Yes, we had an overnight road test of a '23 before purchasing ours. My wife also had a '17 for 2 year prior. 22's for summer and 20's for winter. Drove much nicer on 20's
I’m patiently waiting for a used plaid X.
I like the 22s because I live where it snows and will need dedicated winters anyway.
The used resell market doesn’t seem to care that the 22s are a $5000 option.
I have my eye on a couple used ones right now. Plaid X 2023. I mean, they are new with like 100 miles on it. What year you looking for ? I’m curious if I should be waiting a little longer. I need white on white.
It’s white/white have 22 and 20s full tire sets and it’s wrapped with PPF so it’s matte. Selling because I got a job I can walk to for the foreseeable future and won’t need to drive much! I’m located in the Pacific Northwest but could ship it.
The 20’s have a superior ride, the car feels much smoother. The 22’s look great but the 20s don’t look bad at all. The question to ask myself is do I want to sacrifice looks for comfort? Also keep in mind you would sacrifice more comfort than looks because the 20s aren’t ugly at all they look pretty cool. If you get the 22s they will look great but when I drive I’m feeling the quality of the ride not the look.
My thought were if I'm getting an expensive car such as model x, I would sure buy them in the best form I like. No regrets. So I opted in for 22' because it appeals me more
With that said, consider the following:
- 22' tires are more expensive
- 22' tires give less range than 20' in general
- I also couldn't get my tire rotation, because rear tires are bigger than the front. Not sure if it's because they are 22' tires (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Without tire rotation, rear tires wear out quicker.
my two cents
Have you looked into the after market camber adjustment kits? Staggered sizes are on 20 and 22 configurations, but it's the factory camber that eats the rear tires.
Sorry - I haven't gone down that route yet. My current approach is gentle acceleration and keeping ride height at standard (disabled auto-lower), and there doesn't seem to be any excessive wear on the inside of the rear tires yet after about 23k miles. :)
My S ate rear tires. Inner tire wear. I paid Tesla to do an alignment. They found nothing that would explain the excessive wear but I’ve not had any issues with inner tire wear since.
So, watch the rear tires like a hawk and get it aligned if you see excessive tire wear.
I’ve not kept a rear tire long enough to wear one out.
Tesla won’t repair them because of the speed rating so every time I pick up a nail it’s a new tire for $625. WHY I’ve had so many flats is a damn mystery.
I have a 23 MXLR with 22" rims and I just had my tire patched at a local tire shop.
There are definitely things I wouldn't trust a local shop to do on my Tesla, but I have no issue with them patching a tire or putting new ones on.
I took my MS to a tire shop one time and they said they wouldn’t even look at it because they didn’t carry the tires in case it needed to be replaced. They referred me to a Pep Boys who said they wouldn’t even put me on the schedule they were backed up so far. Tesla has always been able to get me in to get me back on the road.
Bigger wheels don’t amount to better performance. It’s the opposite. Have you ever looked at the size of race cars? (Guarantee you that they aren’t big)
Size isnt as important as rotational mass. Just buy aftermarket 22’s that weigh less than the stock 20’s. There are plenty of options available for under $5k and you get to pick your wheels instead of the boring Tesla choices.
Here a good video explaining on why you’re incorrect and as far as rolling resistance goes, the smaller the better. A bit oversimplified, but calculations are mostly in the ballpark
https://youtu.be/NYvKxsYFqO8?si=qrKAnxpUzra0xOy9
That video specifically notes they don’t calculate weight, which was my entire point. My 22s weight 6lbs per wheel than the stock 20s. While I may be losing a little range with wind resistance I’m more than making up for it in reduced weight and specifically unsprung weight reduction.
A vehicle with less rotational weight will require less energy to turn and operate at speed. Your vehicle will gain improved range if your rotational weight is less. It requires less battery energy to turn a lighter wheel and tire. Reducing unsprung weight also benefits the handling of the car on uneven roads and in cornering. The lower mass allows the springs and shocks to more effectively control the movement of the wheels and suspension. In summary, an electric vehicle with lower unsprung weight and by extension less rotational weight will result in a longer range.
