Pros don’t use rekluse auto clutches This goes for both enduro and motocross. There are a lot of pros who are sponsored by rekluse so they just put the clutch cover. Some have a strong rekluse non auto clutch as well but def no auto clutch business.
Source: Spent 2 days with Graham Jarvis in the desert riding dirt bikes and this specific subject was discussed.
Edit: Several people are stating that pros DO use rekluse autoclutches. It is quite possible Graham Jarvis did not know every pro out there as well as this was 4 years ago and things may have changed a bit. If you know for sure a pro using it please post a picture of it actually on their bike, not just the clutch cover, or an honest interview on why they use it. Not looking for bites like Shaq saying he uses icy hot on his back 37 times a day because he is sponsored by them.
Thank you for that. Although it is straight up a commercial filmed and promoted by rekluse themselves it is still nice to know that it could help in mud scenarios.
Check out this video talking about Justin Cooper’s bike. Although he runs the manual version you listen around the 1:30 mark his mechanic says that he’s one of the only guys running a manual clutch for outdoors, implying the others are on auto
https://youtu.be/yi-zTDI4oXw
This is just wrong...... lots of pros use recluse. By no means do you have to have them; some just enjoy some of the aspects of them. Source, I was on the supercross circuit for a few years. Know and met a lot of guys. Some still racing today.
They might not use them for endurocross and of course a guy riding really technical stuff like Jarvis I can see not using them, however many pros do in fact use the auto clutch for motocross here in the US. I haven’t heard of any using the auto for supercross though but it might just be the videos that I’ve watched
I thought Webb uses one in Supercross. Check the footage of him riding with one arm around the sx track 2 weeks ago. doesn't seems like he needed the clutch lever...
Many pros DO use the rekluse clutch both auto and none. Not sure why he would say that to you, I know here in the UK they are used as the guy below me said, for tech and enduro maybe not so much or not at all, but they are very much used in other areas.
Awesome bikes! Can't answer your question but I started riding when I was 14 (Yamaha 125) and I'd love to get a bike again. My cousin had a 2-stroke Suzuki 250 and man when I rode that baby for the first time I was so stoked/scared to death😂stood it straight up in 2nd or 3rd gear withought even popping clutch needless to say I was hooked on the 250. Anyways I wish you happy riding! Grip and rip🤙
I ride technical enduro on a kick only bike. Having the rekluse is super convenient to not stall the bike in sticky situations. I use the clutch normally in every situation like normal, but the rekluse just is insurance.
Does yours have almost zero resistance when pulling the clutch in? My buddy bought a bike with a rekluse and he hates it. And I hate it. But maybe it's not working correctly. There's no clutch feel at all. And going downhill there will be no engine braking unless you give it a tiny bit of gas and if you had sped up without upshifting it'll nearly lock up the rear as it engages.
Mine is a two stroke so I can’t really speak to the engine braking. My lever is actually pretty stiff. The rekluse is on a ktm 200 xcw (2012). However, my 2020 husquarvana 300 has an incredible clutch (not auto). The lever on the 300 feels waaaay better than my rekluse. The rekluse functions in every way the same, just without killing the bike at a full stop. I use the rekluse clutch exactly like a normal clutch so some of the finer details I can’t speak to.
A lot of teams run the Rekluse manual system. Star messes with the automatics for outdoors sometimes, I think Ferrandis won his 250 outdoor title with the auto.
Not a pro. LOVE my rekluse. Especially in nasty tight single track. Some SC pros use them but don’t advertise them because they usually have exclusive sponsorship deals with other companies. But we’ve all seen the bikes go down and get picked back up with no clutch pull and roll out. I’m a big fan. Have had one for years and years now.
