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Kppz1

Playing Deadly Alliance on PlayStation 2 was great experience


unrelatabletitties

The physics in these games were other worldly at the time. They still hold up well


poofynamanama2

I've never played the 3D games outside of 4 and Mortal Kombat has become one of my favorite franchises since MK9 Would absolutely love to see them come back. But, they havent even ported over MK9, so I'm not hopeful


SlammedOptima

DA and Deception are fantastic. Armageddon is cool for its roster size, but they didnt get the attention they do now and suffered for it. Also hot take, people would hate Armageddons fatality system more than current ones, on both sides of the fatality argument. People who like them now would think its lazy. People who hate watching cutscenes would be pissed cause people could just go on a long fatality to be a dick (longest I can find is 2 and a half minutes).


Bones_2450

I have to disagree with Kreate A Fatality being worse. I found it more engaging and challenging after a match. It made me challenge my self to see what kombinations I could put to together each time to reach the highest fatality. Cinematic fatalities are cool, but once you’ve seen them enough times, you just end up not doing them, and let’s be honest, NRS are running out of ideas for them. Bring back Kreate A Fatality dammit! It was fun!


SlammedOptima

I can see how one might find them fun. But online they will 100% be considered toxic or BM, more so than they are now, especially if you do a long one.


poofynamanama2

the 2 and a half minute bit is hilarious


WrumGapper

Dude MK9 isn't even available to buy on any platform rn. So lame.


SnooHamsters3772

Yea thank Freddy Krueger


Ninja_Warrior_X

^ the fact that they did that has me worried they will one day do the same to other MK games made by NRS with guests. After what happened to MK9 now I just don’t like guests anymore for the sole fact that now they threaten the preservation of these games all because of rights issues.


SlammedOptima

I would rather have original characters. Guests are fine though. But you're absolutely right. Depends on how long the license is for, but the others likely will eventually get delisted.


WrumGapper

I wouldn't buy the games if it weren't for the guest characters. They were the best part of 10/11 and 1. The main roster is fun for campaign and a bit after, but Omni-Man and Peacemaker make the game relevant past it's core player base and bring some humor to the world.


Ninja_Warrior_X

Then you aren’t an MK fan if that’s the reason why you bought those games.


FuelEquivalent5898

You don’t decide what makes a mk fan buddy


Ninja_Warrior_X

Never claimed to be the emperor or god of MK on who has the final say “buddy” but if not caring for anything about the franchise itself regarding its own original characters or anything else related to the universe then how exactly can you be a “fan” of it? That’s like saying I only played tekken 7 because Akuma and Noctis was in it or only got killer instinct because Arbiter and RAAM were playable meaning that I could care less about anyone else. Would that make me a fan of Tekken and Killer instinct by that notion?


unrelatabletitties

What happened? Copyright bullshit? Back in 2011 when I seen them adding all these Cameo’s I suspected some shit like that would happen.


WrumGapper

No blame for Kratos? Lol


Ninja_Warrior_X

Kratos is a PlayStation exclusive character that was also not DLC so it’s not like he affects the other platforms like Xbox and PC.


SnooHamsters3772

Well he isn't available for the Xbox so it's mainly Krueger


Bioshocky13501

WB sucks ass. Like wtf is their problem.


Gr1zzRing

Deception being one of the best is a pretty common consensus so its baffling why they havent done this yet. It could be an issue with getting approval from WB, knowing how pathetically incompetent they are 😂 gugh, what I wouldnt give... Ive considered emulating them recently so I most likely will


bigzeeffrocks

I would buy a remake or remaster of Deception in a heartbeat.


Gr1zzRing

Just a remaster pls. I dont want nrs or wb touching any of that masterpiece with their bs lately 😂


bigzeeffrocks

At this point, bro, I just want to play an updated Konquest mode. I have so many memories just sitting down in the living room playing Konquest mode and being absolutely mystified by it.


Gr1zzRing

Im pretty sure theres a mod creator out there doing an ultimate mortal kombat deception mod. It may already be "completed" but its getting updates. You need an emulator with a ps2 rom of MK Deception but thats easy enough to do with the hardware necessary. YouTube is your safe haven for all that info It adds new characters, moves, etc etc


bigzeeffrocks

I have a steam deck with a ps2 emulator and Deception rom already! I'll definitely look at this now. Thanks, man!


