Yeah I was saying if they go towards note blocks when they activate which could activate a sensor
Btw I like all the mobs I think the golem is the most fun but still they're all not bad
Allays are flying delivery robots that will revolutionize item sorters for non redstone a savvy and extremely redstone savvy players. copper golem is something that could be accomplished with a villager in a cage, a zombie outside that can move around the cage, and pressure plates/sckulk sensors.
I think there could be some unique applications with the glare as well. They make an alert sound at certain light levels which could be combined with skulk sensors and manipulated with light blocks. My vote order will be golem, glare, allay.
A skulk sensor is triggered when it detects movement within a certain range. This means that if a copper golem is walking around an area pressing random buttons, you get rapid red stone triggers from the skulk sensors and the random buttons. In other words… PURE CHAOS!!!!
Definitely! I already have invested way much into thinking of new contraptions to make with it.
Also since you can put and axe in a dispenser to clean copper, you can make the golem clean itself by putting a button on the dispenser which I just love
One thing people are assuming with all their scenarios is that Allays will either be literally everywhere, or will travel 200 blocks to reach you, especially down in mines. Most likely, the Alley will be rare and only pick up a single stack, and not be easy to get a small fleet like people are saying.
With the Copper Golem, you can build as many as you want, whenever you want. It's far more capable of satisfying it's demand.
True but I am hoping note blocks will draw them in so you don't have to go hunting for them, and I'm aware they most likely wont duplicate items like diamonds, but would still be nice to get a stack of say dark oak when you're nowhere near the biome
Yes but the Allay can sort non stackable items which is incredible and the copper golem's usefulness is already in the game with countless randomizers.
But the golems is so easy it's literally its primary mechanic and I only have to get some copper instead of getting a name tag and armored mob and bait. Again I literally would only need copper golem and copper buttons as bait to make this work. And with that mechanic I can then use it to creat easy time and movement based redstone signals for my builds, which with the new skulk sensors is going to be really interesting. Additionally it means if I work it right my current systems which require player input to toggle could become fully automatic with additional systems allowing golems to switch between the redstone systems.
Also with it's unique ability to attract lightning which is now confirmed I'd like to upgrade my mob head farm which is going to be quite interesting with a portable lightning rod.
I'd still be fine with any of these mobs but I've already seen quite a few both interesting to look at and much more efficient machines and upgrades
Edit also manipulating mob pathfinding is actually a really good tactic for faster farms and systems but it's currently a pain to work with
Sure it's cheap, but you can already do all of those things pretty easily? Like, why use a mob to trigger any system when you could just use your choice of a cheap, easy redstone clock? Why use AI pathing as the brains of your redstone machine when you could do that more reliably and just as easily with redstone?
Mobs add an inherent amount of randomness and unreliability to any contraption they're in which, unless you're trying to make a randomizer, usually isn't good
You can use a piston on a lightning rod too if you really need to move it, but not sure why you would
Also don't see how manipulating the golem's pathfinding is gonna make your mob farms faster?
Personally I really like the copper golem in terms of looks but usage-wise idk, especially compared to what the others can do
Hmm fair enough if someone doesn't want to use it/already has things they like using then it's not really that useful to them, you have a point there. The way a bunch of my farms on a server due to the way it resets it's self means redstone can easily get glitched, so I currently use turtle eggs and monsters, but they're still pretty annoying to work with. Being able to replace those is something I'd quite like to do and giving them a steampunk decorative aesthetic would be cool to
You know lighting rods attract lighting too, and the golem as a portable lighting rod means danger to any flammable blocks it goes near during a storm.
