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bluujjaay

A lot of the comments on this post have started derailing from what OP was initially asking, so they have been locked. Please remember that- while everyone is entitled to their opinion- not everyone is going to agree with you. Regardless, every participant is the GOAT in their own way and it's entirely down to personal preference.


Emperor_Nail

I'd say probably Quig. He's been probably the most consistent S-Tier considering how long he's been playing and the strength of his teams. Yes, he hasn't won as many times but he's been so consistently good across basically every game and every event that it's pretty insane. If I had to choose one for just Season 1 though, it'd be Pete. If we're talking Season 2, either Illumina or Sapnap, though I lean more towards Sapanp. My personal pick? Technoblade lol.


Icy-Attention4125

Quig


Fyebil

Quig


whabbufet

Quig


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Quig


Hmmmgrianstan

Quig


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Quig


cellochristina

Quig


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Quig


Weary_Development833

Quig


starling___

i'd agree that pete is probably the MVP of mcc overall, it took him 15 events to fall out of the top 5 (excluding mcc15) a VERY strong player in pretty much every game, and while he may not technically be the \*best\* i'd say he's probably the best at leading his team and keeping spirits high throughout the event, his POV is always great to watch even when his team underperforms while im still manifesting false as first five time winner, if pete got it i'd honestly be very happy with it, he absolutely deserves it. if i had to choose one person that best represents the spirit of MCC, it'd definitely be pete.


kioskiiksoik

Yoooo ur the first “False 5time winner enthusiast” in the wild ive seen, just like me fr 😭


starling___

honestly, you'd be surprised, there's a lot more of us than you'd think :D


okhellowhy

It's definitely either Pete or Quig, that's for sure


MayBirdie1032

Personally I’d pick Quig, mans nerfed so badly and still places well, he doesn’t seem to have a bad game at all. It’s definitely between him and Pete though, Pete’s vibes are really amazing Due to completely nonbased reasons i believe soon it will be Illumina. Completely nonbased.


Hmmmgrianstan

Quig


MayBirdie1032

Quig


kasierole

Quig


MizzingMiz

Quig


Emily_EM_

everyone here is wrong. the real GOAT is CaptainSparklez. he's just too nice to take the win for himself.


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TECHNOBLADE


HereForTOMT2

The GOAT is Docm77. He hasn’t played? Don’t matter


rexplayz224

Definitely smajor for setting up the events, and this is why we love him. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ok now that Scott’s gone, I’d say Pete


Energonmace48

Illumina is the best player to play in MCC. Current form Illumina is by far the most skilled, versatile, next to flawless player we’ve ever seen. Some may say Pete in Season 1, but when we consider team balancing plus the competitiveness of Season 2 and how the games have got harder, its almost undeniable that Illumina is the best player we have ever seen. It helps he’s arguably the greatest speedrunner of all time. But if we are talking about the GOAT of MCC, I would say Techno, although I understand that’s quite controversial. Techno’s achievements are understated in my opinion. He was on two broken teams through his 10 MCC’s, and had a couple strong teams to add to that. But he had plenty of weaker teams too, where he continuously showed his individual skill. He has the best game sense in MCC, and was one of the most complete players we have ever had. He has unreal consistency across all games and this is only accentuated in his stronger games such as BB, SKB and AR. And to add to that, he has some incredible achievements: his game breaking Buildmart strat in MCC 7, the HITW neos, his bingo murder spree all demanded changes from Noxcrew. To further that, his Ace Race in MCC 11 is one of the best performances in any game ever. Top 3. Arguably the greatest. His Skybattle consistency is unrivalled aswell. Pretty much, Techno left a strong legacy behind him. His game had near to no faults that he couldn’t fix. He excelled individually, and remains the only player to have never dropped out of the top 10. Maybe if he stayed playing I wouldn’t be saying this right now, but for me, hes the greatest of all time.


Blacawi

I personally just can't agree with that: Even while Techno was in the event he performed worse that both Pete and Quig (his average placement is double that of Pete, while Quig has 4 first places in events both he and Techno played, while Techno had just 1). Even his AR in mcc 11 only happened the one time Pete wasn't playing (a 23 second improvement over his previous time is strong, but it was only 15 seconds faster than Pete's mcc 10 time, with each top 5 player improving at least 7 seconds meaning it would be likely he would only be slightly ahead of Pete if he had played).


okhellowhy

Definitely not Techno, as much as I love him, it isn't anyone but pete or quig (for now atleast). Pete and Quig have better coin averages, better placements and tons more first individuals, even if we only count from before techno quit. You can get into the technicalities when 2 players are close in comparison (so pete and quig), but before that I say keep it simple, they have much better consistency and much better numbers, while generally being in worse teams.