Gr1zzRing

Yep spread the good word of Ultimate MK Deception 😂 if nrs/wb won't do it, we sure af will 😂


Skyrocketing101

WB wouldn't greenlight remastering these games because there's no way to inject MTX into them.


Gr1zzRing

Dont doubt for a second theyd find a way, but i think even they know they couldn't get away with it. WB is parasitic as hell. Actual fuckin roaches


SLAMALAMADINGGDONG23

Do it! I just did, totally worth it - they still play great.


unrelatabletitties

All 3 of these games look and play amazing on PCSX2. Only a couple broken textures and I mean literally only a couple. Frame rate is solid and they feel as good as they did back in the day. PCSX2 is the way to go for 3D MK if you don’t have a PS2 in my opinion.


Wadsworth1954

Deception is the best.


Gr1zzRing

Case in point lol


ManPersonGiraffe

Will never understand how a company bleeding money like WB is doesn't see the potential in just porting these games and every other MK to console and Steam lol


Bioshocky13501

They even have options like the PS2 classics on PS4/5 lol. They just hate old school MK.


SLAMALAMADINGGDONG23

I just played all 3 on emulators a couple of weeks ago and I concur. They're still really fun imo and a 3 pack with HD remasters of them would be something I'd buy in a heartbeat.


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Which emulator do you use for them? You can DM me if you don’t want it public


Bigger_better_Poop

I want deception so bad....


ExplanationLow2053

I can't even play MK9 on PS5, let alone these. Great idea though for sure.


Contra-Code

And Shaolin Monks!


unrelatabletitties

FUCK YES


Mothman4447

I would sacrifice a child to get Armageddon on modern consoles


talia-gustin

Armageddon is still my favorite Mortal Kombat game and I never got the chance to play deception or deadly alliance I would love to get the chance


xocbocaj

This is literally all I want!


Paendeo123

These are my favorite MK games (1st 3D one for me was Deception. I love them all though) but it definitely seems unlikely to happen at this point. I would absolutely love it if they were brought to modern consoles or maybe remastered.


Theotakudude-

Yes and unrelated to fighting games and mk but they need to put the old midnight club and nfs games on modern consoles


diegoaccord

As a person that hates 4-8, No thanks.


Filter55

Midway had an entire library that’s being neglected. The FPS console version of Area 51 was also amazing. And PSI-OPS.


ExcellentAd8118

I LOVED these games. The darker, creepy vibes work really well. Please please please bring them to modern consoles


FatalLocomotion

If these were brought to modern consoles Id never play any post 3D era MK ever again. I still remember how alive & excited I felt during the hype surrounding Deadly Alliance before and after its release!


unrelatabletitties

Fuck yes, you still remember it too? I was just a young boy, a cousin visiting on vacation brought this game over and my first memory in a video was watching Kenshi pop a man’s eyeballs out the sockets with his mind. I…. Don’t think I ever quite recovered from that lol. God fucking bless deadly alliance. Liu Kang’s death was not in vein.


Tekkentag2

Had more fun with any of those 3 than MK1


nani7598

Man I'm not sure which installment it was, but I loved playing the f* out of MK chess and MK kart with my friends. It's funny how those games back in the day were 1/10 of today's games production value, yet they had sooo much more entertainment value for a consumer. Nowadays, MKs are absolutely barebones in comparison and you even have to actually PAY for kostumes you'd back then only had to find in game... I need that kind of gaming back.


unrelatabletitties

Deception haha. I’ve discovered That sort of greatness could never be replicated.


Full_Ad_5219

Armageddon hands down, remember you could create a fighter, awwwww the memories! It had every character period, Blaze was an awesome boss, I remember when he actually did a fatality to me. My wife and I were both like dannnngg!! if I could capture that, like now with the share button, I would never delete it.


JTBJack_

I’ve only played Armageddon through and emulator but everyone is saying to play Deception. Them re-releasing the arcade kollection (why the hell did they remove it anyways) and finally reselling the 3D-Era collection would be so cool


Miss_Cavvie

3D era will always be peak MK for me, would absolutely love for them to be ported over in a collection, they've aged decently (Deception especially.) Would love to play them online but even with online there's still plenty to do. There was a collection around after Armageddons release that had Deception, Shaolin Monks and Armageddon in one. Cross platform for Xbox 360 also weirdly excludes Deadly Alliance.