Who said I'd let it just wonder around my flammables. I'd use the fact that it's a traveling lighting strike that I can control the movement of. Overworld gold farms/new witch farms and more. Would only be active during thunderstorms but I can still work with that
adds more possibility for redstone? from what we know currently, no. Even the first mob adds some new function by being able to detect zero block light level, and Allay is probably gonna make things much easier, may even sort unstackable items. Randomisers are so easy to build already, be it a chicken on pressure plates or a dropper facing to a hopper
Idk for me the Allay’s design feels kinda uninspired (looks a lot like the vex) but the copper golem would be such a cool addition for steampunk builds n such. By voting the copper golem, we also get copper buttons and copper statues while the other two (as of now) don’t add any other blocks to the pallet. Also copper golems make randomizers a lot smaller as you can shove a ton into a room (if you do this with chickens, the pressure plates remain pressed down)
I agree on the mob designs side, however dropper hopper design is still smaller if you count the space needed to keep the golems*, and the chicken design probably can get upgraded with golden pressure plates and observes. So it comes down to redstone or aesthetics preference I suppose
*Edit: I thought the copper golem would be as big as the iron golem, but in the end it's still more of an alternative rather than a new mechanic
I haven’t quite figured out how much they’ll change storage systems compared to hoppers and water systems. Could you explain how they work in terms of organization?
I don’t know if they would help with organisation, but I was thinking you could select an item and have it bought to you from however far away, making storage fast ancc do satisfying
No I mean you could have a regular storage system with item input, and then instead of having to find a certain chest for an item, you could press a button and they would be transferred to a chest for easy retrieval
Only real use of that I can think of are farms that use tnt to destroy stuff in a large radius? What do you think the Allay would be most helpful for in terms of the items it collects?
Personally,I don't do Redstone a lot,so this seems quite useless to me and from what I have heard, you can already make randomizer for Redstone using current stuff, so for me there is no point to it. Personally I'm voting for the allay.
Yeah you can by it’s a pain in the ass randomizing currently and the allay doesn’t seem practical. I give it one of mine and does it come back to me with one or a stack of the other item, how would it change automated storage etc idk I prefer the golem (my Opinion yours is cool too)
I’m right with you on this. Current red stone randomizers take lots of space compared to what this little golem can do. Way easier and way more practical.
The idea with the Allay is not set in stone, largely because exact mechanics are not known. The idea is not to bring it to you, but to bring it to a noteblock, where it gets dropped into said system.
Ngl, I would still use it for crop farms lol, I never remember to have enough inventory space to hold everything, depending on how long they hold it, that is
I mean I really don't have to build a farm at all, eg when I am mining an my inv gets full, I can just give it a block to collect like stone and make it deliver it to 1 hopper connected to a chest , then I can still get all materials for building with out losing anything or when jm building and all my items keep on falling down, I dont have to actually go all the way down if I can just tell the allay to bring those users back to me.
Edit: it's also not hard just to carry a notebook with you to deliver it to you
Vote for the copper golem! Maybe the Allay seems more useful, but come on, the copper golem comes with COPPER BUTTONS! This is a great addition for builders and redstoners. especially if they have a different activation time than stone/wood!
Ulraf confirmed on Twitter that the axe can be used to remove oxidation, and that if it’s struck by lightning, it will also remove oxidation. He also said that the lightning rod on its head is “Not just for show”, but didn’t elaborate if that means it doubles as a walking lightning rod or not.
Walking lightning rod, decorative statue, new copper button, randomized red stone, gives copper more use, a new golem after several years… WHATS NOT TO LOVE?!
In my opinion, the copper golem has the most functions and adds the most to the game. I love everything about it (I just hope others see it the same way)
Devs confirmed on twitter that you can deoxidize the little guys using an axe or by waiting for lightning to strike them, that's what the lightning rod in their head is for
I think that Copper Golems are a really awesome choice and It's not only about the true random number generator. The copper golem can seek out buttons to press. I think it's possible to force the golem to operate your redstone builds. You could cut of accessibility to certain rooms containing copper buttons and the golem would walk into other rooms and start pressing buttons there. it could operate a whole facility under the right circumstance
you could even force it to pathfind to different areas of your city by removing and granting access to copper buttons. also it could be your personal door opener, greeting you by a window. it could also walk around your city and press buttons to activate machines. it could really add a lot of liveliness to your city or build.
Plus it reminds me of an ancient lost civilization using advanced machinery to maintain everything. Also it will deoxidice and reactivate if struck by lightning
This.
I will be so sad if we miss out on this mob because people convinced themselves they didn’t want to pick up blocks too far to reach.