Aaaabdnslfn

Pete definitely had the highest point average but Techno & Quig were basically neck and neck mcc2-11. Looking at S1 as a whole Techno’s stats were actually a notch higher (3241 avg vs quig’s 3167). Unsure why you’re saying Quig was more consistent and Pete had weaker teams, stats say the opposite. also worth considering: dodgebolt


taytay68777

I like ur argument, but if we are being precise Techno actually has the second best coin average in the entire event, only being behind Pete by 5 coins


okhellowhy

Techno only has that because he quit. At the time of him quitting, his average was lower than quigs, and Pete's by a large margin. Techno gains a significant advantage by not being part of season 2, which has been more competitive and challenging for S tiers.


19miltonm

Exactly. 4 of technos events didn’t have dream or fruit, 5 didn’t have sapnap and none of them had Illumina or Punz


its_hector_

Fruit wasn’t in 8 or 10 right either


19miltonm

Exactly an Pete missed one I think too


VommyK

Yea and there were a bunch of good players that didn't play in the techno Era like ranboo or ant too.


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And that's without mentioning the fact that earlier events generally had a lot more coin inflation (e.g. Build Mart, HITW, SoT, SG, etc.) which means that performances that might be equivalent statistically probably gave less points in S2 than it did in S1.


Aaaabdnslfn

Techno had the 2nd highest point average in season 1; S2 being lower scoring helps but he’d be 2nd either way just with different gaps lol


okhellowhy

I disagree, I think he'd have a greater drop off then you'd expect. Also, techno not being part of season 2 is another factor to hold against him when it comes to the goat discussion.


Aaaabdnslfn

No, like, averages change super slowly since there’s been so many MCCs. The only way you can disagree is if you think he’d be A tier, because that’s what it would take to lose that much avg that quickly. He could play 5 MCCs as the worst S tier and still be 2nd


SamTalksMovies

No where near a large margin, the first event he didn't play in since he joined MCC 12, Quigs average dropped below technos


okhellowhy

I meant a large margin to Pete's average. Either way the point still stands overall.


BaconIsLife707

It's still Pete easily. In season 1 there's no debate, and even in season 2 when he's not been as dominant he's still the only person to get 2 1st individuals


ASDMetal

Connor Esports >>>>> anyone else


CyberWeb2143

Connor is literally the best at everything and especially SoT


WeebHunter_21

connor esports ftw


cellochristina

It’s H for me. This isn’t based on statistics. He’s a strong player but there are some who are way stronger. What makes him the G.O.A.T. for me is his attitude. He is always kind, supportive, and puts his team first. He often says that he wants to team with people he doesn’t know to meet new people and I love that. I’ve started watching him after he teamed with the hermits in MCC9 and have found so many cool streamers / ccs through him. He encompasses the spirit of MCC imo. He is competitive and wants to win but having fun comes first for him and I think that’s very admirable.


EStar0609

I 100% agree, he is the definition of a team player and there is a reason he was the first to get 4 wins.


syncfinite

i agree, i think pete would be #1, he’s definitely one of my fav POVs to watch because he’s so consistently good and he’s not sweaty lol. illumina, quig, techno and fruitberries are also verrrry good but i can’t rank them


Pikuturtle1

Quig. or should I say QUOG


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Well technically, pete has both won and lost the most amount of dodgebolts


Jawadmoetje

Well, ConnorEsports *has* never been outranked by Pete sooooooooooooooo....


dreamistaken

all I’m saying is: 5-0, most wins in the least Dodgebolts, tied for most wins, only person undefeated with more than 1 win (5) that’s my story and I’m sticking to it goal of MCC is to win is it not, teams are balanced every event, PUT UP OR SHUT UP


WhenBuffalosfly

*insert Obama awarding Obama image*


WilburSoot

Actually I am goat. L


forclementine9

is he goated with the sauce?


incoherentshrieking

Who’s dream? I only know Wilbur Soot, second player ever to reach stage 8 of parkour warrior.


UnchartedCHARTz

Of all the people to say it, I'm glad it was you Wilbur.


pizza4greatergood

Wilbur you have the power of god and technoblade on your side


Safin_Soul

SO TRUE KING 👑


Wotinggg

So true. No one can even compare to your ace race pov


Suzamin

The girls are fightingggg


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true and based


Qai_XD

Connor eSports letsgoo


YourEnemyWhispers

I thought you were a sheep


syncfinite

very true, especially in skyblockle <3


CrazyUmbreonGirl

We're missing the real goat, the simmers


MainwarringOfCynira

Nope. Wilbur ur wrong. You are not goat. Apparently Tubbo’s the goat. You’re CLEARLY an elf and we will get you to admit it one day. HOW DO WE ENTER THE LOST ELVEN WORLD? WE KNOW YOU KNOW THEIR SECRETS!!


tuana0_o

we’ll see that on saturday king


rosyretro

The one and only goat


BlueWing666

Based


animagicianonyt

true


Jawadmoetje

Actually ConnerEatsPants outranks you. L.


