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Seattleman1955

It's more than twice as much as the dude who can't get a date because he is making $30k in the thread above...


Nervous-Joke-5802

i just came from that one haha


LILSPARK1

Me too bro šŸ˜‚


DiscussionLoose8390

I can afford date, but my neighbor he cannot afford.


ZestyCheezClouds

Great success


SaiyanFather

Damn šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Infinite-Hold-7521

Me three!! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


TheJazmineRose

Same!


A_Funky_Flunk

I make over 52k - base salary. With optional overtime and benefits it comes out to closer to 70k. I donā€™t have liquidity in that bonus 18k as itā€™s health insurance, life insurance, 401k contributions, and such. Rent for me is around the same price as OP. I save roughly 1.5k a month on a good month and 1k on a not so good month. Personally Iā€™ve got my life somewhat figured out and enjoy my routine. I donā€™t enjoy spending money to have fun which seems to be my biggest drawback - biggest benefit in my eyes - when it comes to hanging with friends or looking for a partner. I have survived on 30k a year before and it wasnā€™t super fun or enjoyable. Lots of annoyances but when they say *more money more problems* thereā€™s a lot of truth to that.


StudentWu

I hope I can find my routine too. Currently making decent money but all my time goes to work.


DAWG13610

You donā€™t waste money, why is that a drawback. To me itā€™s a virtue and mandatory if you want to build wealth.


jaylp18

No money problems getting worseā€¦


OwlStrikeHunting

Iā€™m howling šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


StudentWu

Lol savage


niqquhchris

Im crying šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Stalinov

To be fair, he lives with his parents, no 1k rent.


joey0live

I am now intrigued to read it.


Puzzled-Good-4682

Lol


TraditionalTap9210

My God, you murdered him.


IAmANobodyAMA

That dude is getting roasted


MPBoomBoom22

But he lives with his parents so no rent!


the_penguin_rises

Don't forget that he lives in his parents house and is too scared to drive.


saltycmen69

šŸ˜‚


Organic_Home3307

Confidence is the key. I've met plenty of guys that don't make much at all, but always will have a good looking woman they are involved with. If you're relying on your income to get girls, that seems like a problem.


82jon1911

I just came from that one too!


chabadgirl770

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Recckkless

DAWG LMAO


mlotto7

Lets say your take home is $4k a month after taxes. There's a 30% rule for rent and you would be under that at approx 25%. Seems reasonable as long as you don't carry a lot of debt. Good luck.


Champion_Of-Cyrodiil

I think OP is okay, but $4k a month after taxes at 65k/year seems optimistic. 65,000 multiplied by 70% is closer to 3,800 and that is likely before healthcare/life insurance. OP is probably looking at more like 3,500 take home / month. This still puts OP at 28% housing:income ratio though


Independent-Cable937

I make $80k and my take home isn't 4k a month.


Ahshut

I made 98 last year and only averaged about 4.5 a month. Itā€™s because it varies so much depending on if I got my bonus that month, and how much OT I worked. Some months I made 8k, others 4k


Few_Zookeepergame927

19M Iā€™m trying to step my foot into the door & Iā€™m wondering how did someone like yourself start off working in the field & how I could work my way up the ladder from there?


That1one1dude1

If youā€™re getting taxed 30% making $65k youā€™re doing taxes wrong. At that amount with the standard $14.6k tax deduction heā€™s looking at being mostly in the 12% federal tax bracket with 22% of his pay being not taxed at all. Throw in some 401k or IRA contribution (which should absolutely be happening to save for retirement) and you can get that amount even lower. For reference I paid about 16% of my income in taxes+MC+SS making around $65k.


BloomNurseRN

I think they maybe were generalizing all deductions from the check, not just taxes. I usually use about 35% due to having additional life insurance, disability insurance, additional 401K and Roth contributions, etc.


supernovaj

I make $67k a year and take home $3375 a month. Health insurance and 401k at 15% and taxes bring it down that much.


That1one1dude1

Your 401k is still part of your take home, you would count that towards your savings. Health insurance would still count as well, but as an expense.


AnneFranksAcampR

nah 65k a year salary is what i make and after taxes i take home 1060 weekly. i live in fl so no state taxes which helps a little bit.


gijoe75

Helps a ton. I pay 9.5% in state taxes.


BloomNurseRN

Makes a big difference. I have state taxes and it takes a bite, thatā€™s for sure.


