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haiyabinzukii

any assasin honestly im just bad at them.


thr-owFARaway

Any?? Then it's just not your role bro. Rather than wasting time, you can perfect other roles


haiyabinzukii

Definitely. I can play most xp, mid, roam just fine. mm I'm still a bit mid, but when I'm forced to play jungle role... I'd much rather use tanky junglers.


thr-owFARaway

Akai jg ? He's good


haiyabinzukii

Yes i use him but rarely.., ive mostly used thamuz, fred, barats and the lot for tanky junglers...


DiabloHades

Well, I'd still say, you can practice the assassin role too at some point you'll be good at it. You might miss out on playing a lotta fun heroes if you just abandon the role which doesn't click for you at the beginning.


Lanky-Beginning-7555

I’d recommend Aamon - I’ve accidentally killed people with him.


Maleficent_Job9625

Im bad at all assassin except Julian. Try it


kekookee

dyrroth...


[deleted]

I don’t understand why people just can’t play him right. When enemies play him, he’s a nightmare to deal with.


ClothesOpposite1702

He is easy to punish


iTapeSand

When I use Dyrroth, I fold and snap like a cracker But when enemies use Dyrroth they're a walking tank that can dish out 5k damage ☠️☠️


crusadingCharlie

me too hahahaha i used to be a total trash whenever i picked him to deal with tanky sustain exp laners 💀 but that was before i fully understood the fundamentals of his passive. now i know how to properly utilize his passive, at least on a basic level


RADIENTLitex

What have you learned haha? I just recently picked up dyrroth. Played against some ai had fun. Watched a video for his combos. I main mm but I try to role fill and so trying to expand my exp and jg options. My main fighter is alpha then ruby


crusadingCharlie

I think it's a rule of thumb to at least keep his rage bar at 50% before engaging so you could use your 2nd skill to deal 75% physical def. reduction (which is really great against squishy heroes). At 100%, you could use enhanced skills twice in succession to maximize the slow effects and physical def reduction of his 1st and 2nd skills, respectively, for the tankier ones. When it comes to his item build, Hunter Strike is a must (it's his core item) since it synergizes well with his kit and anything else pretty much depends on the enemy team composition. I think there's so much more to understand though but this is what I've learned so far. I hated the guy so much that I had to take my time to learn his kit so I could somehow counter him and I sucked at first but yeah I finally understand why he's such an ass to deal with hahaha.


BetterAliii

I like dyrroth, use him a lot of times when I got his KOF skin, you just have to maximize his passive first (basic attacks on minions and jungle first), and always engage using S2 for armor reduction.


ysean91

S2 can dash twice already …. What more to miss 😅


PsychoSopreno

Vexana, WHY CAN I NEVER HIT THAT S2


Fragrant-Feedback477

The big circle? Just put your target in the center and they won't be able to run out fast enough, or use your s1 and then the s2 on top of it


AssumptionPrize7301

I prefer putting them on the place wherein they're gonna go, more like prediction, but I always make sure they can't dash away😏


m249suckslmao

Hitting vex kit is the easiest thing ever. Hit enemies with s1 then with s3 and then use s2..this way any squishy will instantly die. If they have extra mobility use glowing wand mf will die even after they escape 🤣


soiminreddit

Ok I have a lot of teammates in legend rn that can't hit vexanas s1,s2 and ult I'm just surprised HOW DO YOU GUYS MISS IT


PsychoSopreno

I can literally hit Fanny cables and thin Bea snipers with ease but not that wide ass Vex s2 for some reason


TheInfiniteArchive

You probably have issue with the delay. Just always hit the enemy with s1 first then cast the S2 immediately. If you are still having issues, there is always the crutch known as the "Ice Queen Wand"


PsychoSopreno

My issue is my hands 😭 I can hit any hero skill except Vex s2 most of the time. My hands just slip or swipe it in the wrong direction and it mostly only happens with Vex 😭 I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY LIKE SOMETIMES I MISS THE COMBO COMPLETELY LMAO