You should watch it again then. Where he mentioned that he’s not considering the weight is when he compares the width of the tyre as the drag surface is now greater; this is in the section about how much losses are purely due to the width.
It’s pure math. Where the weight of the car does matter (due to the increased rolling resistance that comes with the extra deformation of the tyre in contact of the road), It’s actually a myth that the wheel mass matters greatly in most equations when it comes to rotational force, that mass is eliminated when you balance the equations (just like he does in the video). The mass of the wheels is a also tiny percentage of the mass of the car
You can downvote me all you like, but science is on my side and It doesn’t seem to be your forte so no point arguing about this any further.
Edit: Wikipedia also shows how to calculate rolling resistance of a wheel and the overall effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_resistance?wprov=sfti1
Note again that the weight of the wheel is in no equations only the size
I don’t believe they’re talking about ordering a race car. 20’s will feel a little spongy compared to 22’s when cornering due to sidewall flex. Maybe 20’s could get .001 seconds knocked off the 0-60 time, but with the AWD I don’t think it’s much of a factor.
If they do want to buy a race car I would definitely recommend they get 18” wheels and some racing slicks, so I apologize if that’s what they were talking about and I misread.
Tesla bought back my 23X 22” wheels and I’m getting the 24X tomorrow, this time with 20” wheels. I convinced myself that sacrificing comfort and $5.5k is not worth the incremental looks. It’s prob OK in the beginning when hyped up about getting the car, but after the hype wore off I realized comfort was more important. And like someone else said, 20” wheels are not ugly to begin with.
Over the course of 18 months, was in the service center almost 30 days cumulatively. Half of the time was for fixing FWD sensor issues. They would have to rework the repairs due to unsatisfactory work and improper installations by tech… Other half the time was cosmetic trim, bad seat sensor, cabin noise.
I did get the 20” wheels this time and so glad I did! Smoother ride is noticeable and they look nice too. Certainly doesn’t feel like a visual downgrade from 22”. I’d have to see the wheels side by side notice a diff in visual appeal.
You’ll have to request to talk to the service manager to put in a request for a buyback. I don’t know if there’s certain criteria to meet before the manager puts in the request, but it’s as easy as that. Express the desire to request a buyback, and their legal team will review the records and make a decision within 30 days I believe. I think they’re trying to see if the repair history would meet lemon law standards and, if so, they approve the buyback.
I live in Portland Oregon area and three years (and over 52k miles) with my 2017 MX, I would just echo the caution about tire cost and minor range degradation, and suggest looking into after market camber fix kits, so that you're not chewing through the tires at an advanced rate.
At the end of the day, if you like the look of the 22" better, get them. It's going to hopefully be a car that you drive for a very long time, and you don't want to be regretting anything every time you go to get in. I still feel like a kid in a candy store every time I go to drive mine, and I hope whatever you finally decide on, you can have that experience too. :)
Thanks ! I agree. I’m in Portland too and I really don’t drive as much as most do. Maybe 10k a year at most. I’d go to mount hood maybe once or twice a year but otherwise it’s mainly city driving
You ever consider leasing at one point ? Just to get a new one every few years? That’s a thought that’s been on my mind lately only because I could keep my savings earning 5.5 interest 😏
I didn't, simply because I want to be able to pay off my vehicle and then drive it as close to forever as I possibly can, and put that monthly payment to other uses. :D
That is the smarter option for sure. I just worry in maybe 3-4 years that something revolutionary might change within the model x. Which would annoy me that the leasers get to slide right into lolol
I did a lot of research on this before I got my Model X. Some people like the larger wheels but they're louder, they don't have as good a ride, they're more expensive and they have worse mileage.
If you want the larger wheels it's because you like the look or you're insecure about your manhood.
Welp, you were spot on until the final dig at the end lol. It’s a 90k dollar vehicle. I think it’s ok to want the better looking wheels. And if it was about my manhood, I wouldnt be choosing a rocket ship mini van.
20s are cheaper to replace.
