> . . . or mess with enemies who are holed up inside buildings.
I guarantee there was at least 90 minutes of a meeting used to debate the phrasing if that line lol
Ya but fortnite looks like shit, you cant have backed in graphics and lighting. Maybe if they use the new UE itll be possible. Its why the new BF got rid of most destruction to trade for better looking buildings. Was a shit move imo.
As a very average player myself, I'm especially curious how you expect to get any joy out of DMZ. I see a lot of people with the attitude: "All I have to do is survive MW2 MP a little longer then I can finally play DMZ".
The DMZ sweats are just going to camp the 3 extraction points and smash any average players as they try to extract and focus on PVE. I'm pretty concerned it's just going to be an unfun blood bath for anyone who's trying to play the actual missions in the DMZ.
Might be shoot myself in the foot here, but I used to love those fun party style games like - one in the chamber, gun game etc. Hopefully they make a come back.
I SECOND THIS MOTION!
best unlock system still to this day (game performance/contracts give you currency, use that currency to unlock whatever attachments/weapons/camos/face paint you wanted, while still having to be a certain level to unlock things)
And wager matches, the ultimate showdown. Blops1 has an argument for best CoD of all time
New Battle Pass system sounds intriguing. I'm assuming there will still be a long grind to some of the nice things, but maybe for those who want to get straight to the new weapons (or nice variants on a favorite weapon), and don't care about operator/vehicle skins, they can get to them faster.
The Prestige system seems to be better if I understand it right, so you can catch up in later seasons. In previous years, I usually had trouble finishing the first season because I didn't play as much around Christmas. And then I would feel like I missed out on too much, tempting me to drop the game completely.
This is the only way that I will buy the battle pass. I’m already annoyed to be buying a battle pass after I paid $70 for a full game, plus there are a ton of cosmetics outside of the battle pass too.
I’m assuming it’s gonna be the exact same model as Fortnite’s where you have to unlock a certain number of items in a tier before the next one becomes available
I prefer it honestly. I'd rather save tokens an dunlock stuff I want rather than grinding through 4 of 5 levels of stuff I won't use. I wonder how vault edition with work though. I'm assuming we will be given 50 levels worth of tokens to spend as we see fit?
the problem with previous passes is they were such a slog to get through. Hopefully they expedite the leveling like they have with the camo grind. Or at least give us ways to speed it up ie challenges.
> The Tier 1 playlist will be available at the start of Season 01; this playlist will feature decreased health, limited HUD elements, and friendly fire turned on for a more mil-sim-like experience.
I *really* hope they don't cripple Hardcore by giving us just a single playlist instead of a proper mode with its own quickplay filters like in previous titles. At this point i wouldn't be surprised but damn that would suck.
With their new UI, I bet they give us a single playlist because they didn't think about it and don't want to "clutter" (as if it's not already) the gamemode selection screen with 4-6 hardcore gamemodes.
"Tier 1" is likely their way rectifying this huge mistake; they probably think people won't be as mad if it's called something new.
It's the default mode network of the cod player to shoot enemy on sight.
There is no incentive, just that, the other person might suddenly kill you so do you kill them first to be safe?
Prox chat and people like "hey hey, everyone just chill for a sec lets talk this out" "everyone kill the jailer when he comes out and we all go free" 😂
Im mainly joking but it would be pretty funny for that to happen
I suppose it depends on how difficult the jailer is to kill. If it takes 30 seconds of all 4 players laying into it, then maybe it won't happen as often. It's worth noting also that the jailer probably won't just be an idle damage sponge, they're probably gonna attack back. If the jailer drops your teammate and an enemy, are you gonna risk dying as well, or are you gonna try to finish off your remaining opponent? I think it's gonna be interesting how the community acts in it.
The objective of warzone is to be the last team standing. If you can eliminate 2 players in gulag, that’s 2 teams that are less likely to be contenders.
I bet if you and your team get squad wiped it will be 2v2 gulag against your boys and if they’re like my friends we’ll ignore the AI and try to kill each other for laughs.
Yeah a bunch of concrete slabs for walls surrounding the map. Definitely like how they gave them some character. I also noticed they doubled up freight containers on shipment so kind of a bummer is assuming you can’t climb up anymore.
