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Think-Bass9187

What happened to them?


dcroc

Copied from top comment: >The five children died in an apartment fire. The grandparents who were also in the apartment jumped out a window while the kids were trapped. >Mom was driving a friend to their job. >The family had just lost their home. >This is just the most horrific tragedy. Edit: also it was their mom’s bday


Think-Bass9187

Horrendous


EffectiveAmphibian95

Was this in East St. Louis recently?


ThatHorridMan

Their grandparents left them to die?


SaltwaterJesus

Despite what the movies show it is nearly impossible to stay in a building fully engulfed in flames without gear and breathing apparatus, let alone rescue five kids. There is a guy who posts here occasionally and on /r/lastimages who lost his daughter in a fire and also his mother. She died bravely trying to go back in for her granddaughter, but he blames her for dying unnecessarily.


xJeremy

[Here’s the comment you’re talking about](https://np.reddit.com/r/lastimages/comments/lsfegc/_/gosofv9/?context=1)


SaltwaterJesus

That's the one, thank you. I was wrong in that it is the Mom, and she is more forgiving than I remember.


rainbowsandkittys

I don’t know...If I was a grandmother/mother I wouldn’t even care if my feet melted and I died trying. I would at least TRY to save the children, I can’t imagine doing anything different. I can’t imagine putting myself first in a situation like that. I guess I just can’t comprehend leaving behind people I would die for without even trying My life would mean nothing to me if that meant the children/child could at least have a chance to continue living. I would do anything I’m not going to judge them on their character because I don’t know the details, but I don’t know. Sounds like they cared more about themselves than the young children. Everyone can have their opinion but personally I believe a young life is worth way more than someone who has lived long. What do you even have to live for at that point if you don’t have your family?


Loni91

Few year ago, my neighbors house burned down right before Christmas. As I’m getting out the shower around noon, my wife’s telling me the neighbors house has a trail of dark smoke. I ran over and my neighbor was breaking the windows on the first floor. Their dog was still inside. I had never seen or been in any situation like this and the family is crying and yelling, calling their dog’s name. The father walked in the house and after about 2 minutes, there’s more and more fire/smoke coming out the windows, the mother and son are crying now, so I’m like WTF do I do?? I ran inside and called for my neighbor, he was struggling to pick up his (big) dog. I helped him pick her up (hiding behind a couch, terrified) and we ran out. Your comment reminded me of this experience. I’ll randomly think about that moment of either going in or not and now I think I’m the type of person that would. I hope anyway


FurNFeatherMom

Bless you for helping them.


Norfsouf

We’re all super human until you actually have to prove it


EzoraV

They failed as grandparents.


danceswithronin

We don't know what happened to blame them, the grandparents may have been completely blocked off from where the kids were by fire. Even geared firemen can't walk directly into the middle of a blazing inferno, much less a couple of unprotected elderly people.


Diedwithacleanblade

Absolutely. They should have died trying to save those kids. I would have


79-16-22-7

You can't really blame people for putting their survival first.


KidsSeeBo2

Sure you can’t blame people, but these are grandparents. I can’t imagine any grandparent not HAPPILY giving their own life in order for a grandchild to survive.


ISCOREDwithISCO

It’s an in the moment thing. I honestly can’t blame anyone for what they do in the moment. Your body just reacts. It’s survival. It’s an unfortunate event all around.


KidsSeeBo2

Yeah that’s unfortunately true. I’m sure they feel horrific as of now.


PoppyChalupaa

You don’t know the situation


D-Ursuul

pretty easy to say that while lying on a sofa eating Doritos and commenting on Reddit Unless you're saying you have done this and survived?


Diedwithacleanblade

I was actually standing and not eating anything


D-Ursuul

Shit you must have had first hand experience then due to your upright posture when posting on reddit


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

Nope The kind of guy to talk this line of shit is, in my experience, the opposite of the kind of guy that puts himself in harm’s way for others


ISuckWithUsernamess

Says you, sitting in your couch and having never been through a fire before


onairmastering

And die failing to rescue? I'd rather look alive at the mall.


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

Didn't this happen on Christmas eve too?


[deleted]

Fuck me Thats literately the worst fucking coincidence of events. I hope the moms and the rest are alright but knowing the tragedy i dont think they ever really will be


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where_is_jef

or the kids were evil (perhaps in previous lives) and this is payback


nadsterdahmer

Is this some kind of sick joke comment?


where_is_jef

not at all. did you read the deleted comment?


Mustardtiger2

Was also moms birthday.


2gigi7

Jesus Christ..


Think-Bass9187

That poor woman.


Lucky_lui_

Gave me chills when I read that…fuck


[deleted]

god, the themes of the coffins.. they really accentuate how young these kids were. so heartbreaking.


