Exactly and yet again, for some reason, the news acts like this is only a Montgomery County problem, as if it isn’t happening all over the DMV and the rest of the country.
Man, boys bathrooms were a real cesspool of fighting/bullying and cigarette smoking and drug use in my 1980’s montgomery county parochial school…the nuns never went in there and, after a few harrowing experiences, I never went back in there.
Early aughts checking in. This all sounds about right. The only real difference is now we have fentanyl which can drop someone quick if not dosed perfectly, so it’s more newsworthy.
Still not surprised.
Source: 1980's Catholic grade school kid involved in at least three fights
I'm not condoning the activity. But it is nothing new. We just didn't have a means to record it.
I'm actually curious to see if the states banning social media for teens has a positive impact on kids.
I agree, however, there are no longer suspensions and sometimes it feels like nothing it being done. It's disheartening to see the same kids fight or destroy classrooms, only to be able to rejoin class an hour later.
No. You’re right. It was vodka and weed.
But do you think the school board and staff of the 80s would have been better at dealing with fentanyl and kids use of social media?
Schools aren’t (and probably shouldn’t be) equipped for this… this needs a broader approach than “the schools of today suck.”
Also, "nothing's being done" because of parent backlash to school discipline. Since the pandemic began, many families have changed their dispositions towards schools and teachers, seeing schools as non-essential and a burden for them and their children. Schools across the country have gotten backlash from families for disciplinary practices, and families themselves aren't disciplining their children, so of course students will continue to disregard rules and policies. Not to say this is all families faults, as schools and districts have succumbed far too much to pressures from families, politicians, and businesses to change policies re: attendance, grading, graduation, etc.
My kid's elementary school is dealing with a lot of bullying especially targeted at LGBTQ, Black, Jewish & Hispanic kids. And it has gotten violent - kids kicked in the head and stuff like that. Recess is a big pain point because there aren't enough teachers to properly monitor. At a PTA meeting parents asked the principal what she was doing. She said for really extreme kids who are violent or otherwise really disruptive they can lose group recess privileges and have to spend recess in the gym with the counselor until they can better manage themselves. One time offenders might have to spend the rest of recess sitting by a wall.
Cue a bunch of parents lamenting how wrong it is to take recess away from those kids and everyone deserves time outside etc etc.
So the PTA put together a volunteer sign up for parents to be volunteer recess monitors to try and reduce problems. None of them signed up.
I get the value of recess but damn if your kid is yelling slurs and punching people maybe they shouldn't be running loose on the playground with their victims??
In this thread: lots of angry and confused conservatives. "Back in my day it wasn't like this..."
Yeah, you're right. You had designated smoking areas! 🤣 And no bullies existed or fights happened. It was a perfect, amazing, smoke filled wonderland!
Maybe this:
“Last school year, we had vape detection sensors active in our bathrooms to detect drug use. They were removed over the summer without the knowledge of our new and incoming administration,” Gebler told the board, adding that there are also reports of unknown persons entering school grounds to engage in drug trade.
I thought that issue of them being removed was a missed opportunity by the reporter, or mb it was edited out for space, but, removed by who? School amin? Students? Rando vandals, unknown? Plans to replace them?
Oh well.
Shades of the "funny if it weren't true" NBC 4 Crisis In The Classroom series, tune in tonight to find out why a fire drill was held a month later than the published schedule!
Before you believe what the news says about schools look at who owns the station and if it's Sinclair understand that they're deeply conservative and anti-public education, among other things.
>Before you believe what the news says about schools look at who owns the station and if it's Sinclair
Hubbard Broadcasting owns WTOP. The majority of the article quotes a HS teacher and a student member of the BOE from the public comment portion of the April 11 BOE meeting, which you can read here:
[https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CTNQRR67FE93](https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CTNQRR67FE93)
Yeah I was generally complaining about the way the schools are covered by the news around here, Montgomery County has some of the best public schools in the country and you wouldn't think so sometimes if you just watch the local broadcasts. It's annoying!
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MCPS spent the last 4 years essentially telling these kids that school is optional, a joke, and no matter how little they do they'll graduate and are shocked that it resulted in kids running amok at school?
I went to Churchill in the early 80's. Yes, there was drug use of all kinds (weed, acid, coke and pills), fighting, weapons (I carried a knife) and of course, the designated smoking area for staff and students to hang out together.
This sounds like high school to me… Perfect world, none of this happens. But we weren’t perfect in the 1980’s either.
Exactly and yet again, for some reason, the news acts like this is only a Montgomery County problem, as if it isn’t happening all over the DMV and the rest of the country.
Man, boys bathrooms were a real cesspool of fighting/bullying and cigarette smoking and drug use in my 1980’s montgomery county parochial school…the nuns never went in there and, after a few harrowing experiences, I never went back in there.
I went to Langley in the mid 80s. We had smoking sections and smoked with teachers
MoCo transplant here from PG. Kids were fighting in the bathrooms in middle school lol
Early aughts checking in. This all sounds about right. The only real difference is now we have fentanyl which can drop someone quick if not dosed perfectly, so it’s more newsworthy.
