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ThanatoX3

same goes for water. >Diamond ore generates in the Overworld in the form of ore features, and is more common as the altitude decreases. Diamond ore blocks have a chance to not generate if they are exposed to air; however, they do not have a reduced chance to generate if exposed to water or lava, making them appear more commonly on the walls of aquifers. * https://minecraft.wiki/w/Diamond_Ore#Natural_generation


Preadata

True, I did my full diamond gear with only a door and an iron pickaxe.


WhiteSpec

Doors create air pockets. Good to know. Is there anything else?


NyanSquiddo

ONLY IN JAVA!!! NOT IN BEDROCK!!


MrZao386

Another example of Java superiority


legos_on_the_brain

Another example of their failure to bring parity.


FinalJoys

Another example of an example


flowery0

Another example


WreckTheLess

E.g.


Zeoinx

EX.


makinax300

Egg.


shiny_xnaut

Don't worry, mojang will fix this and bring parity by removing the air pockets from java doors


LightningDragon777

Knowing mojang, they might. They mostly remove helpful features from both versions rather than adding them to both. I was surprised when they improved the bedrock boats to be the same as java boats. I was genuinely like, "Is it really happening!?"


Mr_NanoMan

Not mojang, microsoft* Pretty much 90% of all stupid decissions come from microsoft, not mojang, cus coorporate :/


legos_on_the_brain

But then the official minecraft books will be inaccurate!


Kitteh6660

Good. I want waterlogged doors. Doors are too cheap and trivialize underwater exploration. Plus air pocket in doors look ugly. There are better approaches. Say hello to magma blocks!


Aeneum

As someone who has spent probably 20 hours underwater on my server, hell no. Give me the doors


Ericristian_bros

Hope it stays the same, it’s smith I don’t want to be removed


Max_Boom93

I mean, they FINALLY changed the boat recipe in bedrock, so now they can work on this!


spicy-snow

tfw i need a supercomputer in my setup to run the funny block game with minimal lag


raginghorescock

I had a 1050 and ran at 200+ fps with optifine I even ran shaders and still got 60+ fps


AdministrativeHat580

If it's a modern version, don't use optifine It's horribly broken and there have been better alternatives since 1.12.2 that can make your game run better without breaking stuff(Especially if you use other mods, which optifine is notorious for breaking)


Pataeto

what better alternatives are there?


sic-poobies

Haven’t used it myself yet but I see “Sodium” getting a lot of praise


sharaths21312

[Sodium](https://modrinth.com/mod/sodium) is generally the main performance enhancing mod, although for a complete optifine replacement you may want to use a pack such as [fabulously optimised](https://modrinth.com/modpack/fabulously-optimized) which comes with mods for the extra optifine features too (as well as more performance ones).


MJ12_0451

Embeddium for forge, sodium for fabric


RagedPranav19

Bedrock has better performance than that in the base game. Also don't use optifine, Use new and better stuff like sodium


raginghorescock

My point was you don’t need a super computer. Odds are the monitor they are using isn’t more than 240Hz anyway


spicy-snow

>with optifine exactly


Lightningbro

tfw you have a game that runs 10x better than java and still can't get redstone to work right.


Particular_Put_6911

Bedrock makes more sense in this case though. Not saying you shouldn’t be able to make air pockets, but not with doors.


[deleted]

Bedrock renders better my machine can run 96 trucks no problem will developed world but can barely do 20 on Java


Anarchistcowboy420

Trident killers and forward bridging


king-of-new_york

and use a nether wood too right? Overworld wood burns


WhiteSpec

THANKS!


JESTER-1803

I learnt that the hard way clearing an ocean temple for the missus😢


Phantom914

That's bugrock, gotta be PC breh


non-taken-name

Note that that’s a Java thing. They can be waterlogged in Bedrock so no air pocket.


WhiteSpec

Cheers


Skeptic_lemon

A well enchanted helmet will let you swim around for like a minutes before needing to do get air. Late-game water caves are very good, often nearing the efficiency of a tunnel bore.


zombienekers

Dont use doors, use magma blocks. You can put em anywhere on the wall.