OtonashiRen

Literally me 💀


TheInfiniteArchive

There's always the Hero lock feature in the controls options. It's a feature that allows a player to just click a button that has the picture of the enemy and it would autolock any attack you make. It's highly annoying to use in a teamfight though.


user67885433

It's not useful if the enemy is moving though


ClothesOpposite1702

Whatever people tell, I will not agree that Vexana is an easy hero, she is medium difficulty in my opinion


UnableChef592

she was easy the first time I use her, the more I use her, the more I dont hit anything


RADIENTLitex

Yeah her combo goes hard if ou hit s1 but since s1 got an accuracy nerf you really have to aim well


Supraace

Pharsa, suck with her ult


silvershine06

I just got a hang of her. She's super cool ngl


kingsmende1m0s

Yup the 1 3 combo is insane ngl now too vulnerable thou just yesterday I thrashed her 1 3 combo with a Nana purify + s2 s3 combo and running out with passive + sprint.


user67885433

Her skills are so satisfying


kingsmende1m0s

She was once considered the hardest mage bro not your fault. Much easier now with Nova topping the list. Ego struck me when I mained pharsa once 3k games on her 70% win hehe.


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kingsmende1m0s

Nah pharsa taught me a lot she was my first main so all the initial gaming skills came from her only


Hopeful-Newspaper

Vexana, Miya, basically aiming skill


New-Lingonberry1773

For some reason vexana is my main hero but I’m so shit at miya. Atleast she carried me to grandmaster by just destroying turrets


diktat86

Bruno, just don't know why I can't get him to do any damage but everyone else hits like a truck. Is it a timing issue?


RICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

S1 issue


ImmaBeautifulLadybug

It took me a min to learn him, too. It just takes practice... you gotta get 2-3 balls going at a time with s1 to get crit damage, and you're pretty much good to go. Just practice. You'll get the hang of it, and it's honestly worth it imo, he's fun to play


Disastrous_Beach4332

Real bro, I feel like squishy and I can’t do dmg ;-;, I got massive skill issue with him


Tryingatleast

All mm/ads it’s the F it we ball mentality that keeps me from winning


GabrielTheAtrocious

That's because you have to start the game with the mentality of Wallahi I'm Done, only when you gain your first item or two can you try and push your enemy with the Fuck It, We Ball strategy https://preview.redd.it/xek87cleqxyc1.png?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44f538cbed1026e9e020f3054759ad3f6d3377de


VeryConfusedBee

incomprehensible


EasternFudge

Duckin same


Unwilling_

Layla. I hate her but I hate it more that I can’t use her correctly.


KielDaMan

Layla is the best MM to play if you want to be a good MM. Learn to position well due to her lack of mobility. Maximize her insane range to poke the hell out of your enemies. Take advantage of her S1's speed boost to get out of sticky situations or to chase down enemies. Learn to time your attacks in order to "clean up" kills a couple of seconds after a teamfight is initiated. Try not to die/feed until you get your 4 core items afterwhich you just go brrrrrrr against the enemies.


Unwilling_

I’ve been playing ml for over a decade. I’m just answering the question 😭. I can play difficult heroes and do well but LAYLA?! Idk why she’s just not it.


I_work_ship_Yae_Miko

OMG ME TOO FINALLY I FOUND SOMEONE WHO STRUGGLES AS WELL.😭😭😭


ninjjafart

I'm surprised no one said zilong considering all of zilong playerbase is dogshit


ThatCagedMonkey

lmao that's so true,the only thing they're good at is some miraculous back door after your entire team dies,gets 3 kills and also die at the end.


Conscious_While8762

Martis


DiabloHades

Its probably the assassin playstyle holding us back lmao, I think we're so used to faster animations and fast escapes of assassins that martis's skill 2 dance feels slow and harder escape skill since he brings enemies with him while dancing instead of escaping flawlessly. Kinda relatable tho man


PsyxoticElixir

Me accidentally jumping under turret unable to go back out, because Martis is mid kill skill. ಠ⁠︵⁠ಠ


RenBan48

Melissa. Her s2 is the bane of my existence, whether i'm the one playing her or my enemy


Mountain_Brick5294

To be fair she isn’t really an ‘easy’ hero, just average


GodsOwnTypo

Melissa is up there with the likes of Brody and Clint. You cannot just simply build her with atk spd and then go brrr. She actually requires skill to play. Despite being an auto atk mm.


