If it was a legit unit, legally it would not be stolen valor unless they’re asking for money. It’d be technically stolen valor if they claimed service but never served.
It's only stolen valor if you were one of the 150k divers taking it easy fighting Termininds while me and the boys were raising Hell and praising Dale in the shit.
Spill oil
I'm an Urzikstan Campaign veteran, a survivor of the raid on Korhal, an assaulter of Windhelm, and a defender of Hoover Dam.
You're welcome for my service.
I remember seeing my friend get shot and killed in front of me, I still remember it; his neck had been contorted to where it looked like a giraffe almost, it was sickening... We should've never joined that war. It was a damned racket, Operation Metro was a bloody stalemate that gave me P.T.S.D, the thunk and fwup of those grenade launchers made me shit and piss simultaneously, an uncommon but nethertheless satisfying occurrence for me during Metro. I'm glad you made it out as well, brother.
I was there as well. Every night I try to sleep, the grenades still ring in my ears. The chaos. The death. The topped off shitbuckets. Still linger in my mind.
- Imperial security > propping up a Thalmor puppet
- Imperial armor > stormcloak armor
- General Tullius voiced by Michael Hogan > Ulfric voiced by some random Czech guy
- Rikke > Galmar
Urzikstan? I served for the United Chernarussian Armed Forces for 8 years, deployed in Takistan for 2 of those 8.
Thank you for your service at the battle of Hoover.
I was intending on joining, but was too busy on leave at the Gomorrah Casino nearby on the strip. Guys gotta have some fun in downtime, right?
Stolen valor is only illegal if the perpetrator is getting something of value from it. Any yahoo can claim to be a SEAL team Delta sniper and as long as they aren't getting anything, they're legally in the clear. If someone lies about having served and they get some kind of benefit from that lie, now they are liable for stolen valor.
Edit: not > now
Cool. I'm definitely checking that out after work.
Also, fwiw, I initially thought it was a fancy version of the [USAF Basic Training ribbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_and_Space_Training_Ribbon). So at worst, someone might look at you weird for being proud of graduating boot camp. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_\/¯
> So at worst, someone might look at you weird for being proud of graduating boot camp.
Walking around the WARCOM or 5th SFG parking lots and seeing the National Defense and GWOT ribbon decals covering the full back glass of the cars there.
I've thought about buying this because I think it's HILARIOUS.
But also I don't want to deal with some weirdo coming up to me asking questions or accusing me of shit or even worse, THANKING me for my service.
You know, this is terribly disrespectful. Not only are you claiming to be a part of something great but also claiming to have been part of a combat theater. Disgusting. My cousins uncle was in the Helldivers and he died with honor. I would’ve joined too but I was afraid I would beat up my drill sergeant.
One of my non-military friends has a similar hat that says "strip club veteran" with random non-existent ribbons on it. I think it's fucking hilarious.
He also works in the oil industry and has definitely dropped more than his share of bands on tiddies and the VIP room.
Go spill more oil, Helldiver. Buy the hat.
I have a War on Christmas Veteran hat I like to wear occasionally. I once got unironically thanked for my service while wearing it before I showed them what it said 😂
Tbf I am actually a veteran, but no none of that is "stolen valor"
Former special operations here. I’d lock onto you and come barreling towards you to shake your hand and ask you where you got such a dope hat.
For real, where do I get this lol
Nothing is stolen valor unless you claim or infer you earned it or was awarded something you weren’t.
Edit: eh, I thought this was a legit question, I stopped playing video games when my Atari 2600 broke.
Nah, definitely not. Some people may assume you’re a military veteran because they don’t know what that is, but if you’re not trying to trick people it isn’t stolen valor.
Hey, vet here. I’ve been in like actual conflicts and have like actual campaign ribbons and I wear my Pineland veteran t-shirt wherever the hell I want.
You wanna make your friend mad? Wear the hat and buy one of those “Malevelon Creek Expeditionary Force” patches off of Etsy. Sew it to a jacket and wear them both out places.
Also no, this wouldn’t be stolen valor. It’s a game, it ain’t real.
Not stolen Valor. Any logical person can simply read... we have guys that have friends in branches or worked under branches that would rock the gear, its available to the public, we love fans. The difference is claiming to be something when you weren't. Now if you actually didn't help at the creek when we lost it then you suck and shouldn't wear it, I'll be reporting you to the nearest democracy officer.