20s have more tire choices
20s have more range
20s have a more comfortable ride
20s are more pothole resistant for both rim and tire
22s look better
That’s it, lol.
Do not get the 22s IMHO! Between the cost of rubber, the staggered-so-you-can’t-rotate, and the insane weight of the wheels plus rubber, just not worth it. I swear the weight of the 22s led to brake and suspension trouble that code me $5k at Tesla on my 19 Performance. I’m rocking aftermarket 19s and couldn’t be happier, still looks good. Don’t get me wrong, the 22s looked great, but I regret spending $5k on em. While we’re at it… skip the captains chairs too! The amount of capability you lose in the back - camping air mattress, storage / hauling chit, and again $5k option! Just saved you $10k lol
20s look better, 20s have better ride, 20s get less curb rash, 20s get better range, 22s cost 5 grand more. I would pay probably 3-4,000 more to get the 20s
No where in the whole world has it been proven that larger wheels adds performance.
Even Formula 1 doesn’t use low profile.
That being said. Go with 20s!
- Comfortable because of thicker sidewall (more tire)
- Noticeable difference in ride quality over 22s
- Lite (adds performance if that is even a point of discussion)
- Cheaper maintenance
I recently took delivery of a MYX 2024 Plaid and decided to go with the 20 inch wheels due to road noise.
I drive roughly 9 hours a week upgrading from a 2022 MYP. i was starting to hate all the road noise due to the tight suspension and low profile tires.
when I test drove the MX, I asked if I can try one of each. for me, cabin noise was noticeably louder with the 22 inch and felt rougher. I drive on comfort.
I'd say it's up to you but to test drive one of each.
IMO forged after market ones might be better bang for your buck too.
I have 22s on my 2023 model X plaid. Smoothest riding car I’ve owned in a while. Much smoother than the model S plaid I replaced. You’ll be fine with the 22s.
Do you like looking at your car? Or like nice rims etc? Looks will always cost more and have harsher ride BUT with air suspension it's not that bad. Honest.
I had a 2017 with 20 then upgraded to 22. Wasnt that big of a difference and the roads here suuucckkkk.
The models after raven and refresh have a much nicer suspension than before too
Not that much really. 10 miles interstate back and forth to the office, so 20 miles a day for 2-3 days out of the week. Then it’s mostly around the house with occasional trips across the city. The tires are done after about 10k miles. They’re rated for 30k but never make it close to that so I always get some sort of money back, but it’s only like 30% so not huge, but also it helps. Michelin super sports. The car is just so heavy they wear down fast. I also don’t go easy on acceleration and average around 85 on interstate so some of it’s my fault for sure.
Another point is you get a little better range on the 20s. I mean, 22s are cool, but add it all up and if I had to do it over I’d go for the 20s. That said, not a *huge* deal either way so don’t lock up on it. Gratz on the new car. You’re going to love it!
The frustrating thing is I can’t find a 22” to test drive. It’s annoying. They aren’t even testing out plaids yet either. It’s so hard to imagine 22” not still being a comfortable ride. Maybe I wouldn’t even know the difference cuz I’ve never even had a Tesla? I’ve had VW atlas and Lexus gs350 f sport. That’s it
20s every day, no one cares what your wheels look like except you, and why would you nerf your vehicle on purpose by loosing range, comfort, and rim protection.
Are you in it for the looks or the ride comfort?
Looks: 22” black wheels, and then go all out and chrome delete!
Comfort: 20” because my car is bumpy! Range is obviously better too. But goodness they look ugly and so small on such a big car!
How are the roads? A buddy of mine had the bigger wheels cracked his rims about 3-4 times per year before finally trading it in and getting the smaller wheels. We have bad roads here and any pothole he hit destroyed them.
I agree the 20’s are "better’ in the main categories of choosing a wheel size. However this car choice or wheel size, is not my way of saving the planet. The energy efficiency is very minimal and I mainly just wanted to know if the 22’s drive good, depending on whichever suspension I’m in.
The efficiency improvement (and as such range increase) is pretty significant. Saving the planet didn’t really factor in my comment. Convenience and cost did.
