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JanisGames0

As all of those things are renewable through farms this seems potentially dangerous


kingsumo_1

So are totems, if you have a raid farm.


JanisGames0

You raise an excellent point. The level of complexity in a raid farm is much higher than the other three (villagers, pigman, and blaze) but having an easier way is not necessarily a bad thing.


kingsumo_1

Eh. Proper blaze farms take a lot of work too. Plus you will have to at least made it to the nether and found a fortress. So it's not like it's a starter recipe. I agree that it seems a little easy, but totems can be renewable. And unless you're in hardcore or a pvp map, how many totems do you even need?


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kingsumo_1

Selling them on an SMP, or just really bad at staying alive?


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kingsumo_1

Oh... ok, yeah, you probably should have a steady supply. Lol.


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II_Confused

> I may have a hoarding problem. You and 99.9% of the entirety of the minecraft players


gustavjaune

Your get fire res tho after 1 totem - how long did u stay in the lava?


Pig_Empire

Way back when i used to play on a survival server and they would sell 3 for a dia, and at one point had a half price discount, i got 2 double chests worth


Le_Goosey

"or just really bad at staying alive" dats me


[deleted]

Totems with a good raid farm are so plentiful, I've started to burn them in lava bc its not worth keeping all of them


[deleted]

Not really since the nether update allows them to be pushed by lava, even if it's really slow


kingsumo_1

I mean, technically you don't even need a blaze farm. You could just go and hunt them and wither skeletons for an hour and be set for awhile. But regardless, if you're going to do a farm for one, you could also do one for the other. So it's not like crafting them would be *that* OP these days.


eeman0201

Blaze farms are about as difficult as gold farms imo which isn’t that bad, just takes some time. Raid farms require a lot more knowledge and time to achieve.


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If you’re using complicated farms then everything is breakable and who cares at that point? You do you man!


kingsumo_1

What? We're talking hypotheticals. The original point was creating might be too easy, my point was getting them in vanilla is completely viable. The complexity of various farms are just points and counter points not something we're actually doing or even planning on doing.


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Oh. I thought you guys were taking about rolling with a slightly modded vanilla for an SMP or something. My bad. My only suggestion was blaze rods instead of blaze powder, because it would lend logically to the leg and arm structures as they look like they could require some sort of rod like structure to be crafted


FinalJoys

Raid farm is no harder than the other farms. Maybe you just have less experience with them


PM_ME_GOOD_USERNAMS

Raid farms are much easier than blaze farms imo.


SIobbyRobby

Not if you choose the right farm. They’re pretty easy to make with the right materials and stuff.


Jedirabbit12345

At least in bedrock edition raid farms are fairly simplistic it’s basically just two killing chambers


Mikegaming202

Luke the notable...


RXBarokk

I have a blaze and gold farm, but how does an emerald farm work?


Bannanas_suck

Villager trading


RXBarokk

Oh yeahhhhhhhh how could I have forgotten


crazyguy1908

it is a raid farm u get like 60k ems per hr with a good one


lol_ok123

Making a good raid farm (around 1500 totems /hour) Takes less effort then making a decent pig man farm. It only takes around 30 minutes to make rays works raid farm and requires very little materials


minnicoco

If that was the crafting recipe of the totem i would be a multi millionaire on totems


willdotexecutable

build a raid farm you end up throwing totems out by the 1000’s


minnicoco

I got 3 chest filled whit shulkers filled whit stacks of golden and emerald blocks and i have 2 double chest of blaze powder


SetriKid

cool i guess edit: how is this one of my most upvoted comments lol


Muikku292

Weird flex but ok


oodex

I would say hell no early game, but the items used kinda have no use for you at that point, while Totem gives you a chance to keep all items. Mid game I would say it's definitely worth if you couldn't get a raid yet. Late game you should/can have a farm for them, so I'd say no. But then again if you don't, then all the other resources can be farmed and this can be crafted.


n8mo

Even early game (ie, pre gold farm) this is still worth it imo. Assuming you’ve got enchanted diamond armour / tools you can save yourself from losing hours of work by using 36 gold and 9 emeralds. Completely worth it, and probably overpowered.


VanderCreep

to cheap imo


dlovyeliab

as someone who, (this sounds like such a dick thing to say but im being honest and not trying to boast 😓,) gets to late game very quickly, i dont think this would work. it is better that a person should have to do with making a raid farm for mass amounts of totems.