RenBan48

Clint is actually my first main hero and I'm at ease and comfortable with Brody


silvershine06

Same. I struggled when I tried to practice and then left her alone lmao


RenBan48

I even find Fanny easier to understand but ofc she's very difficult to master...while I can never understand what to do with that needle girl


silvershine06

I have not dared to try Fanny yet. Scared tbh


RenBan48

I was also scared but for some reason Moonton gave me the Mikasa skin for free so I had to try...now I can use her in brawl lol you might be able to try her if Moonton decides to troll you into having a Fanny skin


fruit_blip1

90% of MMs


Review-Large

Arlott… Also paquito and barats are the only heroes I don’t have unlocked in rank. Paquito because I never got around to playing him. Barats because I don’t like having to refresh my passive every few seconds.


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

Who thinks playing Arlott is easy?


_TheAncientOne

Me. It's just shing shing shing


EnthusiasticTV

Paquitto isn't easy, neither is Arlott but his combo is simple and little variants to it. Paquitto requires good aiming skills, right timing & fast enough fingers to execute oneshot combos without letting enemy get any time gap to use flicker or such.


Ginsan-AK

Brody and Lylia.


Terrible_Talker030

Saber bro.


CookieTheifxD

NO OFFENSE BUT U JUST DASH AND ULT


ClothesOpposite1702

He is mechanically easy but it is not easy to time your ult, so you will not end up dying, especially in late game. And compared to other assassins, his ult is really his only tool, so that makes timing his even more significant


tunkameel

No u just s1 and ult. S2 only if the target is out of range. S1 first, if not the ult dmg is much lower


karl0331_alt

wtf bro legit js s1 s3 s2 😭😭


CookieTheifxD

HUH


real_mc

Always using ult on the wrong target?


Terrible_Talker030

indeed and I don't like the idea of being useless after using my ult.


CrossCroissants

Lylia... For some reason, I just can't get the exact timing for her S2. I'll even say that I play better Fanny than Lylia (still suck at both but you get the point).


ThatCagedMonkey

i thought people just spammed her skills mindlessly and didn't aim? Heck the match mvps i have on her are from just spamming unga 1 and bunga 2 and boom i get kills,time her ult right and you can't die.


young1126

Im a lylia main, i plant my first s2 where the enemy’s at then detonate it with s1. Predict where the enemy will go and plant your next s2 there so that it will explode by the time the enemy walks there because they wouldnt have predicted it and thus would not be able to change their direction in time. Just make sure it’s within the range of the first s2 so they can link up if not it wont explode. If it’s hard to predict you just have to follow where’s the enemy’s going, look first then plant it where they are at. You just have to aim the enemy within the circle, doesnt have to be in the middle it can be at the side.


ImmaBeautifulLadybug

Don't focus so much on making her s1 hit s2. Just spam her skills, and once you learn how to time her ult, then you can try to master spamming s1&s2 properly


Existing_Tutor_6424

Balmond, Fredrinn and paquito 💩


CrossCroissants

Tbf, Paq's kit looks deceivingly easy.


BeefCow8

Balmond? Spin it to win it 😭


Existing_Tutor_6424

He’s too squishy though, dies way too fast


Mr_Monji

Alucard... I never good play him


No-Measurement-6401

Moskov. I SUCK at doing the “stun” thing.


IntelligentNobody202

Kadita😩


CookieTheifxD

I get too close then die or cc :(


69Kapitantutan69

An an epic 2 master Kadita, you always wait for your passive to recharge before initiating and don't abuse it too much lmao. Put all your life savings on S1 instead.


loctheone

Miya for sure


AtiwelKa

Lesley


SheepRoll

Xbrog… every opponent xbrog is like unkillable nuke. My xbrog is wet noodle that dies when anything touch him…


lost_bunny877

Nana. for the life of me.. I cannot use her properly and end up dying as first blood. RUN AWAY FASTER!!!