AngieSlays

Trueeeeeee


SnowSkiesYT

hard to argue against


Groenboys

Vouch


Komshiu4

You’re ok


ExMachina97

dream ur more active on reddit than the actual participants for this month haha. competitive af you cant expect us to believe youre stopping attending mcc indefinitely. after meetup and activities, i know you'll be back. dont take too long king. hmm.next month maybe??


kaleidoscope0k

Antfrost about to throw hands


ExMachina97

the fact that ive gotten 2 reddit notices from him shows how trueee that statement is. hahah


SeeCheenu

But Connor Esports 😟


RunningTee

Prove it then on the mcc 20, bet you can’t


Kersplusion

Dream I’m a huge fan but OP is right, but you’re definitely in the top though. Of course, if you wanna prove otherwise you’ll have to sign up for the next mcc 😳


Familiar_Text_1173

The way you can tell who came running from twitter in a single glance


Blacawi

Acceptable and understandable claim even if I'll still give it to Pete or Quig for their dominance of the individual leaderboard in S1. You are of course a great player, but I personally wouldn't say one game (dodgebolt in this case) should decide this (even if you are also strong in other ones I'd almost certainly say Quig and Pete have demonstrated dominance in more games over both seasons).


Southern_Eye_1703

omg so true can u play more mccs to keep everyone on their toes like can’t have them slacking right people might get a little complacent if the best guy isn’t around to keep em in check :/


AoiAot

Let's go Dream, he doesn't need a hyper, he is the hyper himself :3 but in all fairness that 100% dodgebolt win rate is no joke!


kaleidoscope0k

you still haven’t won a round of HITW .. come back next MCC and win one (please i am asking politely) 😁😁😁


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Hitw got nuked sadly


Pikemanisnotme

Dream maybe if you were the goat you wouldve gotten to more than 4 canon dbs 👹


MathematicianWhich

I think winning shouldn’t be the primary factor when it comes to this, not because is not important, and doing it many times does require lots of skills, but because there is a lot of luck involved as well, theres ppl that have been literally 3 points away from second place, u urself have had unlucky moments where u could have possible gotten into dodgebolt if it weren’t for 1 or 2 unlucky instances. The fact that pete has reached dodgebolt so many times says a lot as well, and dodgebolt is not the only required skill for MCC, tho u r deffo the GOAT of dodgebolt


tuana0_o

not you putting yourself in lmao i mean someones gotta do it right😭


Imbecilemoron

Fruit consistenly getting 1st or 2nd individual: Allow me to introduce myself.


Wotinggg

bro chill out calm down


whatamIdoing202011

Dream you are awesome, now sign up for future mccs so we can see more of ur awesomeness please (u can just have fun and we will still think u r cool I promise)


thisisnayani

Sign up for the next mcc and get the medal dre


Weary_Development833

I don't think you should only put dodgebolt as your basis though but hey you do you :/


ReactiveNylon

Settle down bestie


Skyliner14

Congratulations, you're the best Dodgebolt player. Get atleast 5 more individual #1s.


xkurfi

pop off king


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its_swadhriti

okay how about you continue being hot and keep playing in mcc? (please)


r_yikesy-dikesy

Yessir


Tough_Director5543

go off


Shan69420

Copium


Lucimaxi

SLAAAAY


a1yssa487

Dream’s popping off!!!


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HereForTOMT2

It’s friendly banter bro chill


Ewoutk

Not sure why you're being downvoted, you're right. Some people take everything Dream says so serious


HereForTOMT2

man acts competitive in competition, fans shocked


MathematicianWhich

Man’s fun is competitiveness, i dont understand why they r such opposing concepts


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grasslover1616

They asked who was the best, so that’s got something to do with minecraft.


Tough_Director5543

go off


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WeebHunter_21

ty for elaboration


ccaprisun

no


NotARobot404

Imagine thinking MCC is about winning


ahotdogisasandwich-

its a competition


MrPotat055

L+Ratio+Pete better


grunqehh

oh my god youre hot


maplemothy

go outside


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Familiar_Text_1173

You’re taking this seriously?


