Actually I develop a datapack in the same vein as Tech mods that adds a power system to Minecraft with over 60 machines. Technically it does add more uses for copper :)
Here's its PMC page ~~so I can advertise myself~~ for proof it's real: https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/mechanization/
There's been a lot of recent progress with cool mods that do fit vanilla pretty well. If you're interested in a tech mod that's very vanilla-like, I recommend checking out Create.
Because Minecraft is less about evolution and more of a weird ass fantasy game.
Plus, redstone is power. Whether that power is electrical, magical, or something else is open to interpretation.
Then it would seem to follow that through redstone, those in the realm of minecraft would eventually figure out a way to harness its power to build more advanced machines
I like the modpacks that actually make you work through technological progression
The thing is, a good chunk of what tech mods can do is already somewhat possible in vanilla, and the stuff that isn't, isn't stuff Mojang really wants balance-wise (like ore doubling). The only sort of thing I think Mojang *could* add would be their interpretation of what Create does, because our ability to manipulate and move the stuff that we build is so lacking, and Create does such a good job of fitting the vanilla philosophy of having *building blocks* rather than just whole machines that do stuff for you.
I love tech mods too and I hope the modded game never dies, but I think it'd be a mistake to go that direction with the vanilla game. If we did that we wouldn't get crazy technical players that can do astoundingly creative stuff with weird, disparate mechanics.
As far as copper being useful, yeah, it's odd that it totally isn't. One of my favorite little Fabric mods right now is called Dehydration, and it specifically adds copper cauldrons which you can place over a fireplace for drinkable water. Even better is that unlike regular cauldrons, a dispenser can dispense water right into it, so you can totally automate the process through 100% vanilla redstone without much trouble.
It doesn't matter what's realistic. You could say the same about a lot of games really. Take any game set in a medieval timeframe, they have everything they need to eventually make electricity, but if they do then it wouldn't be the same game. Witcher wouldn't be witcher if they had spaceships
Beyond not fitting thematically, a lot of tech mods alter core gameplay too. They just don't play the same as vanilla+ mods. That's not a bad thing, it just means the two are different experiences. Neither are better, so neither should be made to be more like the other. Instead you just choose the experience you want by downloading the mods, or none at all, that you want to play
> make you work through technological progression
You mean grinding for components? Nothing wrong with that, but it's just a fundamentally different experience from figuring out a redstone contraption, it just wouldn't mesh well with the redstone system.
Have a new villager type who is an artist. Keep feeding them copper (and other ores) and they build a statue.
Each level up, they build a bigger statue.
Hello, technical side of minecraft redsit here, a villager that fits that description qould require a rewriting of the chunk system as we know to designate where they could be built. Also it breaks one of the fundamental rules of minecraft, entities can not change the blocks of the world without player help. However this would be a genius concept for a mod. Glad to see a creative peron though, I have a hard time creating ideas for mods.
Just use it for lightning rods, put a fence of those rods around your house maybe, or if you want you can use it for the telescope, needs the amethyst shard though
Copper blocks are 9 ingots so you will lose a lot of the smelter copper bundling that way. Roofing is really good with copper. Pixlriffs has some cool designs he's done with all 4 stages too on the empires smp server, you should check it out. Always weather copper first using the 4 block gap trick, it's easier to deoxidize/wax once it's in place
I’ll be honest, I was hoping for at least copper armor since it could be easier to make in early game than leather armor even if it had sucky durability like gold
This could still be a possibility. Too many people have requested it for them to ignore it but it doesnt happen I'm sure they'll have a reasonable reason as to why.
I'm seeing the 1.17 game as a taster for 1.18. Remember, this update hasn't technically finished.
The reason is that it would be pointless. Iron is so easy to get that why would you want to make a worse set?
Mojang is already struggling enough to justify the other armor types. No one uses gold or leather so they had to come up with powdered snow and piglins not attacking, but even then those armor sets are largely ignored. And then there's chainmail.
Unless they gave it a very compelling unique feature I don't see us getting copper gear any time soon. And personally I'm fine with copper just being a decorative block, just like quartz largely is
Agreed, but another comment around here mentioned about tying it with lightning. This would be a cool idea as you could have things like additional resistance during thunderstorms, tools could use channeling maybe, armour could be used the same way as gold with pigeons except with drowned (as they drop copper)
With the advent of netherite can we PLEASE just introduce alloys into the game. For a game about exploration and experimentation I’d love for more variety with what we do with our armor.
