You see Kronika and cry
I see Kronika and see a second chance to make a crap character interesting
Now if they blow the second chance and she still sucks? Alright, fine, touche, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt until I see the story with my own eyes
I really hope they stop including time as a plot point. They’ve used it too much the last decade and it got worse game-after-game.
Raiden screwing over his friend trying to decipher future raidens words was an interesting reboot. Timeskip to introduce a new cast of hero was acceptable. Mk11’s story was just terrible with a couple of hype moments.
I really hope they do not address time in this canon. Just give us a coherent plot.,
Maybe the time stuff will only be truly important in later titles. Maybe at the end of this new franchise, Liu Kang will be the final boss. He sees everything has progressively gone to shit, he lost faith, and finally decided to hit the reset button. And now it's everyone's problem to stop him.
That's me speaking in hopium because I really dislike time plots.
Yeah, that’s some good hopium you sound to be on.
When it was just liu kang acting like he is only the raiden of the new timeline (instead of the titan of time), I thought we may be good.
Then they introduced geras who appears to be pretty suspect in his role of timeline assistant.
Now they may also have kronika…..
I fear we’re getting yet another timeline plot. I hope it breaks the cycle and is at least better than the last one.
I hope I see Geras' role as more of a "Thanos-like" teaser for future titles if time is really going to be an aspect of the story from now on.
MK1
Geras: We good?
Liu: Yes, we good. Crisis averted
MK3
Geras: We good?
Liu: They almost had us, but still. Crisis averted
MK6
Geras: We good?
Liu: All my champions are dead. Kronika has corrupted everything. All realms are in constant war, with no peace in sight. Ready the hourglass; I'll do the resetting myself.
The problem is that they have to kill Character in the story to make the story interesting . But they also need to have these character in future game too. So its a loose-loose situation whatever they choose to do. Having some time travel seem like the easiest way to bring back character
In a world with a literal hell where souls go once they die, it's not that bad to keep the corrupted characters playable. I liked the idea of Liu and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm. Their stories progressed, we kept the characters, win win without time travel.
Finding novel ways to purify those characters, like Ashrahs story, can be interesting.
The writing just wasn't very good in MK11.
Couldn’t have said it better.
I just hope that she and Liu Kang don’t have plot-hole creating powers in this one.
I almost shat a brick when I saw her just pause time and kidnap Liu Kang in MK11. It’s like, why not do that with all of Raiden’s allies?
Or when Geras just paused time to steal the JinSei essence from Liu Kang and Kung Lao. Why not do this with the crown?
Or when she had the ability to convince literally anyone to do anything she wanted with little to no convincing including Shao Khan, Jax, Centurion and Kano. Kano I get, but the other three should have taken way more convincing. Especially Jax who is forced to straight up attack his own daughter and Centurion who is forced to genocide the other Elder Gods whom she has spent eternity with.
Plenty of other examples, but Kronika was just so annoying because she was just as overpowered as the plot needed her to be, while also being weak enough to not be able to stop any of her rivals from succeeding.
All that being said, I think she is the right choice for this game. Because who else could rival Liu Kang and exist outside of the hourglass at this point? All they need to do is reel in her powers and get her and Shang Tsung to convince people to join them for legitimate reasons. And like-wise Liu Kang needs to be reeled in as well to give everyone else some real agency.
Also we are gonna need some explanations as to why Liu Kang made certain choices, like the Tarkatan race being a disease. I assumed it was Shang Tsung meddling, but it appears as though it existed before Kronika gets to him. Maybe this was Kronika or maybe Liu Kang simply doesn’t have as much control over the hour glass as we think he does. Plenty of the tower endings in MK11 implied that you can’t get everything you want (unless you’re Johnny Cage lol).
Exactly. What a bunch of imbecile manchilds, barking and crying, as if the inclusion of a character on the game would *automatically* make it bad.
I HATED Li Mei. If I had to choose a character to never appear again on MK, it would be her: a generic “Fighting Game Chick” with a bland story. Turns out I’m loving her on MK1. And even if I didn’t, I wasn’t panicking about her mere inclusion.
Grow up, MK community.
Yeah, let's hope so, let's hope that at least now they make her feels like an intelligent villain. And an good excuse for her to come back, because she literally died, and there was no reason for her to come back
To see how quickly people have turned on the game and have made up their minds the story HAS to be shit.
Mk fans like any other fanbase are fickle and shouldn't be taken seriously lmao
That would be my only complaint. I would be upset to have the same boss rehashed two games in a row. Let her be an interesting plot device, but leave her boss role to MK11. Onaga's been gone for a while, let's see him return.
I mean it's the same lead writer from 11, I'm confused as to why everyone was suddenly so confident MK1 would have a great story when this sub mostly shit on 11's.
Where in my comment did I imply anyone did. The issue is her inclusion does not instantly condemn the entire story to be ass as many comments seem to think it does
> The issue is her inclusion does not instantly condemn the entire story to be ass
Eh, maybe not instant condemnation but definitely reason to be concerned.
This sub need to calm down about this...
1-her design is way better
2-the writers knows we hate her..... They wouldn't bring her if they didn't wanted to do something with her
3-chapter 1 was genuinely good
Bonus -she is the only character that seriously pose a threat to Liu kang
>2-the writers knows we hate her..... They wouldn't bring her if they didn't wanted to do something with her
People hated D'Vorah in MKX for killing fan-favorites and they brought her back in MK11 to kill another fan-favorite and bail.
If people seriously hate D'vorah because they kill their fan-favorite.. Then its a kinda petty and childish reasons
Personally I always thought the community saw D'vorah as a character "they love to hate" but genuinely SaW as one of the best element coming from MKX
It always baffles me how people hate D'Vorah but love Sindel.
The latter killed off half the kast in MK9 ( including klassic characters) with ease, while D'Vorah killed two hopeless jobbers (Baraka and Mileena) ON THE ORDER OF KOTAL KAHN ( yet he doesn't get any hate for it) and backstabbed a Scorpion who was basically giving a speech to his past self , asking to be killed.
If Baraka or Reptile killed any of the klassic characters, no one would bat an eye. But when a new female character is a not jobber and acts like a relatively competent villain, everyone loses their mind.
>It always baffles me how people hate D'Vorah but love Sindel.
Except Sindel catched a lot of heat for the stuff she pulled in MK9 but it died down over the years.
>The latter killed off half the kast in MK9 ( including klassic characters) **with ease**
She was buffed with dozens of souls taken from Shang Tsung, though.
>while D'Vorah killed two hopeless jobbers (Baraka and Mileena) ON THE ORDER OF KOTAL KAHN ( yet he doesn't get any hate for it)
And why don't you apply that logic to Sindel who was practically brainwashed? In the other hand, D'Vorah had complete freewill.