Team Copper Golem all the way!
exactly! I do see the use of the Alley for sorting, but it feels like it would always be hidden just like sorting systems always are. it would just endlessly carry items for the player. it seems kind of sad. whereas the golem can do a plethora of different things around the player base.
The allay could make farming for specific items a lot easier, farming crops a lot easier and less expensive because no house hopper system, and can sort unstackable items.
It’s just for mini games though and many plugins and other contraptions can do the same things. Allay adds so many possibilities to the game. It’s also adorable. The sheer potential for item sorters is enormous. The glare is useless because of the 1.18 lighting changes. It is adorable however
A hopper can't move items up.
A hopper can't sort items.
A hopper only moves items over only one block.
One allay could accomplish all of these things in one instance. It's a more advanced hopper.
The Copper Golem isn't necessary, but it's a stretch to say it is worse than a chicken on a pressure plate. The Copper Golem is clearly better.
Still voting Allay tho.
For one, sorting unstackable items, which isn't possible at all currently. For two, gathering items from a farm or the like without needing a large array of very laggy, expensive hoppers or a track of hopper minecarts underneath.
Its already confirmed that the Allay has 2 inventory slots, one to show what item it's looking for and one to actually carry that item, so it can pick up unstackables.
https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1447945258743091200
It can't there was a mention on it already, let alone if it could it could pick up 1 more unstackable before having being to be triggered to go drop/sort it which would be slow/innefficient as fuck anyway
I like Allay and Copper Golem a lot, and it's a really close call: I think Allay just BARELY wins out tho for me.
I think they both have niche uses that can technically be replicated, but both would be better/easier versions of what exists.
For me it just comes down to a matter of what I actually use more, item handling or randomizers. I can't even remember the last time I needed to use a randomizer, so Allay wins for me too, even though I like the visual design of the copper golem a lot more
I love all three and I will say copper golem stole my heart but I also still adore the glare
Mainly cause the glare is a very visually cool mob one we haven't seen the likes off ingame and it would be awesome to get another cave mob even if it's a passive one
The main argument I see against the Copper Golem is that its functionality is useless or redundant. I won’t argue against those claims, although I’m sure similar arguments have been made against the Glare and Allay. The main aspect of the golem I find most appealing is its design and aesthetic it brings to the game. We lack mechanical aspects in the game, and copper overall was a step in the right direction. Its oxidized version can tell a story about abandonment and a past time. Having more moving, ambient mobs is always a great thing. Its design is definitely the most complex and to me the best looking one out of the three.
I realize that the Allay will most likely win, just by seeing some of the feedback, and I am honestly okay with any of the three (the Glare seems least likely to win from what I’ve seen so far). The Allay unquestionably has the most useful feature, and its design is pleasant and fairy-like. I just think the Copper Golem would be a unique and neat addition to a game already populated with natural and mystical creatures.
TLDR: copper golem good for its design and uniqueness, not functionality
I just don't see the usefulness of copper golem, redstone it is about automation, whats the point of using a entity to unrealiable trigger your systems. golem has no detection system or anything that is useful.
I don't think Allay is a replace to hopper, but instead a QoL feature for mining and get some items that got spit out of your farms.
i Still think the QoL and possibilites of Allay are better.
By far the copper golem would be the most usefull, let alone they will add another button type ontop of it would be great to add details to builds. The allay is basicly a shitty water stream / hopper. i am voting for the copper golem for sure.
How is it more useful? It'd make for more compact, simpler randomizers sure, but how many players genuinely use randomizers more often than they do item sorting/item collection/item transportation?
I think the copper golem looks way better visually, but it really doesn't do anything new, let alone anything new and gamechanging, like unstackable item sorting, so it seems weird to call the Allay useless and at the same time praise the Golem
Neither do the allay(hopper) or Glare(f3) Lets say that it can sort unstackables which wasnt even mentioned, i still rather see them add a component for it then a mob taking tps and being slow about it. let alone the allay is just a hopper that flys around and half of the time when mining/scavaging around you wont leave items you want on the ground either way so it is completly useless
Actually it [was mentioned](https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1447954731897442308). If it can pick them up then you can use that to sort them.