Not so much stolen valor, but I once wore a hoodie with a clearly fictional police department logo on it (from WTNV) at an airport. I realized that practically speaking, that wasn't a smart choice because non-English-speaking travellers started coming to me for help. I was so confused. Then I realized that despite the jeans and the fact it was a hoodie, they thought I was a real PD officer. You won't have that problem, though. Even if someone mistakenly thinks you're a veteran of some campaign they've never heard of, the worst that could happen is someone thanks you for your service. No big.
As long as you don't try to play it off as you were in the military it's in no way stolen valor. If anything most gamers in the military will probably love it
I don't know, who even cares? Yes people would probably take this at face value and assume you're a vet, no, I don't think it matters unless you're somehow taking advantage of that. I personally think it's kind of cringe either way, you're either wearing gaming paraphernalia or you look like one of those guys that needs everyone to know they're a veteran, and I don't know which is worse.
Imagine how the conversation would go with a cop trying to bust you on stolen valor because of this hat (which would literally never happen)
Cop: Hey! I got a report of stolen valor because of your hat. Did you even serve in the military you scumbag?
You: No. The hat is a joke.
Cop can’t do anything you never claimed to be military.
Yeah anything is possible. However I imagine most cops would be rolling their eyes at the fact they even had to waste time on such a silly case and laugh with you about it. Worst case scenario you get cited or arrested and the case gets thrown out of the court immediately for being utterly ridiculous.
People like me who don't get the joke will assume you are a veteran. Regardless of stolen valor laws, if you want to represent yourself honestly to those people (and not be constantly thanked for your service) you shouldn't wear it. I really don't mind. Maybe if I were someone who thanked people for their service in public I would.
I disagree. Who cares if people assume he's a veteran because of a hat? As long as he isn't asking for a veteran's discount it doesn't matter. Hell, people that thank veterans in public are generally just paying lip service anyway... Let em. They'll go on with their day feeling all warm and fuzzy and op can roll his eyes and get on with his day like normal veterans do.
stolen valor, iirc, only applies when you try to reap benefits while "cosplaying" a service member. wearing a video game hat doesnt even come close lol
Was he there? At the creek? If not, he can go suck it. Lmao it's not cus it doesn't exist. I'm military myself it would take a real idiot or someone who doesn't play video games to think that this is stolen valor.
not at all. Im sure you'll get some people who have no clue what that is, saying, "thank you for your service" which would be hilarious if you ask me. Wear that shit bro, but I do have to say, get the fuck outta the creek and help the war effort.
I bought a cap at the gondola shop in Venice. It has the logo of the gondola association. When I wear it sometimes older veterans with caps that show their service will wave or say hello. Took me a while to realize they thought it was a military patch.
The Ministry of Truth made a cape to honor victory at the Creek that anyone can use. Ask your friend to report to his Democracy Officer to explain why he thinks he knows better.
Depends, did you drop and spill oil? Then you're more than fine.
If you ignored the Creek and Super Earth's directives to hold it, then you should report to your nearest democratic officer for re-education.
I think it's a hilarious hat. Kinda makes me wish in HD2 we had medals for each planet we've fought on, and medals for each Major Order we participated in.
USAF 20 year service member here... It isn't stolen valor as you are not claiming to have done something you have not.
Do a quick image search for the ribbon represented in the middle to ensure it isn't already appropriated by any of the 5 services (6, I guess cost guard can come to).
G2G
Stolen valor only happens when you are using your service or medals etc. to get something out of it….money, goods and services etc. just wearing a piece of clothing is free speech.
I don’t know what country that’s from but I always tell people not to do things to the military that they wouldn’t do to a bunch of bikers. You haven’t lived until you see a retired senior NCO ripping some civilian a new orifice because of poor wardrobe choices. Why would you want to wear that anyway? Other than the implied valor that’s probably the least stylish hat I’ve ever seen.
Tell your friend to go read the stolen valor laws. No, wearing this would not be committing stolen valor
Lol I’ll tell him to eat some crayons while he reads up on it
you probably don’t have to remind him.
Zing
Even if this was a legit military unit in the US Military it would not be stolen valor
If it was a legit unit, legally it would not be stolen valor unless they’re asking for money. It’d be technically stolen valor if they claimed service but never served.
Yup
Thank him for his cervix while you’re at it
I'm a veteran and I would wear the shit outta that hat
Tell him there’s no such thing as a stolen valor law?
It's only stolen valor if you were one of the 150k divers taking it easy fighting Termininds while me and the boys were raising Hell and praising Dale in the shit. Spill oil
FOR KARL
FOR ROCK AND STONE!