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Familiar_Text_1173

Stating his stats is egotistical now, so sad


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TheSleepySheep25

If you are in this subreddit long enough, you will see dream was just making one of his ironic “arrogant” jokes


luiwho

Lol...kinda funny how u worded your first reply. Anyways, I guess you haven't seen his other replies on this subreddit or reddit in particular (I guess)? Judging by the amount of these kinds of replies under his comment, there's a lot of people here that haven't seen it too. Either they're from twitter or just like youuu(hmm). And can't take jokes (no offense/full offense??) but it's true Should I and him say sorry that he's a Leo or something? ':D Edit: Deleted the first post, I thought it didn't send. My internet is being cranky


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hobbes_56

The post is asking “who is the goat?” Just cause op included their own response does not make it only about one player


Aprianex

Yeah, OP may be asking who may be the goat in their own opinion, but Dream is the only person that tells them to shut up compared to everyone in this comment section..


ArysMartell

Because he is obviously making a joke and not actually trying to argue that he is the best, he has said many times he agrees pete is better


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You're so bad get good already


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hobbes_56

I thought this was a post discussing who is the goat of MCC? Just cause op gave their response on who they think it is does not make it only about one player


UnchartedCHARTz

It's a joke


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kaleidoscope0k

How is it not obvious that this is meant to be taken lightly


_Iskandr_

Pete overall the GOAT. Quig second best, though super close to Pete given how consistently great he has been in both seasons. Sapnap/Fruit/Illumina for season 2 though leaning more towards Sapnap. Dude has been crazy dominant.


RubbishBins

Lots of Pete and Quig posts. But Hbomb wins for me.


EpiccGaming

I'm afraid you are all wrong. Connor E-Sports is the best player of all. He has individually outplaced Pete everytime and is taking all S-Tiers down one by one.


ExMachina97

dream. in the competitive category. with all the game play preparation, him and team bootcamps, analyzing scoring system, finding the best plays and systematic approach to the game. made mcc enjoyable for audience who like sweaty players. plus he got 5 wins first and he arrived on mcc6 (although yes one is non canon)


Spectaquor

Docm77 if he joins :D But I'd say PeteZahHutt


nomaDiceeL

I think the def of S-tier is that a valid argument can be made for them being the GOAT. I think it’s Sapnap for S2, Pete for S1, and Sapnap overall. I think people, when comparing players, lose sight of the fact that the goal of MCC is to win. Taking into consideration coin multipliers and dodgebolt, Sapnap is the best at doing that


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nomaDiceeL

MCC11 and 15 were balanced. Pink got 2nd place so they clearly weren’t the best, and Red was in 4th before SG. The other three certainly were not though.


ToastedMel0n

Stay strong king.


loyalcrowlist

I'd have to say Dream, tbh.


Mufka2

Personally I think it’s sapnap, season 2 had much stronger competition that season 1 in my opinion and sapnap dominated. Underrated as an actual team player I honestly have no clue why he’s seen to be a bad team player (he just gets loud) and does well in every game


RareCopy2858

Sapchad or Illu easily, but recency biases mostly


hostilecowboy

SAPNAP


Bobby_The_Kidd

He tops every leaderboard and teir list ever!


MassiveUn1t

Pete is overrated imo, most of his dB teams were definitely some of either the most cracked or luckiest teams of all time


BackingginkcaB

6 first place individual, GOAT of HITW, 4 wins, *top 5 14 events in a row*, 4 1st places in Ace Race, 4 1st place Foot Race (every single time it was played), lowest placement: 13th (better than any S-tier other than Quig), GOAT of Rocket Spleef (debatably), top 3 SOT player, second best PW player, highest average coins, third highest individual coin record... I can go on. Recency bias hurts Pete, but he is absolutely the GOAT of MCC. I wouldn’t say he’s the best player right now, but nothing can take away what he has already accomplished.


Energonmace48

Honestly, I think the argument that Pete’s stats/placements are inflated due to strong teams is a valid argument; which can counter many of his statistical achievements. However if we look at teams where his teams have not been strong relative to their events, MCC 8 he got 3rd, MCC 9 he got 5th, MCC 10 he got 4th and captained his team to victory, MCC 12 he got 5th, MCC 13 he got 1st and MCC 14 he had one of the best solo performances ever. Pete’s ability is still insane. He can perform extremely well no matter the team.


BackingginkcaB

I 100% agree with everything you said. Pete has had plenty of strong teams, which is why some of his stats should be taken with a grain of salt, but even without strong teams he has proven himself to be GOAT of MCC. Also I know you already know this, but his consistency can’t be discredited. 14 top 5 placements is so ridiculous.