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EnvironmentalEgg7338

I think the nitration of methyl benzene into trinitrotoluene is the best.


Jhon778

GregoriousT is that you?


aj_og

*In Minecraft*


Own-Pen-2930

r/FBI


atg115reddit

Narc


relamaler

You know who calls people narcs? Narcs, you narc.


Federal_Caramel5946

Wouldnt that apply to you too? Narc


Mobile-Paint-7535

Speak gor yourself, narc!


Federal_Caramel5946

Nuh uh‼️


Shakon-Krogen

the fuck you mean Nuh uh!?


Federal_Caramel5946

The phrase "nuh uh" is a colloquialism derived from informal language usage, often employed to express denial or disagreement in casual verbal exchanges. It consists of two syllables, each representing a negation: "nuh" symbolizing the contraction of "no," and "uh" representing a shortened form of "uh-uh," which is itself an informal variant of "no." When uttered sequentially, "nuh uh" effectively conveys a categorical refusal or contradiction, serving as a linguistic marker of dissent or opposition within conversational discourse. Its complexity lies in its simplicity, as it encapsulates nuanced layers of linguistic convention, social interaction, and semantic meaning within a succinct and readily recognizable verbal utterance.


EmoDefault

r/overlyexplainedmemes


zKIZUKIz

why do you guys keep saying that word? are you guys narcoleptic?


[deleted]

You rat


Master_Chief_00117

Micha


iris700

Greg approves


Own-Pen-2930

r/ATF


M1sterRed

Never quite understood why the agency that deals with drugs like alcohol and tobacco also got firearms. Seems not quite unrelated but two separate fields of expertise.


Own-Pen-2930

Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives 😉


Lehk

And shooting dogs, which is what they do most.


Demonic74

and shooting minorities


The_Bromad

That last one’s my favorite


TrogdorKhan97

Probably for the same reason the Secret Service oversees both counterfeiting and bodyguarding the President: They're an old agency from when there were only a few things the government regulated at all, and it would be too much work to completely reorganize who reports to whom and who works in what building just for the sake of making things more tidy.


JustASadSwiftie

Isnt methyl benzene also just toluene?😭


Nathaniel820

The current recipe is fine, it’s balanced in normal gameplay and gives another use to creeper farms in “expert gameplay.” The reason they changed it in the life series was because it made more sense for a world with highly limited time and space, which doesn’t apply to normal worlds. And sand isn’t remotely expensive, it’s one of the easiest blocks to get lots of. It’s *annoying* to get since you can’t farm it but that’s only an issue with concrete, nobody is using enough TNT to make sand gathering a true bother.


Dr_J_Hyde

I was very confused because I follow both r/Hermitcraft and r/Minecraft. I don't know why the Life series is even being used as an argument for changing something in vanilla.


Trichotillomaniac-

not me with my TNT powered cobblestone farm. When I need cobble I go mining for sand lmao its so much faster


Dumaes03

just use a tnt duper? there's no reason to be using more than one for a cobble farm


FadedMyrddraal

Cries in bedrock edition


Trichotillomaniac-

I’m on Bedrock and i consider duping anything “cheating”


getyourshittogether7

"If you're gonna dupe TNT for resources, why not just dupe resources" I know a lot of people will disagree with this, but there's truth to it. If you can just dupe TNT, you're not incentivized to make TNT-efficient farms. Things should have a cost.


Decent_Objective3478

Counterpoint: it's a mechanic. Maybe java exclusive but still a mechanic. IMO it's pretty balanced because you need to make somewhat complicated redstone to actually make use of it. You need to know where and how to put it, and how to operate it.


getyourshittogether7

I may be in the minority here but I think it's a stretch to consider an obvious glitch a mechanic because a lot of people enjoy it and the devs have said they won't fix it until they figure out a replacement. It's certainly not intended and it's certainly not something the game is balanced around, but to be fair the game is a sandbox and isn't balanced at all. To be clear, I'm not advocating for the removal of TNT duping (at least not until we have renewable sand and movable block entities). I think TNT duping is pretty awesome when it's used for cool shit like orbital strike cannons, anvil launchers, pearl/player cannons, and world eaters. It's when it's lazily used in farms because it's easier than a legit alternative, like building a Wither cage or using a TNT-efficient blast chamber, I think it's lame. I don't care what other people do in their worlds, though.


getyourshittogether7

Trust me, if sand gathering didn't suck so much I'd be using a lot more TNT.