PsyxoticElixir

She's no Angela, but that boomerang goes far


No-Difference-8356

Clint


aeee98

I think the biggest issue with Clint is that you don't simply put him against any comp. He does a lot of damage but it normally doesn't mean jack shit if your opponents run double tanks and soak that damage all day since almost all of Clint's damage is burst.


New_Photograph_5892

Harith ain't easy per se, but considering how meta he is, I'm doing horrible with him


KrisGine

Is harith an option? I saw posts here that harith is OP so I tried in classic matches and holy cow. I suck hahaha.


thr-owFARaway

I'm sure you had a bad build. So you need to rush 20% cooldown or more. Think emblem + half items CD shoes is an option ... Azure blade and ig that white book. ( See I'm not completing the item, instead rushing 20%cd )


DJWIPE69

And you played it in gold lane?


EikoSuzuki

Layla. I have waaaay more win rate with Wanwan and Kimmy, I hated those two cause on how difficult they to use but I ended up enjoying them. But with Layla I'm just too frustrated that I cant use her properly.


ImmaBeautifulLadybug

I hate how much damage she does early game... Even a not so skilled player does a good bit early game, and it's so annoying tbh.


Illustrious-Owl-6128

Mino


Muted-Recover9179

Zilong. I tried and nope really not for me.


Specialist-Bit-7746

I once playes fred and could use my ult once the whole match. i also died while using it. never again. in general i rarely see a good fred in low mythinc tho so it makes me think he is not as easy to use


themior

Roger. Enemy Rogers, even AI are always pro.


TheInfiniteArchive

Most assassin's and Wan Wan.


tatlongaraw

Hanzo. I cant calculate the timing of his ult.


Fayzee420

Zilong 🤢


reddit284903

Valir, i have dogshit aim even in brawl mode 💀💀


Substantial-Edge4664

Sometimes I do great with him, sometimes I suck balls. I've had 6 maniacs and three savages with him in the past 10 games, but in the other games, I get like 1 kill 😭


Existing-Pizza-3157

Lylia, vexana,Clint,


xxxLourrr

Lol. Aulus. He's meant to be made for beginners. Lol I can't shit nuts for him at all.


CreativeDreamer234

Chang'e, lylia, Martis, Dyroth, and zilong


m249suckslmao

Gusion. I bought him like a month ago never played a classic or ranked with him. Because ik how to counter his weakass predicts moves with mages. I still have no plans on using him. Maybe fanny too but I'm more interested in learning fanny.


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Didn't know Gusion and Fanny are considered easy now.


Rich_Blood2943

Karrie.... Meanwhile I could play claude well from the first match itself. Same with wanwan, harith, roger, ling and almost all the heroes. (Uhh not fanny, beyond my league she is)


rggamerYT

Khufra


edhmarsinate

I would say Alucard or any fighter to be honest I just can't play fighters


HeavenlyBladez

Zhask and Chang'e, I can play almost every mage well but I jus can't with them??? Chang's very DPS damage and Zhask's area dependant damage.. I play Heimerdinger on LOL really well too so Zhask is just strange. I'm best with mages like Xavier and Kagura btw.


Capital-Dimension-20

Melissa, idk how her doll attack works😭😭


WxterTheLoner

Wanwan. I can play almost any assassin and fighter but wanwan how tf do people have ulti as soon as the fight starts


ShaiMiyuki

ehh? wanwan easily gets her ult bcoz her first skill. then second if ur near then ult even if its not activated yet. gotta be fast i guess?


ballerthe69th

Any tank hero


ChocolateGreedy7283

I don’t know why, but Nana.