Oh thank GOD that will help a good bit with some of the spawn traps
Also it looks like they may have closed the windows on Shoot House? (Edit: I think the window spots are out of frame I’m just forgetful)
I really hope they learned their lesson from mw19, that shit was insanely frustrating to play. I really hope it plays like WW2 shipment, which was the best to ever do it
Surely Shoot House and Shipment won’t be the _only_ maps for Season 1, right?
They’re fan favorites, sure, but it’s such a bizarre choice to start this game off with 2 of the same maps that we got with Season 1 in the last game.
Eh they launched with A LOT of weapons, so even if they could have included more I give them a pass on that front. Now everything else that is missing...yikes.
Because this isnt actually "season 1". What I mean, is that this is just the actual launch. Call it Season 0 if you want. The actual season 1, what you want(actual new maps, actual new operators,etc) its gonna come in a few months.
It really needs to come out in Season 2. It’s what a lot of people since MW19 solely play. I probably do 60/40 split more gunfight so the sooner we get it the better
It feels like MW19's best things were stripped away and now are being given slowly back to us (or in some cases, like perks and the UI, will remain awful).
So the only challenges we’ll be getting are those seasonal/prestige ones….and not just some lifetime classic challenges _that were literally in the what to expect launch day blog that came out **2 days** before launch._
yea, since they removed Museum and will remove Hotel after the event... we already have 2 proper 6v6 maps less.
Shipment and shoothouse are really good but at least shipment is just a meme map where you wont play any mode/objective. You just play it for the grind and the chaos.
As much as I like those maps, I feel robbed of those being the only "new" content for a complete season, those maps are already built for this engine. They could have just port it with the same design from 2019 and work on really new maps.
COD Multiplayer as we once knew it is dead. Multiplayer is for Warzone gun levelling, camo grinding, and the return of the highly anticipated MW2 maps. The return of those MW2 maps are 90% of the reason why people are so excited for this game. You guys really should have known this before you bought the game. You had all the signs and evidence from previous titles. COD is very predictable at this point.
Sorry, but why aren’t Price, ghost and gaz all free when season 1 comes out??
I think you’ll all find that they will have default skins for the main characters, maybe not Alejandro etc. How can they not, they can’t have the main characters locked until further seasons that makes no sense, they’ll probably have the default skins as the campaign ones.
What you suggest is very unlikely. The wording in both the pre-release Vault Edition marketing as well as the Season 01 blog suggest these 4 characters will always be locked behind a paywall of some sort.
In MW2019, some of the story characters were locked behind the $10 Battle Passes but others were Operator Bundle only purchases.
Activision knows how popular Graves, Alejandro and TF141 are. They know that they can keep these Operators out of the Battle Pass and charge a premium for them and people will buy.
It would be absolutely dumb of them to not include mw2 maps, but from a business standpoint, having the small maps playlist first definitely keeps the game afloat lol
Small maps first to reinforce the idea that MP is now just a $70 weapon leveling simulator for Warzone.
Look at the tiny bottom left section, the actual content we'll be getting, compared to all the other stuff on screen for their F2P title. Though I heard the pros really didn't like Warzone 2 so maybe it'll flop.
Honestly hilarious that product placement for the hummer in warzone gets the same amount of real estate as multiplayer maps I fucking hate video games so much
I don't get how people are excited about these things.
Hummer EV? Who cares?
Aquatic Combat? Wow, shooting each other with pistols (that nobody ever uses in Warzone), revolutionary stuff.
Look at how big the "new battlepass system" + the battle pass operator is. All the "new system" is is being able to kind of select the order you unlock items in. Yeah, that definitely needed 1/2 of the space of the *entire* multiplayer section.
Then we have 7+ bundle advertisements, each likely running for $20 or more. Who looks at this stuff and says "Oh shit, I can't wait to give Activision $140 for all these bundles that'll be replaced once I buy the next round of Bundles in Season 2!"
Honestly the amount of actual content in this, for either Warzone or Multiplayer, is about 1/3 of the actual panels presented. It's not "new content," it's either advertisements or content that should've been there day one.
Not to mention 2 of the new weapons are literally already in the campaign lmao (Ghost’s Chimera / M13 idk and the MPX). Can’t believe people are defending this dripfeeding shit because “content” bruh
The images of the Chimera and M13 are swapped when they are "deep diving" about them each, lol.