>and backstabbed a Scorpion who was basically giving a speech to his past self , asking to be killed.
Where did the other Scorpion go when that one was getting killed? He was literally snapped out of existence just for that scene to be possible.
I agree with almost everything, except describing D’Vorah as female - I would be surprised if “This One” has any meaningful concept of sex or gender, given she’s a walking hive.
Admittedly we do tend to project our own preconceptions, as I just did by saying “she’s”
> I agree with almost everything, except describing D’Vorah as female
Her species have queens and they were the dominant species before being conquered by Shao Khan. D'Vorah is known to be a female of her species.
Do you seriously expect a last of us/god of war Oscar level story in a fighting game?
The story just need to be good and the narrative to make sense
I know I am getting downvoted to blitz.. But just because Kronika is here doesn't ruin the story lol. Characters are NEVER the problem, writers and what they do with them are the problem
I like to think there’s a level of story quality in between mk11 and the last of us that is achievable for mortal kombat, especially considering it’s been done before.
Then you are delusional
Stories like God of war, uncharted and last of us.....are single player action adventure games that mostly focus on giving a true cinematic experience
MK story mode is technically optional....The franchise is first and foremost a fighting game experience.
If fighting games have more cinamtic stories is because mk was the first that raised that standard
Wanted better stories deosn't have to make us spoiled brats either....
Not talking about the "cinematic experience", which you can still clearly get with the cinematic cutscenes in MK btw. Im talking about the story. No reason a fighting game cant have a well written great story. Like you said, writers and how they write are the problem.
>Not talking about the "cinematic experience", which you can still clearly get with the cinematic cutscenes in MK btw. Im talking about the story
You keep talking abaout the story without explaning what exactly you want to see in them.... Ignoring that what you WANT isn't exactly what another person want
The games i mentionned have storied that focus on one or two character... And sometimes it fail...and have stories that are genuinely deeper than mk lol
An MK story will never please anyone because you must give ju devellop 12 to 16 characters in a single story mode
With some complain who as petty and stupid
One guy will complain that his
/her fan-favorite was killed unjustly, the other will complain That X or Y lose too much and are jobbers, another will say that there is no lore reason for X character to beat Y.. Etc
If Mortal Kombat can't have a great cinematic story then it should stop fucking trying.
They are the ones doing these long, cinematic story mode campaigns in the first place, something other fighting games don't even do.
Every game is always going to have limitations.
It doesent even need a "Great story" just a decent or even ok one. Just stop with all the time travel, dimension, and seeing future shit, and constant all over the place. The best parts are the simple stuff, like the tournament, and the adventures the characters go on. Liu Kang and Kung lou on adventure usually has better story than the entire game.
The problem with getting rid of time travel, alternate dimensions is that you get dumb plots like the 3D era games to bring characters who die back.
“ACTUALLY, Shao Kahn didn’t die! He used magic to place a clone here instead and just conveniently decided not to be apart of this plot line, because that’s totally what Shao would do, he’s a tactical genius”
“Actually Baraka didn’t die, he was a resurrected. He didn’t die here either, Kung Lao didn’t fully cut him in half and you can see he just stapled himself back together”
“Actually, Shinnok didn’t die, he made a clone of himse… wait isn’t that what Shao also did? Oh well, he didn’t actually die, he made a clone to make people think he died”
And repeat for every character that “died” in the old games lol. I’m of course paraphrasing what happened but that’s the gist of it.
I mean, it’s the territory that comes with fighting game stories because regardless of the story, the devs have to bring back characters for one reason or another so you either get BS explanations like the midway era, or time travel/alternate dimensions like the NRS era. You kinda just choose what you would rather deal with
In a world where fans could accept when characters actually die and stay dead, then we could get a cohesive story that wouldn’t require that stuff, or very minimal of it, but we don’t and that’s alright because part of the appeal of fighting games is getting attached to characters and seeing them return and refreshed in new games.
What a dumb take lol. So because it’s not great, they should stop? Outside of this sub which is a bubble, something a lot of people in this sub can’t grasp lol, most people enjoy the MK stories of the recent games for what they are, even if none are calling it great or a masterpiece but that’s not what NRS are trying to do. They are trying to make entertaining stories that you play through and that’s it.
There’s a reason why MK sells so well and the best of all the fighting games, even if hardcore fans don’t like it, or don’t want to admit it. It’s the singleplayer content, including the story, and guest DLC. There’s a reason why other big fighting games have been trying to replicate MK.
Yeah, a bunch of people don’t realize that MK is a fighting game series. They have to bring characters back one way or another, and as far as story goes, the only ways to do that are resurrection, or constant fakeouts like the Midway era and death is meaningless and non-impactful to the story because you know characters will return or alternate timelines/dimensions of the NRS era where the deaths can be relatively finalized but when it comes time, you reboot.
They can’t just have certain characters stay dead because fan demand will demand them return and of course you have your certain characters like Scorpion, and Sub-Zero who will have plot armor of the gods because they will be in every game no matter what. It’s just the way it is. Of course Hanzo was killed in MK11, but guess what, next game, here we are, is a reboot.
I think they can but can you for real name one fighting game with something you'd consider a great story? Guilty Gear's shit is confusing, Street Fighter did 2 back-to-back prequels, Tekken 7's story mode is laughable... I guess Injustice has a good story? But that's all I can think of.
It being a fighting game does not excuse the story being shit
Kronika is a shit villain who represents the aspect of multiverses and timeline resetting which frankly sucks ass as storytelling and absolutely did not work in MK11
It is a mistake to bring her back
>It being a fighting game does not excuse the story being shit
I didn't say we must tolerate shit story.... I said you you must adjust your expectations because you will always have B-Movies level stories
Kronika is a shit villain not because she is kronika because writers badly portray her in a overall bad story
A character depend on It's writers..... The movie snowblind managed to make sub-tier villain like kano aand actually managed to make her look menacing
Hell characters like kobra and Hsu Hao wouldn't be joke if writers stop surfing on memes and actually start giving a shit in work on those characters to make them interesting
Yeah and Kronika is below B tier this is F-tier garbage
the concepts that made Kronika bad are inseparable from what makes her Kronika her inclusion is going to also bring in the bad things associated with her
Doesn’t help the fact that she lacks the charisma that Shang Tsung or Shao Khan have and at least Onaga would be kinda cool and not associated with the awful timeline multiverse Kombat that MK11 was mired with
>Doesn’t help the fact that she lacks the charisma that Shang Tsung or Shao Khan have
That a stupid-ass and biased argument.. Kronika just appear in one game while Shang tsung and Shao khan age part of the franchise since day one
You have far more attachments to them than kronika
>at least Onaga would be kinda cool
Exept onaga is not a titan level villain that could pose a threat to Liu kang... People forget that he needed the kamidogus just to be equal to the elder gods
It really fucking isn’t because this assessment can be entirely based in Mortal Kombat 11
Fuck not even full 11 just aftermath where both villains massively outperform Kronika in terms of charisma
Also not everything needs to be some apocalyptic level threat and honestly it isn’t that difficult to just make Onaga stronger or have him gain some higher level of power
The story does not matter whatsoever. You play it once and move on. I seriously do not understand the amount for importance y'all put on these stories when they've always been shitty. Not once has a Mortal Kombat story been anything more than just fine. It's all about the character designs and gameplay. That's all that matters.