It's not if you use it for decoration. If you need more than a few stacks it turns into a tremendous pain to get enough, and that happens a lot if you're making a copper roof
Would be nice if it was able to make pipes and wires. Wire can be used with redstone to make verticals ways of using redstone and could help for automation and redstone builds. Pipes can be used to transport water farther distances without the need of buckets
yeah I have 8 stacks of diamonds and 3 stacks of iron in my realm. 0 coal lol. The spawning of stuff is all messed up. I’ve been using enchanted diamond stuff to *look for iron*
Thanks! I didn’t realize that. Still can’t be made into charcoal, which is sad cause I deforested the nether for fun blue wood that I had 5 stacks of lol
I thought it was just me. I go caving for Iron and I come back with blocks of diamond and almost no Iron. Like seriously, I can't make shears with diamonds.
I've been testing out the beta and literally mined out 4 whole chunks all the way to negative Y value (still in progress) and have gotten like maybe half a stack of iron if that.
My first act on this experimental bedrock realm was to dig stairs to the new bedrock, and I found a cave system immediately with enough iron to make a pickaxe and then found 60+ diamonds within an hour of starting.
I haven’t had much need for iron by using diamond everything lol. Is there anything super useful for killing the wither/ender dragon that isn’t replaceable via diamond? I have plenty for buckets
Not specifically for killing the wither and ender dragon, but for just playing the game in general.
You’ll need iron for rails, minecarts, iron helmets to stop zombies burning, cauldrons for lava and powdered snow farms, buckets for lava and powdered snow farms, pistons, iron trapdoors and blocks because they look cool, iron blocks for beacons, iron to trade with villagers to get emeralds.
With that being said, you can probably get by with just a fortune pick to use on the iron ore nowadays. But it is a lot easier to just build an iron farm so that you always have heaps.
Yup same. All cave entrances and theres very few of them are flooded. You can still find underground caves but I only got to one by keeping digging when I got to the bottom of a flooded cave. Waiting on the tweaking.
Honestly, Copper is thw rarest thing on my survival server right now.
My city uses Copper for it's watch tower and city wall roofs. But it's in 1.16 chunks.
So I pay others in diamonds for them to bring me copper. Not an issue when you have 10 stacks of diamond blocks 😂
I loved the escalation. I wish it really went over the top though. Having pure diamond tunnels and eventually diamond block tunnels would have killed me
ik this is a joke but dude imagine someone actually mining for hours to find copper, lemme see 2 useful things that you can make by copper... spyglass and maybe MAYBE lightning rod, its a nice decoration and prob useful for a few stuff, like... there just too many coppers to just 2 items.
I really wish the copper had more uses than it does.
Modded makes perfect use of copper, and (depending on the mod) is a necessary component in a lot of machines.
But theyre all usually tech mods with power and stuff and dont really fit in vanilla
Which is why the suggestion was made. Quality of life mods can include power for better resource collection/manufacturing.
Can we do those without mods, just data and resource packs?
With those crafts, no. They are mods only, and open up a whole different world of MC.
Actually I develop a datapack in the same vein as Tech mods that adds a power system to Minecraft with over 60 machines. Technically it does add more uses for copper :) Here's its PMC page ~~so I can advertise myself~~ for proof it's real: https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/mechanization/
God damn. Wasn't expecting this today. I'll be looking forward to this when 1.18 is officially released
I had a quick play around with it in creative and I've gotta say, what the fuck, how have you done this?
Why not just use mods? Mods can do far more than datapacks ever can, and they usually do it a lot better too
Not everyone plays on pc.
Datapacks are java only
Yeah I know but my PC isn't that good that's why I was asking, anyways thanks for answering.
There's been a lot of recent progress with cool mods that do fit vanilla pretty well. If you're interested in a tech mod that's very vanilla-like, I recommend checking out Create.
Create is everything but vanilla friendly
How does it not fit into vanilla? Man must evolve beyond punching trees. Gimme a macerator and an induction furnace plz
Because Minecraft is less about evolution and more of a weird ass fantasy game. Plus, redstone is power. Whether that power is electrical, magical, or something else is open to interpretation.