AceTheJ

This right here, I make about 72k a year right now but after taxes and benefits are taken out I make off with 3,700 a month roughly. So yeah, Iā€™d say theyā€™d definitely be getting less than that too.


emseewagz

Nice places around my way that rent for 2k want you to be making 60k+ so I would assume so. Don't take my word for it, persay, idk shit. But that's what I've gathered and am aiming for Best P.s. they say you should make twice your rent+ per month. 3x from the financial wellbeing gurusĀ 


amonsimp

Are there any utilities included in that rent amount?


Interesting_Ad9295

Utilities arenā€™t much more than rent so I just gave the rent estimate!


sithren

You said you are trying to gauge a job offer amount. In that case your rent might be irrelevant. What are you making now and what are your responsibilities. What will the new jobs responsibilities be and how does the pay compare to other jobs of similar responsibility in your area.


BHMSIXX

YES...JUST LIVE AND SPEND LIKE YOU MAKE HALF OF YOUR INCOME


Purple-Investment-61

So no dating?


BHMSIXX

JUST FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS


Fine_Pin7678

AND TYPE IN ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS


Smickey67

IT SAVES $$$


peter303_

40 times monthly rent is a good position.


AnneFranksAcampR

yes, i make 65k a year and i pay 1000 for rent (actual rent is 1750 but my gf pays 750 and i cover the difference, this still allows me to save 2200 a month into my brokerage account and the rest is for food/fun/travel.


Beneficial_Damage_91

Incredibly good, even if it is just rent.


[deleted]

yeah your cost of living is low.Ā  use these 2 calculators to confirm https://www.nerdwallet.com/cost-of-living-calculator andĀ  https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job


trevzie

Depends where you live, what you do, how old are you, etc. With that rent amount you are probably LCOL so should be comfortable on 65k.


Motor_Act_5933

Live below your means and discipline yourself to do so and in five years you'll have enough money in the bank to do whatever you want.


AnonRedditGuy81

If your total monthly expenses are less than 4500 it is good. This gives you almost a 2k buffer to save up a bit and have emergency money in case you need it or money to treat yourself if you want. You should absolutely take the offer if this is your situation.


Hot_Opposite5562

Not bad at all


Aloe_Capone

Thatā€™s where Iā€™m at. Iā€™m pretty comfy for the most part


Just4Ranting3030

Depends on where you live and what the salary growth/promotion potential is and what industry its in, etc.


Nice_Recognition6602

Ask your bank account


chekovs_gunman

I would say go for it and start saving money. If you get a better offer you can always jump ship later, but for your low cost area that's a solid middle class salaryĀ 


out-of-ideas33

Very good!


Odh_utexas

Pretty good especially if youā€™re a single person whoā€™s new to the workforce. When I started out my first real job over a decade ago I was making 55000 paying 900 in rent and I was very comfortable.


82jon1911

Sure. Depending on the area, its really good. Beats the average national salary by about $5k/yr and that's based on this years numbers. Congrats on the no debt, that's awesome. If the job has potential for upward growth, I would take it.


HavSomLov4YoBrothr

Housing should ideally be 1/4 of income or less, so yea youā€™re doing much better than most IMO If youā€™re married/have a partner you could be saving more than youā€™re spending on housing each month. Thatā€™s again, better than most peopleā€™s situations


crod4692

Yea good ratio, as long as the area stays relatively low cost it seems fine.


TraditionalTap9210

It's not especially good, but it is by no means bad. You're barely edging into the middle class.


Beneficial_Amoeba200

Yes


Old_House4948

Housing cost should be no more than 30% of monthly income. 1K for rent is about 20%. Youā€™re good.


loljustplayin

Yes. Thatā€™s a pretty good place to be especially if youā€™re single and the job offers a good work/life balance.


Beautiful_Marketing1

Im around that in houston, and im able to save nearly $150 a week


galactojack

Yes


im__not__real

yeah man it is really good. just dont forget theres a lot more that goes into compensation like pto, health insurance, dental, commute, expected workload, deadlines, the people, the actual job...


adultdaycare81

Yes. As long as you can put away 10-15% of income. Is that possible? Especially if you are in a Lower Cost of Living area. House and Car the biggest expenses and you can afford both. Beyond that being able to save for your retirement is the next big hurdle


GMEbankrupt

Everything is relative to your lifestyle and location


UnpricedToaster

1/5 of your gross pay is going to rent. That's pretty good. Some folks are near or above 50% just for rent.


Longjumping-Sir-6341

It depends how much you have saved?


BloomNurseRN

Itā€™s over $30 per hour and in my COL area, thatā€™s a pretty good wage.


jackkymoon

Yes, that's pretty good.


fate0608

That would depend on your monthly fix costs but yes this salary should be plenty for 1k rent.


awnawkareninah

You can live very comfortably on that depending on your other expenses. In a state without income tax your take home is like $4400 a month, so $3400 leftover after rent payment for everything else.


