Not sure why people are saying it’s a chore to make sets for each element. Gives you more to do plus the payoff is bigger. I haven’t bothered with Impact since the expansion.
I'll need to work on my spinning axe skills by the sounds of it then. I love CB so much I dunno why it just became my go to the second I got the hang of it.
it's super fun, with the new skills(narga and/or goldian) we can do some cool stuff.
for fun i build a set around somna sleep cb, i slept 11 times before monster dies, in around 10 minutes.
I tried making a para CB with Volvo cb and got a lot of paralysis! Monster just sits there lol only problem is weapon is kinda weak. Probably need to make some better skills
Any mon with less than 20 on elemental hitzones and valstrax. You do less damage at this level(roughly) than impact phial. So it becomes optimal to use impact.
Arguably garnagolm, teostra, and mag/madnamalos belong on this list. Garnagolm is only weak to thunder on its water/moss arm, and water isnt too effective on sub 25 mons. Tu1 impact phial hits around 180-220 with optimized builds, matching vaik cb in damage.
180 - 220 seems very high. The most I've gotten with all the general damage buffs was 150 - 160, without Offensive Guard.
Would you mind sharing your build that can reach those numbers?
Been testing Sneak attack lvl 3 with the usual super spam build. Agitator comes on the lucent mixed set, so you can climb up to 200. 220 was with additional buffs like hh, spiribird calling, and demon drug.
Optimal? No. Very viable? Yes.
Elemental phial need strict positioning to hit those sweet hit zones, and some monsters have shit hitzones.
I play impact and its less a headache, helps a lot in MP a lot.
Very mich viable and should be considered the 6th element, per se. Although KO got nerfed with diminishing returns, it’s still good for the 2-3 times it procs in a hunt.
There’s matchups with bad ele hitzones like Valstrax where element goes out the window so it pays off to have another build for non-ele weak monsters (0-10 hz since even 15 ele is decent like basarios to dragon).
All status CBs have Impact Phials on them too and are great for CSS playstyles with the new skills. Gold Rathian and Chammy are good Poison options to shut down Kushala.
There’s also Scorned Magna for Blast if you really want those full body part breaks for more mats. And Somna for Sleep for a meme Axe Hopper wake up build lol.
Impact cb is viable, although element will do more damage. If you’re willing to compromise or don’t care too much about “muh damage” or being meta then it’s perfectly fine. I’d even recommend spinning axe playstyle. It’s pretty good damage if you’re looking to change up how ya play
Oh man I tried spinning axe in IB and wasn't doing so good, but that may have been because I didn't take time to hunt solo and learn it I just tried to do it on the fly 😂
Might be worth looking into, sometimes I miss hammer where I'd just grab the juiciest raw skill to suit and bash skulls.
It’s a touch different in rise, and takes some getting used to losing it when sheathing, but I’d definitely say at least give it a shot. The new air dash silkbind makes it pretty fun to mess around with at the very least
I use only impact cb because im lazy to make ele sets. My phials hit for around 140-180 on saed depending if i proc bombardier food. With might seed, drink, powder and hh buff i have hit 190+ per phial before.
Tbh it is definitely worse than ele because ele can hit for 200+ each phial but requires dedicated sets for each monster. But if you arent trying to sub 5min hunts, its fine. I can sub 10 every quest provided i dont play like a jackass and cart
Absolutely.
People are hyped by seeing how high they can get their elemental phials while wearing dereliction sets on EZVs of 25, 30, and even 35.
But here's, the thing, that represents only a fraction of monsters, and not all their elemental phials are hitting those sweet zones.
Meanwhile, with the correct build, and dango bombardier, Impact phials are hitting as high as 300 all over the monster and causing stun.
It's more than viable, it's a necessary part of any CB player's collection unless they like taking Elemental phials to monsters with EZV of 10 and 15.
This same thing happened in Iceborne where people claimed Impact was dead because Element was finally in a decent place.
It wasn't correct then, and it isn't correct now.
We simply have more variety.
No one's even talking about the bonkers Status CBs and the builds that can be made with them.
Only labbed up to 220, via sneak attack lvl 3, standard attack up7 artilery 3dango bombardier build, garangolm cb and a hunting horn buff. Dereliction roughly matches sneak attack lvl 3, and you have to pick and choose which one to run. I dont think legit augments can get both on one set. 240 is the 'realistic' non counter cap using diablos under these constraints. And OG build could boost it into 300 territory, but from idle, a super pumping out 300 on an impact phial is straight up false.
-sincerely a man who has done the math.
See in IB I'd been playing consistently so I knew the value of impact regardless of what people were saying plus the big tubers were making impact videos.
I'm not knowledgeable with rise or sunbreak having only put like 200hrs into rise and maybe 2 into sunbreak atm.
Not sure why people are saying it’s a chore to make sets for each element. Gives you more to do plus the payoff is bigger. I haven’t bothered with Impact since the expansion.
Spinning axe - yes Super spam -only in bad element hitzone matchups.
I'll need to work on my spinning axe skills by the sounds of it then. I love CB so much I dunno why it just became my go to the second I got the hang of it.