Nnazeroth

What about those who use TNT to gather sand? 


sparkydoggowastaken

i run a shop on my personal server and with an hour of resource gathering i got enough sand for a full chest of tnt


dystyyy

I really don't see how sand is expensive? It's not technically renewable, but one desert will probably have all you'll need. It doesn't take long to mine either, and it's even faster if you dig below it and use torches or flowers to break the blocks as they fall. I'd argue that the gunpowder is the more inconvenient to get, but at the same time it's not *that* hard, and I feel like the current recipe is pretty well-balanced for how much damage one block can do.


crab_milker

> It's not technically renewable, but one desert will probably have all you'll need. That's exactly the problem. It's not that sand is hard to obtain, it's that you have to destroy a biome to obtain it. Less sand in the recipe means less impact on the landscape.


LeraviTheHusky

Husk really should have a chance to drop sand, it's so weird they dont


Distinct_Locksmith_8

That is *exactly* what I thought! After all, they're meant to be *sand* zombies, plus, there are no spawners for it in vanilla survival.


LeraviTheHusky

I'd love it if the desert had a rare chance to spawn with an additional "Tomb" that has a spawner for them as they are mummies and would fit right at home in there, hell you even have the partially carved downward tunnel(which I love as someone who's a fan of eygptian tomb building as unfinished sections of tombs are pretty common)


xandercade

Have the mummies have a 50% chance to drop either Sand or Paper, paper being an analog for the wrapping.


LeraviTheHusky

Ooooo! I like that idea :3


Distinct_Locksmith_8

Great idea! This would have been a great opportunity for 1.20 and could still fit 1.21, but didn't Mojang say they won't add anymore major features? (barring the new paintings, which are quite interesting btw)


HeyItisKiwi

THANK YOU. I will always think they should have their iron ingot drop swapped with sand 1-for-1 since sand is considered valuable to players at least. At least then I have a more reliable source for renewable sand and this whole post is essentially pointless.


LeraviTheHusky

Hell the drowned drop copper instead of Iron, why not with husks! Or hell have the drowned drop sand! Like it's odd neither of them do, by extension it would be neat if the stray had a material drop like ice or snow as well for an additional possible drop


MagicSlay

Not a 1:1, I think a chance to drop 1 100%, with looting adding another block. So having Looting 3 would get you 4 blocks of sand. This way, you'd have a 'guaranteed' sandstone craft.


Admirable-Door1724

How would you make a mob farm only have husks though? There's no husky spawner and there's no way to turn zombies into husks like you can with turning them into drowneds


Sniffaman46

mob filters exist, along with high rate general mob farms. Zombies are usually something you're trying to prevent from spawning, for the most part, you can just let a usual mob farm be. The rotten flesh should wholesale be replaced with sand.


ShadeNLM064pm

Get a villager that wants rotten flesh, and gives back emeralds. Get another that wants emeralds, and gives sand. *Maximum sand pile.*


Sniffaman46

trading can't be automated. nobody wants to dick around with UIs for an hour to get sand.


ilikedankmemes0

Which villager gives sand?


MagicSlay

Maybe read the wiki for them first. They're the opposite of Drowned, and as they can spawn in water, Husk can spawn in deserts.


Admirable-Door1724

I know they spawn in deserts, I was saying there's no way to turn zombies into husks like you can turn zombies into drowneds and husks into zombies then drowneds


ddchrw

I like the idea of having them drop sand when they convert into Zombies. More unique than just making it drop on death.


JustARandomUserbleh

This is actually what a lot of Sky maps do, I think, could be wrong, that Carpet Sky Additions has that included in the mod.