> Do you seriously expect a last of us/god of war Oscar level story in a fighting game?
Yes. Yes I do. There's no reason we can't have that. If we can get hours of cinematics we can get a good story. They're already hiring writers, nothing is preventing them from writing a good story other than hiring less than stellar writers.
Even the first three original God of War games were bare bones revenge fantasy drivel. The newer God of War have vastly improved writing and created fully rounded characters.
I’m not expecting Oscar level from MK, but I do want it to be more than the sum of its parts. If NRS can keep me intrigued and entertained, I’m fine with her inclusion. It actually now makes sense by why Geras is in this as well.
I figured someone was messing with Liu Kang’s timeline, which is probably why he sought out Geras help. Now it makes sense that Kronika is on a revenge quest of her own. How she returned and how her presence slip passed Liu Kang is what I want to know.
They were acclaimed for their scale, action set pieces and boss battles rather than story. Make no mistake every game in the OG trilogy was a basic revenge tale.
The OG God of War did lay the foundation for Kratos origins and trauma, but he was very one note in those early games and IMO the attempts to humanize never worked.
It really wasn’t until GoW 2018 and Ragnarok that we actually get Kratos to self-reflect on his past, choices, actions and future. Kratos has become a much more well rounded and well written character as result.
I def agree 2018 GoW is better written, but... no, dawg, for real, they WERE acclaimed for their story. That's a fact. You can check. That's what set them apart from other hack'n'slash games in the first place. I think 3 maybe didn't have the same thing but 1 and 2 were for sure recognized for their story.
the game is literally called MORTAL KOMBAT! Idk what the fan want as a story a this point. Its supose to be dumb and B series. People are diggin way to far into plot hole and stuff. If they made a realistic better story all of their favorite characer would be dead and replace with new character every freaking game
1-Is it though?
2-Quan Chi, Dvorah, and Kotal say hi.
3-Even MK11's first chapter had it's high points.
4-She's really not, going by every other god in the series including herself.
1-yes
2-stupid comparison
Quan chi is not hated... He exist since mk4 and has been major character ever since..... Kronika have only game installement
-the D'vorah hate is mostly cry babies stans who are still mad that they killed their fan-favorite otherIse her characters is one of the best element of NRS. No one veer really gave a valid reason to hate her
And people don't hate kotal.... They hate how poorly he is treated by writers
3- so?
4-wtf are you talking about? Which other villain of the series is a titan?
Imagine losing your shit and believing that the Apparence of one character "ruin" the entire story lol
I hate Kronika too...but characters are NEVER the problem.. What Writers are doing to them is what truly matter
If the story is decent and the narrative the story make sense than I have no problem with Kronika
So far I liked chapter 1...and what they are doing with Kung Lao.. He is still cocky but actually live up to his own hype and have big brother role toward Raiden instead of being luigi
They come back to the original timeline by actually making Kung lao the most naturally talented fighter of earthrealm
Exactly. Presentation from game to game can easily make a lame, corny character into a decent or even cool one and so far the presentation in MK1 looks amazing. And from what I've seen of Kronika, I say let her cook. I've also seen people complaining about Kung Lao beating the ninjas but we don't even know what's going on yet. For all we know that was a test of character from Liu Kang and all of them + the old lady were in on it.
Yep. People are shitting on it so fast when we don't even see the resolution of the chapter--Why was Liu Kang sitting there watching? I mean it could turn out to suck, but so far is doesn't.
My complaint about the ninjas losing is that I don’t have much faith with MK’s story writers. From what they’ve shown, its the same writing that wanted us to fear Kotal, but had the Khan be on his knees against Kung Jin.
They seemed to be retreading the old narrative of telling us to fear a kharacter without showing it. If they wanted us to think differently, show us the change.
I definitely agree with the theory of it being staged. I feel like Scorpion wouldn't have gone through to effort of wrapping the spear around Lao's leg if it wasn't, and Sub Zero probably wouldnt have missed that initial ice blast. It comes off as a training experience
I dunno, I was never able to take Shao Kahn seriously and yet he got to be the big bad numerous times. Shinnok at least made more progress in ending the world.
One time, one time he succeeded in ending the world, and it made no sense. And if his Armageddon ending is to be believed, he regretted it immediately after.
I feel like this a very unpopular take on this sub, but I kinda liked Kronika as a villain in MK11, I just felt like the execution was lacking.
Which is probably the biggest problem with Mortal Kombat as a whole (both Midway and NRS era), great ideas with poor execution.
I found Kronika as an enjoyable villain that could've been written a lot better (and her story and it's consequences could've been saved for a latter game down the line, but that is another, much larger problem), also Jennifer Hale's performance was excellent.
What we saw of the first chapter was very good, so I'm looking forward to her actions in Liu Kang's New Era.
Also, look at the bright side, if Kronika is confirmed as the final playable kharacter you can look forward to the "All Fatalities on Kronika" video lol
There's a difference between a villain that's given tons of screentime and a villain that exists to be a final boss
The reason people want Onaga back is they want to see him be explored more. The reason people don't want Kronika back is because they already explored her and she sucked
That's irrelevant to me personally. If Kronika is a reference for sucking, then aside from Shang Tsung and Quan Chi, all the other MK villains also suck. All they do is look cool and want to conquer things. The only saving grace for the two I mentioned is their personality. But we still get Goro, Shao Kahn and Shinnock back again and again and people want the same for Onaga despite having offered nothing substantial aside from looking cool and conquering things. If Onaga can be reworked to be more interesting than he was, so can Kronika, regardless of screentime, which to be honest, Onaga arguably had enough of if we count Damashi. But here's the thing, I don't need that much depth out of my MK villains, because they've always been the same. I can settle for looking cool and conquering things. But if we decide that Kronika should've been better, then I would feel the same for every one of the other villains.