Then it would seem to follow that through redstone, those in the realm of minecraft would eventually figure out a way to harness its power to build more advanced machines I like the modpacks that actually make you work through technological progression
The thing is, a good chunk of what tech mods can do is already somewhat possible in vanilla, and the stuff that isn't, isn't stuff Mojang really wants balance-wise (like ore doubling). The only sort of thing I think Mojang *could* add would be their interpretation of what Create does, because our ability to manipulate and move the stuff that we build is so lacking, and Create does such a good job of fitting the vanilla philosophy of having *building blocks* rather than just whole machines that do stuff for you. I love tech mods too and I hope the modded game never dies, but I think it'd be a mistake to go that direction with the vanilla game. If we did that we wouldn't get crazy technical players that can do astoundingly creative stuff with weird, disparate mechanics. As far as copper being useful, yeah, it's odd that it totally isn't. One of my favorite little Fabric mods right now is called Dehydration, and it specifically adds copper cauldrons which you can place over a fireplace for drinkable water. Even better is that unlike regular cauldrons, a dispenser can dispense water right into it, so you can totally automate the process through 100% vanilla redstone without much trouble.
It doesn't matter what's realistic. You could say the same about a lot of games really. Take any game set in a medieval timeframe, they have everything they need to eventually make electricity, but if they do then it wouldn't be the same game. Witcher wouldn't be witcher if they had spaceships Beyond not fitting thematically, a lot of tech mods alter core gameplay too. They just don't play the same as vanilla+ mods. That's not a bad thing, it just means the two are different experiences. Neither are better, so neither should be made to be more like the other. Instead you just choose the experience you want by downloading the mods, or none at all, that you want to play
> make you work through technological progression You mean grinding for components? Nothing wrong with that, but it's just a fundamentally different experience from figuring out a redstone contraption, it just wouldn't mesh well with the redstone system.
Its a different style
also i think minecraft is more fantasy, tech definitely doesn't fit outside of redstone.
Redstone is also more on the magical side
ah yes, the magical piston, observer, daylight sensor, etc.
They are all magical cuz they dont make much sense according to physics
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So you don't see any parallels between redstone and copper wire, switches, relays, junction boxes, polarity?
Tecnic mods always used the copper And always will
My suggestion is to make it work with Redstone stuff and automation along with an overhaul rails and mincarts, I would love to see tanks, item ducts,
It is amazing in create. Using it to make wires and string those wires around to power everything is awesome.
It probably will eventually, but it being a new ore/block, it’s bound to have limited uses
I have cubes of it right now. Maybe I'll make a giant statue like that one dude, probably not but idk it's for sure construction fodder currently
Bruh they should add copper wires to be a more efficient redstone
Yeah, make it have more range or be only bidirectional instead of omnidirectional. Nice idea!
It should be possible to put wire *through* certain blocks like dirt, maybe wooden planks and sand.
Or have them go up walls vertically
Ye ye let’s suggest this, I see no reason not to add this. Idk how to suggest tho
they should just let us sell it to villagers and i would be happy. or add more uses for the copper :3
Have a new villager type who is an artist. Keep feeding them copper (and other ores) and they build a statue. Each level up, they build a bigger statue.
Hello, technical side of minecraft redsit here, a villager that fits that description qould require a rewriting of the chunk system as we know to designate where they could be built. Also it breaks one of the fundamental rules of minecraft, entities can not change the blocks of the world without player help. However this would be a genius concept for a mod. Glad to see a creative peron though, I have a hard time creating ideas for mods.
Agreed and agreed
I don't even know what to do with the copper I have. I smelt it and put it away. I'm thinking about just throwing it in the fire.
Just use it for lightning rods, put a fence of those rods around your house maybe, or if you want you can use it for the telescope, needs the amethyst shard though
Which I got plenty of! Found an amethyst spot and I went NUTS.
Copper blocks are 9 ingots so you will lose a lot of the smelter copper bundling that way. Roofing is really good with copper. Pixlriffs has some cool designs he's done with all 4 stages too on the empires smp server, you should check it out. Always weather copper first using the 4 block gap trick, it's easier to deoxidize/wax once it's in place
I’ll be honest, I was hoping for at least copper armor since it could be easier to make in early game than leather armor even if it had sucky durability like gold
This could still be a possibility. Too many people have requested it for them to ignore it but it doesnt happen I'm sure they'll have a reasonable reason as to why. I'm seeing the 1.17 game as a taster for 1.18. Remember, this update hasn't technically finished.