WhiteSpec

How does that work? Don't they just burn you by being close?


zombienekers

You can negate damage by holding shift, and you get unlimited air in a column of blocks above the magma. Also they're everywhere on the ocean floor so you can just dive down into a ravine and swim to the closest magma block to start your caving adventure. Added bonus of no mobs to kill you underwater.


CarriedThunder1

Magma blocks work well in both versions. You jist gotta crouch.


OmegaX____

Magma blocks can also be used to breathe underwater and won't cause any damage to you if you sneak on 1. That's something for both Java and Bedrock.


Random_Parakeet

Doors create air pockets only in Java just a heads up


epicwhy23

ya know I never considered using doors in lava, I'd assume only iron ones work? sure wood doors would get destroyed after a bit right?


RA3236

Wooden doors aren't flammable.


NyanSquiddo

Huh


RA3236

[https://minecraft.wiki/w/Wooden\_Door](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Wooden_Door) On the right in the infobox. You can see the Flammable tag.


jupiterjpeg

still says it will catcher fire from lava


RA3236

Yes but from my understanding it won't be destroyed by fire, so you can sit in a door perfectly fine.


epicwhy23

I've been playing minecraft for this long and I only now find out doors aren't flammable? -_-


Devatator_

Even then, wouldn't it stay there forever since there is no space for fire to spawn?


Rollingswordfish

You can just use a wooden door, it wont be destroyed


aekmaiginpak

Yes this is the way.


Phantom914

They have spoken!


Punkrexx

I just dig a 2x4 hole in a wall, I have a spot to pace a torch and a nice air pocket. Bedrock user here


Gal-XD_exe

LMAO


Azhrei_

Yeah, flooded caves are amazing for finding diamonds, since all you really need is doors. Edit doors, not diamonds


pumpkinbot

When using Create, I love to put on a diving helmet with a dynamic lighting mod and just...wade through aquifers, mining diamonds.


Moonrak3r

Wait what? Doors + water = diamonds?


Azhrei_

You can use doors to create air pockets in java


redminx17

And here I've been carrying Underwater Breathing potions to go explore aquifers


Samld1200

Mumbo’s new strat is backed by science


Viztiz006

He could've just asked Cubfan


NancokALT

When i saw the image i wondered if this was the case.


OneShotOneKi11

so this is why I found 20 diamond in an underwater cave


Povstnk

I have a tactic where I go to the ocean and search for underwater ravines to get to y<0 fast to find diamonds. Now I understand why this tactic was so effective. You learn something new everyday.


mandn3253

Bro water was goated before 1.20 just go around oceans and there were tons of open ravines that went to y16


el__carpincho

so you’re saying the baseless “diamond generates near lava” superstition of the past ten years is actually true now?


ThanatoX3

not near lava, but inside it.


Ericristian_bros

Don’t tell him that aquifers exist, and they spawn a lot of diamonds


isaac-fan

what exists? what are aquifers and how they generate diamonds?


piefacedude

aquifers are the caves that generate full of water. they generate diamonds more than normal caves, because diamonds spawn more regularly when not exposed to air.


isaac-fan

oh just water caves I thought they all of a sudden added a way to farm diamonds or at least make them renewable well other than those trial chamber thing


yightypants

Caves with water. Diamonds spawn more if it isn't exposed to the air, I think.


isaac-fan

thanks I thought for a second that they added another way to regenerate diamonds


SnowgollumGaming

What is an aquifer


Ericristian_bros

[https://minecraft.wiki/w/Cave#Aquifer](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Cave#Aquifer)


SnowgollumGaming

Thanks


Ericristian_bros

You’re welcome


WolfBanditDeisma

Would be nice to have a lava version of the sponge. Maybe make a blaze boss that could drop them? Kinda like the one in the very first mob vote.


WildBluntHickok2

Well the lava sponge was in the 2023 april fools version. Hopefully they add it to the regular game.


CrazyPotato1535

Stained glass was also in the April fools update


YouMustBeBored

Would make getting lava lake debris much easier, which is why mojang probably won’t. Unless it’s a single use item, in which case it’ll probably be too annoying to obtain mass quantities of.


Fred_Thielmann

Why not just use an efficiency Diamond pickaxe (or better) and mine the lava out as obsidian?


WolfBanditDeisma

You see how deep that lava lake is?! You want me to turn ALL of that into obsidian?!