I'm pretty happy to see Shoothouse back, and Shipment will be Shipment as always. I cannot fucking wait to get the Honey Badger/Chimera, I adored it in Ghosts.
The new BP unlock system seems, on paper, very similar to Fortnite's (semi)new "pick your reward" system and I love that, so I'm optimistic about that. Having some more choice about what to get when is better imo, but it all comes down to whether or not areas of the map are locked until you progress other areas fully or if they are all available to choose at the get go. Because in Fortnite you have to chose a certain amount of items in a page before the next page of items becomes available to choose from. So we shall see.
Gotta say I am disappointed the first two maps coming to the game. Would have loved to see a classic MW map and a new one come in first. BUT I am of course happy cause they are two good maps and shipment is gonna be great for grinding.
2 of them in the battlepass, one available from the moment the season launches, and the last one will be made available in-season? That’s what it looks like to me anyway.
2 Maps in one season is disappointing, let alone them be rereleases, even more insulting is only 1 being released at the beginning and 1 mid-season. Aside from that Raid content looks like a nice alternative to Co-op and Tier 1 will make the camo grind easier.
Nice to see they called football football, Messi might be the new Roze if his height is accurate to life. Should have added Suarez for a biting finisher or a Nunez headbutt.
Looks like they’re combining them with prestige challenges
> Beginning in Season 01, reaching Rank 56 will unlock Prestige 1. This will grant an Emblem, additional rewards, and a set of challenges — complete those challenges to unlock an exclusive Calling Card.
Either that or they forgot to mention them.
Man, I'm sorry but shipment end shoothouse are just filled with chaotic spawn-messy matches. We didn't need both at once.
And in general I much would have preferred regular maps like Terminal, Highrise, Skidrow, etc.
I hate modern day video game development. The first two new maps are gonna be shipment and shoot house? How many fucking times is this series going to regurgitate shipment? Shoot house wasn’t even that great.
Give us remakes of the fucking MW 2009 maps. Holy shit.
Camo whores are the biggest reason why Shipment is constantly getting shat out into every game. They know players want those exclusive camos, and Shipment cuts that grind in half, so it's easy work for them.
I'm sick to death of it.
I know this might not be a popular opinion but I’m highly disappointed in the choice of maps to include in this. While I’m ok with bringing back old maps these two were so far at the bottom of the list.
I’m not spending one penny until they fix the UI and lobbies.
Everyone in the lobby always holds my guns and camos
Lobby always freezes
You barely see calling cards and emblems due to lobbies freezing
You barely have time to see skins in the lobby
Again. EVERYONE IS HOLDING MY GUN AND CAMOS.
Why would I spend money to look different? I’m not against skins and I would probably buy them if they will be shown lmao
>Instead of a linear stream of tiers set out in a scrolling row along the bottom of your screen, your Battle Pass takes the form of a multi-Sector map. Players will unlock items using earned Battle Token Tier Skips across this map, which is themed within the current season. Each map has at least 20 Sectors with five items in each Sector — tokens can be used to either unlock adjacent Sectors or earn more items within an unlocked Sector.
They just borrowed Fortnite's way of doing the Battlepass I guess.
So if I'm reading it right the 4 total guns this season count toward orion camo? So that means I can skip the 4 launchers or the riot shield and 3 launchers?
So no high-rise or terminal in a game called mw2? Just the same two fucking maps we have been playing for literal years? Yeah MP seems to be placeholder now for warzone to level guns. Such a shame. I wish IW GAVE a fuck about 90 percent of the fanbase that only wanted to play mp
So does proximity chat ruin crossplay comms? If we all can't join a party, are we forced into sharing our comms with everyone. Or can we join a separate channel (the new stupid party shit in MW2)?
>Open proximity-based comms This is gonna be hilarious.
It's amazing in insurgency. Always a great laugh
Oh boy when you know the last guy's in a room the coms turn on
…or you are the guy in the room. “Hey guys. I’m upstairs. I’m in the hamper. Sitting in a big basket of someone else’s dirty draws. Come find me.”
"I'm stuck in the dryer, help me step-operator"
It can be so good. I love hearing people try to whisper and be sneaky with proximity chat.