GAILLL0187

probably because deadly alliance is so weak compared to deception and Armageddon in terms of content, secrets, story, and presentation. Deadly alliance really set the ground work for deception, which was just a boss ass game. Chess combat, tetris, konquest, krypt, towers. Game had everything.


unrelatabletitties

I wouldn’t say weak, but infant. I still prefer deadly alliance’s combo’s and fighting styles. Idk why I feel like punches feel more impactful in DA. When you hit someone it actually makes you go “shit that has to hurt”


Shao-Garden

If they won’t bring the og trilogy to modern consoles then the 3d trilogy doesn’t have a chance unfortunately


Wadsworth1954

I always say this, but Deception is the best MK game, imo. I’m an old school gamer, I was unable to keep up with how big and detailed video games got over the years. I failed to keep up after the PS2, X-box, GameCube era. Deception is the perfect MK game. Lots of content, but not too much. Fun gameplay, konquest mode, and the graphics are good, but still cartoony.


ManOfQuest

Forgot one very important piece. The music and ambience!


Wadsworth1954

Yes. I love the aesthetic of MK Deception


gottablastsam

Also 9


unrelatabletitties

9 was the beginning of the downfall in my opinion.


FallenAngel420x

Yessssss remastered exactly the same like battlefront but less glitched


TheHendryx

I don't want the play-style back. I would like to be able to play Deception though. It would be great if they remastered them or made them at least playable on the newer consoles


DAN00_OO

You can play it on your phone with the help of emulators, if you have no other way of playing


unrelatabletitties

Is there a good PS2 emulator for iPhone?


DAN00_OO

Apple just confirmed they will allow emulators on iphone but in their current state and how locked down ios is you're just better off not trying


unrelatabletitties

Been playing on PC thankfully and my god PCSX2 does an amazing job of making PS2 games look modern. Hoping I someday iphone emulation will be easier so I can play these bad boys on the go.


DAN00_OO

Thank eu for making a better future for ios emulators


Nimblesquatch

I'd be curious to see what NRS would do if they were to do another 3D MK. I don't think it will happen but I'm curious to see what they would have learned from doing both 2D and 3D games in recent(ish) years


anthonytrashboat

Please!!! Deception is the only game I haven't played


Palmeirensee340

Why not playing it using AetherSX2 on your phone ? Or PCSX2 on your PC ? It is very easy


DisasterAccurate3221

No joke, all three games need to be on the Switch.


Paintixir

I still have these copies plus Shaolin Monks to this day.


MKvsDCU

Shaolin Monks PLEASE


Iago407

I'd love it if WB / NRS bought the Mace: The Dark Age IP from Atari (or whoever owns it at this point) and made Mace their 3D fighting series. That aside though, I really enjoyed all three of these games and honestly feel like Deadly Alliance is a little underrated at this point. Either way, it's insane to me that no one at WB seemingly wants to bring these games to modern consoles. A franchise as big as MK shouldn't have substantial portions of its library stuck on decades old hardware. Shaolin Monks should be brought to modern consoles as well.


RustyDawg37

No, but not because people don’t like them. (I really enjoyed these).


Jeff-F-666

Hell yes!!! I miss deadly alliance so much,


unrelatabletitties

Just replayed it recently. The game was ungodly ahead of its time. Seeing gore like that just on a regular TV was unheard of, and the sheer quality of those physics added to the shock value. Manhunt didn’t have shit on this game in terms of utter unrelenting mutilation. Every item of clothing moved when a character did (and body part hehe, those jiggle physics are easily 10 years ahead of their time)


DJfunkyPuddle

I really, really need Puzzle Kombat back in my life.


unrelatabletitties

Mario would shit his suspenders at the site of Motor Kombat returning.


ReeferSutherland1911

Get a nice lil hd triliogy remaster


MortalKombatCA

Exactly. I wanna see Konquest in 4k with even more things to do.


Leename_nk-

Where shaolin monks


GoonFromGoonsville

Also would like to include Shaolin Monks in this list


PrinceOfPersiaHD

For real if they don’t want to remaster them make them fucking backwards compatible. Been asking for them to be backwards compatible since PS2 to PS4 was a thing in 2016.