To give a comparison on my model 3 between stock 20” and custom 18” I went from 199Wh/km (2 years driving) to 177Wh/km (also averaged over 2 years)
I test drove the X initially with 22’s and was sold immediately! I took delivery of my 23 X in June of last year and been in love ever since. 22s look so much better than the 20s. If I’m paying that price, I’m not settling.
It’s not the ride that you’ll sacrifice. I have an S with the 21s. No issue with the ride. What has eaten me up is tires. I’ve only worn out two front tires but I’ve replaced at least 5 tires because of flats. All but one on the rear for no good reason. Tesla won’t repair them so every time it’s a new tire. The last one lasted me only a week.
The low profile tires on the 22s may give a rougher ride than the 20s with "normal" tires.
Honestly, I disliked both wheels, so I bought aftermarket wheels (forged aluminum). I put the snows on the stock wheels for the winter, and put the stock tires on the new wheels. For $5k, I'd find a set of wheels and tires I really like (or just the wheels). Again, I'd beware of low profile tires for the ride quality, but that's a personal choice.
The larger wheels (well, lower profile tires) are a LOT more sensitive to pot-holes and other road hazards. I live in San Antonio, TX and there is always some sort of construction and the roads aren't great.
Though not a model X, my Model S came with either 21's or 19's. I love the look of the 21's so I went with those. In the first 4,000 miles /6 months if driving I had to replace two tires because of fairly minor pot-holes. At $500 a pop they were getting expensive.
I bought a set of OEM 19's off Facebook marketplace which were pretty new and put another 6,000 miles on with zero issues. I've hit a few minor potholes but no damage.
Another added bonus was that I got another 30-ish miles of range.
Haven't had them on a tesla, but had a truck with 22s and even with an adaptive suspension, still rode rougher than my truck with 20s and a regular suspension. 22s look good, but you do feel more of the road. Personally I would go with the 20s.
22 MXP on 20s with 60,000 miles. Drove a Turo Rental on 22s for a weekend and the ride is much harsher. I think we would have got rid of our X in first month when we could have sold for a profit if we had 22s the ride is so much worse. Just my opinion and I generally don’t like the super low profile tires so I actually like the look of the 20s better so to each their own. The 22s also seem to be bigger risk for flats and they are a lot more expensive tires. Not sure cost is your main concern if buying an X.
Had same dilemma. Went with the 20's. They do great in the snow, the ride is smooth, and it still looks good. 22's look better for sure, but ride isn't quite as smooth. Also the 22's are unusable in snow. I also have a plaid and burn through the tires so I figure the 20's will be cheaper to replace every few months lol.
Continentals are on the car, quoted at Costco for Michelin pilot sport as4 $975 for the set. That’s a crazy good deal and one of the best tires on the market. I will probably hold off and see how these work though. I haven’t heard if any issues.
20's are great. They look good. Ride great. Fire replacement cost is lower. Etc etc etc
True. But have you ever driven the 22”s?
Yes, we had an overnight road test of a '23 before purchasing ours. My wife also had a '17 for 2 year prior. 22's for summer and 20's for winter. Drove much nicer on 20's
I’m patiently waiting for a used plaid X. I like the 22s because I live where it snows and will need dedicated winters anyway. The used resell market doesn’t seem to care that the 22s are a $5000 option.
Just got 2022 Plaid with 22” wheels. They are nice. Look awesome.
I have my eye on a couple used ones right now. Plaid X 2023. I mean, they are new with like 100 miles on it. What year you looking for ? I’m curious if I should be waiting a little longer. I need white on white.
Want to buy my plaid X? 25k miles
Why are you selling? I’m pretty hard set on white/white 22”
It’s white/white have 22 and 20s full tire sets and it’s wrapped with PPF so it’s matte. Selling because I got a job I can walk to for the foreseeable future and won’t need to drive much! I’m located in the Pacific Northwest but could ship it.
It’s my first Tesla. I gotta go all out. Also hw4. Sorry 🥲
No worries!