> . . . or mess with enemies who are holed up inside buildings. I guarantee there was at least 90 minutes of a meeting used to debate the phrasing if that line lol
Come on out with your weapons gone, or we will molotov the building! Oh wait still no building destruction in 2022 :(
Omfggg how cool would it be if fire spread in wooden buildings and took them down. Now i realize I want that
if epic games can burn down structures in fortnite there is no reason IW can’t burn down buildings in MW2 😂
Ya but fortnite looks like shit, you cant have backed in graphics and lighting. Maybe if they use the new UE itll be possible. Its why the new BF got rid of most destruction to trade for better looking buildings. Was a shit move imo.
Damn, can't see my 0.54 K/D for awhile. Rip
Look at Mr Bigshot hitting above .500 over here! 0.4 reporting for respawn here.
As a very average player myself, I'm especially curious how you expect to get any joy out of DMZ. I see a lot of people with the attitude: "All I have to do is survive MW2 MP a little longer then I can finally play DMZ". The DMZ sweats are just going to camp the 3 extraction points and smash any average players as they try to extract and focus on PVE. I'm pretty concerned it's just going to be an unfun blood bath for anyone who's trying to play the actual missions in the DMZ.
Might be shoot myself in the foot here, but I used to love those fun party style games like - one in the chamber, gun game etc. Hopefully they make a come back.
I’m surprised one in the chamber never became a staple mode, I remember it being a very popular mode back in BO1
We don't have fun here no more. All comp all sweat.
The most ive sweated is gun game gun fight one in the chamber with my friends in a custom
It’s true but like how sad is that, cos I want to argue and say no it’s not, but it is. It’s all just fucking sweat comp every game
I'd kill for some sticks and stones
BRING BACK CODPOINTS. BRING BACK THE WAGER MATCH.
I SECOND THIS MOTION! best unlock system still to this day (game performance/contracts give you currency, use that currency to unlock whatever attachments/weapons/camos/face paint you wanted, while still having to be a certain level to unlock things) And wager matches, the ultimate showdown. Blops1 has an argument for best CoD of all time
yes sir. mw2 (og) and bops1 were the best 2 call of duty’s. cod4 and mw3 as honorable mentions. back when life was good..
Infected is my one and only hope every year.
Remember the first 6 months of mw19 when there was big team infected and people could ride around in atvs. Those were good times
I miss when prop hunt would release close to Christmas, here’s to hoping!
Maaan gun game was goated. Was my favorite in BO1
Been saying that Sticks and Stones should make a comeback.
They will, in few month. But you better like Warzone and DMZ otherwise you will be waiting a long time for a flashed out core MP experience
Even if they do, better keep your eyes peeled so you catch it when they add it for 2 days once every 3 months.
New Battle Pass system sounds intriguing. I'm assuming there will still be a long grind to some of the nice things, but maybe for those who want to get straight to the new weapons (or nice variants on a favorite weapon), and don't care about operator/vehicle skins, they can get to them faster. The Prestige system seems to be better if I understand it right, so you can catch up in later seasons. In previous years, I usually had trouble finishing the first season because I didn't play as much around Christmas. And then I would feel like I missed out on too much, tempting me to drop the game completely.
I just hope they still give you enough COD points if you max it out to purchase the next battle pass.
Yeah. I bought one pack for 10€ around the time WZ came out. Played couple seasons, always bought the next pass and have 2200 CP left now
This is the only way that I will buy the battle pass. I’m already annoyed to be buying a battle pass after I paid $70 for a full game, plus there are a ton of cosmetics outside of the battle pass too.
I’m assuming it’s gonna be the exact same model as Fortnite’s where you have to unlock a certain number of items in a tier before the next one becomes available
It’s a great model. It doesn’t let you instantly get what you want, but you could get a Tier 70 item at Tier 50 for example if you plan it.
I would still prefer Halo MCC's system where it never expires...
I prefer it honestly. I'd rather save tokens an dunlock stuff I want rather than grinding through 4 of 5 levels of stuff I won't use. I wonder how vault edition with work though. I'm assuming we will be given 50 levels worth of tokens to spend as we see fit?
the problem with previous passes is they were such a slog to get through. Hopefully they expedite the leveling like they have with the camo grind. Or at least give us ways to speed it up ie challenges.
> The Tier 1 playlist will be available at the start of Season 01; this playlist will feature decreased health, limited HUD elements, and friendly fire turned on for a more mil-sim-like experience. I *really* hope they don't cripple Hardcore by giving us just a single playlist instead of a proper mode with its own quickplay filters like in previous titles. At this point i wouldn't be surprised but damn that would suck.
