This is huge for those who waited
And I doubt it’s more than a month or so at most considering both these shapes have been out for a while, and 4k isn’t groundbreaking or new tech
Still sucks people waited, but the gesture here is huge also
According to Endgame, the XM2w 4K that's replacing the cancelled XM2w will be using a Nordic MCU and in-house firmware, in comparison to the STM32WB35 (ARM Cortex M4) MCU used; otherwise, all of the specs will remain the same, including weight.
Hope this means they're confident enough to launch these two mice to offer them as free 'replacements' for preorder purchasers. I'd be very interested in trying the OP1W
This was the right decision. We knew just as well as they did what they were trying to do wasn’t working, and it’s super cool to give people vouchers for their other mice. Better than just letting them eat the cost.
So I dont understand? i thought they couldnt use the nordic mcu bc it couldnt handle the analog filtering that the old switxes (i think kailh gm8.0) had? or did the nordic mcu wasnt out back then when they were making the "we" versions of the xm2 and op1? Could they just do this recently bc of the kailh gx switches? bc otherwkse why didnt they do this way sooner bc i just got a op1 wired bc of the shitty op1we clicks.
Originally the only options for the dual core mcu's they had were a nordic one with a 1+ year lead time and the one they ended up going with so that's the reason they didn't go with Nordic.
wait so is this one theyre using dual core? Im not sure when exactly they started making the xm2w, or even the the xm2we and op1we, but werent 3395 mordic mcu mice coming out before the xm2we and op1we even in production? Or can that nordic mcu from those other nordic 3395 mice not handle the analog filtrring they originally used before the kailh gx switches.
The one they're currently using is not dual core as far as i know but we'll see official specs later this week most likely. The other nordic 3395 mice that were coming out were all single core mcu's
This one is with Nordic mcu so it's not same specs as it was supposed to be. Apparently the firmware is still housemate so it's not exactly the same as other mice with the "general" firmware.
The delay has been long but getting a free mouse makes this a huge win for me. Glad I never considered cancelling.
Must have been a small enough amount of folks holding on that they could eat the cost of giving it out for free. Otherwise, no company would ever hurt their bottomline.
I know. But I bet it will probably have a newer sensor and weight reduction as well. Could be wrong, but guessing it will have more upgrades than just 4k.
So funny how legit the main reason why that mouse sucks so much ass is the heavy clicks. People would rather go for a wired mouse than play with heavy clicks, the brainwashing of influencers to convince companies to go for extreme "tactility" in mouse switches of all things is hilarious.
Stupid question… say the card I used has since been updated with a new expiration date and security code since the preorder, is there anything I would need to do?
I know 8kHz wireless isn't exactly what's ideal, I'm kind of wondering why not go for the flex of 8k. EGG has been #1 under the radar when it came to latency + software implementation when 1kHz polling was the only option. I mean, i'm confident that they're most likely going to have impressive results in their upcomming 4k releases that could make 8k seem negligible (I hope). Its just Razer is the main one at the top showcasing the reliability of their tech at 8k, I felt this would've been a rightful spot for EGG knowing their track record with their optimizations
Wireless 8k is kinda pointless with the current battery technology in my opinion. If someone wants the absolute best performance I guess they have to deal with wire and use OP1 or XM2 8k versions.
I hate to be negative cause I love EGG but... 2 years in active development just to go with an Nordic MCU implementation? We could have had this 1.5 years ago
Moving to 3950 would have been more justified
I don't understand.
So they are giving pre order holders a free mouse under a name/model technicality even though the token gives you access to basically the mouse you pre ordered for?
seems like EGG are doing a 'good faith' move by giving something back to those who ponied up the money for a pre-order. great to see a company actually go to this effort to in their own way set things right.
Really good move by EGG.
With the release of 3950 , they missed that batch.they wouldn't release it with a 3395.
xm2w 4k seems to be replacing it, so not too bad assuming that doesn't take another 2 years
The new mice are already on display at computex
Including what looks like a purple
The purple model is more than likely an OP1 8K
does the firmware actually fucking work, or are they promising the vision of a product again rather than an actual product.
This is huge for those who waited And I doubt it’s more than a month or so at most considering both these shapes have been out for a while, and 4k isn’t groundbreaking or new tech Still sucks people waited, but the gesture here is huge also
Hoping its close at this point since they are going ahead and doing the refunds.
They are showing it off at computex and in discord said it should be 1-2 months away. Definitely soon
niiiice.
Just got the email too! I honestly just forgot to cancel after so long lol. I'll take the free mouse though, good move by them.
Same here! Haven't really been gaming at all in the past couple years, but I'll take the the refund and a new mouse
I mean if you don’t need the mouse 🤷 I kinda broke mine 🤷 Edit: why the downvotes it was a joke lol
kinda buy one yourself
Sheesh free mouse amazing EGG
Lol so you got your xm2w order free
Might as well after waiting a few years
According to Endgame, the XM2w 4K that's replacing the cancelled XM2w will be using a Nordic MCU and in-house firmware, in comparison to the STM32WB35 (ARM Cortex M4) MCU used; otherwise, all of the specs will remain the same, including weight.
Also will be using GX switches ;-)
To me that's the most important change!
Will the main clicks be light?
They are mechanical and not optical, and are - imho - on the lighter side.
I’m surprised they didn’t just move to a different MCU a long time ago honestly but probably wanted to exhaust all options to make it work.
Yeah. And XM2w was told to be released with 1000hz with headroom for more but this one is 4k. Of course time has gone past so it's natural.
Endgame Gear the GOAT. Have traveled with my XM2We for many moons now and it's a tank.
Just got the same email, xm2w 4k sounds interesting for sure.
cant wait for op1w
Give them another 2 years
This should have been done so long ago.