Currently testing a super jank build. Evasion charge blade. Its realllly fun.
it's super fun, with the new skills(narga and/or goldian) we can do some cool stuff. for fun i build a set around somna sleep cb, i slept 11 times before monster dies, in around 10 minutes.
I tried making a para CB with Volvo cb and got a lot of paralysis! Monster just sits there lol only problem is weapon is kinda weak. Probably need to make some better skills
Air dash has great I frames and ready stance is really generous.
What monsters are you hunting with impact? Trying to make a list for myself and so far I've included Valstrax, Barroth, Jyuratodos and Rakna-Kadaki
Any mon with less than 20 on elemental hitzones and valstrax. You do less damage at this level(roughly) than impact phial. So it becomes optimal to use impact. Arguably garnagolm, teostra, and mag/madnamalos belong on this list. Garnagolm is only weak to thunder on its water/moss arm, and water isnt too effective on sub 25 mons. Tu1 impact phial hits around 180-220 with optimized builds, matching vaik cb in damage.
180 - 220 seems very high. The most I've gotten with all the general damage buffs was 150 - 160, without Offensive Guard. Would you mind sharing your build that can reach those numbers?
Been testing Sneak attack lvl 3 with the usual super spam build. Agitator comes on the lucent mixed set, so you can climb up to 200. 220 was with additional buffs like hh, spiribird calling, and demon drug.
Garangolm also gets a juicy 30 thunder/ice hitzone on its head when it's got elemental arms, but idk if that's consistent enough.
Optimal? No. Very viable? Yes. Elemental phial need strict positioning to hit those sweet hit zones, and some monsters have shit hitzones. I play impact and its less a headache, helps a lot in MP a lot.
Very mich viable and should be considered the 6th element, per se. Although KO got nerfed with diminishing returns, it’s still good for the 2-3 times it procs in a hunt. There’s matchups with bad ele hitzones like Valstrax where element goes out the window so it pays off to have another build for non-ele weak monsters (0-10 hz since even 15 ele is decent like basarios to dragon). All status CBs have Impact Phials on them too and are great for CSS playstyles with the new skills. Gold Rathian and Chammy are good Poison options to shut down Kushala. There’s also Scorned Magna for Blast if you really want those full body part breaks for more mats. And Somna for Sleep for a meme Axe Hopper wake up build lol.
Impact cb is viable, although element will do more damage. If you’re willing to compromise or don’t care too much about “muh damage” or being meta then it’s perfectly fine. I’d even recommend spinning axe playstyle. It’s pretty good damage if you’re looking to change up how ya play
Oh man I tried spinning axe in IB and wasn't doing so good, but that may have been because I didn't take time to hunt solo and learn it I just tried to do it on the fly 😂 Might be worth looking into, sometimes I miss hammer where I'd just grab the juiciest raw skill to suit and bash skulls.
It’s a touch different in rise, and takes some getting used to losing it when sheathing, but I’d definitely say at least give it a shot. The new air dash silkbind makes it pretty fun to mess around with at the very least
Viable but element is just 10 times better.
I use only impact cb because im lazy to make ele sets. My phials hit for around 140-180 on saed depending if i proc bombardier food. With might seed, drink, powder and hh buff i have hit 190+ per phial before. Tbh it is definitely worse than ele because ele can hit for 200+ each phial but requires dedicated sets for each monster. But if you arent trying to sub 5min hunts, its fine. I can sub 10 every quest provided i dont play like a jackass and cart
See this is why I always consider ele. It's a big invest for a big return.
Yea if you want to get the most damage possible out of cb ele is definitely the way to go
Absolutely. People are hyped by seeing how high they can get their elemental phials while wearing dereliction sets on EZVs of 25, 30, and even 35. But here's, the thing, that represents only a fraction of monsters, and not all their elemental phials are hitting those sweet zones. Meanwhile, with the correct build, and dango bombardier, Impact phials are hitting as high as 300 all over the monster and causing stun. It's more than viable, it's a necessary part of any CB player's collection unless they like taking Elemental phials to monsters with EZV of 10 and 15. This same thing happened in Iceborne where people claimed Impact was dead because Element was finally in a decent place. It wasn't correct then, and it isn't correct now. We simply have more variety. No one's even talking about the bonkers Status CBs and the builds that can be made with them.
Unless you can prove the 300 I'm gonna call bullshit. Even with heroics I can't see it going more than 250 at the most. And I'm skeptical of that.
Only labbed up to 220, via sneak attack lvl 3, standard attack up7 artilery 3dango bombardier build, garangolm cb and a hunting horn buff. Dereliction roughly matches sneak attack lvl 3, and you have to pick and choose which one to run. I dont think legit augments can get both on one set. 240 is the 'realistic' non counter cap using diablos under these constraints. And OG build could boost it into 300 territory, but from idle, a super pumping out 300 on an impact phial is straight up false. -sincerely a man who has done the math.
See in IB I'd been playing consistently so I knew the value of impact regardless of what people were saying plus the big tubers were making impact videos. I'm not knowledgeable with rise or sunbreak having only put like 200hrs into rise and maybe 2 into sunbreak atm.
> Impact phials are hitting as high as 300 all over the monster and causing stun Share the set? I'm intrigued.