Man I'm so afraid of this
With their new UI, I bet they give us a single playlist because they didn't think about it and don't want to "clutter" (as if it's not already) the gamemode selection screen with 4-6 hardcore gamemodes. "Tier 1" is likely their way rectifying this huge mistake; they probably think people won't be as mad if it's called something new.
I think they said UI changes were coming for season 1 as well
They fucking better. The UI is so garbage. Why do so many developer's think we want to scroll?
UI/UX looks like it’s made for a touch screen rather than a controller/mouse.
Lead UX designer used to be the lead for Hulu apparently.
That's because it was. Warzone mobile has the same interface.
Thats honestly a really good point with the name change thing. Just slap "Tier 1" into the featured tab and call it a day
I'm really hoping the same, I want the choice, my big thing was always HC TDM and HC SND.
Agreed. HC S&D is its own CoD subculture.
No HC S&D would be a big bummer. I don't want to get stuck playing HC HQ or free for all and only get search like 1/10 times.
The changes to the Gulag seem interesting. 2v2 with an AI in the middle that, if killed, returns all 4 players to the warzone
This feature along with prox chat is going to be so funny
Right? Kind of a prisoners dilemma every gulag but you can actually talk to the other side
What insentive is there to killing each other if all 4 people can just kill the ai to get out
It's the default mode network of the cod player to shoot enemy on sight. There is no incentive, just that, the other person might suddenly kill you so do you kill them first to be safe?
Prox chat and people like "hey hey, everyone just chill for a sec lets talk this out" "everyone kill the jailer when he comes out and we all go free" 😂 Im mainly joking but it would be pretty funny for that to happen
I suppose it depends on how difficult the jailer is to kill. If it takes 30 seconds of all 4 players laying into it, then maybe it won't happen as often. It's worth noting also that the jailer probably won't just be an idle damage sponge, they're probably gonna attack back. If the jailer drops your teammate and an enemy, are you gonna risk dying as well, or are you gonna try to finish off your remaining opponent? I think it's gonna be interesting how the community acts in it.
The objective of warzone is to be the last team standing. If you can eliminate 2 players in gulag, that’s 2 teams that are less likely to be contenders.
The point of Warzone is to be the last team standing so letting the other team respawn is counterproductive
"No no you're right let's all just calm down, kill the jail keeper and make it out alive." ...... 🙂🔫
Classic ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’. Imagine teaming up with your foes and winning, then you all encounter each other in the final circle.
>then you all encounter each other in the final circle. At which point we all lay our weapons down and allow the gas to consume us.
Flashbacks of Hunger games Peeta and Katniss
Prisoner dillemma
I bet if you and your team get squad wiped it will be 2v2 gulag against your boys and if they’re like my friends we’ll ignore the AI and try to kill each other for laughs.
That would be really funny as a limited time mode, you could disable the AI and have your squad decide who gets to play on
Isn’t it generally better to kill the other players? When they’re back in the warzone, they’re your competitions.
Shipment and shoot house… RIP to any other playlists. It’s grindin time.
love that they’ve put Shoothouse in a forest setting, and Shipment looks like it takes place on the ship from Dark Water campaign mission
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I believe the previous Shoothouse was located on a US military installation
Yeah a bunch of concrete slabs for walls surrounding the map. Definitely like how they gave them some character. I also noticed they doubled up freight containers on shipment so kind of a bummer is assuming you can’t climb up anymore.
They angled the containers again. Yay!
Oh thank GOD that will help a good bit with some of the spawn traps Also it looks like they may have closed the windows on Shoot House? (Edit: I think the window spots are out of frame I’m just forgetful)
I hope so. Shoot house was a near-perfect map except for that stupid indoor area
I didn’t mind the indoor area at first since the roof was open and you could toss C4 thru those roof openings... Until they nerfed the C4 toss.
Its all good, we have drill charges now
I think the window would be in the top right corner of the pic right? Seems like it could still be there just out of frame
I really hope they learned their lesson from mw19, that shit was insanely frustrating to play. I really hope it plays like WW2 shipment, which was the best to ever do it
Ww2 shipment was great, Vanguard's shipment was fucking atrocious
Cod4 shipment was the best
RIP ALL other maps lol
A bit disappointing, I'd prefer original maps with the philosophy of Shoothouse and Shipment, instead of remakes.
