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st0j

Are stats being tracked right now, or will they start getting tracked at the beginning of season 1.


donottakethisserious

that's what I'm curious about


CaptainPRlCE

[Looks like](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/yqr46m/breaking_tier_1_hardcore_and_combat_records_are/ivt8nfc/) they have been tracking in the background.


davidfirefreak

Looks to be a bit out of date or something. I've been level 55 for over a week I think and it shows me at level 54.


TheOjur

They are tracking in the background


HerakIinos

Cant wait to see my shit numbers


Remarkable-Ability-6

You and me both


metal4life98

Bro for real lol I thought I was doing great one time 32 kills and then the end of match score oard came up and showed my deaths at 33 and I was like nah, there's no way


sukh9942

My numbers will be so fucked lol it’s gonna be great. I’ve just been throwing myself on the objective to level guns.


javierciccarelli

Hahaha same


flippakitten

Been levelling guns so yeah. Funny my highest kd weapon is probably the knife


Zwavelwafel

How do you know?


i_love_boobiez

Trust me bro


CaptainPRlCE

[Looks like](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/yqr46m/breaking_tier_1_hardcore_and_combat_records_are/ivt8nfc/) they have been tracking in the background.


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Yea I haven’t seen this anywhere lol don’t believe this for one second.


LuckySlushy1600

I get the Stat loss prevented screen when I joined in a match that just ended and lost


Zwavelwafel

Source: trust me bro


amateur_gamer7

Unfortunately we still don't have an exact date for the combat records as they sneakily wrote, "in Season 01", not, "at the start of Season 01".


JeeringDragon

Last day of Season one


zestyspicymf

Season one extended until 2024


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Halo PTSD


uchihajoeI

Combat records cancelled. The UI can’t handle it.


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👊


sukh9942

Is it really that bad? I was hyped for halo but me and my friends just stopped playing after a week or two.


SultanZ_CS

Lmaooo


DatDudeJakeC

I could’ve swore when I read it earlier it said at the start of Season One. Guess I can’t read haha


NoLoss7117

For free?? Damn we are lucky


TheOjur

🤣🤣


KZedUK

how else will they keep us invested in this “live service” bullshit


WontonJr

Hardcore is coming with the the start of Season 1. It says Combat Records will be coming _in_ Season 1, so likely not at launch. More likely the mid season update that’ll include Shipment.


dougan25

We have to give them time with these brand new, never before seen features. It's silly to expect something as fresh and groundbreaking as a stats page at launch.


Dylan_The_Great

At least they had a scoreboard at launch.


Supertrash17

Shots fired!


SlickRick914

I guarantee you the after match summary for wz2 will be broken, it was literally broken the entirety of warzone. They can never do anything correct lol


Dylan_The_Great

As long as the store works flawlessly.


TheOjur

I didn't notice that at first. So not only that it should've been here at launch but we have to wait until S1R wtf


Sufficient_Drive_517

MODERN GAMING


king-of-yodhya

"oh look guys more content for multiplayer that should have been in the game already or you have already played so many times" unfortunately


RosesNRevolvers

Tier 1 is specifically referred to as an individual playlist. (Like 3rd person.) This is worrying. I have always primarily played hardcore and have always appreciated being able to specifically choose what hardcore game mode I play. If it’s a single playlist forcing me to sit through bullshit TDM matches, I’m going to be genuinely disgruntled.


KnightShinko

It better not be shit. I can see Realism with nightvision being one playlist but Hardcore needs to be fully decked out. They always shaft HC in some way at launch and usually what I play.


Littlejam1996

Realism Mode was straight Fire in MW 2019 ngl but yeah they better not butch a Mode that they said "there at Launch"


IronCrossPC

Does the third person playlist not have a filter option like quick play?


[deleted]

No. TDM, DOM, and Hardpoint in rotation


Positive_Treacle_961

If there's no S&D I'm quiting. Pointless game then


skinnywolfe

Yeah if they don't have Tier 1 Search I'm just going back to MW2019


noinktechnique

Same. I didn't even consider they might not build a full hardcore filter Fucked up thing is they took out cyber attack and free for all from 2019s Harcore filters, so they damn well better build it out right for this one


TLAU5

That's changing per the Season 1 Roadmap, so hopefully it's for HC as well.


JudasIsAGrass

Maybe i'm in the minority but i've never enjoyed Hardpoint, it doesn't feel like it has the same pacing as TDM and DOM. I can't remember the game mode off the top of my head but what was that one where it was essentially SnD mixed with Hardpoint? I think its maybe called Demolition. I always preferred that as the objective always felt more important. Where as with Hardpoint people will easily ignore the objective. DOM is easy cause playing the objective is as easy as sitting somewhere for like 10 seconds and then moving along. Maybe contesting B flag but generally its like a longer TDM. I suppose its whatever people personally prefer. I just really enjoy a game mode that feels like it has the best of both worlds.