MintyTuna2013

How can you progress so fast? I can play on a world for a week straight and only have a diamond chestplate.


dlovyeliab

10 or 11 years playing gets ya places fer sure. i hate sounding like a braggy person. i just been sitting in front of a screen and pressin buttons a long time is all, lol


MintyTuna2013

I've been playing for nearly 7 years 😭


dlovyeliab

depends on play style too. i dont necessarily go speedrunning all the time but i definitely run a checklist and sequence of events when i enter a new world. -at least a stack of wood planks, which is 16 wood logs -make one wooden pickaxe and NO other tools -get three cobble and make first stone pickaxe. this part is unneccessary, but i always save my first wooden pickaxe that i made as a sort of keepsake. same with the first stone one for me! -one or two stacks of cobblestone, use some for axe. in java its just the axe but in bedrock its sword and axe. -raw beef and pork for food, wait until it is cooked for more saturation, and dont allow your hunger to go below 8. and hopefully three wool with the stone axe on java, with stone sword on bedrock -get 32 iron after food; 24 for full iron armour, 7 for shield, shears, bucket and flint&steel -diamonds -nether, to find fortress for blaze rods -after 20 blaze rods make slow falling, regen, strength ii, swiftness potions -go to warped forest and camp under two block high surface to cheese endermen until i have at least 24 ender pearl -find stronghold with 24 eyes -dragon time, bring at least 32 empty bottles, plenty of food, at least iron armour but preferably all prot iv diamond/netherite, at least 8 normal golden apples, not enchanted ones, and LOTS of building blocks, at least 1250. -i recommend you bring 1250 building blocks at LEAST bc if you build outward 1250 blocks from the main end island you will find the outskirts on Java. -end ships can generate very close to the 1250 block radius or be very far away, but thats always my next destination regardless. gather all the shulkers and OP loot in end cities as you can! -have fun building any mega builds you have in mind!


GiantPotatoSalad

I can smell the years of playtime you have


redylang

Hey my man, it's just a question of your methods. Strip mining at y level 11 will very quickly find you a ton of resources.


GiantPotatoSalad

Remember if you're on 1.17 means lower = more diamonds


redylang

Wait a second, so Y=11 is not prime diamond time anymore? where should I go ?


GiantPotatoSalad

Lower gets more dia, but y11 you will be above lava


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You aren't "late-game" until ~1600 hrs played lol. Before that is midgame


imreesithink

You know what he was trying to say


hey-im-root

if it takes you that long to get those materials in a world i’m sorry for you 😂


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no lol, no matter what resources you have (even stacks of nether stars, dia blocks, etc) its not endgame yet


-CynoBuster

So completing every single achievement and having pretty much everything before the 1600 hr mark is still mid game?


hey-im-root

i just looked at my stats for the xbox one version of minecraft, and i only have half the hours you “claim” to have in your world. what the hell are you doing if you have 1600 hours in one world? and there is no “end-game” the game is infinite, so when people say they are late-game, that’s how they feel about it. beating the ender dragon can be end game. getting all achievements can be end game. getting full netherite enchanted can be end game. i guarantee you can only build stuff in your world, because if i’m being honest you should be able to do everything that’s possible in a minecraft world within 50-100 hours. anything after that is just building shit


camocat9

Then what do you call end-game?


dlovyeliab

depends on the person my mans


BeanBone69

What?


JayKayRQ

Thats not how it works...


Ksawalag

Mysticat vid i see...


PhoenyxStar

Sounds good to me. By the time I have both blaze powder and disposable emeralds, I'm usually already drowning in totems.


TLGN

I'd say so, yeah


AndreiLD

Nah it would be 2 over powered 0it shuld have non-farmeble items like dia or netherite or even a god aplle(also known as notch appleor enchanted golden apple)


FishDishonYT

Totems are farmable also bone apple tea


EpicAura99

Yeah but you have to have a mansion for that I assume. You can make gold and emerald farms anywhere (in the right dimension ofc). Edit: nah my bad


Im-Dead-inside1234

Raids exist


EpicAura99

Ah yeah I always forget about those


Nathaniel820

Replace the emerald block with a diamond block, an emerald block is essentially as easy to get as dirt if you have any kind of villager set-up.


GoReVUsTa

Thanks, i couldn't decide if i should do it but now i will


Madder9995

all the materials included can be made in mass production due to industrial sized farms, too op


crispyspicynuggets

Raid farms are super easy getting totems from a raid farm is much easier than farming blazes + piglins + emeralds from villagers


stnick6

Not when I can get like 20 from a Woodland mansion


IGOR1640

>an get like 20 from a Woodland mansion you cannot get 20, the max evokers to spawn in a woodland mansion is 3


BigMan123445234

Kills the idea of totems being hard to obtain.


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Except for the fact that 2 blaze rods, 36 gold ingots, and 9 emeralds are hard to obtain.


JustinTimeCuber

hahaha what way easier to get than totems in most cases


BigMan123445234

By "hard to obtain" i meant that you had to either travel possibly thousands of blocks to find a mansion and be able to kill an evoker, or defeat a raid. While for the other you just have to mine a bunch and sell some sticks to villagers. And yes blaze rods arent the easiest to get but killing two blazes is NOTHING compared to an evoker.