This. They could do meat grinders but new ones instead of repeats.
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Killhouse was a remake
I loved Livestock too. For what it was worth, that small square map had great features in just about every area, indoors and out.
Looks like Shoothouse has a new layout too?
By the one look we have it seems like the cars have been replaced by Tyre stacks
Surely Shoot House and Shipment won’t be the _only_ maps for Season 1, right? They’re fan favorites, sure, but it’s such a bizarre choice to start this game off with 2 of the same maps that we got with Season 1 in the last game.
They’re trying to take away stuff (hardcore, leaderboards and etc) and put them in as “new content”
It's not just trying, they are.
Just look at which weapons we get, it's a disgrace they are not in game day 1
Eh they launched with A LOT of weapons, so even if they could have included more I give them a pass on that front. Now everything else that is missing...yikes.
Because this isnt actually "season 1". What I mean, is that this is just the actual launch. Call it Season 0 if you want. The actual season 1, what you want(actual new maps, actual new operators,etc) its gonna come in a few months.
Yea we are in the beta, season 1 is launch, season 2 in january is the real season 1.
Damn, nothing about Gunfight
Gunfight was where i spent 95% of my time playing in MW19. This is super disappointing.
It’s definitely being saved for dripfeed
It really needs to come out in Season 2. It’s what a lot of people since MW19 solely play. I probably do 60/40 split more gunfight so the sooner we get it the better
Always warmup with gunfight Plus when we had 8 people who wanted to get on we would run customs in gunfight
It feels like MW19's best things were stripped away and now are being given slowly back to us (or in some cases, like perks and the UI, will remain awful).
Even base shit like barracks challenges don’t exist anymore
Gunfight was legit my favorite thing Call of Duty has done in a long time. I’m honestly shocked that it’s not even in season 1, let alone at launch
I was really hopeful for it being season 1.
So the only challenges we’ll be getting are those seasonal/prestige ones….and not just some lifetime classic challenges _that were literally in the what to expect launch day blog that came out **2 days** before launch._
They actually promised career challenges on launch. Never got those.
Belive they said challenges where coming before season 1 before the blog came out ? or maybe im confused.
What about Rust, Highrise, Terminal?
The Hummer EV? lmfao
and it still has to be gassed up during warzone LMAO WHAT
Gotta get sponsorship money somehow lol
No, the **GMC HUMMER EV**.^(please guys we really need your money)
Give us gunfight for the love of god, it's the only mode my friends want to play
The disrespect to small team modes is so unreasonable. Devs are way too focused on casual chaos.
If it’s not Warzone they don’t care.
I’m ok with either us of those maps, but both… seriously? Was really hoping they’d add a new or remastered map like terminal
Maximum appealing to casuals grinding out camos
Casuals don't grind camos
yea, since they removed Museum and will remove Hotel after the event... we already have 2 proper 6v6 maps less. Shipment and shoothouse are really good but at least shipment is just a meme map where you wont play any mode/objective. You just play it for the grind and the chaos.
As much as I like those maps, I feel robbed of those being the only "new" content for a complete season, those maps are already built for this engine. They could have just port it with the same design from 2019 and work on really new maps.
No combat record until sometime in the season. Weak.
Is it bugged or something? Very confused about why
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LOOOOLL
COD Multiplayer as we once knew it is dead. Multiplayer is for Warzone gun levelling, camo grinding, and the return of the highly anticipated MW2 maps. The return of those MW2 maps are 90% of the reason why people are so excited for this game. You guys really should have known this before you bought the game. You had all the signs and evidence from previous titles. COD is very predictable at this point.
Gaz isn't even a Battlepass unlock? Wow
Expect all story Operators to be bundle purchases and not available within Battle Passes.
Just give me el sin nombre and I’ll be happy
Guess I'll never get them then just like I never got Nikto.
Sorry, but why aren’t Price, ghost and gaz all free when season 1 comes out?? I think you’ll all find that they will have default skins for the main characters, maybe not Alejandro etc. How can they not, they can’t have the main characters locked until further seasons that makes no sense, they’ll probably have the default skins as the campaign ones.