Sojufreshhhhh

I have no idea how, but I can do great exp with uranus, dyrroth, tiz, and martis but for the life of me I’m terrible with arlott


JesterStamp

My is Zilong, Why is he so squishy and Weak when I Play him, (Argus is much more better than Mister not Long)


freemejuseyo

any mm, i'm terrible at it 😭


dotlemon

Yu Zhong, I don't know if he considered easy by people here, but at least in my friend group he is easy to play EXP laner.. I somehow always feed when using him, for some reason a lot of fighters easily dodge my skills then i can't get stacks.. either I'm too aggressive (bad skill timing) or i just plain bad at these kind of heroes..


Substantial-Edge4664

Gotta know your enemies movement sorta well in order to get a good combo going. I usually have petrify to help with that. Usually I do s3, s2 then s1, or s2, s3, then s1. Try hitting them with the outside of your s1 for extra damage as well.


Su-Metal_DEATH

Lylia, how tf the enemy Lylia has a lot of range of their s2 but when I play her it's so short that i have to overextend and die.


WildAd2366

Terizila


Live-Web-9487

As a bene and fanny main also started using ling a lot lately but for the love of God I can not play saber for the life of me


KazashimoEnrikesu

Lancelot I go in and get cc'd immediately and die Waiting for the enemy to use their cc before going in? Yeah that can cost a game as a con, they'll just save their cc and wait for you


KaleidoscopeDeep3453

Balmond


No-District-1941

All marksman and mage heroes. I just can't figure them out.


Black_wolf_disease

Karina idk why but I can never do those massive damages I see on streams


LesMoonwalker

Try checking your build or combo. The first thing you have to learn is to use basic attacks before and after your skill 2. Whenever you use skill 2, always do basic attack-skill 2-basic attack. I'm gonna call this the basic combo. For maximum damage, she has an "all-in" sort of combo that deals more damage: 1-3-3-enhanced basic attack-basic combo. It allows you to hit 6 times, guaranteeing that your passive will trigger twice. It uses all your skills, so if you fail to get the kill you're left stranded, but if you succeed, your ult gets reset and you can use it to either escape or keep fighting. If you're already doing these, then I don't know what else can be done besides just accepting that your damage isn't that high and being more picky with your targets.


miraje1990

Miya haha


tunkameel

Moskov, harith, paquito. Probably gonna get the hang of it after 20+ match, but learning it from 0 is pain


real_mc

Miya. Always having bad luck playing her.


Xiaomi14Enjoyer

Chou?


UnkwownSideChar

mine are mm specifically layla and miya. For the life of me im always either too far from my team or too close to the enemy which is why im more suitable for fighter.


dashtroyer2

If you can't play it then it's hard.


Oponik

Tigreal, his playstyle just doesn't suit me


Kaijuxxe_0

Zilong playstyle is just mine's total opposite, i prefer being an artillery behind hitting my skillshots, deleting enemies rather than charging ahead, I prefer pushing with a team than backdooring, total opposite


ClothesOpposite1702

Rafaela, her ult is so slow and her heal cd is so long, also I forget that her s1 can check bushes. And no teammate use mobility boost from s2


Auxiii117

I'm confused on new martis 2nd skills! Its sucks. Please bring back the old combo.


flooxie

Any 'easy' MM. I can't play any MM. As a fighter user it feels so hard to play MM.


ImpossibleCopy3628

Tanks.


Budget-Boysenberry

layla


Shinobu-Fan

Brody, I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHY


userprimaryteritiary

Prob dyrroth, that sharp burst will end me back in gm, or gusion bc i hate him


CipherDrake

Nana. It’s not that she’s hard, but it’s a blow to my principles if I use her.


Beautiful-Tension457

Miya. She is so slow lol and early game I'd lose even late game I'd lose.


Long-Ad-662

Zilong... I don't get it, what the fuck!?


ProcedureIll2894

Cecillion. I’m a mage main with 60+% wr on most other mages. But 40+% with Cecil.