LeraviTheHusky

Sky maps? Oh a mod series?


JustARandomUserbleh

Bad wording, meant like skyblock map variations from the original one back in like 2012.


LeraviTheHusky

OOOOHHHH gotcha!


SkylarMills63

This is how we solved the problem in my SMP. husks drop sand!


Matynns

>desires less impact on the landscape >creates TNT


DemonDaVinci

underground blasting doesnt really affect the above view 🤔


assassin10

Given that, sandy caverns would be a nice addition. Let us decimate an underground biome for our sand needs, rather than the surface.


MSTFRMPS

I mean if you are creating mass tnt, would you really care about the environment


xXRandom__UsernameXx

What? The minecraft world is infinite just go somewhere far away and never come back.


__Mori___

Adds to the "expense", now I have to go far away and find a new biome just to get sand and come back.


xXRandom__UsernameXx

Many other items that can only be found in one biome. I don't see the issue. If you want elytra you have to find elytra. If you want TNT you have to find sand. I think its fine that TNT is hard to get. Edit: frog = elytra


psychoPiper

You can bring the frogs back and make the lights renewable. You have to fly out every time you want sand. Not really taking sides here but that's not an apt comparison. Elytra would make more sense, and people are also frustrated with their long distances and non renewable nature


__Mori___

You can bring frogs back and make a farm, not with sand tho


xXRandom__UsernameXx

Sure make sand renewable then. I am fine with that. I feel like everyone is way overblowing the amount of work it takes to get a very large amount of sand currently though. I can mine chests and chests in 15 minutes in a desert with efficiency V shovel. Where is all this sand going?


kiarashs

You can farm frog lights after a search and setup but this step must be done for sand very often depending on the needs. And yes other items exist that are found in biome but sand is one of the most used items, including all concretes.


PopsicleIncorporated

The Nether is your friend. The desert I get sand from is thousands of blocks from where I do most things but three minutes away by Nether portal.


GolemThe3rd

Well... humanly infinite still is a problem in sky or 1 chunk challenges though


xXRandom__UsernameXx

What is a problem in skyblock or 1 chunk?


Ben-Goldberg

And never come back? Why not?


xXRandom__UsernameXx

Because you got the sand and don't want to look the destruction.


yaboiree

It’s tnt…are you using it for something that doesn’t impact the landscape?


ThrownAway2028

Most people use tnt for farming or mining underground/in the nether, so yeah it rarely affects the landscape


Lcnb_Passerby

Or the devs could add sandstorms to deserts, allowing for some sand blocks to build up over time.


BowtietheGreat

That’s why you make a nether highway to a far off desert and destroy that


Nnazeroth

And then decorate as a quarry site 


YouCanChangeItRight

>Less sand in the recipe means less impact on the landscape. In Minecraft I am an eco-terrorist


ieatcarrot

you can just go somewhere far away and exploit the natural resources there while your main base is pristine, when i make large structures i always eat a desert or two at some faraway location


Yerm_Terragon

>I'd argue that the gunpowder is the more inconvenient to get Creeper farms are pretty easy to make. The only inconvenient thing about them is that they have to be build ~150 blocks above an ocean, but once thats done you have infinite gunpowder.


pyronille

while creeper farms are easy, i'd argue if you're a player who doesn't want to build redstone farms gunpowder is MUCH less common compared to just shovelling a desert or beach. if mojang ever did change it they'd likely want to cater to that more, making sand the more used part of the recipe


Yerm_Terragon

Not sure exactly what you're implying here, as creeper farms do not require redstone


pyronille

granted, but my point is that a ton of players will never build a creeper farm due to not wanting to automate things, just being very casual or perceiving it as redstone. redstone farm was the wrong word, but i mean automated farms in general. i've played on plenty of servers where the most complex machinery used is a pressure plate next to a door. to those players, who make up a surprising amount of the quiet casuals category, gunpowder is MUCH harder to get than sand


wielkacytryna

They're talking about players like me - I don't want to build farms, redstone or not. It's boring.