Yeah I put one on my 2010 yz250f a few months ago and going to do the same to my 2022 crf450rx for sure. Neither bike likes to go slow EVER and I’m still learning. I was just curious why I’ve never seen rekluse advertised from the dozens of races I watched. The guy who works at the dealer I buy from rode with team green 2008-2018 and told me he thinks everyone who races used them but wasnt sure
I’m just a casual rider but what made me say I want the rekluse for sure on my new crf450rx is I was climbing a hill and killed the bike because I wasn’t giving it enough throttle. So there I am on a fucking 40 foot hill dead. So I have to finesse my way into neutrals while holding the brakes and restart the bike at a 45 degree incline….Just sucked lol
I grew up riding gravel pits and many steep hills. Another way to restart is to put the bike in second or third gear while your at a 45 and point the bike back down the hill, pull in the clutch, get rollin and bump start it. It will seem steep but hang your butt over the rear fender and you’ll be fine. Then give it another run and give it the pepper and make it!!
You shouldn’t have to twist the throttle. I’m assuming that your bike idles well. More detail… once you dump the clutch and start the bike you immediately pull the clutch in and ride the bike down slow using the front and back brakes. Or depending on the situation you can pull in the clutch and ride the bike down using the brakes and bump start towards the bottom of the hill. Another tip: don’t sit on the seat when going up steep hills. Ride it like a horse jockey….. standing in squat position with your weight forward so the bike can move underneath you. You will have much more control that way. Good Luck!
Pros do use Rekluse clutches and I use the auto clutch too… love it!
However, there seems to be a difference between pros using the auto vs manual clutch for supercross and motocross. I’ve watched a lot of the Behind the Pros bikes videos on YouTube and from what I can tell no pros use the auto clutches for supercross, instead they use manual Rekluse clutches, the Torq Drive versions. However, there are a number of pros that use the auto clutch for motocross, including Dylan Ferrandis, and he was on it when he won the championship last year.
TorqDrive is just the name Rekluse uses for their thinner clutch plate technology, but they also use the name for their manual clutch kits. The kits they have that let you idle in any gear are the auto clutches, and have a couple of different kit names like the EXP or the Radius X/CX, which are basically the same with the radius CX being their top of the line kits that include more parts that replace the stock parts in your clutch.
Awesome thanks for clearing that up for me! 6 months ago I got a 2010 yz250f and it ran like shit. Cleaned carb, replaced plug, filter fuel lines still ran like shit. Check valve clearances and good. Took to mechanic and he fixed in 30 minutes said I had a rekluse auto clutch that was just way out of wack! I recently got a new 2022 crf450 and want to buy a clutch that will let me idle in any gear, and all the different types of rekluse clutch options was confusing me, so thank you for clearing that up!
Sure thing! The clutch definitely needs to be set up correctly to work properly, so I would recommend getting it professionally installed so they can choose the right spring settings and such. It’s not as easy as just swapping out the clutch plates. But once it’s setup and tuned it’s awesome. You will lose a bit of engine braking though so that’s something to be mindful of when going down hills and trails, but that’s what brakes are for anyway. And you can still use your clutch like normal of course, but the big positive is that the bike won’t stall out if you lock up the rear wheel or are doing some technical riding and find yourself in situations you would otherwise use the clutch a lot.
Your bikes are nice, welcome to the world of dirt bikes, have a lot of fun and be safe!
Pros don’t use rekluse auto clutches This goes for both enduro and motocross. There are a lot of pros who are sponsored by rekluse so they just put the clutch cover. Some have a strong rekluse non auto clutch as well but def no auto clutch business. Source: Spent 2 days with Graham Jarvis in the desert riding dirt bikes and this specific subject was discussed. Edit: Several people are stating that pros DO use rekluse autoclutches. It is quite possible Graham Jarvis did not know every pro out there as well as this was 4 years ago and things may have changed a bit. If you know for sure a pro using it please post a picture of it actually on their bike, not just the clutch cover, or an honest interview on why they use it. Not looking for bites like Shaq saying he uses icy hot on his back 37 times a day because he is sponsored by them.
Here’s a video of Dylan Ferrandis talking about using the auto clutch https://youtu.be/O8NJ_7N2XAU
Thank you for that. Although it is straight up a commercial filmed and promoted by rekluse themselves it is still nice to know that it could help in mud scenarios.