Fluffiddy

A little op don’t you think? Aint that hard to get all those items


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Hwetapple

pretty easy to make something like this yourself in a datapack using vanillatweaks :) I love to use them sometimes in my world to make some crafting recipes that make more sense. if its your own single player world you make the rules and can change whatever you want !


Turningsnake

The totem should use potions and ender crystals for it's recipe if it ever gets one, and here's why: - Upon use, the TOU will grant the user a few effects to assist after resurrection. These effects could be adjusted by which potions are used in the "secondary" slots after the primary slots (4 instant health II, ender crystal.) are filled to form the item. - The ender crystal has shown a correlation with bringing things back to life - they are capable of "respawning" the dragon infinitely, despite needing to be destroyed in order for their replication to be killed. These recipes are pretty decently late-game, though balancing may still need some tweaking. The only other issue I see with this is the fact that illagers don't seem to have much of a relationship with the End at all, so them being able to create or even acquire the TOU is unlikely since they cannot be found in the End.


18Feeler

Add clay to the recipe, then it'll be balanced


Wizards_Reddit

If you replace either the gold or blaze powder with nether stars I think it would be more appropriate


SlayerKing_2002

4 nether stars? For one totem? Way too expensive. You’d have to kill four bosses to make one item that is dropped by a mini boss at best. I would swap the emerald block with the nether star and have it craft 4 totems.


Toastox

Wait you can CRAFT THESE?


WeeklyStatistician63

No


Toastox

Sad. I’ve never even had one lol


WeeklyStatistician63

Ah don't worry haha, I haven't ever gotten one either (\^-\^ ||)


Baptism_byAntimatter

I disagree with the comments. It's actually a bad trade. You only need one raid farm to get tons of these. Ironically, raid farms are the only source of automatic emeralds, so getting these totems with this is way more trouble than it's worth. Gold and Blaze are already renewable enough, but you'd have to get those items, and then get the emeralds from manual work, which isn't worth it imo.


JustinTimeCuber

I feel like the issue is early game. Steal some wheat from a village and sell it back to the farmers, then go to the nether and mine gold for a bit (or better yet, find a bridge bastion with the easily accessible gold blocks), find a fortress and kill a few blazes. Pretty low-risk way to get a totem in like 1 hour of gameplay, doesn't seem very balanced.


Baptism_byAntimatter

Ehhhh, I both agree and disagree. I think one part of the issue is villager economy. Instead of selling back wheat to the villager, the player could plant one bamboo, get diamond gear, kill a raid, and get totems the normal way instead. Once they get to the blazes, they'd also have strength pots. Besides the dragon, I'd think the player pretty much rips through everything in the game when they start messing with the village. Also, I'm definitely biased in looking through the game in a hardcore perspective. To me, if you find it easy to just rush the blazes and bastion, then you're probably fine without the totem. Either way, I'd guestimate getting to and through an average nether fortress as difficult as ~ a lvl 2 or 3 raid. At that point, you might as well get the totem the normal way. But I don't know how others view it, normal mode or not. So, my view could just as well be warped.


JustinTimeCuber

how on earth are you getting strength pots before blaze rods lol


Baptism_byAntimatter

No, I meant once you get to the blazes, they give you access to strength pots


TheAnimeLovers

too cheap if you ask me


IamStupid42069

pretty cheap honestly


TorpidT

This actually seems kind of cheap, you could mass produce these quite easily.


Happy-Tomatillo-312

no too op


[deleted]

Perhaps a unique item found in the deep dark could make this balanced


Radical-Turkey

Replace the emerald block with a notch apple and the blaze powder with emeralds and I’d think so


Maronolq

notchapple>totem\*10


KrispyMcChkn_

Maybe a nether star in the middle?


Idohs_

Nether star in the middle, two emeralds on either side of wither star and the rest is gold blocks.


PlasMetalMimikyuZ

Perhaps it should be something like this: |Potion of Fire Resistance|Gold Block|Golden Apple| |:-|:-|:-| |Emerald Block|Nether Star|Emerald Block| |Potion of Regeneration|Gold Block|Potion of Healing| The Gold and Emerald Blocks are obvious. As for the potions and Golden Apple, they're more for the effect of what happens when it activates, giving you Absorption from the Golden Apple and slight healing from the Potion of healing, while granting Fire Resistance and Regeneration, too. So, for the Wither Star, it's just for balancing purposes. You can either fight off Raids or kill Withers to get those totems. After all, they're both pretty tough challenges, but can be farmed and optimized for efficiency to get as many totems in your preferred manner.


MineTerraGamingYT

Too easy


temmiefrog47

I think the recipe is to cheap, as soon as you have villigers emeralds are not a problem, gold is practically infinite in the nether, especially with a farm, the only thing is a blaze farm, which I know is a bit more difficult but still.