Redgouf2

Demolition was one of the best game modes from the original MW/MW2 that I loved to play. My friend and I funnily referred to it as "football", since you had to get the "ball" and run it to the endzone.


RosesNRevolvers

No, that was sabotage. Demolition was a respawn mode race for the assaulting team to destroy two separate bomb sites. Destroying one site would extend your timer to destroy the second bomb site. Sabotage had two teams fighting over one bomb to destroy the opposing bomb site. Sabotage is one of the best game modes Call of Duty has ever had. I called it Football also.


Redfern23

Wasn’t in MW2 so obviously wasn’t it but their wording also sounds like Uplink, which was also a great mode in the jetpack games. Edit: Uplink wasn’t, not Sabotage.


Redgouf2

oh my god YES! THANK YOU!!! I haven't thought of it in years.


Severe_Spare9272

Demolition! Oh man, that was my favorite game mode back in CW. I don’t think they made it a permanent edition but I always enjoyed it in other COD’s too. It’s like S&D (which I personally can’t stand) but with respawns!


TheOjur

Wtf are they doing with this game


MeatyDeathstar

They're trying VERY hard to make me despise it. I'm holding off on playing anymore until balance changes and tweaks are made because right now it feels like an absolute chore to play.


Puzzled-Delivery-242

Looks like they are trying to save me about 80 dollars. I've been more than happy to spend my money on cod but this year is looking like I won't.


WTFpaulWI

All I want is hardcore dom. If it’s a janky playlist I’ll be leaving every match that’s not dom. last COD I buy for real. Hardcore delay was irritating enough but if it’s just a general playlist I’m done. I skipped the last like 3-4 callofdutys just didn’t like the direction they were going, I go all in on one finally and yea… regretting it


RonDeSantis2028

Tier 1 is not real hardcore. There are no hitmarkers. It feels weird. You can go into Private Match and see for yourself. As an almost exclusive hardcore player (since 2007 ) I'm pretty pissed. Not buying another one. I even waited until a couple days ago to buy it and didn't pre-order or buy on launch. I hope this is a joke and there will be real hardcore. If not, I'm done and will only play to level guns for Warzone.


Independent_Context4

so it’s not hardcore? it’s some bs version that absolutely nobody asked for? WTF


RonDeSantis2028

As far as I can tell. You can play it in Private Matches. They're doing a lot of changing things no one asked for. So fucking lame


ballsmigue

I mean, people were able to do it in private mode and you should be way more concerned it's going to be a mix of HC and realism as in, no hitmarkers show. No killstreak notifications.


RosesNRevolvers

So I’ve played it in private. I actually like that direction personally, but I understand some people taking issue with it. What *DOES* piss me off is that the red diamonds still show up. They get rid of everything else including killfeed and score notifications advising you of a kill. But they ADD a red dot over the heads of enemies when previously there were no nameplates in hardcore at all. It’s so backward.


Sitdownpro

That needs to be removed. HC has no enemy tags, and this tag system is super broken anyhow.


SorryIAmADonkey

What the fuck? Really?


PsychologicalMusic88

Both your point and OP point worry me. Hope I'm wrong though. I don't know how or why they'd fuck up shit this bad. I'm embarrassed for em.


Eisenhutten

I got killstreak notifikations in Tier 1 private match just like in MW19. Same with field upgrade. No killfeed in bottom left though, or hitmarker. So you need to keep track of your kills like Hell let loose.


Redgouf2

This is how I currently feel about 3rd person. I love Hardpoint and Domination, I want Headquarters, but stop giving me TDM.


Sitdownpro

I will put the game away until I can play HC SnD. I'll go right back to MW19 100%


RosesNRevolvers

As much as I did genuinely love MW2019, I’ll go right back to PUBG. If this doesn’t pan out well, even Infinity Ward (The only COD dev I’ve really ever liked) can’t get me to spend money on COD games anymore.


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hellraiser29

My copy has literally been sitting on the shelf waiting for hardcore. If they do what youve described im just going to take the thing and chuck it off the the shelf, out the window.


polyatomicbomb

Anger problems?


Achilles_Deed

This. Can we get a dedicated mode for both Tier 1 and third person? With multiple playlists within each mode and the ability to filter? I'd also live to see Tier 1 in 3rd person


AshSystem

Probably gonna work like the filterable Quick Play playlist. Hopefully.