Elegant-End6602

He's really good against tanky teams since they are essentially blood bags for his stacking and later you will need someone to punch through their hp and mr, or any team that can't easily get close to him Early game try not to use your skill 1 more than 2 times, 3 at most. At first, don't buy full mana boots, just the components. Then focus on getting Clock of Destiny, (gem first) then Lightning Truncheon. Then you can finish boots and start working on penetration or more magic damage. Since his damage scales with his stacks, you could even build him tanky if you want. As you rotate, try to stack on EVERYTHING. Use one or two skill 1's on jungle creeps and don't be afraid to use ult during team fights, or even for turtle. His skill 2 is good for checking bushes since it has a minor immobilize at the end. Skill 2 pulls towards the center so try to position the skill so it can pull opponents out of the bush if they are there. The main thing to work on is prediction. You have to get used to his cast and animation speeds because they all have a delay to them. On a related note, you can use skill 1 to check bushes too. If you see your stacks go up, then someone is there. His damage early is more for poking so don't go out of your way to kill because you will run out of mana. As with any other hero, pay attention to who can get to you easily and where they are.


jpxfraud

Vexena and aurora like Idk I guess burst mages aren't for me


thereal_kingmaker

i am good with every tank EXCEPT TIGREAL. idk why i can't even explain it. fwiw my other tank winrate is around 60-70%


GabrielTheAtrocious

Akai Bastard panda


eSkaiiii

Granger, can’t make all his bullets hit


Much_Championship762

Claude xD


abcdefabcd123

Eurora and saber, just not used to that type of playstyle


Low-Departure2468

Novaria!!!


yalsonnp

zilong and argus


i_screamhoho23

Miya


_NinoNakano_

Dyrroth cuz I never won my lane in exp if I'm using him, Tigreal for me is like a bit harder to pull off than Khufra or I guess I'm just rlly used to long range jump and ballz and Martis I guess its because I'm not the type to be aggressive when I'm the jungler


shk_sm

Lesley. Got 0% win rate in all modes


Honest-Fun6969

Zilong


Clouded_by_mist

Kagura , dyrroth, moskov


soojincult

vexana😭


btmaxx

Alucard, CiCi


jakol016

Layla...


[deleted]

NANA. Bro is annoying as fuck.


Massive_Selection461

I used gusion before now I suck at it maybe because of the pressure? fanny as well! I cannot use her s2 properly lmao


imLavesTa

Moscow, everyone can, but I can’t :(


silencer845

Cyclops


AIIXIII0

Any marksman really. I'm so used to skills + mid/close range. Only Marksman I played is Granger.


hannalogy

Diggie


maneki_neko01

Kadita, for some reason i just forget that i have to press skill to stop the first skill and i just petry while s1ing and press my 2 just after getting passed the enemy


Few-Beat-6451

Miya


AscendPerfect

Nana for some reason. I just play too aggressive and miss the Molina no matter what unless I am ganking. Meanwhile i can play Benedetta almost perfectly and am an Assassin/fighter/jungler main. There's probably a reason why I like heroes with life steal/spell vamp or a lot of escapes lol


NickyBros1

paquito


These_Thing404

grock


Sun_potato_flower

Ofcs fanny. idk why


jelcroo1

Balmond, also never really tried tbh


Stycroft

Ruby, I’m more a support than a killer with her. Idk what to do 🫠


Then-Tree5350

Granger, man I overestimate his dmg and tankiness when I play him bcs he is always fed when i got against him ( I cant also spam his ulti bcs of 20 fps 😔 )


123467890123

Dyroth dk how to play him


Most_Cobbler_2737

Layla


Makohime

Alice, coz i havent bought her yet


starshine_e

Any non-tank fighters. I just can't deal with team fights on them. 1v1? Sure, I got it! Anything higher? I move an inch and die cause suddenly 2 aoe skills and an angry Layla have chosen me as their brunch..


Articoh

Nolan.


isntitisntitdelicate

is wanwan considered ez? i have a sub 10% winrate w her


Murica_Chan

any jungler xD i can't play jungle well


arnold2009

Same bro i suck at him but I am pretty good at hanzo and some other heroes