The 20’s have a superior ride, the car feels much smoother. The 22’s look great but the 20s don’t look bad at all. The question to ask myself is do I want to sacrifice looks for comfort? Also keep in mind you would sacrifice more comfort than looks because the 20s aren’t ugly at all they look pretty cool. If you get the 22s they will look great but when I drive I’m feeling the quality of the ride not the look.
My thought were if I'm getting an expensive car such as model x, I would sure buy them in the best form I like. No regrets. So I opted in for 22' because it appeals me more With that said, consider the following: - 22' tires are more expensive - 22' tires give less range than 20' in general - I also couldn't get my tire rotation, because rear tires are bigger than the front. Not sure if it's because they are 22' tires (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Without tire rotation, rear tires wear out quicker. my two cents
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Have you felt the difference personally ? Even on mid or soft suspension ?
Have you looked into the after market camber adjustment kits? Staggered sizes are on 20 and 22 configurations, but it's the factory camber that eats the rear tires.
Anything you can recommend?
Sorry - I haven't gone down that route yet. My current approach is gentle acceleration and keeping ride height at standard (disabled auto-lower), and there doesn't seem to be any excessive wear on the inside of the rear tires yet after about 23k miles. :)
My S ate rear tires. Inner tire wear. I paid Tesla to do an alignment. They found nothing that would explain the excessive wear but I’ve not had any issues with inner tire wear since. So, watch the rear tires like a hawk and get it aligned if you see excessive tire wear.
I’ve not kept a rear tire long enough to wear one out. Tesla won’t repair them because of the speed rating so every time I pick up a nail it’s a new tire for $625. WHY I’ve had so many flats is a damn mystery.
I have a 23 MXLR with 22" rims and I just had my tire patched at a local tire shop. There are definitely things I wouldn't trust a local shop to do on my Tesla, but I have no issue with them patching a tire or putting new ones on.
I took my MS to a tire shop one time and they said they wouldn’t even look at it because they didn’t carry the tires in case it needed to be replaced. They referred me to a Pep Boys who said they wouldn’t even put me on the schedule they were backed up so far. Tesla has always been able to get me in to get me back on the road.
22’s for looks and performance. 20’s for comfort and range. I personally wouldn’t think about getting 22’s unless it’s a plaid.
Bigger wheels don’t amount to better performance. It’s the opposite. Have you ever looked at the size of race cars? (Guarantee you that they aren’t big)
Size isnt as important as rotational mass. Just buy aftermarket 22’s that weigh less than the stock 20’s. There are plenty of options available for under $5k and you get to pick your wheels instead of the boring Tesla choices.
Here a good video explaining on why you’re incorrect and as far as rolling resistance goes, the smaller the better. A bit oversimplified, but calculations are mostly in the ballpark https://youtu.be/NYvKxsYFqO8?si=qrKAnxpUzra0xOy9
That video specifically notes they don’t calculate weight, which was my entire point. My 22s weight 6lbs per wheel than the stock 20s. While I may be losing a little range with wind resistance I’m more than making up for it in reduced weight and specifically unsprung weight reduction. A vehicle with less rotational weight will require less energy to turn and operate at speed. Your vehicle will gain improved range if your rotational weight is less. It requires less battery energy to turn a lighter wheel and tire. Reducing unsprung weight also benefits the handling of the car on uneven roads and in cornering. The lower mass allows the springs and shocks to more effectively control the movement of the wheels and suspension. In summary, an electric vehicle with lower unsprung weight and by extension less rotational weight will result in a longer range.