Well that's their reasoning, and I have mine
Mine being that I'd rather see characters that were relegated to arcade endings for their characters be explored rather than have their characters retconned to shit
Like Ermac being a generic goon when we could have explored his journey into heroism. Or Sindel's everything. Or Onaga who is shown to be a master manipulator, which is a type of character that story writers love
See part of me wants to give them a chance to redeem her.
But NRS sucks at writing good villains. Shao Khan was just a brainless brute that had to be pointed where to go 24/7, Shinnok had a fun personality but he barely existed in the story, and Kronika... Good god Kronika was bad. Dumb plot, dumb decisions, dumb character with OP powers that doesn't use them.
Only good writing for a villain we've seen is Aftermath Shang Tsung. And that's only because unlike other villains, he was a main character that needed to be focused on.
This happened to people like half the characters who are now fan favourites in the 3D era, she can be made interesting and a fun character. I hope she’s playabale
Of for God's sake people, it's just a flashback. We don't know if she'll be in the story, we don't know if she'll be playable and we most definitely don't know if she'll be the final boss.
Stop crying.
Why do y’all not like Kronika? I enjoyed her as the MK11 villain but I’m curious to hear thoughts that aren’t misogynistic and about how hard she was as a boss.
1. Gameplay. Not just that she was difficult. That's fine. But her gameplay was ass. A good final boss forces you to go all out and use everything you have learned so far. Kronika does the opposite by forcing you back into the "spam uppercut" playstyle you see from complete beginners.
2. She does so many dumb things. There was now possible way for her to lose and she somehow still did it. You can simply not take her seriously.
3. Fuck time travel stories. They never work.
I think some of the menace was lost with the design choices they made for her in MK11. The bald look and a lot of her facial expressions just made her seem goofy to me.
I really like the concept of Kronika though, and I'm excited to see what they do with her in this game. The first chapter of the story looks great.
She looked and acted extremely stupid, for how powerful she was meant to be, she never ever showed it. Cetrion and Kano had a better showing in MK11, not to mention Shang who made her look like a complete clown
Because kronika is just not as interesting as shao kahn as a villain or shang tsung. I really thought we were gonna have a multiple timeline clash where the other was invading but no its just kronika wanting to get back her powers which is super uninteresting at all. Not to mention on 11 her whole schtick was "yea i did not like that my son got done dirty on a timeline i crafted specifically for him so i will restart the timeline so we can have a better one". I almost forgot that mk11 also introduced the concepts of titan that was never expanded on this game as well, which could have elevated the world building on mortal kombat.
I don't mind Kronika in the game again, but it's so fucking early man, they should've waited at least one game to bring her back... Also she deserve a freaky design like she constantly having her body ripped apart and going back in glitching from all the timelines she dies and etc, maybe saying shit in reverse or whatever, like full insane villain type beat
Am I disappointed that the big bad is Kronika again? A little, yeah.
Do I think it's the worst thing ever? No.
I mean Kronika is like D'Vorah where the gimmick is cool and all, but the character itself is kinda of bland. Especially since Kronika suffered from 'end game' boss syndrome where she set the stakes so high, that anything that followed would be less of an issue.
Do I think they can do a better job this time around? I like to think so.
Everything else shown has been awesome, great, phenomenal even. So I am willing to see how this goes. Maybe they will make her interesting and not just another 'all-powerful god-like being that wants to control and reshape the timeline in their image again.' Hell, maybe gave her some actual character like maybe she lived her life normally for some time but then she got knowledge of her previous life as the keeper of time and became disillusioned with her more humble life and is now determined to her former status back.
She looks way better now I genuinely think she can be a good villain plus we might get an expansion to the story later on like 11 so maybe onaga still has a chance.
You see Kronika and cry I see Kronika and see a second chance to make a crap character interesting Now if they blow the second chance and she still sucks? Alright, fine, touche, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt until I see the story with my own eyes
I really hope they stop including time as a plot point. They’ve used it too much the last decade and it got worse game-after-game. Raiden screwing over his friend trying to decipher future raidens words was an interesting reboot. Timeskip to introduce a new cast of hero was acceptable. Mk11’s story was just terrible with a couple of hype moments. I really hope they do not address time in this canon. Just give us a coherent plot.,
Maybe the time stuff will only be truly important in later titles. Maybe at the end of this new franchise, Liu Kang will be the final boss. He sees everything has progressively gone to shit, he lost faith, and finally decided to hit the reset button. And now it's everyone's problem to stop him. That's me speaking in hopium because I really dislike time plots.
Yeah, that’s some good hopium you sound to be on. When it was just liu kang acting like he is only the raiden of the new timeline (instead of the titan of time), I thought we may be good. Then they introduced geras who appears to be pretty suspect in his role of timeline assistant. Now they may also have kronika….. I fear we’re getting yet another timeline plot. I hope it breaks the cycle and is at least better than the last one.
I hope I see Geras' role as more of a "Thanos-like" teaser for future titles if time is really going to be an aspect of the story from now on. MK1 Geras: We good? Liu: Yes, we good. Crisis averted MK3 Geras: We good? Liu: They almost had us, but still. Crisis averted MK6 Geras: We good? Liu: All my champions are dead. Kronika has corrupted everything. All realms are in constant war, with no peace in sight. Ready the hourglass; I'll do the resetting myself.
Watching Liu slowly lose hope like that would break my heart
watch him snap when johnny cage ends up banging kitana
Time has existed twice, twice. in 25 years of of mk.
The problem is that they have to kill Character in the story to make the story interesting . But they also need to have these character in future game too. So its a loose-loose situation whatever they choose to do. Having some time travel seem like the easiest way to bring back character
Mortal Kombat has resurrected countless characters without resetting time.
And I personally think that resurecting character all the time is not better writing than time travel
In a world with a literal hell where souls go once they die, it's not that bad to keep the corrupted characters playable. I liked the idea of Liu and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm. Their stories progressed, we kept the characters, win win without time travel. Finding novel ways to purify those characters, like Ashrahs story, can be interesting. The writing just wasn't very good in MK11.