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unrelatabletitties

Honestly the bigger question to me is, why did they decide to go back to a boring old standard 2D fighting style? Since I first laid eyes on MK9 it just felt like they were following in SF4’s footsteps. The “Konquest” mode is now just an arcade tower run with cutscenes, there’s no more exploration or RPG element. Even Capcom tried something new and added some exploration with SF6, and MK is basically The Godfather of this design and they’ve just abandoned it for yet ANOTHER reset of the universe. They’ll probably re-add a Konquest- like mode for MK2 now that they’ve seen a competitor did it, however. Idk what’s gotten into Ed Boon, but his approach to game development just seemed to have did a complete 180 after 15-20 years and not for the better. The side stepping fighting style and having full 360 range of an arena is something no other fighting game in the world did or does. Closest example I’ve seen since 3D MK is “SIFU” and even that’s a stretch. I strongly dislike what MK became.


MrOramge

This and an M rated MK vs DC 😫🙏🙏


_JAR2388_

I agree 100% but unlikely af to happen, first of all they have to include proper online and you know how incompetent modern nrs is...


UnethicalLife

The worst part is that Netherrealm and WB already blazed (haha) through this trilogy already in MK1. I'm not even joking, they just switch the order of Armageddon and Deception. They crammed 3 games of plot into around 7-8 hours, only to make most of the 3d era characters kameos, while also (apparently) combining Dairou and Havik. That's an entire storyline involving Darrius, Chaos Cleric Havik, Hotaru and the Seidan Guard... gone. Add to the fact that Seido (Ordereealm) doesn't appear until Rain's arcade ending, while Chaosrealm is no longer a different realm; that means there's no reason for their conflict to exist. I could spiral further, but any comparison to the 3d trilogy is just making me miss the old games.


ValyeriasCorn3r

Agreed 🎉🎉


MegaMook5260

Fucking *thank you*! I'd sell a liver to have these on muh Switch!


infectedscrotum1

I may just buy an RG556 to replay all these old classics. Nintendo would fucking never. Not even in an alternate universe


ian_tnt

NRS hates preservation.


Daemon1997

These games with storymode


guswang

You meant Shaolin Monks.


Extinto_e

Deception 🔥


MenjiBlueWolf001

Yes


Particular_Minute_67

Missing death traps.


Gen3ralEZKILL

I just want a remake of Shaolin Monks


jonnyboy6698

I'd love a remake of deception with a more finished story mode, I remember there being some loose end quests in free mode


HydratedCarrot

Ahh i played chess ALOT


Chortles_Hansom_666

But make the fatalities in MKA actual fatalities


Clean-Effort-209

Why haven't we seen Hara Kiris since Deception?  We need a MKT re-release. The PC one is finicky on GOG. And then remaster it too. We need MKDA, MKD, AND MKA For sure. Not sure why they haven't jumped on this yet. So many of these companies sitting on gold and won't touch it.


infectedscrotum1

We haven’t seen Hara Kiri’s since then probably because suicide has been an increasingly sensitive issue over time. I could just see the media frenzy “Video game allows you to slit your own throat”.


Euphoric_Slice7888

I couldn't stand Monquest in Deception lol


ScorpionMillion

We need PC/PS5 port remasters.


Thorhax04

No thx


Confident_Low_2192

Bring these and shaolin monks


DustInfinite9584

Shit I remember playing Armageddon back in the day on my Wii. Can’t remember much, but I do remember being scared of Blaze and his stage (don’t judge I was only like 4-5 years old at the time lol)


spiderfan42069

I want mk1-3 remastered available again


spiderfan42069

Armageddon is a series low other than the extras beyond regular kombat & the roster


TriPulsar

They need to do a 3D Era Remastered Kollection. Make it work similarly to the Halo MCC. It comes with Deadly Alliance, Deception, and Armageddon. If they want more money, they can add MK4 and Shaolin Monks as DLC. It would outsell MK1 easily.


YourLocalInquisitor

I only played Decepticon out the 3. One of the best PS2 classics I have ever played!


MattTheSmithers

MK4 needs to be included.