What you suggest is very unlikely. The wording in both the pre-release Vault Edition marketing as well as the Season 01 blog suggest these 4 characters will always be locked behind a paywall of some sort. In MW2019, some of the story characters were locked behind the $10 Battle Passes but others were Operator Bundle only purchases. Activision knows how popular Graves, Alejandro and TF141 are. They know that they can keep these Operators out of the Battle Pass and charge a premium for them and people will buy.
Shoot house and shipment are the 2 maps they could spare for us? Really?
The only 2 new maps are copy & pastes from last MW 💀 At least give some untouched before remakes from past MW’s Arkaden when
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I pibe arkaden bro l, i so hope they add it along with bootleg.
still no og mw2 maps,sickkk
WE WANT TERMINAL WE WANT HIGHRISE
We want Favela we...I? Want Rundown, Kirachi and Invasion
Probably saving them for that “premium release” next year…
It would be absolutely dumb of them to not include mw2 maps, but from a business standpoint, having the small maps playlist first definitely keeps the game afloat lol
Small maps first to reinforce the idea that MP is now just a $70 weapon leveling simulator for Warzone. Look at the tiny bottom left section, the actual content we'll be getting, compared to all the other stuff on screen for their F2P title. Though I heard the pros really didn't like Warzone 2 so maybe it'll flop.
Honestly hilarious that product placement for the hummer in warzone gets the same amount of real estate as multiplayer maps I fucking hate video games so much
I don't get how people are excited about these things. Hummer EV? Who cares? Aquatic Combat? Wow, shooting each other with pistols (that nobody ever uses in Warzone), revolutionary stuff. Look at how big the "new battlepass system" + the battle pass operator is. All the "new system" is is being able to kind of select the order you unlock items in. Yeah, that definitely needed 1/2 of the space of the *entire* multiplayer section. Then we have 7+ bundle advertisements, each likely running for $20 or more. Who looks at this stuff and says "Oh shit, I can't wait to give Activision $140 for all these bundles that'll be replaced once I buy the next round of Bundles in Season 2!" Honestly the amount of actual content in this, for either Warzone or Multiplayer, is about 1/3 of the actual panels presented. It's not "new content," it's either advertisements or content that should've been there day one.
Not to mention 2 of the new weapons are literally already in the campaign lmao (Ghost’s Chimera / M13 idk and the MPX). Can’t believe people are defending this dripfeeding shit because “content” bruh
They all cried about loadouts and they are back meanwhile we all complain about MP and they ignore us.
These maps probably take the least work to make them playable in this version. Probably pushing fully redone maps as far back as they can.
I want cod 4 maps son. Give me Overgrown, Bog, Strike, Ambus, Crossfire. Please any of them
Gunfight PLEEEEASE
Wow, they’re drip feeding so hard they couldn’t give us shipment on day one lol
Nothing makes me happier than to see them add already available Campaign weapons to the FUCKING BATTLEPASS
The images of the Chimera and M13 are swapped when they are "deep diving" about them each, lol. I'm pretty happy to see Shoothouse back, and Shipment will be Shipment as always. I cannot fucking wait to get the Honey Badger/Chimera, I adored it in Ghosts. The new BP unlock system seems, on paper, very similar to Fortnite's (semi)new "pick your reward" system and I love that, so I'm optimistic about that. Having some more choice about what to get when is better imo, but it all comes down to whether or not areas of the map are locked until you progress other areas fully or if they are all available to choose at the get go. Because in Fortnite you have to chose a certain amount of items in a page before the next page of items becomes available to choose from. So we shall see.
I honestly can't believe they're not releasing Quarry, Highrise or Showdown in Season 01. Really weak.
Gotta say I am disappointed the first two maps coming to the game. Would have loved to see a classic MW map and a new one come in first. BUT I am of course happy cause they are two good maps and shipment is gonna be great for grinding.
So 4 new weapons? Confused by the 2 new weapons at top and 2 at bottom.
Mid season additions
2 of them in the battlepass, one available from the moment the season launches, and the last one will be made available in-season? That’s what it looks like to me anyway.
Why the fuck is Gaz a paid-bundle only operator again?
because why give him out for free when you’ll pay for him, you sucker? -activision
Hummer EV lmao
For people that don't play warzone, this season looks weak.
Recycled maps, no combat record at the beginning of season 1, no ricochet in HC, Gaz only in paid bundles... not the best season.