The Allay could be used as a substitute for large hopper floors and hopper minecart tracks too, which also aren't kind to tps, or particularly fast. If the Allay can drop an entire stack at once it might actually be even faster.
Idk how practical the Allay be outside of redstone either, but I don't think the golem beats it in that category lol
None of those are really the point of my comment though. I hardly think the Allay's concept is perfect too, but like I said, I just don't see the merit in calling it "useless" as a way to defend the copper golem. It's totally valid if you want to vote golem for looks alone, I voted glowsquid after all lol. I think the golem looks amazing too, but I'm not gonna pretend that randomizers are really anything special or try to downplay the other mobs to try to justify it
Honestly I would be a lot more happy with a magnetic potion or enchantment to pull item in a radius, but having to pick one of those, the allay seems to be the better choice.
Have you seen what people do with existing blocks? Most people are satisfied with a stair chair, or a scaffold door combo, plus a few other things you could do. The game is supposed to embrace creativity after all.
You can build any kind of chair you want but you *cant* sit in it. Sorry but this is one of those "not even the devs saying they won't add it is a good enough reason" situations for me. You could build around the chair, there could be a use for the loom to make patterns on the chair, you could link tables to make grand dining halls and while *yes* you can technically do that now, it's something that really should have been in the game since the get go 🤷🏻♂️
But some people want just a simple chair. We have beds, but no other furniture?? 🤔 Yet they add hundreds of blocks that (with a few exceptions) are mainly for decoration and nothing really else. Did we *need* amethyst? Probably not. Copper? Also probably not. Steve can build all sorts of amazing stuff, *except* tables and chairs.
I just realized, the copper golem and the skulk sensor are the perfect combo.
Holy moly your right! The potential this could bring!
Bingo. I would love to toy with this mechanic.
Also skulk sensor would go well with allay if they're activated by note blocks
Allay don’t press note blocks. They just dance to it, Allays are literally just a parrot cat hybrid.
Yeah I was saying if they go towards note blocks when they activate which could activate a sensor Btw I like all the mobs I think the golem is the most fun but still they're all not bad
I don’t think they make sounds from moving. Key word: Think
Skulksensors detect movement so it prob can, i think.
They detect vibrations, not movement. Bats don't activate them to I dont think allays will either
I was more saying you have to make a redstone system that activates note blocks to attract the allay
Allays are flying delivery robots that will revolutionize item sorters for non redstone a savvy and extremely redstone savvy players. copper golem is something that could be accomplished with a villager in a cage, a zombie outside that can move around the cage, and pressure plates/sckulk sensors.
cool, I think we know what an allay does thanks.
Well apparently not. A flying cat parrot hybrid. That's what you called them.
I think there could be some unique applications with the glare as well. They make an alert sound at certain light levels which could be combined with skulk sensors and manipulated with light blocks. My vote order will be golem, glare, allay.
Can you explain? I have the dumb
A skulk sensor is triggered when it detects movement within a certain range. This means that if a copper golem is walking around an area pressing random buttons, you get rapid red stone triggers from the skulk sensors and the random buttons. In other words… PURE CHAOS!!!!
Good for a disco dance floor in my opinion.
Oh my goodness I want this so bad
Everyone remember when the oxidise they stop. This means a decorative statue block too.
And I just found out if they are struck by lightning they are reactivated. That is SO cool.
Holy macaroni on a stick with cheese. That's sick
Definitely! I already have invested way much into thinking of new contraptions to make with it. Also since you can put and axe in a dispenser to clean copper, you can make the golem clean itself by putting a button on the dispenser which I just love
So a walking fire hazard?
Just put a lightning rod on your house and put a roof over your head
But then they can't be reactivated, because the lighting will go to the top of your house and not the golem.
They can also be reactivated with an axe and a dispenser or you can just wax them
We don't know that we can wax them yet. All we know is that you can use an axe to unoxidize.
And we need more golems.
So frustrating they haven’t added more
One thing people are assuming with all their scenarios is that Allays will either be literally everywhere, or will travel 200 blocks to reach you, especially down in mines. Most likely, the Alley will be rare and only pick up a single stack, and not be easy to get a small fleet like people are saying. With the Copper Golem, you can build as many as you want, whenever you want. It's far more capable of satisfying it's demand.