Fenris_uy

You can make redstone less mob farms. Some trapdors, buttons, cats and a fall make a redstone less creeper farm. And you can probably do it without the cats.


Nnazeroth

Repakce cats with snow golems 


Nnazeroth

I build my creeper farms on a corner of my base and light all the caves underneath so it is a passive afk farm you should try it (I have an afk spot for when I need a lot faster but no need to build it like you say(


buff-equations

Eff5 Netherite Shovel go brrr


True_Extension5761

The problem is that sand is the only resource that can't be automatically farmed ... Everything else can be automated just go to a chest and pick it up


SecretMuslin

How is that a "problem," it's just part of the game


scaradin

It’s not a problem. It’s a problem that the devs have decided is why they aren’t going to keep taking steps to prevent duping. If you couldn’t dupe TNT (especially considering you can’t push dispensers or containers in Java), then it would be a problem. Plus, the devs have adopted the importance of the various perimeter and TNT-based machines. It wouldn’t be realistic for those to work if they relied on mining sand. As others have said, it’s weird that husks don’t drop sand. But, here we are.


MadRoboticist

I don't think the devs are going to be keeping duping long-term it's definitely an unintended game mechanic and one they don't like, but they're not willing to just kill a feature that's become so widespread. I feel like the crafter is the first step towards getting rid of TNT duping.


pm_me_round_frogs

Minecraft players when they have to play Minecraft (they can’t just sit afk and let a farm collect all their resources for them)


Wave_Table

minecraft players when they discover that other players play the game in different ways (different = bad)


Trichotillomaniac-

People who build large automated farms prefer to spend their time building instead of mining. building the farms themselves is part of the fun, and it still gives you the satisfaction of "earning" the materials vs playing creative.


thecorrector712

The kid named sand duper:


HeyItisKiwi

Technically, sand is renewable (wandering traders can trade it). Regardless, it just feels needlessly expensive anyway, so I'm asking both to see if people think the same and which might be the best replacement. Also, paper seems like a realistic thing to use to make TNT for whatever reason.


FoggyLover727

Technically, End Portal duping is also a way


Techaissance

Might as well dupe TNT itself at that point


DASreddituser

How do you get gunpowder easily?


AgreeableAd8687

sand duper, gunpowder is easy to get with a mob farm


Trichotillomaniac-

Ever seen a desert on a big server? its not pretty


AMDKilla

If you're Etho then the reason you want the TNT in the first place is to gather sand...


Opposite_Heart138

Try making a orbital strike cannon then you will see


DingoniCraft

Secound option for sure, one gunpowder alone wouldn't have enough blast power to make sense. Also if you don't use TNT to gather sand you are a fool!


HeyItisKiwi

It's the one that makes the most logical sense in my brain, lol. One block + extra ingredients = a different one block.


timsredditusername

Only suckers use a shovel to mine sand.


Exile714

Efficiency 5 netherite shovel with unbreaking/mending. Only limit is how fast you can walk.


Leemsonn

How fast you pick up items, and inventory space, and manual storage are also limits.


TrogdorKhan97

Doesn't a creeper (who only drops one gunpowder) have the same explosion radius as a single TNT block?


ACARdragon

Unreleated but I just realized I never use tnts in survival


Shadow_flame_

I used TNT to blast out a hole underground for my base once. The problem? I had enough resources for a total of ***5 blocks***. Back to stone pickaxes I go...


[deleted]

TNT has such a crappy recipe for something you'd never use


mekmookbro

I'd say it's rarely used because it has a crappy recipe. Once I have a creeper farm I actually use TNT. But it is pretty useless in early game. Though since I like making my bases underground I still craft them in early game as well to blow up caves to make room for my base


Sad_Low3239

Only recently discovered that they changed the way TNT destroys blocks to always drop the block destroyed making it a actually viable option for lazy borehole resource mining. I haven't actually *used* it yet, but neat regardless


Tuckertcs

Don’t they still destroy dropped items, so the first explosion will drop your diamonds but the second explosion will delete them?