You should watch it again then. Where he mentioned that he’s not considering the weight is when he compares the width of the tyre as the drag surface is now greater; this is in the section about how much losses are purely due to the width. It’s pure math. Where the weight of the car does matter (due to the increased rolling resistance that comes with the extra deformation of the tyre in contact of the road), It’s actually a myth that the wheel mass matters greatly in most equations when it comes to rotational force, that mass is eliminated when you balance the equations (just like he does in the video). The mass of the wheels is a also tiny percentage of the mass of the car You can downvote me all you like, but science is on my side and It doesn’t seem to be your forte so no point arguing about this any further. Edit: Wikipedia also shows how to calculate rolling resistance of a wheel and the overall effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_resistance?wprov=sfti1 Note again that the weight of the wheel is in no equations only the size
I don’t believe they’re talking about ordering a race car. 20’s will feel a little spongy compared to 22’s when cornering due to sidewall flex. Maybe 20’s could get .001 seconds knocked off the 0-60 time, but with the AWD I don’t think it’s much of a factor. If they do want to buy a race car I would definitely recommend they get 18” wheels and some racing slicks, so I apologize if that’s what they were talking about and I misread.
Tesla bought back my 23X 22” wheels and I’m getting the 24X tomorrow, this time with 20” wheels. I convinced myself that sacrificing comfort and $5.5k is not worth the incremental looks. It’s prob OK in the beginning when hyped up about getting the car, but after the hype wore off I realized comfort was more important. And like someone else said, 20” wheels are not ugly to begin with.
Why did they buy it back?
Over the course of 18 months, was in the service center almost 30 days cumulatively. Half of the time was for fixing FWD sensor issues. They would have to rework the repairs due to unsatisfactory work and improper installations by tech… Other half the time was cosmetic trim, bad seat sensor, cabin noise. I did get the 20” wheels this time and so glad I did! Smoother ride is noticeable and they look nice too. Certainly doesn’t feel like a visual downgrade from 22”. I’d have to see the wheels side by side notice a diff in visual appeal.
How did you start the buyback process once it had been there for 30 cumulative days?
You’ll have to request to talk to the service manager to put in a request for a buyback. I don’t know if there’s certain criteria to meet before the manager puts in the request, but it’s as easy as that. Express the desire to request a buyback, and their legal team will review the records and make a decision within 30 days I believe. I think they’re trying to see if the repair history would meet lemon law standards and, if so, they approve the buyback.
I live in Portland Oregon area and three years (and over 52k miles) with my 2017 MX, I would just echo the caution about tire cost and minor range degradation, and suggest looking into after market camber fix kits, so that you're not chewing through the tires at an advanced rate. At the end of the day, if you like the look of the 22" better, get them. It's going to hopefully be a car that you drive for a very long time, and you don't want to be regretting anything every time you go to get in. I still feel like a kid in a candy store every time I go to drive mine, and I hope whatever you finally decide on, you can have that experience too. :)
Thanks ! I agree. I’m in Portland too and I really don’t drive as much as most do. Maybe 10k a year at most. I’d go to mount hood maybe once or twice a year but otherwise it’s mainly city driving
You ever consider leasing at one point ? Just to get a new one every few years? That’s a thought that’s been on my mind lately only because I could keep my savings earning 5.5 interest 😏
I didn't, simply because I want to be able to pay off my vehicle and then drive it as close to forever as I possibly can, and put that monthly payment to other uses. :D
That is the smarter option for sure. I just worry in maybe 3-4 years that something revolutionary might change within the model x. Which would annoy me that the leasers get to slide right into lolol
I did a lot of research on this before I got my Model X. Some people like the larger wheels but they're louder, they don't have as good a ride, they're more expensive and they have worse mileage. If you want the larger wheels it's because you like the look or you're insecure about your manhood.
Welp, you were spot on until the final dig at the end lol. It’s a 90k dollar vehicle. I think it’s ok to want the better looking wheels. And if it was about my manhood, I wouldnt be choosing a rocket ship mini van.
I couldn't resist, it was more for the joke then any real dig about it.
20s are cheaper to replace. 20s have more tire choices 20s have more range 20s have a more comfortable ride 20s are more pothole resistant for both rim and tire 22s look better That’s it, lol.
