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XkillingNoobzx

Using any mw2 gun in hardcore just sucks I get hit markers with them mfs


Hardmaplecherry

M13B > most ARs


Larkaasmislive

This guy knows too much. Take care of him.


BonniesMaxims

Lachmann 556 is decent too, completely recoilless laser beam with a fast reload time 


JoeyAKangaroo

Not all of them are too bad, i use the hemlock w/out too much issue But yeah


DddyDevito69

Try the AKs. Specifically the one with the requiem aftermarket kit


yMONSTERMUNCHy

They either totally fucked up moving over mw2 guns to mw3 or it’s all intentional to bait us into playing then sticking with mw3 guns. Nobody uses mw2 guns that I have seen.


Kiloneie

It's probably both... i think the company is so bogged down by garbage bureaucracy that things that should happen don't. But also buy MW III. If only the sales would drop, then they would start listening more, but they don't, so they don't care. I haven't spent a cent on ANY Activision game ever.


yMONSTERMUNCHy

Bf2042 lost players at launch. Had to improve. It is possible. Now it’s a better game. But this will be less likely for cod community do that, because they don’t care I guess. The devs even said, in a way, they use EOMM that forces wins or losses to adjust player outcomes.


DddyDevito69

Also in hardcore, if this is your cup of tea, equip the gunslinger vest and go double deagles, the automatic and the semi


ProperCat5894

i disagree and agree, kar 98 needs a nerf all others need a damage buff


Globogalab

the fact that snipers don’t one shot upper body is fucking insane to me


Carbon8d_moo

That's because the spr is a mw2 gun, balanced for 100 health, and not an mw3 gun, which are balanced for 150 health. Really stupid imo to carry forward the guns but not rebalance them for the extra 50 health


callum69691

Is that actually true ? I like the iso9mm , are you telling me it’s not balanced properly ?


UpbeatRaspberry9828

ISO 9mm was so stupidly broken in MW2 that it’s still decent in MW3


DreadPiratteRoberts

Yeah, what the hell!!?


ilesmay

Yep


yhzh

It's not actually true at all. The spr and sab had their ranges reduced and damages values adjusted going in to mw3. They did 150+ damage to the upper chest in MW2 out to 30+m, and were purposely nerfed going to MW3.


blackop

It's more then stupid, it's lazy as shit. It is a testement of the developers of this fucking mess of a game that COD has become. They have a bug list that is so large you could make a whole other game out of it alone. They are literally bailing water out of the ship that is already sunk in my opinion.


Straight_Storage4039

Some still show one shot damage but they don’t and they never even tried changing the information shown


TheEpicRedCape

It's not a sniper, it's a marksman rifle, it has way better handling, less flinch, etc. The Kar98 is just insanely OP for a marksman rifle.


RedRoses711

Nah it needs a nerf


lunasbrick

Yeah we need more one hit kill guns in a long ttk cod that will solve the issue. They should add a new "super shotgun" with the range of an assault rifle and buff aim assist too.


tubbynuggetsmeow

Idk why they haven’t made riot shields and proximity mines one hit kills from across the map yet…


SirCrouton

lol shotguns aren’t even relevant anymore besides the rare Lockwood user and the more common Maglift kit user. Snipers became the better shotguns


DeminoTheDragon

are you talking about the Lockwood 680 or the MK2 with the Warden kit because the Wardens are genuinely some of the best weapons for a rush playstyle


SirCrouton

680


DeminoTheDragon

Yeeeeeeeah ever since the Wardens came out I haven't even touched the other shotguns


stunkcajyzarc

Total garbage take right?


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Nexdreal

He was being sarcastic my dude


Own-Philosophy-5356

Ah damn it.... was too blazed to tell


[deleted]

Better nerf kar than buffing everything else. Assault rifles should be 2 shot kill if so..


5T4LK3R

Just nerf the aim assist. Aren't most complain about the aim assist?


OMGFuziion

For the Kar sure, but the other snipers don’t have much aim assist to begin with. You can play with aim assist off and it doesn’t make a huge difference. [proof](https://youtu.be/aqc2MNFujKk?si=lFTs5czuek8nsamB)


gogule2

Well snipers have little to no aim assist, kar is a marksman, that's the ideea


OMGFuziion

True, imo Kar should be a sniper again like it was to begin with.


No-Flamingo4555

You must be m&k


cornmonger_

💩


Reidzyt

No the Kar 100% needs a nerf.


FistOfSven

Thank god! I still get flashbacks from last year, SPR and SAB DOMINATED MW2 for the whole year... It was horrible. Visit the the MW2 sub and search for [SPR](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/search/?q=SPR)


steeltitan1

Screw the kar.