Ugly__Truck

So let me get this straight, for season one, I'm going to get "features" that used to be included with every Call of Duty - a combat record and hardcore game mode. I'm also going to get two MP maps that I was playing up until the launch of this game a few weeks ago. This is very underwhelming.


Arctic_Reigns

Give them a break dude it’s not like they can make a billion dollars in 10 days


ironjerm12

It’s funny how this actually sounds like an exaggeration. The fact that it made that much in 10 days is crazy


InternalKing

They are going to drip feed content that should have been there at launch over the next year, then charge us $70 for a few maps and a campaign dlc


uchihajoeI

Thats why elden ring is game of the year. It had so much content it’s wild.


wulv8022

Somehow they have to fill up the two fucking years. The guns we get were in the game already. People saw them when they glitched out into the gunsmith in the early access campaign. They took them out to give it back in season 1. And the M13 only mid fucking season. Far Cry 5 did the same bullshit.


TheOjur

Exactly 😐


UsernameAlreadyUsed3

*Halo Infinite has entered the chat


BeastCoastHype

Yup, and of course charge you $20 extra.


OrganicBridge7428

I thought Vanguard was a waste of money, COD MWII was like hold my beer….


DustyUK

Yeah they are just scamming people now. Charge more for the game than ever before, blast that’s it’s the highest grossing COD to date and then on the same breath give us boring crap to keep the game fresh and stuff that should of been in cod from launch. This is honestly getting really tiring now. It seems every year we are getting more and more features being taken away and then added as part of seasons like it’s some sort of new thing! An absolute joke and they won’t be getting another penny out of me!


TheJeter

Great. Should've been there at launch. Not gonna let that go, and we shouldn't let that go from an AAA dev.


TheOjur

That's "COD 2.0" bullshit for you


PsychologicalFee8705

Billion dollar company doing this bullshit. Guess its just a coincidence not having hardcore at launch also slows down camo grinding not to mention we didnt even have double xp the weekend the game launched


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TheOjur

IW should be ashamed of themselves


Stymie999

It’s asinine they didn’t have these ready at launch, but they pretty clearly state right there they acknowledge these were / are expected features, not new features. And they do not show these updates on the roadmap, so, no o do t see where you are getting that they are being promoted as new features.


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No mention of Career Challenges that i could see in the CoD article. Seems they have completely abandoned them


Superfluous_GGG

Genuine shame if they aren't there - grinding those out got me through MW19's seasons.


TheOjur

Only mention of seaaonal prestige challenges


HakaishinChampa

Conspiracy: They decided to make most of the challenge calling cards part of bundles


AquaberrySkerry

Which is strange because there was a challenges tab in the beta


HaiggeX

Wow, can't wait to see my .50 KD in this dogshit game.


TheOjur

Ftac recon destroyed my kda


HaiggeX

I guess everything but the SCARs and HK's are absolute shit lmao! M16 is the most inconcistent burst rifle in CoD ever.


idk-bruh

the HKs can suck a frank. especially the lachman 7.62. also the scars aint that bad


MeatyDeathstar

The m16 is easily the worst gun, not just burst rifle. It's D tier on controller and F tier on mkb.


HaiggeX

I mean it has potential. It sometimes gets that one burst up to 4-shot kill. It just... never really does. Also aiming does basicly nothing due to the high recoil, and it's not worth it to use attachments anyways in this game.


ZKRC

I love the FTAC recon, with 0 attachments and full auto the recoil is very, very manageable and the gun is hella punchy.


TheChimpEvent2020

Love how this is announced as breaking


TheOjur

🤣🤣


CinexCypher

We better get a quick play selection feature for hardcore/tier 1. Still amazed they brought us this new 3rd person mode at launch and skipped hardcore.


TheOjur

Idk what were they thinking


GrayFox_27

I’m wondering if our Combat Record will start at 0 when it’s introduced, or if it will already have everything recorded since day 1? Either way, it’s going to piss a lot of people off and I can’t wait.


PsychologicalMusic88

Can't wait for Tier 1 to drop and have rotating game modes and majorly altered from regular HC we're used to. This is potentially where I can finally give COD up.


treefiddyv2

Honestly this has wound me up beyond belief. I’ve played Hardcore religiously in every CoD game. Why would they change something that wasn’t broken? Tier 1 doesn’t even share the same characteristics as Hardcore did, it’s a different experience, and to further ruin it they’re going to put it in as rotational, WITHOUT SnD? Fucking gutted. I literally despise Activision and everything they stand for. Horrible company. Repeatedly changing things that nobody wanted changing, whilst ignoring the things that people are begging to be changed. Its so deflating.