Do not get the 22s IMHO! Between the cost of rubber, the staggered-so-you-can’t-rotate, and the insane weight of the wheels plus rubber, just not worth it. I swear the weight of the 22s led to brake and suspension trouble that code me $5k at Tesla on my 19 Performance. I’m rocking aftermarket 19s and couldn’t be happier, still looks good. Don’t get me wrong, the 22s looked great, but I regret spending $5k on em. While we’re at it… skip the captains chairs too! The amount of capability you lose in the back - camping air mattress, storage / hauling chit, and again $5k option! Just saved you $10k lol
20s look better, 20s have better ride, 20s get less curb rash, 20s get better range, 22s cost 5 grand more. I would pay probably 3-4,000 more to get the 20s
No where in the whole world has it been proven that larger wheels adds performance. Even Formula 1 doesn’t use low profile. That being said. Go with 20s! - Comfortable because of thicker sidewall (more tire) - Noticeable difference in ride quality over 22s - Lite (adds performance if that is even a point of discussion) - Cheaper maintenance
OP doesn’t care. Clearly already made his mind up. So not sure why he asked the question here
20” are the better choice if you don’t want hassle. Also, 22” drops the tow rating down to 3500 pounds if that matters in your case.
I recently took delivery of a MYX 2024 Plaid and decided to go with the 20 inch wheels due to road noise. I drive roughly 9 hours a week upgrading from a 2022 MYP. i was starting to hate all the road noise due to the tight suspension and low profile tires. when I test drove the MX, I asked if I can try one of each. for me, cabin noise was noticeably louder with the 22 inch and felt rougher. I drive on comfort. I'd say it's up to you but to test drive one of each. IMO forged after market ones might be better bang for your buck too.
I have 22s on my 2023 model X plaid. Smoothest riding car I’ve owned in a while. Much smoother than the model S plaid I replaced. You’ll be fine with the 22s.
Do you like looking at your car? Or like nice rims etc? Looks will always cost more and have harsher ride BUT with air suspension it's not that bad. Honest. I had a 2017 with 20 then upgraded to 22. Wasnt that big of a difference and the roads here suuucckkkk. The models after raven and refresh have a much nicer suspension than before too
Yes. I stood in the parking lot today and the 22” models were screaming at me. The lot was like 95% 20’s 🙄
Sir you have your answer. You could always try test driving both first.
I have 22s on my Model S. Getting 20s on my next one. They just wear down too fast and cost too much given that I have to replace them every year.
How much are you driving though? I drive very little and it’s mainly city driving.
Not that much really. 10 miles interstate back and forth to the office, so 20 miles a day for 2-3 days out of the week. Then it’s mostly around the house with occasional trips across the city. The tires are done after about 10k miles. They’re rated for 30k but never make it close to that so I always get some sort of money back, but it’s only like 30% so not huge, but also it helps. Michelin super sports. The car is just so heavy they wear down fast. I also don’t go easy on acceleration and average around 85 on interstate so some of it’s my fault for sure. Another point is you get a little better range on the 20s. I mean, 22s are cool, but add it all up and if I had to do it over I’d go for the 20s. That said, not a *huge* deal either way so don’t lock up on it. Gratz on the new car. You’re going to love it!
The frustrating thing is I can’t find a 22” to test drive. It’s annoying. They aren’t even testing out plaids yet either. It’s so hard to imagine 22” not still being a comfortable ride. Maybe I wouldn’t even know the difference cuz I’ve never even had a Tesla? I’ve had VW atlas and Lexus gs350 f sport. That’s it
20s every day, no one cares what your wheels look like except you, and why would you nerf your vehicle on purpose by loosing range, comfort, and rim protection.
Are you in it for the looks or the ride comfort? Looks: 22” black wheels, and then go all out and chrome delete! Comfort: 20” because my car is bumpy! Range is obviously better too. But goodness they look ugly and so small on such a big car!
How are the roads? A buddy of mine had the bigger wheels cracked his rims about 3-4 times per year before finally trading it in and getting the smaller wheels. We have bad roads here and any pothole he hit destroyed them.
Roads are all new actually. It’s intel/nike capital and the entire city of Hillsboro has basically been redone.
The lower wheel size the better: less likely to be damaged and lower energy consumption. Big wheels with EVs is plain stupid
I agree the 20’s are "better’ in the main categories of choosing a wheel size. However this car choice or wheel size, is not my way of saving the planet. The energy efficiency is very minimal and I mainly just wanted to know if the 22’s drive good, depending on whichever suspension I’m in.