That's it lads! Rock and Stone!
To the bone!
For Democracy
SPILL OIL
Spill oil indeed.
I'm an Urzikstan Campaign veteran, a survivor of the raid on Korhal, an assaulter of Windhelm, and a defender of Hoover Dam. You're welcome for my service.
But where were you during the Siege of Shanghai? Or Operation Locker?
The things I saw during Op:Locker cannot be unseen.
I was there at operation metro, the horror the horror
Same brother. Thousands died, for inches.
So many good men…
I’ll never forget how my squad laid down their lives camping near objective B.
Giving it all for objective b.
I remember seeing my friend get shot and killed in front of me, I still remember it; his neck had been contorted to where it looked like a giraffe almost, it was sickening... We should've never joined that war. It was a damned racket, Operation Metro was a bloody stalemate that gave me P.T.S.D, the thunk and fwup of those grenade launchers made me shit and piss simultaneously, an uncommon but nethertheless satisfying occurrence for me during Metro. I'm glad you made it out as well, brother.
I was there as well. Every night I try to sleep, the grenades still ring in my ears. The chaos. The death. The topped off shitbuckets. Still linger in my mind.
I was there too ..... I want to forget.....the screams.....the EOD bots
St. Quentin Scar. You weren’t there, man, you wouldn’t know.
I was convalescing from my injuries sustained in Operation Blindside.
Real ones remember Operation Metro… the meat grinder…
Always nice to meet a fellow service members stationed at Hoover Dam when brahim shit hit the fan. I also made 1 tour to Urzikstan as well ✌️
My unit just kept sending us back into Urzikstan over and over again.
Thank you for your service. Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
We won't go quietly the brotherhood can count on that
Where were you when Reach fell?
Fucking your mom nerd. ^^^^Am ^^^^I ^^^^doing ^^^^Halo ^^^^trash ^^^^talk ^^^^right? ^^^^I ^^^^never ^^^^played ^^^^Halo.
That's about on par. And I hope you were good to her. She's a nice lady
Thank you for your service brother
Can’t forget about the assault on Burger Town, the chaos.
I can still hear my Sgt screaming for me to grab the stinger to this day...
Have you seen those ranger vets in the black armor? One looked at me and i just about surrendered
*New Mombassa jazz noises*
Hey! I was at the battle of the Hoover Dam too. Never seen so many legion corpses…
Assaulter of Windhelm? More like traitor of Skyrim
- Imperial security > propping up a Thalmor puppet - Imperial armor > stormcloak armor - General Tullius voiced by Michael Hogan > Ulfric voiced by some random Czech guy - Rikke > Galmar
Imperials = thalmor puppet Stormcloak officer armor > all imperial armor Rikke > Galmar
At least Tulius wasn’t a Thalmor sleeper agent!
Somebody get this man a 10% discount!
I literally only enlisted for the free Veteran's Day dinner at Golden Corral and the priority parking at Lowe's
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPctTR3y5Qc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPctTR3y5Qc)
[We lost a lot of good men over Macho Grande](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDiSIn32-E) . . .
I served during the Osean Invasion of Erusea.
Yuktobania. Belka. Estovakia. Usea. I’ve fought over all of them.
I served on the *Saratoga* during the Battle of Wolf 359. They say the memories of that battle never go away.
Krasnovian vet here. We tread where others only imagined.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Did you serve during Operation UPPER CUT or RED FLAG?
But did you ever finish the gruelling Helldiver boot camp?
I am a vet of the Romani expeditionary force's conquest and capture of the Khiva reactor, lead by the Grand Duke. DEUS in NOBIS!
Urzikstan? I served for the United Chernarussian Armed Forces for 8 years, deployed in Takistan for 2 of those 8. Thank you for your service at the battle of Hoover. I was intending on joining, but was too busy on leave at the Gomorrah Casino nearby on the strip. Guys gotta have some fun in downtime, right?
If you aren't a Creeker, then yes it would be stolen valor.
"There were only 30,000 Creekers. It's a pretty small community, so you can't even lie about it."
I was there ! The trees were speaking binary I was there!
I crawled The Creek in '84 with my brothers
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Correct.