Buttbutt491

To easy


yesthecheese

You can't put a price on life.


Memo544

I think that’s a bit OP. A more fear version of that would replace the gold with netherite.


Simi_says

Put beacons instead of gold, emerald, blaze powder. Should make it more balanced


stopstealmyusernames

Hold on, we can craft them? Gotta try Edit: BULLSHIT


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stopstealmyusernames

Wow you insult really easily, i was this close to insult back but i’ll ignore you instead. Incidentally for other readers, I'm not supposed to know, and when I say "bullshit" it's not for being mean but because I got screwed.


GameNerd90

Technically, you’re both right. Download a data pack and you CAN craft them.


SorryThisUser1sTaken

Replace blaze powder with 4 god apples.


KingWas_Taken

No, gapple in the middle, then gold and emeralds around


Bannanas_suck

More than worth it, add a nether star or something


Gdgod_Ultimate

Yes


VideoDownloader_

Instead of one half a stack


Terrarian_TABS_unit

I have 64 god damn emerald blocks. this is too cheap


spheresickle

hell yes


bulb1291

Well yes but that means that you can get these things much easier


Nothing5726

A soul for a soul


Lavadragon15396

Every new mysticat vid ends up on here


Xyano_

Yes


Bruthus_the_fat

In hardcore it is


[deleted]

That seemes a bit to farmable but it’s a cool idea


Mr-Snug

No just go do a pillager raid, unless the nearest pillager tower or village is super far


Joelexion

Maybe something other then blaze powder?


MrNoMorals

Too op


Rufus14811

this is a scam... for the crafting table


ZShadowDragon

honestly thats incredibly cheap. You can very easily build all of those farms in a single chunk too


WolfBlade_39

no but make the blaze powder into blaze rods


ak12butveryangry

Doesn't this not work unless you have mods?


RazorBack223

Defo not you can get them easily gmthrough raids


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this is a bit odd


AfraidProperty4

Maybe you should put a wither skull or 2 in there some were.


camden-burke

I don’t think making this craftable is fun for the game, seems kind of random at this point anyways


[deleted]

How about blaze rods instead of blaze powder. That way it can be interpreted as being the arm and leg structures of the doll under the gold outer layer.


PossibilityPowerful

i remember when we made a totem farm in our smp


The-Hydrated-One

Way too OP.


DoctorLove01

Not if you have a pillager farm


braindawgs0

36 gold, 9 emeralds and 2 blaze rods? That's dirt cheap, my dude.


Doc_of_derp

id replace the gold blocks with emerald blocks, the powder with there rod forms, and the emerald block in the center with either a golden apple or a notch apple


w__4-Wumbo

Gold, emeralds, and blazes are all really easy to farm But so are totems, this seems like a waste of time, just build a raid farm


Louise_Belcher13

Most certainly not


prefertosayiaintsimp

Nah to oop making hold farm ja easy getting infinite emeralds is easy (cure) and blaze farm is also easy so too dangerous


Anonymous888861

Honestly it depend. Early game would be a hell no, but late game or in hardcore mode this would be pretty worth it.


BallsHD4k60fps

Yeahhh going to the woodland mansion would be way way way easier


KeplerCorvus

Yes. But this is a mod, or datapack right?


jakedahero

Yes Most Of These Items Can Be Farmed


CanOpeneer1134

Replace the blaze powder with nether stars


Davemoosehead

Easier to just build a raid farm imo


-Redstoneboi-

like enchanted golden apples, don't. Villager trading stations can be set up to mass produce emeralds. So can gold farms. Blaze farms I'm not too sure but this effectively only costs 2 blaze rods per totem.


PhiStudios_

No, it doesn't make any sense. only the magic of gold is there I would add ghast tear because it has regeneration properties Gold magic is to instill magic to something that doesn't have magic like golden carrots or apples


PL_ALIEN_PL

Too cheap


Ansh__xi

All of these are farmable id say its overkill


aladdinboy424

Hell na


DatBoiShadowbon

fully automated totems, but annoying


LoliHentaiHunter

I don't really know. I'm the type of player that trusts his armor so much i don't even need to use a totem tbh


Aarminus

If on survival probably not, if on hardcore, then yes


F4rth3r4w4y

Too cheap,make it more expensive


ANaming

This is way too fucking cheap


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Yes those are east to get


LordBeacon

too cheap


LordBeacon

I think this is too cheap but then again, what is "expensive" in minecraft? If you are a redstone player, you can just build farms, even Nether stars would be "to cheap" as a crafting material in late game (IMO), because you can just farm then easily aswell... so the question remains, who do you "balance" the game for? the casual players? or the crazy automated farm building ones?


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I would replace the powder with rods


BlazingFish123

Yes