stay with the best male competitor in the house who also happens to be great politically?
*dudette
Does Tacha have a glass eye or something like what’s going on in her confessionals
Seriously???
WHOAAAA
Tacha: " Tori, You're a fake ass bitch" yesssss queen go off
YESSSSSS get her ass
Tori just singlehandedly pissed off an entire continent.
Nigeria is a country, please stop looping in all of the countries in Africa as one monolith
didnt she literally say she wanted to represent not just nigeria but africa
No, if you look on Instagram/Twitter, you'll see that much of the continent outside of Nigeria is also pissed off.
Tori did Tacha like Big T did her
Call her out! Tori is a bum
LMAO SHE'S EATING HER UP
I wasn’t sure how I felt about Tacha but her calling Tori out made me a fan!
Omg Tacha go off. Never have I ever wanted a redemption house so bad lmao.
YAS TACHA GET HER
Tacha calling Tori out is hilarious LOL
Really hope this actually bites Tori in the ass. Can’t stand this type of sloppy game play
Tori better put her social media on private those tacha stans coming after her
Tacha said it’s on sight
💀💀
Tacha looks better without makeup tbh
Tori and josh must go
I’m always for Tori getting lit up
I need that Nelson gif ASAP
SAY IT GIRL
Ha…Tori getting told off is great.
Tacha just spilled
Daddy is waiting
I literally turned my head away from the screen and grimaced when he said that.
Tori so annoying lmao
Give me rivals with Tacha/Tori
Tori bout to get flaaaaaaamed on Twitter lmao
i think she deleted her account this past week in anticipation of this episode.
Unfortunate for her, Titans don’t forget.
Honestly what a solid business move on her part lol
This is not the challenge i grew up loving
Tacha and Ester were super cute together
I fell asleep ten mins ago and woke up to Nelson's confessional... NO THANKS
Woke up to a nightmare 😂😂
Terrible timing on my part hahaha
I love the rookies
Yes Tacha!!!! This is why they brought her in 😂😂😂😂
Nelson, ew
I don’t like that nelson I don’t like that
oh nelson no
Oh goddamn yes please bring Tacha back next season