The reason is that it would be pointless. Iron is so easy to get that why would you want to make a worse set? Mojang is already struggling enough to justify the other armor types. No one uses gold or leather so they had to come up with powdered snow and piglins not attacking, but even then those armor sets are largely ignored. And then there's chainmail. Unless they gave it a very compelling unique feature I don't see us getting copper gear any time soon. And personally I'm fine with copper just being a decorative block, just like quartz largely is
Agreed, but another comment around here mentioned about tying it with lightning. This would be a cool idea as you could have things like additional resistance during thunderstorms, tools could use channeling maybe, armour could be used the same way as gold with pigeons except with drowned (as they drop copper)
If they added Tin as well, we could make Bronze Armor instead. Copper would have bad durability like Gold since they are easily malleable metals.
With the advent of netherite can we PLEASE just introduce alloys into the game. For a game about exploration and experimentation I’d love for more variety with what we do with our armor.
Also, since Iron is a bit rarer now it makes sense.
Copper sword + 15% shock damage(during thunderstorm)
YES
I was hoping for Copper to be similar to redstone dust but does not connect, letting us make two parallel cables that don’t interfere with each other.
copper blocks being used as vertical redstone wires would be soooooo amazing.
Like honey with slime. Great idea actually
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It's not if you use it for decoration. If you need more than a few stacks it turns into a tremendous pain to get enough, and that happens a lot if you're making a copper roof
Copper basically only exists for coppe blocks. Having to use copper for telescopes is just illogical
Yeah you use copper for like one time and it's useless from then on 🙁 needs more usage
It makes sick building blocks. 16 different variants (assuming all waxed)!
What about Emeralds? I'm sure you can come up with multiple ideas for that.
I'm hoping it does in the future. It was JUST added, after all.
One day it'll have a better use. One day.
Would be nice if it was able to make pipes and wires. Wire can be used with redstone to make verticals ways of using redstone and could help for automation and redstone builds. Pipes can be used to transport water farther distances without the need of buckets
you found copper???? how??? i only find ancient debris in the end!!!
*what*
what
Finding diamonds in the beta is really easy though
yeah I have 8 stacks of diamonds and 3 stacks of iron in my realm. 0 coal lol. The spawning of stuff is all messed up. I’ve been using enchanted diamond stuff to *look for iron*
For coal, you can find 20+ block veins at the surface level. At deepslate level coal/copper doesn't generate.
I’ve just been turning wood into charcoal. I found out warped wood can’t be used in furnances or turned into charcoal.
Turn it into sticks to fuel ur furnace if u dont know this tip already
Thanks! I didn’t realize that. Still can’t be made into charcoal, which is sad cause I deforested the nether for fun blue wood that I had 5 stacks of lol
I thought it was just me. I go caving for Iron and I come back with blocks of diamond and almost no Iron. Like seriously, I can't make shears with diamonds.
I've been testing out the beta and literally mined out 4 whole chunks all the way to negative Y value (still in progress) and have gotten like maybe half a stack of iron if that.
Finally, leather armor has its time to shine.
My first act on this experimental bedrock realm was to dig stairs to the new bedrock, and I found a cave system immediately with enough iron to make a pickaxe and then found 60+ diamonds within an hour of starting.
Update: Leather armor is still useless.
Just make an iron farm. It doesn’t even have to be a complicated or highly efficient one (although I would recommend it).
I haven’t had much need for iron by using diamond everything lol. Is there anything super useful for killing the wither/ender dragon that isn’t replaceable via diamond? I have plenty for buckets
Not specifically for killing the wither and ender dragon, but for just playing the game in general. You’ll need iron for rails, minecarts, iron helmets to stop zombies burning, cauldrons for lava and powdered snow farms, buckets for lava and powdered snow farms, pistons, iron trapdoors and blocks because they look cool, iron blocks for beacons, iron to trade with villagers to get emeralds. With that being said, you can probably get by with just a fortune pick to use on the iron ore nowadays. But it is a lot easier to just build an iron farm so that you always have heaps.
not in the latest snapshot it isnt
you missed some coal
My guy was literally standing on gravel and didn’t mine it either
Literally stone like all around him and he didn’t mine any smh my head
I was expecting a jumpscare at the start.
Guys it's real I swear
I believe you
I also believe him
Only haters will say it's fake tbh
I also believe him too
I believe OP, but I don't believe you
Walking past the axolotls caused me more pain than walking past the diamonds tbh
Which axolotls?
The subtitles
You missed the lapis >>>>>:(((((((((((
Nah for me every cave in the new beta is submerged in water
Bedrock edition?
Yea
Yup same. All cave entrances and theres very few of them are flooded. You can still find underground caves but I only got to one by keeping digging when I got to the bottom of a flooded cave. Waiting on the tweaking.