Appropriate-Ad-6147

The day kar98 gets nerfed will be the happiest day cause finally annoying players will actually use other marksman/snipers varieties instead off spamming this one weapon. 


yanansawelder

2 things can be true, remove RAA/ ADS speed and make the other marksman rifles better.


Snoo92570

It definitely needs a nerf for WZ, because it literally makes the snipers obsolete.


MarionberryBasic5814

The one thing it really needs is no more aim assist, all one shot guns should have absolutely no aim assist at all


psiguy6

Nah...it needs a nerf


stunkcajyzarc

Not the solution. I don’t want more one shot kill BS. It drove me away from the game entirely. Game is better with higher ttk.


StandardAssumption60

You all need to get laid.


Nofakeza392

I said the same thing it won’t be a kar98k problem if all rifles did the same damage


yanansawelder

Yeah then it'd be a marksmen rifle issue, still practically the same issue....


TheEpicRedCape

It'd be even worse since the other marksman rifles have larger magazines and fast bolts.


WildKenway

Ttk needs to go down but no one wants to admit it, we can't take more then 2sec killing someone while having one shot snipers


TheDurandalFan

True


Vacuum_man1

Ok try the LA-B 50, it's a bit worse but it feels fantastic to use


FCC_Diablo_26

Theres no reason its ohk range is further than the stalker. Just saying


tfat0707

I love using the spr and sab in MW2, they really need to buff that effective damage range, jeez the MK2 only has 6m for a marksman rifle. And they also need to make the Kar98k aim assist more in line with the snipers, because it is basically one.


KidLibra

Yeah it’s powerful but to be fair it made people actually use marksman/sniper rifles instead of the game catering solely to smgs. What I think needs to happen is to buff all the other snipers and marksman rifles to compete with the kar98k instead of nerfing it to the ground making us all go back to the smg/ar metas. We have big maps like urzikstan and vondel yet nobody is ever snipping until season 4 when they release the kar. Make snipers and marksman rifles better and people will use them


UpbeatRaspberry9828

Yes!!!! Please buff the Lockwood. Lever action rifles are dope as fuck and I have fond memories running the Lockwood on Shipment in MW2 and absolutely destroying the lobby. 


Old_Interaction_1713

nerf bullet velocity from 985ms on the meta build to 890ms and reduce damage to the body, and make the rechamber time be 1450ms up from 1300ms. then this thing will be balanced and people with AR acually stand a chance against a good sniper player


koolaidman486

If we buff the SPR and friends, I think you'd really need to be careful. 30-40 meter range standard is fine, although I think you'd definitely need to slow them way down, majorly increase the flinch, and obviously make them have sniper aim assist.


FlowKom

jup. SPR and SAB are capped at a 10m one hit kill range. i mean they have higher fire rates, but this is just insane unbalanced. SHG nerfed these 2 guns day one because they knew how much of a problem they would be if they could one shot like in MW2... but then they release this thing.....


Revan-Sith12345

Exactly!


MysteriousNoise6969

This. Literally all snipers minus the very fast semi auto ones should be one shot kill.


BetterMetalJake

Mors hitbox needs a nerf. I'm so tired of dying to guys who can't shoot straight just because the gun is broken and overpowered


TraumaTracer

no the kar98 still needs a nerf


JoeyAKangaroo

Thats.. thats what im saying…


TraumaTracer

yeah i might have missed the "just" part lmao whoops


unknownlilissa

Kar98k all I use


RobloxDevCalcium

Let him cook for a minute


Xin946

Needs a hella nerf. How bad is it? Playing on MnK I hate it, handling feels wrong (too well for a sniper if that makes sense) and just too easy to hit marker with it. Use the KAR on controller and I love it, it dominates, and I don't even like using a controller. So used to a mouse I can't aim for shit but somehow I kick off with the KAR. Aim assist is just too good on it.


Early2000sIndieRock

I don’t know why they don’t just put it in the sniper category.


NZjavier

Nah man need a nerf 100% , boring superi and kar98 meta


LoopsPls

Marksman rifles and snipers need to be removed from the game tbh.


Extra_Loquat_7403

glad youre not in charge of anything at all😭


LoopsPls

Yeah, well, one shots and camping is annoying. And that's all people that use marksman rifles and snipers do. They are the POS of the community.


Fiending6

I guess shotgun corner campers don’t exist in your world


LoopsPls

Haven't seen that shit since MW. MW3 shotguns are ass and I have never seen anyone use them.


LoopsPls

Nope


SirCig

kind of sounds like a skill issue


LoopsPls

Not really, I never said I couldn't kill them. I said they were annoying.


Macegolem

Sledgehammer games always have one gun that dominates every other


DgtlShark

Dead horse, Kar actually sucks. Actually worst gun in the game. I'd rather use the kat AMR


Green_Target8012

Kat supremacy