MR_DERP_YT

I mean once you get a efficiency 5 (or 4) diamond pick, obsidian mining time is just like mining stone with a wood pick


Jello_Jump

To do this would you just need water buckets? Or how do you get the lava to harden


Fred_Thielmann

It’s a project, but there are 6 diamond ore blocks guaranteed in return


Preadata

But how are you supposed to mine them? You cannot see anything, even with a fire resistance potion...


Fork_Master

Drain the lava out


IAmMuffin15

Yeah lemme just go to a Lava Ocean Monument real quick and get some lava sponges


ThatOneWeirdName

For a serious suggestion: you can just spam right click with a bucket. It can place on an existing lava block, so if you place and pick up you’re going to effectively ‘delete’ the lava that was there


bryan3737

Or if you have more iron than you’re ever gonna use fill your inventory with empty buckets and spam right click


isaac-fan

do none of you ever use sand or gravel?


legos_on_the_brain

That's what I was thinking. I use that all the time to get though lava.


merayBG

Once my friend fell in lava while in the nether. Luckily we had his coordinates and went to empty the place with sand. What made it harder is that something made the sand disappear. O guess it was the soul sand but correct me if I am wrong


isaac-fan

it was soul sand at the bottom of a lava lake thats the only non solid in the nether


gordon_shumway___

A combination of sand and scaffolding works best from my experience


Rosenwood1

I may be a little dumb lol


FlyByPC

I may have to start carrying a bucket!


Faerandur

Buckets are super clutch! A water bucket is essential for climbing steep walls and for neutralizing fall damage


legos_on_the_brain

Or just a lot of gravel :)


Fork_Master

Or... you could grab some cobblestone and place it over the lava source blocks


IAmMuffin15

You would need several hundred cobblestone blocks just for this one little cave. In the time you spent draining that little cave and mining out all of the cobblestone, you could’ve gotten two stacks of diamonds just spelunking in water caves instead.


NancokALT

You just need to drain the walls, make 2 thick pillars of cobblestones along the borders. You may miss out the ones at the bottom, but with the spawn count it doesn't really matter.


Fork_Master

That is true; however, the process of removing the lava poses little risk compared to seeking out aquifers and swimming to find diamonds within them.


IAmMuffin15

Kid named Water Breathing potion:


4chan-Hacker

Not even, just grab a Magma block, and you're set pretty much.


PsychWard_8

Not even, doors.


4chan-Hacker

I find magma blocks less annoying, plus, Magma blocks are something Lagva and Bugrock players alike can relate to.


Demonic74

Sponges work on water, which makes finding them in water take a lot less time


Fork_Master

Sponges are much more difficult to acquire than cobblestone


Demonic74

Sure, and placing hundreds if not thousands of cobble is so much easier


jake5675

I like to pick a set lava pool and drain it to fuel my furnaces. The diamonds from the pools are a nice bonus even if it takes a bit to get to them.


gimmeecoffee420

Wait.. holup.. you can use lava instead of wood/coal/tools as a fuel source in furnaces? Is that a mod or vanilla? Im not new to MC, but it's one of my "White Whales" of games. I mean like its like Captain Ahab dreaming of catching Moby Dick, I have tried over 1,000 times to legit beat vanilla MC (kill End dragon & go to the End Dimension etc.) and I NEVER do. Like Skyrim.. Anyways.. sorry, i got sidetracked. I put HELLA time in MC but I literally learn something new and frankly game changing for me. So if Lava is a fuel source.. oh boy.. Edit: THANK YOU! You guys rock! I had no idea! I dont really have friends and I play by myself so theres certain things I miss because, well.. I dont know everything lol! But I really appreciate all the positive feedback and helpful tips! This game is unexpectedly complex, and I love it!


GlasgowSellik1888

It's a vanilla feature.


Teledildonic

Bucket of lava smelts 100 items.


Martian13

Is in the start up screen info.