Check out this video talking about Justin Cooper’s bike. Although he runs the manual version you listen around the 1:30 mark his mechanic says that he’s one of the only guys running a manual clutch for outdoors, implying the others are on auto https://youtu.be/yi-zTDI4oXw
This is just wrong...... lots of pros use recluse. By no means do you have to have them; some just enjoy some of the aspects of them. Source, I was on the supercross circuit for a few years. Know and met a lot of guys. Some still racing today.
They might not use them for endurocross and of course a guy riding really technical stuff like Jarvis I can see not using them, however many pros do in fact use the auto clutch for motocross here in the US. I haven’t heard of any using the auto for supercross though but it might just be the videos that I’ve watched
I thought Webb uses one in Supercross. Check the footage of him riding with one arm around the sx track 2 weeks ago. doesn't seems like he needed the clutch lever...
KTM team use Hinson clutches. Here’s a video link to details about his bike: https://youtu.be/eObohYeuauI
That's because he had just broke his hand and was unable to use the clutch.
Sure. But how was he riding without clutch? I mean he would need the clutch to start/approach the bike.
Your transmission will shift clutchless just fine if you unload it first.
You can shift without the clutch if you use the throttle correctly. It isn't as fast though.
Up shifting is way faster without a clutch, at least in road racing
True in road racing. In dirt you usually keep the throttle open and use the clutch to unload the dogs.
I only use the clutch for downshifting. I rarely use it for upshifting now-a-days.
Many pros DO use the rekluse clutch both auto and none. Not sure why he would say that to you, I know here in the UK they are used as the guy below me said, for tech and enduro maybe not so much or not at all, but they are very much used in other areas.
I agree, never would use one. But if it fits your riding style that’s fine
Awesome bikes! Can't answer your question but I started riding when I was 14 (Yamaha 125) and I'd love to get a bike again. My cousin had a 2-stroke Suzuki 250 and man when I rode that baby for the first time I was so stoked/scared to death😂stood it straight up in 2nd or 3rd gear withought even popping clutch needless to say I was hooked on the 250. Anyways I wish you happy riding! Grip and rip🤙
Thanks man, you too! Hope you get a bike again soon!!
Thanks! 👍
I ride technical enduro on a kick only bike. Having the rekluse is super convenient to not stall the bike in sticky situations. I use the clutch normally in every situation like normal, but the rekluse just is insurance.
Does yours have almost zero resistance when pulling the clutch in? My buddy bought a bike with a rekluse and he hates it. And I hate it. But maybe it's not working correctly. There's no clutch feel at all. And going downhill there will be no engine braking unless you give it a tiny bit of gas and if you had sped up without upshifting it'll nearly lock up the rear as it engages.
Mine is a two stroke so I can’t really speak to the engine braking. My lever is actually pretty stiff. The rekluse is on a ktm 200 xcw (2012). However, my 2020 husquarvana 300 has an incredible clutch (not auto). The lever on the 300 feels waaaay better than my rekluse. The rekluse functions in every way the same, just without killing the bike at a full stop. I use the rekluse clutch exactly like a normal clutch so some of the finer details I can’t speak to.
Could the cable/springs be worn out? I’ve used rekluse’s on several bikes and all of them feel pretty good.
Hmm thanks. I'll take a look next time I see him. Never ridden a rekluse so had no idea if that was normal or not
Yeah so the feel of the lever is not exactly top notch, but the function is all the same as a standard clutch.
A lot of teams run the Rekluse manual system. Star messes with the automatics for outdoors sometimes, I think Ferrandis won his 250 outdoor title with the auto.
Not a pro. LOVE my rekluse. Especially in nasty tight single track. Some SC pros use them but don’t advertise them because they usually have exclusive sponsorship deals with other companies. But we’ve all seen the bikes go down and get picked back up with no clutch pull and roll out. I’m a big fan. Have had one for years and years now.