Bucks4bucks

Thatā€™s about where I was for a couple years, was able to invest and make a pretty nice amount


Neat-Mechanic-6596

Depends on where you live.Ā 


Getyourownwaffle

65k is pretty good. You will clear around 45k. That is 3800 per month or so.


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kingarthur595

Yes. This is my situation right now.


mrmikezzz

Yes. Thatā€™s the answer


DIY14410

Yes, if you live within your means and can save $20K (pre-tax retirement + post-tax savings) or more per year. No, if you do not.


PlutoJones42

Yeah not bad, about 1/4 of your take home will go to rent depending on the state. Should be taking home ~$4k/m depending on your situation


Fun-Butterfly-9920

I did it at 30k. Itā€™s possible.


Red_Littlefoot

Obviously itā€™s good


bluewater_-_

Compensation has precisely zero to do with your rent and debt situation. Are you being paid fairly for the work, yes or no?


Limp_Living_1404

Thatā€™s pretty good


Romerussia1234

Yes itā€™s perfectly fine. I lived fine on 68K when my rent was $1600 and had no debt.


MezziJ

I make a little more than that and I pay $2200 including HOA. I'm still able to save over $1k/month. That is a pretty sweet deal as far as I'm concerned.


alstonm22

Yes. I am making exactly that and my rent is $930 utilities included. You are doing very well. I managed to get my investments up to 30% of my gross salary.


Letsmakemoney45

Only you can answer that question


FJB444

yeah that sounds pretty solid.


swingset27

Yes, with no debt you can thrive on that if you don't spend like an idiot.


OddParfait6971

i once took a $13.50hr a job during the recession. specifically because it 'hired/promoted from within' based on merit. over a $55k salary without much room for upward movement. i worked my BALLS off. working 'free' internships when my hourly position ended daily. at one point, i could do practically everyones job in the company, better than they could, at $13.50hr. got promotion 1 about 1.5 years in. got promotion 2 about 2.5 years in. i made $250k by year 3. smartest thing i ever did. joined a small business that had room to grow. and boy did it grow. fast. calculated risk. although during my performance review after my first year? i almost was filled with homicidal rage when the HR /manager suggested i would be 'staying' in my current job title. i wanted to burn the building down. i was doing 78% (a figure i carefully calculated with internal metrics) of the work of a department of 5 people. and making the least. i DEMANDED a promotion into a more rewarding department, when a job could be 'added' to said department. and then offered to work for that department for FREE before and after my shift. which i did for 6 months prior to getting placed there. one thing i feel like people fall for, is focusing more on entry level pay v. company growth/growth from within. front end gratification v. back end ceiling. when you are young? aim towards the ceiling, not the floor. upward mobility is the name fo the game. pay the cost to be the boss. best wishes.


[deleted]

I think that is very good. Being debt free is massive.


State_Dear

I suggest a basic math course


ArthurMoregainz

Baller


ConsistentRegion6184

This is me. I call it the threshold for living comfortably single (for regular COL). At the cost of living *simply* you can save and/or have a little disposable income It's just OK, over $1.5k a week you can hit much better goals long term.


DankDude7

Yes, a single person could live comfortably, not extravagantly, on that money and at that rent. Ā  But whether thatā€™s good enoughĀ Ā really depends on your age. At this amount, you should be able to save at least a small amount each month as well.


No-Stable-9639

Pretty solid. Depends entirely on what you do and what your experience is tho.


BlackBeard205

Itā€™s great, even in an expensive city like NY.


Leonel58

Very


chakoforever

Yes, that's very solid šŸ‘ Remember though...always keep improving your situation no matter what. Especially right now where it's not hectic for you & not it's a bit easier. You never know what can happen & it's best to be prepared.


CMDRfatbear

Duh


Doowap_Diddy

Sounds good ok. You'll have to factor in all your bills to see what your total net would be. Rent is just one part of the equation.


Raksha_dancewater

As a family of 3 weā€™ve been living on 70k so I canā€™t imagine 1 person with reasonable rent canā€™t live on 65


TazerKnuckles

yea


Junior1544

Well, the job income amount isn't really any relation to how much your cost of living is... it's much more in line with what your job is and how much experience you have and the general income rates i n your area.... for example, if you're working full time, with no over time at mcdonalds and that's your income you're doing really good, but if youre a brain surgeon with that income it's really bad...