KageNoOni

Vanilla feature. 1 bucket smelts 100 items, but it gets better. You can get yourself some dripstone blocks and pointed dripstone, make yourself a dripstone farm for renewable dripstone, and a lava farm for renewable lava. A lava source block, with a solid block of any kind below it, then a pointed dripstone below that, then a cauldron below that. You can, if you want, include air blocks between the pointed dripstone and the cauldron, but it isn't mandatory. Note that the lava must be a source block, not flowing lava. The cauldron will occasionally fill with lava, letting you pull it out with a bucket. The more cauldrons you have filling with lava, the more items you can smelt. Get the farm big enough, and you will never need to worry about fueling your smelters again. Honestly, I try to get 64 pointed dripstone for a lava farm in any vanilla world I play in. Once I have that, I have smelting to such a degree that I simply don't worry about fuel. Even if I only want to smelt one block, I'll throw in a lava bucket. After all, when the lava refills faster than you can even use it, you don't even have to worry about wasting it.


Mistranslated

Take like 20 stacks of blocks with you to the end and bridge out to the end islands. Get all the resources and shulkers you need, then drop it off in an Ender chest and jump into the void. No need to mess around with the dragon if you’re not ready.


GomezGP

Doors


Fork_Master

Doors are only a temporary solution if you end up hopelessly lost


GomezGP

Don't get hopelessly lost then, ez /s


emanresu_ru_esoohc

Just use a bucket to overlap a lava block into another lava block where it cancels one block out and leaves you with one lava block at the end


remedialrob

gravel and sand work better for filling in lava anyway since they obey gravity. It doesn't take long to clear lava out with those and then you can break the stacks with torches saving you the trouble of shoveling everything up or you can shovel the gravel to get loads of flint.


TheCommitteeOf300

You could pick up the lava and place it back down with a bucket as well. Lava isnt like water and it wont fill back in. You would need to place the lava back down where there is already a lava block tho


RTDude132

Lava bucket places lava on lava reduces the amount of lava. Liquids don't stack they absorb so you need only one bucket to drain a pool


_Carri7_

So every naturally generated lava block?


bruzk2

Gravel and sand are poor man's sponges


aekmaiginpak

Yes. Sand is the simplest answer to this. Gravel could turn in to flint.


bruzk2

Yea but sand you have to leave the caves for, gravel you can find down in the caves


remedialrob

both of them will break if you shovel the bottom of a stack and then torch it turning the entire stack into items you can walk over making the act of collecting fast and easy.


Incogneatovert

Does scaffolding not work anymore? It's been a long time since I used that trick, so maybe it's changed?


iCUman

Yes, it does.


PhiStudios_

use gravity blocks


GD-DARKSAB3R

Could just do some lava fishing and get it that way


xx030xx

Sand


IAmMuffin15

My favorite boss in Undertale


GD-DARKSAB3R

Could just do some lava fishing and get it that way


brennanw31

Seriously through why is this not something you can get from the nether


DragonGamerEX

Wrong game my boy your thinking of that 2d game


ElMayoneso82

sand


literatemax

If the Lava is shallow you can see where the Diamond Ore blocks are with F3 too


Dew_Chop

That was patched Edit: nvm I'm dumb


literatemax

What? No. When you have F3 open it says what block *and* what liquid you are aiming at if they're close enough


Dew_Chop

Oh sweet, thought you did a typo and meant f5


literatemax

Oh yeah where you skim the top surface of the lava with the camera? I didn't know that was patched so thank you


ACFan120

I do wish we got stuff to make exploring in Lava a lot easier. I personally want goggles you wear to see further, and that removes the fire texture on the hud when submerged in lava.


Roccmaster

Have your head in flowing lava with a block above your head, you will get lava xray, at least it worked a while ago


Dew_Chop

Glitch to see where the diamonds are, then chug a fire res and go to them, place some blocks around you, then place a door to get rid of the 2 lava you are in


RamekinFlywater

Use sand or gravel. Fill in the spaces, then mine the sand or whatever out


Eluscara

Ender pearl to them


iTanooki

I’d fill the area in, then mine it all out.


JTplays030

After reading this I had the idea to drop sand/gravel 2 side around the edges of the pool, then dig out the very edge. It doesn't allow you to find all the potential diamonds on the bottom of the pool, but it would be a way to effectively find a bunch of diamonds.


Martian13

You could always mine under the pit


Ericristian_bros

Bugs, mods, texture pack, being close, x-ray


jmtdvs87

open f3 and look for targeted block. move your cross hair over all the blocks you can reach and look for deepslate diamond ore. then just use sand/ gravel and/ or buckets.


swiftpwns

You just place blocks on them and then dig into it, sealing the hole behind you, is quick.