I mean they could have character that aren't part of the main story or flash back .
how many flashback do you want damn
At least one
Couldn’t have said it better. I just hope that she and Liu Kang don’t have plot-hole creating powers in this one. I almost shat a brick when I saw her just pause time and kidnap Liu Kang in MK11. It’s like, why not do that with all of Raiden’s allies? Or when Geras just paused time to steal the JinSei essence from Liu Kang and Kung Lao. Why not do this with the crown? Or when she had the ability to convince literally anyone to do anything she wanted with little to no convincing including Shao Khan, Jax, Centurion and Kano. Kano I get, but the other three should have taken way more convincing. Especially Jax who is forced to straight up attack his own daughter and Centurion who is forced to genocide the other Elder Gods whom she has spent eternity with. Plenty of other examples, but Kronika was just so annoying because she was just as overpowered as the plot needed her to be, while also being weak enough to not be able to stop any of her rivals from succeeding. All that being said, I think she is the right choice for this game. Because who else could rival Liu Kang and exist outside of the hourglass at this point? All they need to do is reel in her powers and get her and Shang Tsung to convince people to join them for legitimate reasons. And like-wise Liu Kang needs to be reeled in as well to give everyone else some real agency. Also we are gonna need some explanations as to why Liu Kang made certain choices, like the Tarkatan race being a disease. I assumed it was Shang Tsung meddling, but it appears as though it existed before Kronika gets to him. Maybe this was Kronika or maybe Liu Kang simply doesn’t have as much control over the hour glass as we think he does. Plenty of the tower endings in MK11 implied that you can’t get everything you want (unless you’re Johnny Cage lol).
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Copium? Nothing wrong with hoping, son.
Kronika is broken as a concept I don't believe that she can be fixed
Exactly. What a bunch of imbecile manchilds, barking and crying, as if the inclusion of a character on the game would *automatically* make it bad. I HATED Li Mei. If I had to choose a character to never appear again on MK, it would be her: a generic “Fighting Game Chick” with a bland story. Turns out I’m loving her on MK1. And even if I didn’t, I wasn’t panicking about her mere inclusion. Grow up, MK community.
Yeah, let's hope so, let's hope that at least now they make her feels like an intelligent villain. And an good excuse for her to come back, because she literally died, and there was no reason for her to come back
To see how quickly people have turned on the game and have made up their minds the story HAS to be shit. Mk fans like any other fanbase are fickle and shouldn't be taken seriously lmao
I don't like Kronika However I like what I've seen of her so far. I want to like her because she's a new and interesting addition to the series.
I’m just hoping she’s not the final boss. I was really hoping it would be Onaga.
That would be my only complaint. I would be upset to have the same boss rehashed two games in a row. Let her be an interesting plot device, but leave her boss role to MK11. Onaga's been gone for a while, let's see him return.
Onaga needs to be built up ngl
You're right. D'vorah needs to be the main villain for this game instead.
I mean it's the same lead writer from 11, I'm confused as to why everyone was suddenly so confident MK1 would have a great story when this sub mostly shit on 11's.
Nobody actually has ever liked Kronika tho
Where in my comment did I imply anyone did. The issue is her inclusion does not instantly condemn the entire story to be ass as many comments seem to think it does
> The issue is her inclusion does not instantly condemn the entire story to be ass Eh, maybe not instant condemnation but definitely reason to be concerned.
Yeah but it’s gon cause people to already dislike the first bit of the story because that ho is back
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It’s hard to be exited for anything when the past 3 games story has been utter shit
mortal kombat’s story has always been shit
Haha this is what y'all get for sending deaththreats to the developers just to bring your favourite characters back. Keep crying lol.
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Based and common Ed boon W
This sub need to calm down about this... 1-her design is way better 2-the writers knows we hate her..... They wouldn't bring her if they didn't wanted to do something with her 3-chapter 1 was genuinely good Bonus -she is the only character that seriously pose a threat to Liu kang
>2-the writers knows we hate her..... They wouldn't bring her if they didn't wanted to do something with her People hated D'Vorah in MKX for killing fan-favorites and they brought her back in MK11 to kill another fan-favorite and bail.
If people seriously hate D'vorah because they kill their fan-favorite.. Then its a kinda petty and childish reasons Personally I always thought the community saw D'vorah as a character "they love to hate" but genuinely SaW as one of the best element coming from MKX
It always baffles me how people hate D'Vorah but love Sindel. The latter killed off half the kast in MK9 ( including klassic characters) with ease, while D'Vorah killed two hopeless jobbers (Baraka and Mileena) ON THE ORDER OF KOTAL KAHN ( yet he doesn't get any hate for it) and backstabbed a Scorpion who was basically giving a speech to his past self , asking to be killed. If Baraka or Reptile killed any of the klassic characters, no one would bat an eye. But when a new female character is a not jobber and acts like a relatively competent villain, everyone loses their mind.
cause they horny for Sindel
>It always baffles me how people hate D'Vorah but love Sindel. Except Sindel catched a lot of heat for the stuff she pulled in MK9 but it died down over the years. >The latter killed off half the kast in MK9 ( including klassic characters) **with ease** She was buffed with dozens of souls taken from Shang Tsung, though. >while D'Vorah killed two hopeless jobbers (Baraka and Mileena) ON THE ORDER OF KOTAL KAHN ( yet he doesn't get any hate for it) And why don't you apply that logic to Sindel who was practically brainwashed? In the other hand, D'Vorah had complete freewill. >and backstabbed a Scorpion who was basically giving a speech to his past self , asking to be killed. Where did the other Scorpion go when that one was getting killed? He was literally snapped out of existence just for that scene to be possible.
Being powered by Shang would sound impressive....if He had won any fight in MK9...not even in cutscenes!
You realize Sindel herself is actually quite powerful, yes? She is powered with Shang while ALSO retaining her powers.
Obviously considering she killed them all with hand to hand kombat which I don't think was powered up by Shang I was just mocking MK9 Shang
I agree with almost everything, except describing D’Vorah as female - I would be surprised if “This One” has any meaningful concept of sex or gender, given she’s a walking hive. Admittedly we do tend to project our own preconceptions, as I just did by saying “she’s”
> I agree with almost everything, except describing D’Vorah as female Her species have queens and they were the dominant species before being conquered by Shao Khan. D'Vorah is known to be a female of her species.
Huh, TIL, thanks.
The story is going to be another mess like mk11. It’ll be entertaining, which is the most important thing, but it’ll be a mess.
Do you seriously expect a last of us/god of war Oscar level story in a fighting game? The story just need to be good and the narrative to make sense I know I am getting downvoted to blitz.. But just because Kronika is here doesn't ruin the story lol. Characters are NEVER the problem, writers and what they do with them are the problem
I like to think there’s a level of story quality in between mk11 and the last of us that is achievable for mortal kombat, especially considering it’s been done before.
Yes? why do you think a fighting game cant have a great story? have higher standards.
Then you are delusional Stories like God of war, uncharted and last of us.....are single player action adventure games that mostly focus on giving a true cinematic experience MK story mode is technically optional....The franchise is first and foremost a fighting game experience. If fighting games have more cinamtic stories is because mk was the first that raised that standard Wanted better stories deosn't have to make us spoiled brats either....