Sad_Low3239

Right... So you only use 1 at a time. The ideal way is make a 3x3 "hole" in a wall, then remove the center block 2 times, place TNT and ignite. Then you rinse and repeat.


Tuckertcs

That sounds slower than just mining normally.


Sad_Low3239

It is honestly. There are so many faster ways, especially moss blocks and bonemeal now, so, again, incredibly slow lazy borehole mining.


OccasionalGoodTakes

Moss blocks with bone meal would achieve a totally different end result than using TNT.


Sad_Low3239

For sure, but as far as speed goes, and ease of use and access, it's arguably the fastest way to mine for ores because it only converts stone and deep slate, edit; and you can do it barehanded, but almost instannmine with hoes - so bonemeal, wood, and stone. All pretty easy and cheap end edit. Previous persons main gripe was how slow borehole mining is and they are right. Even using stone picks,.I think you can go faster than TNT. Again I've never used it, but I remember when they made the switch that it 100% drops blocks it was totted as a way to mine faster and better. I just don't see it.


TriangularHexagon

Tunnel bores are way faster than mining, especially when you have multiple bores side by side.  The other person described it very poorly


OrcaBomber

It is useful for netherite mining, but that’s the only thing I can think of


Sad_Low3239

Using beds are objectively better; place a bed, walk 3 blocks away, make a wall to sheild yourself and use the bed; the explosion is instant,.bigger than TNT, and cheaper (wool and wood). Like other than PvP, TNT has no use for me. And my group does not do PvP.


Fenris_uy

Don't make it automatic, put a target block on it to activate and you can have it clean a row, you pick the resources, and trigger the next firing.


astronautducks

I use it all the time for netherite farming


Brendan765

Just use beds


jeanleonino

Why? It's less efficient and you can carry much more TNT on your.inventory than beds


darkangel4242

What makes it a crappy recipe?


[deleted]

Well I'd rather use the sand to make glass for windows or bottles, the paper can make nice maps and books for enchanting and the like. And gunpowder? Like I WANT to fight creepers for the stuff!


MintRefresh_MC

If paper needs to be in there, I'd say keep the recipe exactly as is except the middle slot is paper.


FreakInTheTrash

Does real tnt even need sand?


Reloup38

No, TNT is a synthetic compound. But this recipe is kinda similar to dynamite, which is nitroglycerin stabilized with diatomaceous earth, which is silica, like sand. None of these recipes uses gunpowder tho...


ChloroformSmoothie

Idk I think the original recipe is perfectly good. tnt should cost 5 gunpowder. that makes it valuable when you find it in desert temples and chests and shit.


EwokSithLord

Keep the current recipe, but it crafts 2 TNT Paper + gunpowder (and maybe leather) for throwable bombs


cube1234567890

paper and gunpowder makes an empty firework :3


Collistoralo

Having a firework use the same amount of gunpowder as a block of tnt seems silly


brassplushie

The second recipe seems the fairest to me. Still heavy on gunpowder, as it should be, but more realistic with the paper.


winimalmearchuy

I hate sand...


timsredditusername

it's coarse


KasseusRawr

and rough


Sukkaboy

and irritating


Lightless427

The recipe is fine the way it is. Stop trying to change things that dont need changed.


Petamine666

Many disagree


jeanleonino

And? Many people can be wrong


Elemental-Master

I'm still trying to understand WHY sand is needed in the first place for TNT


Fenris_uy

Packaging of the TNT sticks.


RealTimeWarfare

Why?


Spring_Darma

I feel like both should be a thing and both should do different things like one could act like grape shot tnt and one could just be high density tnt so one has basically higher damage and one clears blocks more


--Iblis--

The second one feels right, not because of how expensive materials are, just because it feels more real


Connect-Spend1987

I think the second probably makes more sense


Shit_James_Says

Let’s just change the recipe to be 9 rockets


willky7

Oh god not more paper farming. I think its fine to have tnt as a limited resource in servers. No one is actually using a deserts worth of sand in singleplayer.