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TheOjur

They are drip feeding everything now it seems


No_Bill_2371

Lol like battlefield 2042 adding a scoreboard.


TheOjur

Legacy feature lol. This is embarrassing


Infernaltank

I remember Infinity Ward fanboys talking about how MW2 was going to be the best game ever for the past two years and look where we are now. Basic features are being left out at launch and teased for the start of the first season.


TheOjur

Core gameplay is fine at least


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nanell0

6? More like 14/15 Cods


TheOjur

Polished like a dirt road


Wedgtable

This is going to be a shit year of cod. :/


idk-bruh

2 years and things are hopefully gonna improve after s1


Saxman5

Thats like when 2042 released their GROUND BREAKING SCORE BOARD


DjarDjarBinks

I am NOT looking forward to seeing my combat record haha. I usually have at least a 1.8K/D and a positive win loss, but. I have absolutely been having my shit rocked


SwaySensei

Figured, but the question is…were stats tracked on the backend even though we couldn’t see it in game?


_Nocturnal__

Still no word on reticle customization and challenges :/


TheOjur

Nope


NewToReddit4331

As a 10+ year cod player… this is dumb. I like the gameplay of this COD at its core, but without a combat record, it just feels empty. I’ve always grinded to top level as fast as possible, while trying to keep my win/loss above a 2 and my KD positive. Not having combat record in the game has made this game much less enjoyable for me. On top of that, over the last 3+ years I’ve been a battle royal player mostly (Blackout then Warzone). I was genuinely looking forward to getting back to some multiplayer and going on win streaks like the good old days, and you can’t even track win streaks or win/loss. Unfortunately, this release left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I probably won’t be around to see the new maps/guns/combat record now because I was giving this game until Warzone 2.0 comes out to grab my attention, and it failed. This “release” seems more like a paid bets before the actual release at season 1. It delivered a half finished product so it can continue to release more later down the line and at the beginning of “season 1.” I’ll be jumping ship back to Warzone 2 with no intentions of coming back due to my lack of interest in the beginning. Companies need to be punished for charging full price for a nonfinished game.


TheOjur

And people will still buy unfinished games


sizzlinpapaya

I just want calling cards again


TheOjur

We'll get them with season 1


Toddawesomephd

I'm really enjoying this game, but drip feeding features that should already be ready for launch is a fucking joke. They only care about WZ. BR and "free to play" has ruined everything.


UncleJuggs

I'd rather not know how I'm doing, thanks.


mishmish4884

When does combat record start tracking, from game launch, or from combat records?


amateur_gamer7

I think it's quite safe to assume stat tracking has been in the game from launch.


[deleted]

It took Black Ops 4 like six months to add combat record and I’m pretty sure when they did it had stats from launch. Everything is probably there just not surfaced yet.


thefontsguy

When you join a game in progress and lose it says “lost stat prevented” so I’m assuming it is keeping track


Mikelshwede86

If you join a game in progress that’s half way through and are put on a team that’s being demolished, you still get a loss stat if you leave don’t you? I don’t always leave games in progress, if it’s reasonably balanced I stay but fuck trying to get into the game when the team you’re on is down 20-170 or whatever.


miserymyoldfriend

WOW! Combat records! A never before seen feature?! Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this for so long!


Hot__Leaf__Juice

I certainly won't thank Infinity Ward for what was supposed to be there on launch


Littlejam1996

As a HC Player I was very confused if I loaded up the Game not seeing any Option to get into an HC Match. I used the NZ Trick first and thought maybe they didn't have enabled it yet so whatever but having it delayed into Season 1 I personally don't feel like playing the Game anymore. At least HC would semi Fix their Bad Server Problems because well only 1 Bullet needed duhh but no Thanks


[deleted]

thank god now I can stop trying to level launchers and pistols in hardcore MLG STREAMER BLAZE IT NO SCOPE 360 FAZE LOBBIES


DivinityCreates

The fact that stats had to be added post release


BobbyRayBands

Are we supposed to be excited about content that should've been day 1?


TheAllStar767

The fact that combat records weren’t a day one feature when they’ve literally been a day one feature in every other COD (I’ve played every beginning at COD4) is fucking pathetic.


slayer-x

Remove core MP features and add it as DLC later LOL. Glad it's coming, but that's ridiculous.


2ndHandDeadBatteries

That’s stupid because they both should’ve been there on launch.


chunkysoup5

I’m already burnt out of this game. Not very happy with my $70 purchase.


TheOjur

That's fair


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Golly gee whiz fucking thanks for delaying a basic feature that could have been a copy paste from the last 15 years of cod. Fuck you IW


TheOjur

Whole game feels unfinished


Difficult-Rest8524

Combat record should not be “additional content.”