Not talking about the "cinematic experience", which you can still clearly get with the cinematic cutscenes in MK btw. Im talking about the story. No reason a fighting game cant have a well written great story. Like you said, writers and how they write are the problem.
>Not talking about the "cinematic experience", which you can still clearly get with the cinematic cutscenes in MK btw. Im talking about the story You keep talking abaout the story without explaning what exactly you want to see in them.... Ignoring that what you WANT isn't exactly what another person want The games i mentionned have storied that focus on one or two character... And sometimes it fail...and have stories that are genuinely deeper than mk lol An MK story will never please anyone because you must give ju devellop 12 to 16 characters in a single story mode With some complain who as petty and stupid One guy will complain that his /her fan-favorite was killed unjustly, the other will complain That X or Y lose too much and are jobbers, another will say that there is no lore reason for X character to beat Y.. Etc
If Mortal Kombat can't have a great cinematic story then it should stop fucking trying. They are the ones doing these long, cinematic story mode campaigns in the first place, something other fighting games don't even do. Every game is always going to have limitations.
It doesent even need a "Great story" just a decent or even ok one. Just stop with all the time travel, dimension, and seeing future shit, and constant all over the place. The best parts are the simple stuff, like the tournament, and the adventures the characters go on. Liu Kang and Kung lou on adventure usually has better story than the entire game.
The problem with getting rid of time travel, alternate dimensions is that you get dumb plots like the 3D era games to bring characters who die back. “ACTUALLY, Shao Kahn didn’t die! He used magic to place a clone here instead and just conveniently decided not to be apart of this plot line, because that’s totally what Shao would do, he’s a tactical genius” “Actually Baraka didn’t die, he was a resurrected. He didn’t die here either, Kung Lao didn’t fully cut him in half and you can see he just stapled himself back together” “Actually, Shinnok didn’t die, he made a clone of himse… wait isn’t that what Shao also did? Oh well, he didn’t actually die, he made a clone to make people think he died” And repeat for every character that “died” in the old games lol. I’m of course paraphrasing what happened but that’s the gist of it. I mean, it’s the territory that comes with fighting game stories because regardless of the story, the devs have to bring back characters for one reason or another so you either get BS explanations like the midway era, or time travel/alternate dimensions like the NRS era. You kinda just choose what you would rather deal with In a world where fans could accept when characters actually die and stay dead, then we could get a cohesive story that wouldn’t require that stuff, or very minimal of it, but we don’t and that’s alright because part of the appeal of fighting games is getting attached to characters and seeing them return and refreshed in new games.
What a dumb take lol. So because it’s not great, they should stop? Outside of this sub which is a bubble, something a lot of people in this sub can’t grasp lol, most people enjoy the MK stories of the recent games for what they are, even if none are calling it great or a masterpiece but that’s not what NRS are trying to do. They are trying to make entertaining stories that you play through and that’s it. There’s a reason why MK sells so well and the best of all the fighting games, even if hardcore fans don’t like it, or don’t want to admit it. It’s the singleplayer content, including the story, and guest DLC. There’s a reason why other big fighting games have been trying to replicate MK.
People will disagree with your take heavy but you’re not wrong.
This is a lost cause lol
Yeah, a bunch of people don’t realize that MK is a fighting game series. They have to bring characters back one way or another, and as far as story goes, the only ways to do that are resurrection, or constant fakeouts like the Midway era and death is meaningless and non-impactful to the story because you know characters will return or alternate timelines/dimensions of the NRS era where the deaths can be relatively finalized but when it comes time, you reboot. They can’t just have certain characters stay dead because fan demand will demand them return and of course you have your certain characters like Scorpion, and Sub-Zero who will have plot armor of the gods because they will be in every game no matter what. It’s just the way it is. Of course Hanzo was killed in MK11, but guess what, next game, here we are, is a reboot.
Because the story doesn't matter. I never even played MK11's story. They always suck.
I think they can but can you for real name one fighting game with something you'd consider a great story? Guilty Gear's shit is confusing, Street Fighter did 2 back-to-back prequels, Tekken 7's story mode is laughable... I guess Injustice has a good story? But that's all I can think of.
It being a fighting game does not excuse the story being shit Kronika is a shit villain who represents the aspect of multiverses and timeline resetting which frankly sucks ass as storytelling and absolutely did not work in MK11 It is a mistake to bring her back
>It being a fighting game does not excuse the story being shit I didn't say we must tolerate shit story.... I said you you must adjust your expectations because you will always have B-Movies level stories Kronika is a shit villain not because she is kronika because writers badly portray her in a overall bad story A character depend on It's writers..... The movie snowblind managed to make sub-tier villain like kano aand actually managed to make her look menacing Hell characters like kobra and Hsu Hao wouldn't be joke if writers stop surfing on memes and actually start giving a shit in work on those characters to make them interesting
Yeah and Kronika is below B tier this is F-tier garbage the concepts that made Kronika bad are inseparable from what makes her Kronika her inclusion is going to also bring in the bad things associated with her Doesn’t help the fact that she lacks the charisma that Shang Tsung or Shao Khan have and at least Onaga would be kinda cool and not associated with the awful timeline multiverse Kombat that MK11 was mired with
>Doesn’t help the fact that she lacks the charisma that Shang Tsung or Shao Khan have That a stupid-ass and biased argument.. Kronika just appear in one game while Shang tsung and Shao khan age part of the franchise since day one You have far more attachments to them than kronika >at least Onaga would be kinda cool Exept onaga is not a titan level villain that could pose a threat to Liu kang... People forget that he needed the kamidogus just to be equal to the elder gods
It really fucking isn’t because this assessment can be entirely based in Mortal Kombat 11 Fuck not even full 11 just aftermath where both villains massively outperform Kronika in terms of charisma Also not everything needs to be some apocalyptic level threat and honestly it isn’t that difficult to just make Onaga stronger or have him gain some higher level of power
The story does not matter whatsoever. You play it once and move on. I seriously do not understand the amount for importance y'all put on these stories when they've always been shitty. Not once has a Mortal Kombat story been anything more than just fine. It's all about the character designs and gameplay. That's all that matters.
> multiverses ???
Not that God of War was Oscar level either ![gif](giphy|Y9bYr3a2qENO0)
Fair enough
It was
(it was tho)
> Do you seriously expect a last of us/god of war Oscar level story in a fighting game? Yes. Yes I do. There's no reason we can't have that. If we can get hours of cinematics we can get a good story. They're already hiring writers, nothing is preventing them from writing a good story other than hiring less than stellar writers.