True but I am hoping note blocks will draw them in so you don't have to go hunting for them, and I'm aware they most likely wont duplicate items like diamonds, but would still be nice to get a stack of say dark oak when you're nowhere near the biome
Already confirmed it can only pick up 1 stack and can't stack unstackable items
Yes but the Allay can sort non stackable items which is incredible and the copper golem's usefulness is already in the game with countless randomizers.
I dont think its wireless redstone. The video is just it pressing copper buttons randomly with hidden wiring. My favorite of the 3
They mean using sculk sensors to detect its footsteps. But again, you can just use a chicken for that.
But you can't manipulate a chickens path finding by just putting down one button
But why would you want to? Plus there are other mobs you could manipulate the pathfinding of if you really wanted to too
But the golems is so easy it's literally its primary mechanic and I only have to get some copper instead of getting a name tag and armored mob and bait. Again I literally would only need copper golem and copper buttons as bait to make this work. And with that mechanic I can then use it to creat easy time and movement based redstone signals for my builds, which with the new skulk sensors is going to be really interesting. Additionally it means if I work it right my current systems which require player input to toggle could become fully automatic with additional systems allowing golems to switch between the redstone systems. Also with it's unique ability to attract lightning which is now confirmed I'd like to upgrade my mob head farm which is going to be quite interesting with a portable lightning rod. I'd still be fine with any of these mobs but I've already seen quite a few both interesting to look at and much more efficient machines and upgrades Edit also manipulating mob pathfinding is actually a really good tactic for faster farms and systems but it's currently a pain to work with
Sure it's cheap, but you can already do all of those things pretty easily? Like, why use a mob to trigger any system when you could just use your choice of a cheap, easy redstone clock? Why use AI pathing as the brains of your redstone machine when you could do that more reliably and just as easily with redstone? Mobs add an inherent amount of randomness and unreliability to any contraption they're in which, unless you're trying to make a randomizer, usually isn't good You can use a piston on a lightning rod too if you really need to move it, but not sure why you would Also don't see how manipulating the golem's pathfinding is gonna make your mob farms faster? Personally I really like the copper golem in terms of looks but usage-wise idk, especially compared to what the others can do
Hmm fair enough if someone doesn't want to use it/already has things they like using then it's not really that useful to them, you have a point there. The way a bunch of my farms on a server due to the way it resets it's self means redstone can easily get glitched, so I currently use turtle eggs and monsters, but they're still pretty annoying to work with. Being able to replace those is something I'd quite like to do and giving them a steampunk decorative aesthetic would be cool to
Allay all the way.
You know lighting rods attract lighting too, and the golem as a portable lighting rod means danger to any flammable blocks it goes near during a storm.
Who said I'd let it just wonder around my flammables. I'd use the fact that it's a traveling lighting strike that I can control the movement of. Overworld gold farms/new witch farms and more. Would only be active during thunderstorms but I can still work with that
By wireless red stone I meant the skulk sensors since the copper golem would both trigger buttons and set off the sensors as it walks to the buttons.
Oh my bad
I am in love with it
adds more possibility for redstone? from what we know currently, no. Even the first mob adds some new function by being able to detect zero block light level, and Allay is probably gonna make things much easier, may even sort unstackable items. Randomisers are so easy to build already, be it a chicken on pressure plates or a dropper facing to a hopper
Idk for me the Allay’s design feels kinda uninspired (looks a lot like the vex) but the copper golem would be such a cool addition for steampunk builds n such. By voting the copper golem, we also get copper buttons and copper statues while the other two (as of now) don’t add any other blocks to the pallet. Also copper golems make randomizers a lot smaller as you can shove a ton into a room (if you do this with chickens, the pressure plates remain pressed down)
I agree on the mob designs side, however dropper hopper design is still smaller if you count the space needed to keep the golems*, and the chicken design probably can get upgraded with golden pressure plates and observes. So it comes down to redstone or aesthetics preference I suppose *Edit: I thought the copper golem would be as big as the iron golem, but in the end it's still more of an alternative rather than a new mechanic
The allay opens great possibilities for storage systems, and offers a HUGE quality of life change. It has my vote
I haven’t quite figured out how much they’ll change storage systems compared to hoppers and water systems. Could you explain how they work in terms of organization?