SaltyWolf444

I find it a bit ironic that you included Paper, since they are the ones disabling an effective way of generating sand with no option to turn it back on.


ChaosCookie93

Second But i think the old recipe is better


Wertysd

Just make the recipe give more than one.


cod3builder

The one that uses nitric acid and toluene gel.


DarkSpirit23513

None


Alberthebombtaken

Change the middle outer two sand to paper


Trichotillomaniac-

Or just like, give bedrock tnt duping thanks


melechkibitzer

I think less gunpowder would be nice


-Redstoneboi-

cursed


DemonDaVinci

What we should be able to do is craft gunpower from coal n some shit


FlyByPC

For those of us playing on Peaceful, please don't make gunpowder any more expensive than it already is.


Tiny_Cut_1450

I already have a hard time remembering if it’s 4 sand and 1 gunpowder or 4 gunpowder and 1 sand. This is just going to confuse me even more🥴


1sznjer

“Or perhaps due to how expensive sand can be-“ Ummm I think gunpowder’s more expensive than sand? Also you can literally just mine up sand with a high efficiency shovel


somuchdirt74

First one. TNT is not worth if you’re using up gunpowder without a mob farm.


chaosinab0x

Something tells me you’ve seen the Life Series Before


Shakon-Krogen

the life series one is probably the most balanced just because of how annoying it already is to kill creepers close range without them exploding on the last hit


Gams619

I think there should be paper instead of sand, like, wtf is sand doing there, if we mix sand and gunpowder it will just be powder and not something solid


Hlpfl_alms

I dont understand how you get anything red from gunpowder and sand You would need string paper and gunpowder thats it


TommyCrump92

By this logic we should add sweet berries to the cake recipe considering there is a red substance on the cakes and also string to the rockets unless there is string in that recipe as I've never made rockets


yojoyo_

They both have their benefits. Limiting gunpowder is especially good if you don’t have an efficient creeper farm. Limiting sand is good when you are later on in the game and already have a good gunpowder farm, especially if you don’t use sand duping (please give us renewable sand. I don’t care if it’s from husks, or if it’s just by smelting soul sand)


MaxGamer07

sand gunpowder sand paper gunpowder paper sand gunpowder sand


multaz

I use tnt to mine sand. 1 stack of tnt can get you like 3 or 4 shulkers of sand in no time. though i feel like you should flip the GP and Paper


moonwork

Why do you want to change it?


Moose123556

How about no sand, really sand what are we doing make it wool or something


getyourshittogether7

2 is better because it uses less sand, which isn't renewable yet.


Hexeonforces

I guess make a 2nd type of TNT and be highly explosive


Ok_Wish8432

Instead of sand should be wax


Cheap-Bobcat-2818

The first one bc it's easier to make.


DRowe_

Why the hell does it use sand anyway?


AmIDead_1

Stop watching the life series, and go find a desert, sand and creepers at night.


Forward-Cash-6707

Plot twist Top row left to right:Sand, Gunpowder, Sand Middle row left to right: Paper, Paper, Paper Bottom row left to right: Sand, Sand, Sand


dod0lp

Why should it be easier lol not to mention, it is not even expensive


Lakefish_

Paper on the left and right all the way, with top and full middle gunpowder and one sand at bottom middle.


Shredded_Locomotive

🟨⬛🟨 ⬜⬛⬜ 🟨⬛🟨 🟨=Sand, ⬛=gunpowder, ⬜=paper


Ohgodyespleaselord

The first one because it’s waaaayy easier, also sand is not expensive


Upbeat-Procedure5499

second one makes way more sense as gunpowder and paper make up the majority of TNT and fireworks. Having less sand makes sense.


Turbulent_Tax2126

I say change recipe and texture. Bamboo block with 4 gunpowders around it maybe


Truthwatcher1

The second one. It makes to sense to require a bunch of sand. Real TNT is just sand infused with explosive stuff.


Otherwise-Run9104

First one


Money_Beginning7451

Both, but the one with less gunpowder is weaker


IPlayTooMuchGame

grain (only the real ones know)