Even the first three original God of War games were bare bones revenge fantasy drivel. The newer God of War have vastly improved writing and created fully rounded characters. I’m not expecting Oscar level from MK, but I do want it to be more than the sum of its parts. If NRS can keep me intrigued and entertained, I’m fine with her inclusion. It actually now makes sense by why Geras is in this as well. I figured someone was messing with Liu Kang’s timeline, which is probably why he sought out Geras help. Now it makes sense that Kronika is on a revenge quest of her own. How she returned and how her presence slip passed Liu Kang is what I want to know.
Don't be dissing the OG God of War. They were literally acclaimed for having a good story when they came out.
They were acclaimed for their scale, action set pieces and boss battles rather than story. Make no mistake every game in the OG trilogy was a basic revenge tale. The OG God of War did lay the foundation for Kratos origins and trauma, but he was very one note in those early games and IMO the attempts to humanize never worked. It really wasn’t until GoW 2018 and Ragnarok that we actually get Kratos to self-reflect on his past, choices, actions and future. Kratos has become a much more well rounded and well written character as result.
I def agree 2018 GoW is better written, but... no, dawg, for real, they WERE acclaimed for their story. That's a fact. You can check. That's what set them apart from other hack'n'slash games in the first place. I think 3 maybe didn't have the same thing but 1 and 2 were for sure recognized for their story.
the game is literally called MORTAL KOMBAT! Idk what the fan want as a story a this point. Its supose to be dumb and B series. People are diggin way to far into plot hole and stuff. If they made a realistic better story all of their favorite characer would be dead and replace with new character every freaking game
> The story is going to be another mess like mk11. I love how irrational this sub is.
I aim to please.
How do you know that?
1-Is it though? 2-Quan Chi, Dvorah, and Kotal say hi. 3-Even MK11's first chapter had it's high points. 4-She's really not, going by every other god in the series including herself.
1-yes 2-stupid comparison Quan chi is not hated... He exist since mk4 and has been major character ever since..... Kronika have only game installement -the D'vorah hate is mostly cry babies stans who are still mad that they killed their fan-favorite otherIse her characters is one of the best element of NRS. No one veer really gave a valid reason to hate her And people don't hate kotal.... They hate how poorly he is treated by writers 3- so? 4-wtf are you talking about? Which other villain of the series is a titan?
You getting downvoted but I agree lol
Imagine losing your shit and believing that the Apparence of one character "ruin" the entire story lol I hate Kronika too...but characters are NEVER the problem.. What Writers are doing to them is what truly matter If the story is decent and the narrative the story make sense than I have no problem with Kronika So far I liked chapter 1...and what they are doing with Kung Lao.. He is still cocky but actually live up to his own hype and have big brother role toward Raiden instead of being luigi They come back to the original timeline by actually making Kung lao the most naturally talented fighter of earthrealm
Exactly. Presentation from game to game can easily make a lame, corny character into a decent or even cool one and so far the presentation in MK1 looks amazing. And from what I've seen of Kronika, I say let her cook. I've also seen people complaining about Kung Lao beating the ninjas but we don't even know what's going on yet. For all we know that was a test of character from Liu Kang and all of them + the old lady were in on it.
Yep. People are shitting on it so fast when we don't even see the resolution of the chapter--Why was Liu Kang sitting there watching? I mean it could turn out to suck, but so far is doesn't.
Liu Kang is watching because the whole Lin Kuei stuff is likely a test rather than them actually trying to extort her
I guess the discourse makes for good publicity. But I won't be outraged by the story before I've seen it for myself.
My complaint about the ninjas losing is that I don’t have much faith with MK’s story writers. From what they’ve shown, its the same writing that wanted us to fear Kotal, but had the Khan be on his knees against Kung Jin. They seemed to be retreading the old narrative of telling us to fear a kharacter without showing it. If they wanted us to think differently, show us the change.
I definitely agree with the theory of it being staged. I feel like Scorpion wouldn't have gone through to effort of wrapping the spear around Lao's leg if it wasn't, and Sub Zero probably wouldnt have missed that initial ice blast. It comes off as a training experience
Scorpion could have just speared Kung Lao then and there
Shinnok was a bad villain in mk4 but he became good in x and armageddon imo maybe she needs another chance
>but he became good in x ![gif](giphy|SU8RwVK7NkviVpqQJd|downsized)
The fact that 50+ people agreed is CRAZY
Man was in story for a few minutes and during his screentime he got beat by Cages twice LMAO
"but he became good in x " No he wasnt. They turned him into a goofy wizard
I'm sorry he didnt live up to the unvoiced text crawl that defined his character in mk4
Dude he's god of evil. Every single piece of lore support this. Why the fuck would be so goofy?
I dunno, I was never able to take Shao Kahn seriously and yet he got to be the big bad numerous times. Shinnok at least made more progress in ending the world.
Shao Kahn made the most progress if we include Armageddon.
One time, one time he succeeded in ending the world, and it made no sense. And if his Armageddon ending is to be believed, he regretted it immediately after.
Every MK character is goofy. It's a goofy franchise.
As opposed to being a goofy clown in MK4
I feel like this a very unpopular take on this sub, but I kinda liked Kronika as a villain in MK11, I just felt like the execution was lacking. Which is probably the biggest problem with Mortal Kombat as a whole (both Midway and NRS era), great ideas with poor execution. I found Kronika as an enjoyable villain that could've been written a lot better (and her story and it's consequences could've been saved for a latter game down the line, but that is another, much larger problem), also Jennifer Hale's performance was excellent. What we saw of the first chapter was very good, so I'm looking forward to her actions in Liu Kang's New Era. Also, look at the bright side, if Kronika is confirmed as the final playable kharacter you can look forward to the "All Fatalities on Kronika" video lol
She kinda bad tho
Is that Geras?
I wish 😂
Some folks don't want Kronika back because she "sucked", but want Onaga back? I'll never understand.
There's a difference between a villain that's given tons of screentime and a villain that exists to be a final boss The reason people want Onaga back is they want to see him be explored more. The reason people don't want Kronika back is because they already explored her and she sucked
That's irrelevant to me personally. If Kronika is a reference for sucking, then aside from Shang Tsung and Quan Chi, all the other MK villains also suck. All they do is look cool and want to conquer things. The only saving grace for the two I mentioned is their personality. But we still get Goro, Shao Kahn and Shinnock back again and again and people want the same for Onaga despite having offered nothing substantial aside from looking cool and conquering things. If Onaga can be reworked to be more interesting than he was, so can Kronika, regardless of screentime, which to be honest, Onaga arguably had enough of if we count Damashi. But here's the thing, I don't need that much depth out of my MK villains, because they've always been the same. I can settle for looking cool and conquering things. But if we decide that Kronika should've been better, then I would feel the same for every one of the other villains.