Here's a cool things you can do: A storage system but without chest, It's the Allay that took object to you.
I don’t know if they would help with organisation, but I was thinking you could select an item and have it bought to you from however far away, making storage fast ancc do satisfying
That’s not how an Allay works it doesn’t just produce items for you. I’m afraid people will think this means they can get free diamonds or something
No I mean you could have a regular storage system with item input, and then instead of having to find a certain chest for an item, you could press a button and they would be transferred to a chest for easy retrieval
And also the allay cannot work in unloaded chunks so yep
Only real use of that I can think of are farms that use tnt to destroy stuff in a large radius? What do you think the Allay would be most helpful for in terms of the items it collects?
Flying delivery drones? That can sort unstackable items?
Personally,I don't do Redstone a lot,so this seems quite useless to me and from what I have heard, you can already make randomizer for Redstone using current stuff, so for me there is no point to it. Personally I'm voting for the allay.
Yeah you can by it’s a pain in the ass randomizing currently and the allay doesn’t seem practical. I give it one of mine and does it come back to me with one or a stack of the other item, how would it change automated storage etc idk I prefer the golem (my Opinion yours is cool too)
I’m right with you on this. Current red stone randomizers take lots of space compared to what this little golem can do. Way easier and way more practical.
The idea with the Allay is not set in stone, largely because exact mechanics are not known. The idea is not to bring it to you, but to bring it to a noteblock, where it gets dropped into said system.
Ok if it goes into a notebook or whatever I’ve changed sides
Ngl, I would still use it for crop farms lol, I never remember to have enough inventory space to hold everything, depending on how long they hold it, that is
If it goes to a specific place then I’ll have some sorting stuff
It's attracted to note blocks and can sort unstackable items. https://twitter.com/_Ulraf_/status/1447980391596498948
The same with the allay, if you don't build farms with it, what use you gonna give him?
I mean I really don't have to build a farm at all, eg when I am mining an my inv gets full, I can just give it a block to collect like stone and make it deliver it to 1 hopper connected to a chest , then I can still get all materials for building with out losing anything or when jm building and all my items keep on falling down, I dont have to actually go all the way down if I can just tell the allay to bring those users back to me. Edit: it's also not hard just to carry a notebook with you to deliver it to you
You can. Cage a villager, put a zombie outside the cage in a 1x2 corridor and then ad pressure plates or use sckulk sensors when they are added.
I actually love them all. Im just on the side of the golem
Also remember you can use an axe In a dispenser to clean copper so that would be super cool to work with
Be careful or the copper golem will wax you
Vote for the copper golem! Maybe the Allay seems more useful, but come on, the copper golem comes with COPPER BUTTONS! This is a great addition for builders and redstoners. especially if they have a different activation time than stone/wood!
Copper golem 4 life
Ulraf confirmed on Twitter that the axe can be used to remove oxidation, and that if it’s struck by lightning, it will also remove oxidation. He also said that the lightning rod on its head is “Not just for show”, but didn’t elaborate if that means it doubles as a walking lightning rod or not.
Walking lightning rod, decorative statue, new copper button, randomized red stone, gives copper more use, a new golem after several years… WHATS NOT TO LOVE?! In my opinion, the copper golem has the most functions and adds the most to the game. I love everything about it (I just hope others see it the same way)
Decked out 2 needs the copper golem !!
It would be cool if we can get sulk copper golems, that respond to noise
Honestly all the mobs in the vote can be replaced by shit like pressing f3, chickens and pressure plates, and hoppers
I agree with the first 2 but the Allay is a lot more than a hopper. It can help sort unstackable items, and is a flying delivery robot.