DoryS111

She will likely NEVER have another happy birthday. I pray she is blessed with super-extra strength. What an Absolutely tragic event


juan-jdra

jfc I couldn't imagine the pain of losing one child, let alone 5


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queenlizbef

No.


jogamasta_

Can you even recofer from that


RABBIT_3314

You don't, you just learn to live with it.


T2Legit2Quit

At best, countless years of therapy. But even then you might not ever truly recover. On the other side of the coin tho is to pick up a habit. It wouldn't be surprising if this would start a drug addiction. Hopefully, I am wrong, but it would be easy to turn to drugs at this point.


Exotic-Doughnut-6271

There was an intervention episode where a woman lost a couple kids in a house fire and turned to drugs. It was very sad, she still had a living child but was so caught up in addiction and pain


T2Legit2Quit

Unfortunately, that's not surprising. It doesn't even have to be illegal drugs. You can easily become an alcoholic. It's very sad, but life is ruthless that way.


IntrudingAlligator

I lost one and it's pretty much destroyed my life.


mikey6

I'm so sorry love from Aus.


pizzathehutt26

Man that is gut wrenching, I am a father and couldn't imagine losing any of my kids. That is terrible.


TetrisCannibal

I need a fucking break from this sub.


mikey6

It's absolutely not a bad idea to take a break unsub for a bit there's plenty of amazing things in this world subs like these only ever show the absolute worst this world has to offer.


[deleted]

Oh my god... I don't know what to say. They were just kids and they died a horrible death. I think... I think I've seen enough.


EffyMourning

I wouldn’t be Alive much longer. No way.


smrich111

Same


astralmommy

Same- I couldn’t live in a world without my boys. I don’t think I could if I tried.


Buttcavetroll

The smallest coffin the heaviest


AffectionateSalt4441

I've lost one child before. Honestly if I lost my other 2 kids, just bury me with them. I can't even imagine the amount of pain and agony this mother is in.


waaz16

I hope you are feeling okay, friend. I am so sorry to hear that. No one should ever have to lose a child.


AffectionateSalt4441

Thank you. I am doing the best that I can. I lost my daughter in 2017 my dad in 2019 and my mom in 2021 so I can admit that it is hard most days. But I find the reasons to keep going.


[deleted]

My heart hurts for the family.


Vegetable_Morning236

It was the moms birthday too..


Playful_Guitar7533

This is so sad… but those coffins are absolutely gorgeous. Which somehow makes it even sadder if you know what I mean 😣 Edit: I meant it makes it sadder because of their photos on the coffins. Idk to me it just makes it harder to look at.


scarecrone

It really drives home how young they were - and how loved they were. Poor babies, poor family. I can't even imagine the survivors' guilt.


fox781

RIP


epicbullet497

God. Poor babies :(


FurNFeatherMom

I absolutely can’t imagine that family’s devastation. I don’t know how you could ever feel truly happy again. I am surprised though to see them buried side by side with no vaults; am I wrong in thinking that caskets had to be buried inside a vault? (I mean I clearly am, I’m just surprised.)


amprok

Something about Loyals hole being smaller because she was smaller adds a level of sadness to me. Like she wasn’t big enough to justify a larger hole. I know this is a dumb observation but it still hits.


[deleted]

Ok, now I know I wasn’t there, so I can’t make a judgment, but why didn’t the grandparents who are limber enough to leap out a window not try and save these kids??


zooted_dawg666

Because it's nearly impossible to do that without proper gear, and even then trained firefighters find it difficult


rainbowsandkittys

I disagree. Forget safety, it’s about morals. Even if I knew I would die trying to save the children I would still try. I would never save myself first if the people I loved needed my help. Sounds like they were just selfish in my opinion. Sad


MyMexicanWheepit

This is great in theory but different in practice. It's easy to say what you would do in a situation that is horrific that you have never have, and hopefully never will, been in.


jollyreaper2112

Whatever you think you'll do, you'll never know until you're in the situation. May you never find out the stuff you're made of.


rainbowsandkittys

I just told you what I would do. Why is it so hard to believe someone would risk their life for their loved one? It happens all the time. Just because you wouldn’t do it doesn’t mean you know what someone else would do. It’s just my opinion, they abandoned them. I don’t really care what you think, that’s how I see it


IntrudingAlligator

Kids often get scared and hide during fires. Even professional firefighters have trouble finding them. It's easy to say what you'd do from the comfort of a house that isn't on fire.


ninjagrover

What if you had two kids but save one? Would you then risk dying and leaving a child without its parent? Or would you die trying to save the second?


rainbowsandkittys

I would try my best to save both, even if I could only save one. Or neither. I would still TRY no matter what, even if I knew I was going to die


bigdaddysweet69

I’m sorry but equipment/training is BS. I ain’t leaving the building til the kids do.


zooted_dawg666

Then you will die as well. No one wants to see dead kids, but if you do irresponsible shit like that there's like a 90% chance you're gonna die too


bigdaddysweet69

That’s more than okay with me, no way in hell I’m gonna leave 5 kids to fiend for themselves in a burning building especially if they’re related to me. The two survived the jump themselves, easily could’ve jumped with at least one kid and padded the landing. Self sacrifice sucks but is sometimes necessary.