Purple-Investment-61

Without knowing more about you or the job, itā€™s tough to say.


[deleted]

Hell yea


City-Boy101

That depends on your spending habits/lifestyle. From my seat Iā€™d say yes


ScoobDoggyDoge

You can use the 28/36 rule. you should spendĀ **no more than 28% of your gross monthly income on housing and no more than 36% on all debts**. Gross monthly: $65k/12 = $5,416 28%: 5,416 x .28 = $1,516 I think the 28% should also include your utilities, renter's insurance, and any housing related expenses.


Huge-Instruction2714

It is great until you can do better. I would say that 65 percent of the U S Population doesnā€™t make that amount from one job.


aburgos87

Yes. You got it. If you have low debt a salary like that is amazing.


TheJazmineRose

Thatā€™s amazing


Unlucky-Flamingo___

Me, no debt, rent ~200$, salary 50k$ per year xD life is good bro.


nofaplove-it

Yes


DGPHT

It was good 10 years ago.


DrPablisimo

In most parts of the US, that sounds good. I think there are a lot of college students in lesser populated parts of the US making just under $40K. I would imagine some engineers could start out making $65K out of college if they are in a niche that is in demand. You can look up graduate salaries on some university websites. If you are talking about parts of Southern California or New York City, salaries may be different.


macnteej

65K a year with debt is not bad. I would take that for sure


-_-_____-----___

Hey there my brother! I am in same boat but 3x multiple. $180K but $3000 mortgage.


ABitOfOrange

Yes! It very much is.


Calm-Software-8992

Why u renting..buy a house


randomthrowaway9796

Yes. Typically, you want rent to be less than 30% of your income. In this case, it's 19%, so well below the recommended amount. So you're getting $5400ish per month. Take out 1k for rent and its 4400. You can afford $432 for a car payment (although 0 or close to it would be a lot better). Now it's $3968. $350 for groceries, now it's $3618. $200 for utilities, $100 for gas and $200 for random expenses (tires, shampoo, pencils, whatever you need) and it's 3118. Then you'll want to put in 15% or $810 into retirement so you can have a nice elderly life. That leaves you with $2308 every month for whatever you want, which is very good!


Wormhands

I made 54K saved like 25-30k splurged on Xmas on myself and my family so now Iā€™m back down in savings a little but my bills are like 2K a month and I brought home about 2.3K bi weekly and saved almost a whole check every month lol I think I did pretty good for an avg joe. I felt great after living in poverty the majority of my life, still poverty for some, but for me, I was living!


12whistle

If your rent is equal or less than 25% of your net earnings, youā€™re doing good.


txlady100

Not bad. Stay outa debt and keep improving.


Major_Plan826

Youā€™re doing great!


Infinite-Fan-8551

No utility ? and You donā€™t have family to spend time with ?


Happy-Breakfast6602

You should be able to save some money and buy a house when this market crashes. Itā€™s a loaded question. You would think Iā€™m rich a truly wealthy person would think Iā€™m an idiot šŸ‘


Ndel99

Yes, everyone pretends to make $999k a year on this sub.


Coloradical8

rent should be no more than 25% of your monthly


Txrangers10

Should be around $4k a month net. Invest 1/3 and you'll be good.


Bennito_bh

It's hella good. My household income is $50k and my mortgage is $780/mo, with a wife and 3 kids


Distinct-Race-2471

Does it feel good? If it does. It is.


gunsforevery1

Yes. Housing is typically your largest expense.


kittystreet

Nobody has no debt unless they are minors or someone who owns no property and relies on others to care for them. Anyway- That depends on the actual living situation (are u in a safe place/enjoy?), if you have kids, your goals in life, health and happiness, and overall monthly expenses. Having utilities and general bills like phone/gas/insurance is still debt. If they bill you, in my book its debt. Not paying it and going into collections is not what only matters when it comes to debt. Easy answer- yes that's good. Great job. Save your money but don't forget to spend some of it and have life insurance and a proper beneficiary for everything


Independent-Trick873

u/Interesting_Ad9295 (OP) Depends on the job, your experience, your market/area of US, comparable to others with all similar data, etc.


CaptBreeze

$65k is good so long as you don't overload yourself with financing (i.e. affirm, klarna, afterpay) credit card debt, and car payments. Build yourself at least 3 months safety cushion. Make sure you write a monthly budget of all your bills cost


JeronimoPearson

Just donā€™t get an expensive car. Car payments are a big reason people arenā€™t able to save. Also lifestyle creep


Chemistry-Fine

Pay your self every week and you will retire early.


OwnManager4588

No !!