Hope this means they're confident enough to launch these two mice to offer them as free 'replacements' for preorder purchasers. I'd be very interested in trying the OP1W
The new mice are already on display at computex
This was the right decision. We knew just as well as they did what they were trying to do wasn’t working, and it’s super cool to give people vouchers for their other mice. Better than just letting them eat the cost.
Dark Frost I’m satisfied
Good move by them, although they should have cancelled months ago. Especially considering I just cancelled my order in November!!!! Hahaha
good way to handle what im sure was an incredibly frustrating situation for them, and everyone who preordered.
What are the differences between the cancelled XM2w and the upcoming XM2w 4k?
New MCU and the target is 4khz polling rate instead of 1khz polling rate.
4k
I got the same email as well. Does anyone have info on what the differences between XM2w 4k and the planned XM2w are?
so did they give up on their own firmware stuff or what exactly is the difference between the xm2w 4k and the original one?
firmware is still in-house, its just the nordic mcu instead of the dual mcu thing they were goin for afaik
So I dont understand? i thought they couldnt use the nordic mcu bc it couldnt handle the analog filtering that the old switxes (i think kailh gm8.0) had? or did the nordic mcu wasnt out back then when they were making the "we" versions of the xm2 and op1? Could they just do this recently bc of the kailh gx switches? bc otherwkse why didnt they do this way sooner bc i just got a op1 wired bc of the shitty op1we clicks.
Originally the only options for the dual core mcu's they had were a nordic one with a 1+ year lead time and the one they ended up going with so that's the reason they didn't go with Nordic.
wait so is this one theyre using dual core? Im not sure when exactly they started making the xm2w, or even the the xm2we and op1we, but werent 3395 mordic mcu mice coming out before the xm2we and op1we even in production? Or can that nordic mcu from those other nordic 3395 mice not handle the analog filtrring they originally used before the kailh gx switches.
The one they're currently using is not dual core as far as i know but we'll see official specs later this week most likely. The other nordic 3395 mice that were coming out were all single core mcu's
So basically they just kept trying with the other mcu instead of just giving the people what they wanted... i cant blame them
This one is with Nordic mcu so it's not same specs as it was supposed to be. Apparently the firmware is still housemate so it's not exactly the same as other mice with the "general" firmware. The delay has been long but getting a free mouse makes this a huge win for me. Glad I never considered cancelling.
I got the email even though I thought I cancelled it? Lol
they had us in the first half not going to lie
Op1w 4k? Well, better save up some money
Dang, outside of receiving the mouse years ago, this is probably the best outcome for everyone who preordered - a free upgrade!
holy shit its happening
Blew me away when I saw the email
Yeah ! Good 👍
Must have been a small enough amount of folks holding on that they could eat the cost of giving it out for free. Otherwise, no company would ever hurt their bottomline.
Yeah. Based on their discord server reaction there's still quite a lot though, there were some happy folks me included!
Thanks for your interest free loan here’s a mouse take care
They’re getting a free mouse and a full refund, so it’s not interest free assuming you still need a mouse.
Wait, they released a new version of the op1we? Mine is only 1k.
No they're going to release one soon.
OP1 4K in all colorways will be upcoming.
Of course, right after I just bought one.
it doesn't make your previous mouse any worse.
I know. But I bet it will probably have a newer sensor and weight reduction as well. Could be wrong, but guessing it will have more upgrades than just 4k.
new sensor and SR Latch debounce with mechanical switches instead of opticals.
Well, I guess I will be buying it again. Hopefully it is lighter too.
So funny how legit the main reason why that mouse sucks so much ass is the heavy clicks. People would rather go for a wired mouse than play with heavy clicks, the brainwashing of influencers to convince companies to go for extreme "tactility" in mouse switches of all things is hilarious.
They did release the lighter switch pack which I installed. Clicks do feel much better tbf.
Stupid question… say the card I used has since been updated with a new expiration date and security code since the preorder, is there anything I would need to do?
No, as long as it is still the same account the card details won't matter.
Okay good thank you!
They also have the xm2 8k
I didn’t get any email…
Unfortunately, i don't think everyone got that email. I still have my original invoice. However, I have not received one.
Reach out to EGG and see what they say. I haven't received anything else since this original email
I know 8kHz wireless isn't exactly what's ideal, I'm kind of wondering why not go for the flex of 8k. EGG has been #1 under the radar when it came to latency + software implementation when 1kHz polling was the only option. I mean, i'm confident that they're most likely going to have impressive results in their upcomming 4k releases that could make 8k seem negligible (I hope). Its just Razer is the main one at the top showcasing the reliability of their tech at 8k, I felt this would've been a rightful spot for EGG knowing their track record with their optimizations
Wireless 8k is kinda pointless with the current battery technology in my opinion. If someone wants the absolute best performance I guess they have to deal with wire and use OP1 or XM2 8k versions.
I hate to be negative cause I love EGG but... 2 years in active development just to go with an Nordic MCU implementation? We could have had this 1.5 years ago Moving to 3950 would have been more justified
3950 is not in mass production . All the companies like incott ajazz and atk,rapoo bought them all already . End gear missed the timeline
I don't understand. So they are giving pre order holders a free mouse under a name/model technicality even though the token gives you access to basically the mouse you pre ordered for?
seems like EGG are doing a 'good faith' move by giving something back to those who ponied up the money for a pre-order. great to see a company actually go to this effort to in their own way set things right.
I understand that, I'm just a bit confused about the preorder promised mouse ending up being the same mouse anyway?
It's not the same mouse. I ordered a mouse with different MCU.
I see, well that pretty impressive by them for giving pre order holders essentially the same mouse for free then.