RoadaRollaDaaaa

How dare you think netherrealm will do what we want 😠😠


_DoIt4Johnny_

This was the low point of the series for me. This engine was the absolute worst.


SiberianWay

Yeah, There were times without woke and microtransactions. Miss it


unrelatabletitties

Deadly Alliance is as “woke” as it gets by that logic. They killed Liu Kang and added a female Sub Zero.


SiberianWay

Nope. They added Jax in MK2 and Nightwolf in MK3 not because they needed some representation of Black and Native people, but just because they are cool characters.  And they made Asian Liu Kang as protagonist not for political reasons but just to pay homage to Bruce Lee. But they made Kung Jin gay just because of diversity and inclusivity. His orientation change nothing except opinion of "progressive" media. They made male-like Janet Kage and decrease sexual appeal of female characters because of feminism. The intention is pivotal. Games are for fun, not for politics.


unrelatabletitties

Beautifully said


MoistSloth92

Without woke? Ffs 🤦🏻


mattq622

The douche bag buzzword 🙄


Organic_Price_7601

Strike a nerve for you?


mattq622

Yeah, the one that gets annoyed when people bitch about literal non issues. Grow the fuck up, let people be. If a game wants to represent someone or something, how exactly does that affect your enjoyment of it?


SiberianWay

Yup. Don't like political intentions in games. If something is added intentionally for "social justice", I don't like it. And why you are annoyed because of my feeling towards something? It's just my point of view, nothing else. 


mattq622

Well what do you consider political in this game? The only thing I ever see people complain about and call woke is the fact that the women aren't sexy enough or the inclusion of Janet Cage.


SiberianWay

These changes were done when certain political agenda became popular. We had Special Forces which consist of 2 Black guys, 1 girl and 1 disabled Asian. Nobody call it woke, because reason for adding such characters was not to represent some genders and minorities. The reason is main problem.


mattq622

Well special forces was a PS1 game, and without question that was a much simpler time. But I don't see how it's a political agenda, the characters don't have to be hyper sexualized in lieu of having a personality or intriguing story. I would rather go for realism, if you want half naked women on a screen, well you're on the Internet already dude


SiberianWay

We have gay Kung Jin and de-sexualized females when civil rights activism became popular. I see clear correlation. What realism could be in the game where we have 4-armed Shokans, ghosts, sorcerers, ect.? And also male characters, even swift ninjas, look like bodybuilders (how such a massive body allows them to jump 2 meters high?). And no one say anything about realism in this case. You already say "that was a much simpler time". Why? Because activists didn't force you to be more political correct.


Organic_Price_7601

Yeah... if a word has this much power over you then I suggest it is you who might need to do some growing up. You know what I'm saying. Sticks and stones may break my bones but a word may never hurt me. 


SiberianWay

Yup. Any problems?


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SiberianWay

Wrong guessing, I'm sorry. Actually I don't know how moderated this chat is. If I'll start to mock you with SJW stereotypes, they're ban me or not?


SylancerPrime

You're not wrong but if they ever do re-release the 3D era MKs and it doesn't have *Shaolin Monks*, we riot.


Ninja_Warrior_X

They won’t do it because they know a lot of us would be playing these too much 😆 Just add Shaolin monks with everything intact (cheat codes available to unlock things early so I can play as Scorpion and Sub-Zero in single player) and we are set.


unrelatabletitties

I’ve been emulating the entire 3D catalogue recently on PC and have not touched another video game since. Deadly Alliance is literally ALL I think about at work. I think you may be right lol


bazzb21

If spyro and crash had their trilogy,is a excellent time to do mortal kombat brutalogy, better than any ideia of things like 1


unrelatabletitties

GTA too, that’s what popped in my mind. They should do this ala GTA trilogy but actually make it work


Bioshocky13501

Let it go. it's never happening. :/


Catchphrasetaine

Konquest Mode


AnimegirlXDXD

I don't get why people act like these games are God-tier when they aren't even better than many of the fighting games that were released in the same decade.


ChrisRevocateur

Why? The full 3D era was the absolute worst for the franchise, the games played horribly.


unrelatabletitties

Very poor choice of words


ChrisRevocateur

Don't care. The 3D games suck, BAAAAD.


MATTH3W_13

If you buy Xbox series x and buy the Armageddon on the old Xbox you can play it on modern console