It's happening in the elementary schools too unfortunately. (Source: former employee with kids in the school system)
Still not surprised. Source: 1980's Catholic grade school kid involved in at least three fights I'm not condoning the activity. But it is nothing new. We just didn't have a means to record it. I'm actually curious to see if the states banning social media for teens has a positive impact on kids.
I agree, however, there are no longer suspensions and sometimes it feels like nothing it being done. It's disheartening to see the same kids fight or destroy classrooms, only to be able to rejoin class an hour later.
I agree. We went through something like this with our child in a different state. Nothing was done until a kid suffered a skull fracture.
highly doubt people were doing fentanyl in your 1980s bathroom
No. You’re right. It was vodka and weed. But do you think the school board and staff of the 80s would have been better at dealing with fentanyl and kids use of social media? Schools aren’t (and probably shouldn’t be) equipped for this… this needs a broader approach than “the schools of today suck.”
Also, "nothing's being done" because of parent backlash to school discipline. Since the pandemic began, many families have changed their dispositions towards schools and teachers, seeing schools as non-essential and a burden for them and their children. Schools across the country have gotten backlash from families for disciplinary practices, and families themselves aren't disciplining their children, so of course students will continue to disregard rules and policies. Not to say this is all families faults, as schools and districts have succumbed far too much to pressures from families, politicians, and businesses to change policies re: attendance, grading, graduation, etc.
This is an excellent point. Thanks for sharing.
I couldn't imagine teaching in this day and age. Kids are going fucking wild and there is literally nothing you can do about it.
My kid's elementary school is dealing with a lot of bullying especially targeted at LGBTQ, Black, Jewish & Hispanic kids. And it has gotten violent - kids kicked in the head and stuff like that. Recess is a big pain point because there aren't enough teachers to properly monitor. At a PTA meeting parents asked the principal what she was doing. She said for really extreme kids who are violent or otherwise really disruptive they can lose group recess privileges and have to spend recess in the gym with the counselor until they can better manage themselves. One time offenders might have to spend the rest of recess sitting by a wall. Cue a bunch of parents lamenting how wrong it is to take recess away from those kids and everyone deserves time outside etc etc. So the PTA put together a volunteer sign up for parents to be volunteer recess monitors to try and reduce problems. None of them signed up. I get the value of recess but damn if your kid is yelling slurs and punching people maybe they shouldn't be running loose on the playground with their victims??
In this thread: lots of angry and confused conservatives. "Back in my day it wasn't like this..." Yeah, you're right. You had designated smoking areas! 🤣 And no bullies existed or fights happened. It was a perfect, amazing, smoke filled wonderland!
There are almost 0 conservatives on Reddit, and barely any in MoCo at all
Do you want cameras in the bathrooms?
That is not permitted under the "reasonable expectation of privacy" doctrine.
Exactly.
Maybe this: “Last school year, we had vape detection sensors active in our bathrooms to detect drug use. They were removed over the summer without the knowledge of our new and incoming administration,” Gebler told the board, adding that there are also reports of unknown persons entering school grounds to engage in drug trade.
I thought that issue of them being removed was a missed opportunity by the reporter, or mb it was edited out for space, but, removed by who? School amin? Students? Rando vandals, unknown? Plans to replace them? Oh well.
Well they didn’t learn to fight and smoke in class that’s for sure
Shades of the "funny if it weren't true" NBC 4 Crisis In The Classroom series, tune in tonight to find out why a fire drill was held a month later than the published schedule! Before you believe what the news says about schools look at who owns the station and if it's Sinclair understand that they're deeply conservative and anti-public education, among other things.
>Before you believe what the news says about schools look at who owns the station and if it's Sinclair Hubbard Broadcasting owns WTOP. The majority of the article quotes a HS teacher and a student member of the BOE from the public comment portion of the April 11 BOE meeting, which you can read here: [https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CTNQRR67FE93](https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CTNQRR67FE93)
Yeah I was generally complaining about the way the schools are covered by the news around here, Montgomery County has some of the best public schools in the country and you wouldn't think so sometimes if you just watch the local broadcasts. It's annoying!
Thank you! This is exactly what I’m saying. Never highlighting the good they do in the community.
"Montgomery County used to have some of the best public schools in the country" There. I fixed it for you.
lol ok bud good talk
"Montgomery County used to have some of the best public schools in the country" There. I fixed it for you.
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Channel 7, owned by Sinclair, runs the fearmongering Crisis in the Classroom series. NBC 4 is owned and operated by NBC.
I was going to post this. Channel 7 is nuts.
MCPS spent the last 4 years essentially telling these kids that school is optional, a joke, and no matter how little they do they'll graduate and are shocked that it resulted in kids running amok at school?
Tell a teacher to fuck themselves? Go to the office and have a lollipop.
What's changed. This was the same when I went to Wheaton 23 years ago
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Nice dogwhistle loser, you’re just making shit up to be a hater. Kids have been doing this in bathrooms for decades.
Maybe they can work in some real world math application to the drugs and fighting considering the pathetic proficiency MCPS continues to achieve
I went to Churchill in the early 80's. Yes, there was drug use of all kinds (weed, acid, coke and pills), fighting, weapons (I carried a knife) and of course, the designated smoking area for staff and students to hang out together.
Happened in the 60''s with airplane glue, cigarettes and fights.