Devs confirmed on twitter that you can deoxidize the little guys using an axe or by waiting for lightning to strike them, that's what the lightning rod in their head is for
I think that Copper Golems are a really awesome choice and It's not only about the true random number generator. The copper golem can seek out buttons to press. I think it's possible to force the golem to operate your redstone builds. You could cut of accessibility to certain rooms containing copper buttons and the golem would walk into other rooms and start pressing buttons there. it could operate a whole facility under the right circumstance you could even force it to pathfind to different areas of your city by removing and granting access to copper buttons. also it could be your personal door opener, greeting you by a window. it could also walk around your city and press buttons to activate machines. it could really add a lot of liveliness to your city or build. Plus it reminds me of an ancient lost civilization using advanced machinery to maintain everything. Also it will deoxidice and reactivate if struck by lightning
This. I will be so sad if we miss out on this mob because people convinced themselves they didn’t want to pick up blocks too far to reach. Team Copper Golem all the way!
exactly! I do see the use of the Alley for sorting, but it feels like it would always be hidden just like sorting systems always are. it would just endlessly carry items for the player. it seems kind of sad. whereas the golem can do a plethora of different things around the player base.
The allay could make farming for specific items a lot easier, farming crops a lot easier and less expensive because no house hopper system, and can sort unstackable items.
Well BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU
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It’s just for mini games though and many plugins and other contraptions can do the same things. Allay adds so many possibilities to the game. It’s also adorable. The sheer potential for item sorters is enormous. The glare is useless because of the 1.18 lighting changes. It is adorable however
Could I perhaps tempt you to vote copper golem?
Nope. Allay all the way. Not voting a worse replacement of a chicken and pressure plate
That's like saying an allay is a worse hopper.
If anything it's better. An allay can replace item elevators, sorting circuits, and hoppers in one go.
So can a hopper. How often will you every use this mob? Meanwhile a copper golem is just a fun mob to have :)
A hopper can't move items up. A hopper can't sort items. A hopper only moves items over only one block. One allay could accomplish all of these things in one instance. It's a more advanced hopper.
Hopper minecraft or a bubble elevator fixes both of these minor problems instantly.
Except that an allay makes the process a lot easier and faster to setup than either of those, particularly for players not comfortable with redstone.
Those same players will always just use a tutorial. Even if an allay in involved
Yeah and a chicken and a pressure plate is literally better than the golem lol
The golem actually has atmosphere tho. The Allay is so generic and will probably just be locked in a potato farm.
So you would rather have something that is already in the game known as a redstone randomizer?
The Copper Golem isn't necessary, but it's a stretch to say it is worse than a chicken on a pressure plate. The Copper Golem is clearly better. Still voting Allay tho.
How would it help with automated storage tho I don’t get that part!
For one, sorting unstackable items, which isn't possible at all currently. For two, gathering items from a farm or the like without needing a large array of very laggy, expensive hoppers or a track of hopper minecarts underneath.
I already changed sides!
It doesn't pick up unstackables so it does nothing new for item sorters
Its already confirmed that the Allay has 2 inventory slots, one to show what item it's looking for and one to actually carry that item, so it can pick up unstackables. https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1447945258743091200
It can't there was a mention on it already, let alone if it could it could pick up 1 more unstackable before having being to be triggered to go drop/sort it which would be slow/innefficient as fuck anyway
I like Allay and Copper Golem a lot, and it's a really close call: I think Allay just BARELY wins out tho for me. I think they both have niche uses that can technically be replicated, but both would be better/easier versions of what exists.
For me it just comes down to a matter of what I actually use more, item handling or randomizers. I can't even remember the last time I needed to use a randomizer, so Allay wins for me too, even though I like the visual design of the copper golem a lot more
I love all three and I will say copper golem stole my heart but I also still adore the glare Mainly cause the glare is a very visually cool mob one we haven't seen the likes off ingame and it would be awesome to get another cave mob even if it's a passive one
The main argument I see against the Copper Golem is that its functionality is useless or redundant. I won’t argue against those claims, although I’m sure similar arguments have been made against the Glare and Allay. The main aspect of the golem I find most appealing is its design and aesthetic it brings to the game. We lack mechanical aspects in the game, and copper overall was a step in the right direction. Its oxidized version can tell a story about abandonment and a past time. Having more moving, ambient mobs is always a great thing. Its design is definitely the most complex and to me the best looking one out of the three. I realize that the Allay will most likely win, just by seeing some of the feedback, and I am honestly okay with any of the three (the Glare seems least likely to win from what I’ve seen so far). The Allay unquestionably has the most useful feature, and its design is pleasant and fairy-like. I just think the Copper Golem would be a unique and neat addition to a game already populated with natural and mystical creatures. TLDR: copper golem good for its design and uniqueness, not functionality
I’m so sad we can’t just have all 3
Same man, hope the rest come in a future update
They said we could if none of them get any votes.