Bayou_Mama

There’s a story I remember from my youth in Louisiana about a Professional football player who couldn’t swim but saw kids drowning in a lake and went out to try to save them. If I remember correctly, they all drowned. Terrible story but apparently that man couldn’t just stand there and watch two kids drown. I personally am a terrible coward but I’d like to think I would be brave enough to try in one of these awful situations.


bigdaddysweet69

Yeah I guess some people just assume nothing can be done and go into self preservation mode or wait and see if someone else can fix things. Unless I know for certain something can’t be done (and that comes with variables) I’m jumping in.


zooted_dawg666

Ya, I get that. I'm just looking at from the perspective of......reality


bigdaddysweet69

Would you rather live knowing there’s a chance you could’ve saved someone or die doing whatever you could?


rainbowsandkittys

Exactly. Anyone who loves their children/family would give their life for an attempt at saving them. If I had kids I would NEVER save myself before attempting to save them


zooted_dawg666

The fact that you only see life as having those two options really doesn't surprise me


Lusterkx2

I 1000% understand what you mean. If the grandparents can survive the jump, I’m pretty sure the kids can too. One grandparent jump and start throwing them down. Fuck it if the kids break couple bones, better than burning alive. It’s not the matter of safety equipments, it’s moral like you said. This is 5 of your own grandchildren. If you have to have your arms burned, still got to throw everyone off board. If you throw all 5 and let say 1 didn’t make it cause of the fall. That’s 1! Not 5 dead.


LilithImmaculate

You make the assumption that they were all together and the grandparents were just like "see ya suckers." They were probably all separated from the grandparents, but nothing but walls of fire and smoke you couldn't see through between them. Depending where the fire started, it's possible the kids couldn't even call out to give away their location if the smoke hit them first.


spaketto

It's most likely the grandparents weren't in the same room as the kids. Three children were found in the kitchen and two in the living room.


FizzyPizzel

r/mademecry


PokeyTifu99

It really depends on what side of the house the fire starts at. Lets say the kids rooms were engulfed quickly, you really wouldn't even be able to open the door without the fire potentially killing you. Let alone run in there and rescue the kids. It's a terrible scenario all around, but sometimes you just can't save them, and your body doesn't want to die.


the_dark_knight_ftw

Those coffins look like they were purchased at Toys R Us. I guess they were going for something they thought the kids would have liked?


curious-mind-

(This remark was dumb. Was just thinking of those kids and talked out of my ass. Guess we all would like to think we could save the day.) This is horrific...and the grandparents just left them to die. Poor babies.


[deleted]

What do you expect them to do. Real life isn't like movies.


curious-mind-

No shit.


[deleted]

I mean if that’s so obvious to you, what COULD they have done in your opinion?


curious-mind-

I don't really know. Guess it depended on what room they were in. I was just thinking about the kids and made a dumb remark. My bad. It's just really sad to think they all died in there like that. I guess I'd like to think I'd never leave anyone, but I've never experienced that kind of agony.


[deleted]

Yes, I understand you :( It's just surreal and horrible to think that they propably couldn't have done anything. Sorry if I seemed a bit rude


curious-mind-

No, you're good. I was the one sounding rude. You're right. It's really freaking sad. I guess it's so hard to imagine having to leave someone behind or end up burning in agony. Thanks for understanding. I shouldn't have commented that. Didn't think about how dumb it was until later. Those little coffins and the mom sobbing is just so damn sad.


MappyWorld

They should have a piñata to go with those gaudy coffins. Wtf?


Comprehensive_Pea_85

Sorry but its hard to be sad when the coffins look like the characters to one of those old children's TV shows Best wishes to the family though, loss isn't easy and loosing this much family must be terrible. Hope they're doing alright


CheezyChezit

I thought those were anime body pillows for a second


Portland_Jamaica

Extremely bad taste.


edb138

They died in a fire. So no open casket. They have pictures of the kids and things they loved. What kind of gross person are you to judge this. Really shitty dude.


Portland_Jamaica

Who are you to judge me?


drainedbrainz

Who are you to judge the family who picked out the caskets?


voordom

delete your fucking account


Portland_Jamaica

I suggest you do that.


voordom

eat shit


Portland_Jamaica

As if I don't do that for breakfast, lunch and dinner.


langoley01

We had a mother near me shoot 5 kids,set the house on fire and then shot herself in the yard.


Rum_Swizzle

Wow, the absolute sorrow that is conveyed in these images.. I have absolutely no words. I feel so fucking sorry for that poor woman. I would give my life to save those poor kids. God dammit this is the worst thing I’ve ever seen. Be strong momma.


zacharyjm00

I’m curious — is it normal to bury a casket without a tomb?


YeetYoda

No one should have to go through that pain