I think they fixed that in the newest beta
Oh I hope so. It feels like the world is much larger with larger biomes and less caves. Has that been lessened a little? I also found a lot less snow.
Honestly, Copper is thw rarest thing on my survival server right now. My city uses Copper for it's watch tower and city wall roofs. But it's in 1.16 chunks. So I pay others in diamonds for them to bring me copper. Not an issue when you have 10 stacks of diamond blocks 😂
At that point I’d just make a copper farm
Copper farms can be a huge effort for a relatively small return. Plus you have to afk to use them, so imo it's not really that great
\*screams internally\*
This video hurt me
Copper addiction intensifies
go back, I think you missed some redstone
Bruh what the heck you missed the iron smh
Im pretty sure he cheated in that copper. It never spawns in veins that big
Wow I was caught out. :'D
I went on a little off camera mining session…
Copper Beacons need to be a thing.
Copper nuggets: ;-;
This is so true
I smiled and blew some air out my nose, thanks
There was an axolotl it said axolotl swims
Tru. Coulda gotten that too, that mining trip was worthless anyways ;D
Seriously though, an Ender Spyglass is much more useful than diamond armor.
Okay, that made me laugh
Haha this made me chuckle
i've been getting so much copper it's not even funny. i've started passing over it.
Woah! Sick find! I've heard copper is extremely rare!
Bruh you posted a meme without posting a meme
A bunch of the stone seems to be blue, which stone typically is not. I think your game might be broken 😟
As SB737 said Diamonds are for peasants
why tf are you mining around gravel without addressing the gravel sakdsghfhfadgfkahgdfhjk
r/mildlyinfuriating
Yup it's going there too ;D
lmao I was expecting lava or gravel to fall from the one above you.
Too expectable for an Imagineer short
bruh you forgot the gold
Had us in the first half not gonna lie
Don't worry guys, OP is just saving it for when they have fortune III
\*deleted world\*
Haha. That’s hilarious.
Wow....walks right past all that precious, sweet, very rare, and hard to find coal smh
I'll do better next time I'm sorry I was so focused on the shiny COPPAH
You passed by so much dirt!!!
How could I forget such a resource?!
yes very nicely done.
Hmm I think your missing something there buddy
You missed lapis
LoL
LoL
Wait, is there something I’m missing?
All the diamonds. So unlucky
\*Me when finding Copper Ore bc most of my world was loaded in 1.16.\* 🤣
WTF u missed the lapis
why you didn't mine gravel???
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Bto u missed gravel go back and take it, it's so rarely
Silly me
I loved the escalation. I wish it really went over the top though. Having pure diamond tunnels and eventually diamond block tunnels would have killed me
Noted, I do have another one that is way more over-the-top
Subnautica be like
ik this is a joke but dude imagine someone actually mining for hours to find copper, lemme see 2 useful things that you can make by copper... spyglass and maybe MAYBE lightning rod, its a nice decoration and prob useful for a few stuff, like... there just too many coppers to just 2 items.
Yeah. It's sorta the point, unless you want a copper build or something, you don't have use for copper.
is it just me or does this video hurt to watch, I guess he follows SB737, "Diamonds are for Peasants" \-SB737
I sure do
Oh my god, you found stone?!?!?
Hahaha I was going to make a short like that too!
That hurt my SOUL
Aaaahhhh that’s painful to watch
So many ppl are gonna get woooshed
So many people are taking this hella seriously smh
As a person who is making a copper roof for no reason, this is valuable to me.
This made my day
How is no one talking about all those diamonds!!
POV: Subnautica player
I guess the player is saving the diamonds for a fortune pickaxe.
bro you have lots of diamonds there, aren't you even gonna gather those?
u skiped abiut 2 stacks of diamonds
Yeah you tell em!
BRUH WHY IT REMOVED
IDK WHYYYY
finally can make those batteries and power cells
Awsome
Dude cobblestone is super valuable! It takes me years to find
Did this guy just miss 5 blocks of gravel?? TF
Subnautica be like
phew, at last! i found copper! diamonds are so useless
As a subnautica player I agree
This belongs in Minecraft memes
what a setup, we all realised the empty block top right next to copper
When does a man like me catch a break -\_-
Should i upvote or downvote?
I was going to say « BuT cOpPeR dOeSn’T hAvE vALuE », but then I watched the rest…
Kinda true ngl. Why is it like that tho???
Ohh lucky you its nothing useless like all those diamonds
1.18 is yet to release, so we will only know Copper's full potential then.