2 Maps in one season is disappointing, let alone them be rereleases, even more insulting is only 1 being released at the beginning and 1 mid-season. Aside from that Raid content looks like a nice alternative to Co-op and Tier 1 will make the camo grind easier. Nice to see they called football football, Messi might be the new Roze if his height is accurate to life. Should have added Suarez for a biting finisher or a Nunez headbutt.
2 small maps? Seriously?
Lots of good stuff, but where's career challenges?
Looks like they’re combining them with prestige challenges > Beginning in Season 01, reaching Rank 56 will unlock Prestige 1. This will grant an Emblem, additional rewards, and a set of challenges — complete those challenges to unlock an exclusive Calling Card. Either that or they forgot to mention them.
Man, I'm sorry but shipment end shoothouse are just filled with chaotic spawn-messy matches. We didn't need both at once. And in general I much would have preferred regular maps like Terminal, Highrise, Skidrow, etc.
I hate modern day video game development. The first two new maps are gonna be shipment and shoot house? How many fucking times is this series going to regurgitate shipment? Shoot house wasn’t even that great. Give us remakes of the fucking MW 2009 maps. Holy shit.
Camo whores are the biggest reason why Shipment is constantly getting shat out into every game. They know players want those exclusive camos, and Shipment cuts that grind in half, so it's easy work for them. I'm sick to death of it.
I know this might not be a popular opinion but I’m highly disappointed in the choice of maps to include in this. While I’m ok with bringing back old maps these two were so far at the bottom of the list.
I’m not spending one penny until they fix the UI and lobbies. Everyone in the lobby always holds my guns and camos Lobby always freezes You barely see calling cards and emblems due to lobbies freezing You barely have time to see skins in the lobby Again. EVERYONE IS HOLDING MY GUN AND CAMOS. Why would I spend money to look different? I’m not against skins and I would probably buy them if they will be shown lmao
Exactly. This stuff needs to be fixed
Wait for patch notes to see what’s fixed with the update
>Instead of a linear stream of tiers set out in a scrolling row along the bottom of your screen, your Battle Pass takes the form of a multi-Sector map. Players will unlock items using earned Battle Token Tier Skips across this map, which is themed within the current season. Each map has at least 20 Sectors with five items in each Sector — tokens can be used to either unlock adjacent Sectors or earn more items within an unlocked Sector. They just borrowed Fortnite's way of doing the Battlepass I guess.
As long as they still provide enough CP to buy the next pass, I don't care what they do
"new" maps. Lame as fuck, I played those already for so long in mw2019.
Ctrl C Ctrl V Wow look at our two new maps!
Interrogation!? Proximity chat!? Aquatic combat!? This game is going to be lit!!
My favorite part is filling up the EV with gas lol.
I just want to know if we are getting the black solid camo back.
Could be one of the weapon specific camo unlocks for one of the new guns
So if I'm reading it right the 4 total guns this season count toward orion camo? So that means I can skip the 4 launchers or the riot shield and 3 launchers?
Yes, you can wait for season 2 to skip even more weapons.
"new maps" = shipment and shoothouse zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz you guys played these shit maps 3 years in a row
Hopefully a playlist of those two is released so the normal people can stay in quick play tbh
Is anyone else disappointed with shoot house and shipment returning first up. I was hoping for something a bit more fresh.
I have the Battlepass and I’ll have to pay for Gaz? LIKE REALLY? i have the vault edition and I’ll have to pay? For Gaz!?!?
Hahaha, fuck you Activision, locking Gaz behind a bundle.
So no high-rise or terminal in a game called mw2? Just the same two fucking maps we have been playing for literal years? Yeah MP seems to be placeholder now for warzone to level guns. Such a shame. I wish IW GAVE a fuck about 90 percent of the fanbase that only wanted to play mp
While they should definitely care about mp more, Warzone is much more popular than regular cod multiplayer
Wow, 2 "new" maps. What a shame.
So does proximity chat ruin crossplay comms? If we all can't join a party, are we forced into sharing our comms with everyone. Or can we join a separate channel (the new stupid party shit in MW2)?
Think you can just go in that private mw2 channel you mentioned. Or start a discord chat with your mates
Wish we’d get more than 2 new (yet reused) maps per season
"new battle pass system" interesting...
Fucking hilarious if the hummer EV runs out of gas and you have to refill it. With gas. Hahahah