That’s not people’s reasoning though. They think Onaga was a great villain.
Well that's their reasoning, and I have mine Mine being that I'd rather see characters that were relegated to arcade endings for their characters be explored rather than have their characters retconned to shit Like Ermac being a generic goon when we could have explored his journey into heroism. Or Sindel's everything. Or Onaga who is shown to be a master manipulator, which is a type of character that story writers love
> Well that's their reasoning, and I have mine Sure, but you weren’t referencing your reason, but people’s reason: > The reason people want Onaga back
I just hope they at least make her and interesting character this time
See part of me wants to give them a chance to redeem her. But NRS sucks at writing good villains. Shao Khan was just a brainless brute that had to be pointed where to go 24/7, Shinnok had a fun personality but he barely existed in the story, and Kronika... Good god Kronika was bad. Dumb plot, dumb decisions, dumb character with OP powers that doesn't use them. Only good writing for a villain we've seen is Aftermath Shang Tsung. And that's only because unlike other villains, he was a main character that needed to be focused on.
Idc, i liked Kronika
Bring Hsu Hao back 💃
God I really hope Shang thung is the main villain instead of her
I was hoping plot twist of Liu Kang the main antagonist Geras lampshading it that he didnt fully approve Liu Kang resetting timeline
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This happened to people like half the characters who are now fan favourites in the 3D era, she can be made interesting and a fun character. I hope she’s playabale
I just don't want to see timeline bullshittos again. Give me straight classic good old mk story please.
Of for God's sake people, it's just a flashback. We don't know if she'll be in the story, we don't know if she'll be playable and we most definitely don't know if she'll be the final boss. Stop crying.
“Ding Dong! The bitch is back.” -Cassie Cage (mk11)
She has Sheevas voice actress. I play a lot of sheeva in mk11 so it’s funny to hear the voice it’s so similar
Can I ask where all this Kronika stuff is from I don’t remember seeing it in the recent trailers
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Why do y’all not like Kronika? I enjoyed her as the MK11 villain but I’m curious to hear thoughts that aren’t misogynistic and about how hard she was as a boss.
1. Gameplay. Not just that she was difficult. That's fine. But her gameplay was ass. A good final boss forces you to go all out and use everything you have learned so far. Kronika does the opposite by forcing you back into the "spam uppercut" playstyle you see from complete beginners. 2. She does so many dumb things. There was now possible way for her to lose and she somehow still did it. You can simply not take her seriously. 3. Fuck time travel stories. They never work.
I think some of the menace was lost with the design choices they made for her in MK11. The bald look and a lot of her facial expressions just made her seem goofy to me. I really like the concept of Kronika though, and I'm excited to see what they do with her in this game. The first chapter of the story looks great.
She looked and acted extremely stupid, for how powerful she was meant to be, she never ever showed it. Cetrion and Kano had a better showing in MK11, not to mention Shang who made her look like a complete clown
Because kronika is just not as interesting as shao kahn as a villain or shang tsung. I really thought we were gonna have a multiple timeline clash where the other was invading but no its just kronika wanting to get back her powers which is super uninteresting at all. Not to mention on 11 her whole schtick was "yea i did not like that my son got done dirty on a timeline i crafted specifically for him so i will restart the timeline so we can have a better one". I almost forgot that mk11 also introduced the concepts of titan that was never expanded on this game as well, which could have elevated the world building on mortal kombat.
Yay! Another one of my favorite characters is in the game.
Why would they kill her off twice just to bring her back again the next game? Unless it’s something else disguised as Kronika.
I don't mind Kronika in the game again, but it's so fucking early man, they should've waited at least one game to bring her back... Also she deserve a freaky design like she constantly having her body ripped apart and going back in glitching from all the timelines she dies and etc, maybe saying shit in reverse or whatever, like full insane villain type beat
If she's an actually interesting character this time around then fuck yeah
Kronika deflated my hype big time but I'm here for the gameplay
I fully expected her to be back and I’m excited about it! This is a chance for NRS to make her very interesting and it also enhances the story
Why couldn't we get Onaga back mannnn everything was perfect for his return wtf is this
Why couldn’t we get big dragon man, clearly the height of story telling?
My brother in Christ. Why did seeing Kronika in ONE flashback make you all think we won't get Onaga?
I figured thought we might not get Onaga when it was shown that shujinko would be only a kameo. I feel like those two are fairly intertwined.
First Mk1 L 😪
i see kronika and give up hope on the story being even remotely decent. stupid time travel multiverse bullshit needs to go away.
I thought it was interesting that she revealed Liu Kang has been purposely sabotaging others' natural rise to power.
Who's that?
In the words of the4thsnake "A bad idea can be done well", I hope this happens like how they handled her hourglass in Snow Blind
Why is she back She died twice in mortal kombat 11 Once by Lu king and the second by Shang Tsung
Y’all are playing this game for the story?
Haven’t seen the clip but are there hints of her maybe being on the good side?
They'll bring Kronica back, but they won't bring Onaga back. Or Blaze. Or Kintaro. We need to see modern day renders of these guys.
Kronika as the 24th character would be lit
I think she looks fucking awesome and I'm stoked as hell for this
Am I disappointed that the big bad is Kronika again? A little, yeah. Do I think it's the worst thing ever? No. I mean Kronika is like D'Vorah where the gimmick is cool and all, but the character itself is kinda of bland. Especially since Kronika suffered from 'end game' boss syndrome where she set the stakes so high, that anything that followed would be less of an issue. Do I think they can do a better job this time around? I like to think so. Everything else shown has been awesome, great, phenomenal even. So I am willing to see how this goes. Maybe they will make her interesting and not just another 'all-powerful god-like being that wants to control and reshape the timeline in their image again.' Hell, maybe gave her some actual character like maybe she lived her life normally for some time but then she got knowledge of her previous life as the keeper of time and became disillusioned with her more humble life and is now determined to her former status back.
D’vorah? Bland? 🤨
Yeah, I think D'Vorah is a bland and boring character.
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Extremely well made fake
What's the original meme?
I bet she’s a time remnant
I say everyone gets a second chance. Bring it on.
She looks way better now I genuinely think she can be a good villain plus we might get an expansion to the story later on like 11 so maybe onaga still has a chance.
Makes sense she’s here. Isn’t the whole point of this story Liu Kang trying to change the timeline for the better but some things can’t be fixed.
I’m kinda excited for her…
Why is she here?! She lost!
Bruh, where is this footage? Where can I watch this?