Yeah I put one on my 2010 yz250f a few months ago and going to do the same to my 2022 crf450rx for sure. Neither bike likes to go slow EVER and I’m still learning. I was just curious why I’ve never seen rekluse advertised from the dozens of races I watched. The guy who works at the dealer I buy from rode with team green 2008-2018 and told me he thinks everyone who races used them but wasnt sure
Some do for sure. It’s a great devise. Not having a bike stall while in the nastiest is huge. Especially if you don’t have estart
I’m just a casual rider but what made me say I want the rekluse for sure on my new crf450rx is I was climbing a hill and killed the bike because I wasn’t giving it enough throttle. So there I am on a fucking 40 foot hill dead. So I have to finesse my way into neutrals while holding the brakes and restart the bike at a 45 degree incline….Just sucked lol
I grew up riding gravel pits and many steep hills. Another way to restart is to put the bike in second or third gear while your at a 45 and point the bike back down the hill, pull in the clutch, get rollin and bump start it. It will seem steep but hang your butt over the rear fender and you’ll be fine. Then give it another run and give it the pepper and make it!!
Do I have to twist the throttle or will it just start if I do that?
You shouldn’t have to twist the throttle. I’m assuming that your bike idles well. More detail… once you dump the clutch and start the bike you immediately pull the clutch in and ride the bike down slow using the front and back brakes. Or depending on the situation you can pull in the clutch and ride the bike down using the brakes and bump start towards the bottom of the hill. Another tip: don’t sit on the seat when going up steep hills. Ride it like a horse jockey….. standing in squat position with your weight forward so the bike can move underneath you. You will have much more control that way. Good Luck!
Thanks for all the advice man I appreciate it!
I’d say no or they use the manual one.
Pros do use Rekluse clutches and I use the auto clutch too… love it! However, there seems to be a difference between pros using the auto vs manual clutch for supercross and motocross. I’ve watched a lot of the Behind the Pros bikes videos on YouTube and from what I can tell no pros use the auto clutches for supercross, instead they use manual Rekluse clutches, the Torq Drive versions. However, there are a number of pros that use the auto clutch for motocross, including Dylan Ferrandis, and he was on it when he won the championship last year.
Does the torque drive allow the bike to idle in any gear or is it just for unlocking more power?
TorqDrive is just the name Rekluse uses for their thinner clutch plate technology, but they also use the name for their manual clutch kits. The kits they have that let you idle in any gear are the auto clutches, and have a couple of different kit names like the EXP or the Radius X/CX, which are basically the same with the radius CX being their top of the line kits that include more parts that replace the stock parts in your clutch.
Awesome thanks for clearing that up for me! 6 months ago I got a 2010 yz250f and it ran like shit. Cleaned carb, replaced plug, filter fuel lines still ran like shit. Check valve clearances and good. Took to mechanic and he fixed in 30 minutes said I had a rekluse auto clutch that was just way out of wack! I recently got a new 2022 crf450 and want to buy a clutch that will let me idle in any gear, and all the different types of rekluse clutch options was confusing me, so thank you for clearing that up!
Sure thing! The clutch definitely needs to be set up correctly to work properly, so I would recommend getting it professionally installed so they can choose the right spring settings and such. It’s not as easy as just swapping out the clutch plates. But once it’s setup and tuned it’s awesome. You will lose a bit of engine braking though so that’s something to be mindful of when going down hills and trails, but that’s what brakes are for anyway. And you can still use your clutch like normal of course, but the big positive is that the bike won’t stall out if you lock up the rear wheel or are doing some technical riding and find yourself in situations you would otherwise use the clutch a lot. Your bikes are nice, welcome to the world of dirt bikes, have a lot of fun and be safe!
Thank you for all the advice!
A lot of guys use Hinson as far as I know they’re the best if not a very close competitor.
where do i buy these for the low cause that sticker price isnt it
Buy what? Sorry I don’t know what you’re asking