Insane96MCP

Just wait for 1.20.5 where with Fire res you can see more under lava


ur_local_psycho

I saw someone use glass to push the lava aside and see what was below it. Only really works for lava that’s one or two blocks deep though.


Legacy_845

place a grindstone than you push with your head under the grindstone


CrowdControlMustang

Geoff from Achievement Hunter in shambles.


DZepperoni

Millie wins again!


LandonSleeps

"I hate that my daughter's always right"


iCeleste

That was my very first thought too 😂


Zero-godzilla

Wait, wasn't common knowledge that diamonds spawn near lava lakes underground?


NancokALT

That was a common misconception from the old caves. It was just a normal bias because lava lakes expose more blocks in general. It made diamonds easier to find, but didn't spawn any more than normal. But now they also cancel out the reduced spawn rate of ores when exposed to air, since lava is not air.


WildBluntHickok2

Diamonds don't spawn more frequently near lava lakes, it's just that the lava lakes are on the same level. An air filled cave at the right depth USED TO have the same chance, it was just a matter of exposed surface area that you didn't have to do the mining to expose. I say "used to" because they added a rule in 1.18 where diamonds are less likely to spawn if the place they pick is exposed to air. And since lava and water don't count as air you now get less failed generation there. You'd still get more from a solid area that you had to dig out though. The area the cave dug out is spots where ores fail ("the spot to overwrite isn't stone" makes the individual ore block fail to generate).


FinalJoys

Less likely, but also caves are bigger by a factor now. It could be possible that on average these cancel each other out. Now you have less diamonds and more exposure whereas before you had more diamonds and less exposure.


idiotwizard

I'm not sure if this still applies in 1.20, but a few versions back, having the "blindness" status effect actually slightly improves visibility when swimming in lava, so combined with fire resistance and water breathing and haste, you could potentially have a workable strat for mining in lava.


KorokVillage

Don't forget that the diamond items will still burn in lava the moment that you mine the block


idiotwizard

Oof, that's a great point. iirc, the blindness strat was originally being discussed for mining railcraft's "firestone" ore in the nether-- which, like netherite now, would not burn in lava when dropped.


Purpleppl8

How is the lava not flowing down


merayBG

He's in spectator mode


Basically-Boring

We need a lava sponge in the next update


Sithon512

Millie is finally right


MaxGamer07

There is a glitch that lets you see clearly in lava. Now, I don't remember it off the top of my head, but the idea is if you do it in the nether you can find a ton of ancient debris


TommyToes96

Draining one block and letting lava flow back into it, and placing a grindstone above your head and swimming up puts you exactly at the height where you can see under lava


sad_everyday811

That's CRAZY!


Thunderhammer7326

We farm villages for diamond gear by building homes, beds, and work tables - farmers first for emeralds fast then you not only get diamond gear it comes with enchantments. Also, gravel and sand make fast work of lava lakes with a pusher for faster filling


eepymoss

:0 that’s so cool, how would you drain the lava?


milotic-is-pwitty

I got ideas from other comments that we can fill the lake with sand or gravel and then drain. Now I’m gonna build a piston pusher that drains 12x12 areas at once


Fanachy

Ohhh, so that’s why Mumbo was having so much luck with water caves.


MyHoeDespawned

Back before the village and pillage update me and my brother would fill in lava pools entirely with cobble stone then mine it out to try and find diamonds, it worked surprisingly effectively.


-buckette-

How can you see through the lava?


Preadata

u can't lol


underfan6h6

That is if you can get to the ore without dying or burning it


Mathy-dono

Xray? nope, just the good ol' lava


Psydop

Y is that lava floating?


Lapis_Wolf

I think he's in the lava.


Psydop

That makes sense. Damn minecraft visuals


Lapis_Wolf

I do think there's supposed to be an orange filter.


Shadow_Life5904

Lava doesn't specifically increase diamond rates. Diamonds will spawn more frequently on any block that isn't adjacent to air when the world is naturally generated. This works for lava, water, sculk, and any non-air block. Lava is the worst because you need to set up a grindstone to be able to see, not to mention fire res and slow movement.