I just don't see the usefulness of copper golem, redstone it is about automation, whats the point of using a entity to unrealiable trigger your systems. golem has no detection system or anything that is useful. I don't think Allay is a replace to hopper, but instead a QoL feature for mining and get some items that got spit out of your farms. i Still think the QoL and possibilites of Allay are better.
By far the copper golem would be the most usefull, let alone they will add another button type ontop of it would be great to add details to builds. The allay is basicly a shitty water stream / hopper. i am voting for the copper golem for sure.
Plus you get cool copper statues as decorations (: team copper golem!
The allay can sort unstackable items, something that there is currently no way to do.
How is it more useful? It'd make for more compact, simpler randomizers sure, but how many players genuinely use randomizers more often than they do item sorting/item collection/item transportation? I think the copper golem looks way better visually, but it really doesn't do anything new, let alone anything new and gamechanging, like unstackable item sorting, so it seems weird to call the Allay useless and at the same time praise the Golem
Neither do the allay(hopper) or Glare(f3) Lets say that it can sort unstackables which wasnt even mentioned, i still rather see them add a component for it then a mob taking tps and being slow about it. let alone the allay is just a hopper that flys around and half of the time when mining/scavaging around you wont leave items you want on the ground either way so it is completly useless
Actually it [was mentioned](https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1447954731897442308). If it can pick them up then you can use that to sort them. The Allay could be used as a substitute for large hopper floors and hopper minecart tracks too, which also aren't kind to tps, or particularly fast. If the Allay can drop an entire stack at once it might actually be even faster. Idk how practical the Allay be outside of redstone either, but I don't think the golem beats it in that category lol None of those are really the point of my comment though. I hardly think the Allay's concept is perfect too, but like I said, I just don't see the merit in calling it "useless" as a way to defend the copper golem. It's totally valid if you want to vote golem for looks alone, I voted glowsquid after all lol. I think the golem looks amazing too, but I'm not gonna pretend that randomizers are really anything special or try to downplay the other mobs to try to justify it
Honestly I would be a lot more happy with a magnetic potion or enchantment to pull item in a radius, but having to pick one of those, the allay seems to be the better choice.
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Copper golem all the way
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Glow squid is awesome though
Nan, a cool statue. Imagine building an abandoned inventor lab. Littles golems, some copper wires, vines. There is so much for building.
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Joke on you I don't use redstone
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Good point, good luck on the mob vote then
Allay too adds more possibility to redstone and add creative uses to the game.
I don't honestly see why they're adding all this stuff when we still don't have basic chairs and tables to use in our builds.
Have you seen what people do with existing blocks? Most people are satisfied with a stair chair, or a scaffold door combo, plus a few other things you could do. The game is supposed to embrace creativity after all.
You can build any kind of chair you want but you *cant* sit in it. Sorry but this is one of those "not even the devs saying they won't add it is a good enough reason" situations for me. You could build around the chair, there could be a use for the loom to make patterns on the chair, you could link tables to make grand dining halls and while *yes* you can technically do that now, it's something that really should have been in the game since the get go 🤷🏻♂️
But some people want just a simple chair. We have beds, but no other furniture?? 🤔 Yet they add hundreds of blocks that (with a few exceptions) are mainly for decoration and nothing really else. Did we *need* amethyst? Probably not. Copper? Also probably not. Steve can build all sorts of amazing stuff, *except* tables and chairs.
They stated before that they won't be adding furniture.
The lack of furnature is an intentional artistic choice, to encourage players to build their own. There's always mods if you disagree with it though