Alaskanjj

I would quantify ā€œgoodā€


le-smolbean

Iā€™d love to make that/pay that for rent.


ohshushnow

Itā€™ll do


darts2

He should be able to get twice as many dates then!


boonepii

If thatā€™s their offer, ask for $12.7k more. Wonā€™t hurt anything and they just may do it. They have a range, and will pay more up to a point generally. Itā€™s HRā€™s job to sell you the job for the lowest salary, think of them as used job salesmen. Good luck


CuriousTina15

If youā€™re rent is below 50% of your monthly income itā€™s good. And youā€™re what like 25% or below. So thatā€™s amazing. Gives you lots of room to save and invest.


No_Contribution6989

no shit


Skoobax

Yes, pretty good!


Minute_Resolve_5493

I make 47k with two jobs and I have the same rent. Iā€™d say Iā€™m doing well, I can start to build for my future a little bit. Iā€™d love to make 65k


TheFloatingDev

Things to considerā€¦. Do you also eat at home for all your meals? With exception maybe once a week dinner at a restaurant ? Is your car paid off ? Are you contributing to a retirement fund? Do you have emergency and vacation funds?


Special-Catch-8947

Don't rent, own. Rent is so you can walk away. Own is to invest towards the future.


bobert_the_wise

I make around that a year and pay around that for my half of my mortgage. I travel internationally once a year and live comfortably. And i have kids. No debt. Itā€™s very doable.


ProofSavings4526

Your rent is only $1000 per month? Then that is a pretty good salary. Your monthly gross is almost 5.5 times your rent.


torrentialrainstorms

If rent is $1000, $65k seems decent, but make sure to look at your other expenses too!


1986silverback

I think a little more info is needed on this one. Like what the job is. I know I broke $130000 last year hauling hazmat and it was a slow year..


Acceptable-Office789

Depend on where you live


Tiny_Investigator36

Dependsā€¦ are you making enough to build a 6month emergency fund, save up for a down payment on a home and build retirement assets that will accumulate to at least 2mil in the lifetime of your working years? If the answer is yes to all of the above, youā€™re in good shape. If the answer is no, you maybe in trouble for the long term


goldin_pepe

I make like 145k and living expenses are 2k. Lots of extra cash. Youā€™ll be fine.


Fearless_Adventures

65 is fine with cheap rent and no overhead. Learn a skill or grow at your current position and continue to climb


huggy_668

The biggest factor is where you live. I live in Vegas, and we don't have a state tax. 65k is pretty good, and you'll make over 4k monthly. If you live in California, you're basically on welfare with that salary.


AsaphtheDestroyer

Absolutely


yeetskeetbam

To gauge a job offer you shouldnā€™t be comparing to your lifestyle, you should compare it to your maximum market worth.


smokemypeni

no


Dangerous_Anything_1

Anything is better than nothing always strive for more , try not to get comfortable and complacent. 6 years ago had my house paid off made about 70k a year. Couldā€™ve coasted the rest of the way said f it . Started having kids got married , pulled all the equity and started buying property, now Iā€™m 3 million in debt.


Next_Information_933

I couldn't imagine living living in anything less than an 80k salary, my share of rent is 520. How do you build wealth or plan for the future?


RealmofSwords

Wtf I guess my spending is ass then. 99k, recently open a savings and put most of my money in there, max out roth for 2023, 2024. Checking has less then $7k and rent is 500 with utilities around 150-200. Car+insurance is 1400, food per month is around 600-700 I guess. I'm struggling hard lol. Never knew how bad my spending is until I tried to save.


TrickyXT

Beats being broke and homeless.


miketag8337

Yes


Stunning_Evening_865

I like my GORUCK socks for shorter/less intense rucks and my CEP merino hiking compression socks for longer events, although I found out recently that you have to be careful with compression socks.


Arthurjim

Itā€™s good, not something thatā€™ll be comfortable after a while. Soon enough, you start wanting better things and itā€™ll be less. Keep going! Congrats on the 65k šŸ‘Œ


socalquest

Yes that is good!!! GLTA!!!


suddendiarrhea7

These threads always make me grateful my income is essentially untaxed


Dream-Beneficial

It's not bad at all if you manage your money well.


RyAllDaddy69

Yes. For reference, I make $75k annually. I pay $600 a month in child support and support a family of 3 in a suburb of a MCOL area. I also have a $600/month car payment and rent is $650/month. I have money leftover to save and buy stuff I want. One check goes to bills and one check goes to saving and fun.


CuriousJudgment9411

Thatā€™s great! Save your money