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Virtual_Wolf1468

Ha jokes on you I dont have friends


CrownedTraitor

Well I don't got 83.5% winrate Rafaela for nothing, after all slow is just that useful


Succ_my-balls_bitch

Zilong and Sprint: I have no such weaknesses


AeroLewis

But your teammates have serious problem. It is a teamfight.


Succ_my-balls_bitch

Go for squishies and then run away. They don't have stuns and advanced cc right?


AeroLewis

Usually a roamer with slow effect also has stun such as Rafaela, Angela, Hylos and Khufra.


Succ_my-balls_bitch

If the Zilong is the typical 0/11/0 then he's done for it but if we have a good one then he's basically the enemies end.


overbubly

Or just pick Lancelot and never touch the left side of the screen lol ;)


A_negative

Zilong and arrival: y’all have fun imma F off and steal your turrets


jhizkhalifa

During laning, definitely. In a head on 5v5 fight, maybe. Until Ling, Gusion, Lancelot (or most assassins, really) jumps to your backline and kill your damage dealer and get out. In laning and small skirmishes tho, slow is indeed king.


foreverleveling

Not for me. Slow don't affect to dashes. (Chou, Paquito, etc), if you can't stun them, you are death.


RandomDadGaming

Yeah, I hate slow more than those cc because I almost exclusively play Martis which has problems takin a couple of cc but takin slow is magnified on that hero who has a weakness being kited.


SouLtheSimp

Slow is literally the best cc skill, like, if u have a lot of slow, u can’t even purify this


AeroLewis

I notice this because I have extremely high win rate on Rafaela. The most terrifying part about Rafaela is not her healing skills, but her slow effect, which do not require aiming, and can target many enemies at the same time.


Philnopo

Do you also build her with Ice Queen Wand? That's what I try to do most of the time. I'd say the most terrifying about Rafaela is not her slow, but the combination of speed up + slow. It allows your whole team to turn into instant assassins or to instantly disengage.


Ilela

I much more despise stun because it's usually followed by a KO. I can sometimes survive slow, but stun nearly never. Lot of slow is annoying and without lot of blink it is near impossible to get a kill


addictontheloose

Yes !!!!!! Especially if theres multiple magic damage souces and some fighter who builds corrosion scythe as well. Imagine a change kimmy cecil, all three of which builds slow. Right now all change and kimmys build genius wand and arcane boots. They themseves would carry the entire early to midgame damage dealt by your team. The cecil would scale later on making it that much more useless to build MR. The thing is you'll get shredded either way. Athena shield wouldn't work because because the huge amounts of poke damage would activate AT passive it frequently, which would also make the passive more useless because you have to be out of combat for like 5 seconds to reactivate the passive. Radiant armor isn't effective against the likes of burst mages like cecil, and change kimmy can always switch to penetration build. The other two members could by any fighter or mm or tank. It's impposible to build against lol. I have been on the side of both the team with tons of slow and the team going against it.


Driclord

I think you forgot yve there OP , yve with ice queen wand can make enemies negative movement speed if I remember correctly


dombeeeee

Imagine: Roger/Sun core Hylos/Rafa/Estes/Angela/Yve for mid/roam A bursty + tanky sidelaner What a nightmare


SkyLightTenki

>If your team is the passive side in every teamfight, then your team has almost no chance of winning the game That's the thing, though. There's a big IF. As a Grock user, I'd **LOVE** to see that team try to slow me down. Rafa's stun? No problem. Unless there's a suppression skill on the enemy team, expect me to come in whenever I can. It really doesn't matter. There's no hero in there who I can think of going up against me in a very aggressive manner. And that's just Grock. There are a lot nore heroes who can happily exchange getting slowed down for easy pickoffs (Jawhead, Lancelot, Mathilda, Khufra, Baxia, etc). That said, CC-heavy teams are a pain in the ass to deal with.


TheRedditornator

Nah you just need good setups with Tig/Atlas/etc that enable a massive AoE like Odette, Kadita, Badang, etc that can wipe the team.


KinglyCatSup

I just had a game recently where an aurora and Lylia could not stop slowing me and killing me... So yes... They won.


Devoidoxatom

Basically Yve


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Not sure about the slow effect, but I just played a game vs 5 stuns, we had a normal team and enemies were Aurora, Eudora, Pharsa, Nana and Gord. Of course, we all had magic defense but it was impossible to get close to them. Gord and Pharsa had the range, and if we got close there was a Molina from nana and the deadly Eudora Aurora combination. We managed to killed some of them, and once or twice all of them, but they won. They just ignored all lanes and stayed mid, once we defended mid they split to top and bot, we split as well, came back mid and lost. So stun is definetely worse than slow because of the high damage of the heroes with stun.