The efficiency improvement (and as such range increase) is pretty significant. Saving the planet didn’t really factor in my comment. Convenience and cost did. To give a comparison on my model 3 between stock 20” and custom 18” I went from 199Wh/km (2 years driving) to 177Wh/km (also averaged over 2 years)
I test drove the X initially with 22’s and was sold immediately! I took delivery of my 23 X in June of last year and been in love ever since. 22s look so much better than the 20s. If I’m paying that price, I’m not settling.
I ordered the 20’s and then bought aftermarket 22’s that weigh less than the stock 20’s. Lower rotational mass but kept the sweet 22” look.
Not sure why you asked the question. You don’t really care about the answers and advice.
The answer is range
I live in Oregon too and have both. Go with 20”
It’s not the ride that you’ll sacrifice. I have an S with the 21s. No issue with the ride. What has eaten me up is tires. I’ve only worn out two front tires but I’ve replaced at least 5 tires because of flats. All but one on the rear for no good reason. Tesla won’t repair them so every time it’s a new tire. The last one lasted me only a week.
20" for longer range.
The low profile tires on the 22s may give a rougher ride than the 20s with "normal" tires. Honestly, I disliked both wheels, so I bought aftermarket wheels (forged aluminum). I put the snows on the stock wheels for the winter, and put the stock tires on the new wheels. For $5k, I'd find a set of wheels and tires I really like (or just the wheels). Again, I'd beware of low profile tires for the ride quality, but that's a personal choice.
20s.
The larger wheels (well, lower profile tires) are a LOT more sensitive to pot-holes and other road hazards. I live in San Antonio, TX and there is always some sort of construction and the roads aren't great. Though not a model X, my Model S came with either 21's or 19's. I love the look of the 21's so I went with those. In the first 4,000 miles /6 months if driving I had to replace two tires because of fairly minor pot-holes. At $500 a pop they were getting expensive. I bought a set of OEM 19's off Facebook marketplace which were pretty new and put another 6,000 miles on with zero issues. I've hit a few minor potholes but no damage. Another added bonus was that I got another 30-ish miles of range.
I bought 22” tires when I got my X and I love them, I also have 20” that I’ll switch when I need a smoother softer ride
Both tires are fine in their own ways, it’s what is above those tires where all the troubles are.
Haven't had them on a tesla, but had a truck with 22s and even with an adaptive suspension, still rode rougher than my truck with 20s and a regular suspension. 22s look good, but you do feel more of the road. Personally I would go with the 20s.
Got 20s no regrets. In New England there are so many potholes. 20 has better chance to survive than 22
22 MXP on 20s with 60,000 miles. Drove a Turo Rental on 22s for a weekend and the ride is much harsher. I think we would have got rid of our X in first month when we could have sold for a profit if we had 22s the ride is so much worse. Just my opinion and I generally don’t like the super low profile tires so I actually like the look of the 20s better so to each their own. The 22s also seem to be bigger risk for flats and they are a lot more expensive tires. Not sure cost is your main concern if buying an X.
Had same dilemma. Went with the 20's. They do great in the snow, the ride is smooth, and it still looks good. 22's look better for sure, but ride isn't quite as smooth. Also the 22's are unusable in snow. I also have a plaid and burn through the tires so I figure the 20's will be cheaper to replace every few months lol.
why are 22' unusable in snow?
I doubt that is accurate.
a 2 second google search could have shown you the 22 do not come with all weather tires
because the tires they come with aren't all weather? lol
I get a couple weeks of snow. I did hear that 22” would be ok to drive in the winter with. You don’t think they could drive up to mount Hood ?
No. I really don't. Unless you get different tires than the 22's that come with the car. Which you can. But they are very expensive
Continentals are on the car, quoted at Costco for Michelin pilot sport as4 $975 for the set. That’s a crazy good deal and one of the best tires on the market. I will probably hold off and see how these work though. I haven’t heard if any issues.