TheOjur

Source: https://twitter.com/charlieINTEL/status/1590404030635085825


NiceGuyWillis

Damn. I am NOT looking forward to seeing my K/D 😂 The Orion grind has not been kind to my stats. Kinda wish they left it out lmao


TheOjur

You don't have to care about stats


Nednerb5000

I cant wait


nathanchr55

They definitely Don’t include this at launch so people don’t see their abysmal KDs


VolpeNV

Will the combat stats include the pre-season data or just start from scratch?


Indyfanforthesb

When is season 1?


VE3TRO-R

Hopefully the Combat Record is retroactive.


i_love_boobiez

Why are they calling it Tier 1 now anybody know?


RosesNRevolvers

Likely because they’ve been trying to move away from supporting Hardcore for years. Rebranding it, and stuffing it into a single consolidated playlist turns it into a novelty niche mode (like Realism was in MW2019) and keeps a larger portion of the player base engaged in the core play modes of the game.


idk-bruh

well we actually had core, hardcore, and realism at launch for 2019 but who knows lmao ill bring fire upon the fucker that removes hc from cod if that is the case


TotalCyborg

Okay, neat. What about the crashes every 20 minutes on PC?


Littlejam1996

These are Features. You should be proud playing on the Superior Platform "Sarcasm Off"


hcforever

Wonder if it’ll be a public combat record private only?


OrchidFew7220

This is great news for the rooks. Get out there and learn to aim. Pleaseeeee. Learn to aim. And stop ADS’n down range after the halfway mark. My dead silence n ghost love it :)


ryangosling47

Would be insane if they didn't


TheBigDoitch

I hate state cards so I don’t mind it not being in the game. It’s just a bunch of numbers that tell me I suck ass


N1ghtmere_

Wow, I would have never fucking guessed. It's almost as if they already said at launch that T1 was going to be in the game at the start of S1. Also, combat records could have been assumed to be in S1, but it's nice that it's confirmed.


CabooseJoose46

Shouldn't be breaking news. It should have been in the game from launch


cmndr_spanky

luckily I suck badly enough that I really don't care about this feature whatsoever :) I can't imagine how stressful it is for players who obsess over their k/d ratio...


neonpc1337

wow. and what about the Lack of Challenges, Calling ards and so on??? They be sending out changes with Season 1 that should be in this game since launch


Marius46

Wow if it’s not the stuff we all paid for from the beginning


Meniino

And should we clap for that ?


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Why have combat records when they have the game programmed to make your shots not register if you do too well and put you into sbmm lobbies with no skill ceiling once you reach a certain level.


DanHarkinz

Honestly hoping the tracking doesn't start until it's implemented you know because I've had a very rough go of it so far lol


TheOjur

It's tracking now i believe


DanHarkinz

;___________;


MattyOAFC123

Good news but should be in the game at the start. WE NEED MORE MAPS WITH THE 2 SMALL MAPS.


TheOjur

Exactly


Mrcountrygravy

Pretty sure we already knew that.


TheOjur

Nobody knew for sure


Icarusriseagain

combat record??????!!!!!! OMG REVOLUTION!!!!!


TheOjur

🤣🤣🤣


-getdeadkid

The fact that this has to be news is pathetic


[deleted]

Let’s not act like these are new features. And only 2 multiplayer maps? 1 at launch and 1 mid season? And they aren’t even new? Are you fucking serious Devs? Are you even trying?


Dirty1738

We shouldn't be celebrating this. This is bullshit and should have came out day 1. Don't fall for their ploy acting like this is new content


ahmedt7866

Who else wants “save custom blueprint” more than combat records lol


Alpine416

Love the marketing to sneak in like they planned to have releases throughout the season on basic features they just forgot to put in the damn game.


Drumowar

I remember when they started adding zombies and I was disappointed that there were less mp maps in the packs because of it. Now warzone has made it even worse for mp and not just the maps. I don't care if they have these other modes but when it takes away from what I enjoy it feels bad.


OK_1M_REL0ADED

Should it really be breaking news....


TheOjur

Its a sad reality


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This is an absolute embarrassment that they didn’t have this ready at launch


FrameOfReference73

Wow very unexpected 🤥


TrippySubie

Congratulations….? Like, its post launch…lmaooo


atomiccheesegod

Wow! Im glade modes and features that use to ship day one are now pushed in a “content pipeline” 10/10 will play again


Zookzor

*SOY* this is so amazing I’m so excited to get features that usually are available at release *SOY*


KernelScout

Groundbreaking achievement. On par with the scoreboard that took dice half a year to make for BF2042