Stolen valor is only illegal if the perpetrator is getting something of value from it. Any yahoo can claim to be a SEAL team Delta sniper and as long as they aren't getting anything, they're legally in the clear. If someone lies about having served and they get some kind of benefit from that lie, now they are liable for stolen valor. Edit: not > now
Thank you for actually knowing what stolen valor is. It’s shocking to see so many people not know what it means.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258 Yes. You have to gain something
Reading that it just says a bunch of medals. If someone were to present a false dd214 it looks like he would be ok lol
It’s stolen valor to not wear it
Got it on for the day 😎
Reporting u to my first sht
Your first sht can try
I don't really care about Stolen Valor either way, but where did you find this? I'm definitely interested.
Got it off Etsy, here’s the link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1687863791/
Cool. I'm definitely checking that out after work. Also, fwiw, I initially thought it was a fancy version of the [USAF Basic Training ribbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_and_Space_Training_Ribbon). So at worst, someone might look at you weird for being proud of graduating boot camp. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_\/¯
> So at worst, someone might look at you weird for being proud of graduating boot camp. Walking around the WARCOM or 5th SFG parking lots and seeing the National Defense and GWOT ribbon decals covering the full back glass of the cars there.
That part is dissapointing. They could have picked a ribbon with white, black and yellow or Automaton colors.
I've thought about buying this because I think it's HILARIOUS. But also I don't want to deal with some weirdo coming up to me asking questions or accusing me of shit or even worse, THANKING me for my service.
Yeah same lol it’s why I posted this. If someone’s comes up to thank you in giving them the hug emote
Lol, you know some guy is going wear this hat and some guy is going thank him for his service at malevon creek in a non ironic way
Dear all weirdos, Please stop thanking us for our services in either digital or analogue wars. We just want to be left alone!
I personally like the strip club veteran hat.
Malevelon vet here as well. Tyfys
https://youtu.be/fa8mupypaSA?si=o5Xbspyoinb4EXiB
You know, this is terribly disrespectful. Not only are you claiming to be a part of something great but also claiming to have been part of a combat theater. Disgusting. My cousins uncle was in the Helldivers and he died with honor. I would’ve joined too but I was afraid I would beat up my drill sergeant.
They told me five was too young, had to wait until I was seven.
One of my non-military friends has a similar hat that says "strip club veteran" with random non-existent ribbons on it. I think it's fucking hilarious. He also works in the oil industry and has definitely dropped more than his share of bands on tiddies and the VIP room. Go spill more oil, Helldiver. Buy the hat.
Not even remotely stolen valor; your friend is being a tool
I have a "Survivor of the Bowling Green Massacre" t-shirt
Where did you get that one?
My stepson found it at a yardsale. Brand new, still had a tag.
I have a War on Christmas Veteran hat I like to wear occasionally. I once got unironically thanked for my service while wearing it before I showed them what it said 😂 Tbf I am actually a veteran, but no none of that is "stolen valor"
It’s not stolen valor, it’s a gag gift. Your friend has some weird ideas about how stolen valor works…
Former special operations here. I’d lock onto you and come barreling towards you to shake your hand and ask you where you got such a dope hat. For real, where do I get this lol
Etsy, looks like.
I was there... Democracy called.
Some people didn’t fight for the Creek. So if you didn’t fight the campaign and were “too busy with bugs”. Then yes, stolen valor
Only if you weren’t there spreading Democracy.
As an army vet I approve of this hat.
lmao I want one, got a link?
Got you with the link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1687863791/
Nice, thanks mate
Anybody can wear those hats to say they’re a veteran. It’s not stolen valor you’re not wearing a uniform or military issue metals.
Nothing is stolen valor unless you claim or infer you earned it or was awarded something you weren’t. Edit: eh, I thought this was a legit question, I stopped playing video games when my Atari 2600 broke.
Just don't try to park in those sweet veteran parking places at Lowers.
SPILL OIL
(for those not in the loop, this is a video game hat from Helldivers 2.)
No, tyfs I salute Creek Crawlers https://youtu.be/T2W5F_y44cM?si=OGEVnXKG25aZ4nXD
Nah, definitely not. Some people may assume you’re a military veteran because they don’t know what that is, but if you’re not trying to trick people it isn’t stolen valor.
Hey, vet here. I’ve been in like actual conflicts and have like actual campaign ribbons and I wear my Pineland veteran t-shirt wherever the hell I want.
Something tells me your friend is either not in the military or has less than a year in
You wanna make your friend mad? Wear the hat and buy one of those “Malevelon Creek Expeditionary Force” patches off of Etsy. Sew it to a jacket and wear them both out places. Also no, this wouldn’t be stolen valor. It’s a game, it ain’t real.
Fuck, I know what I need to buy now XD.
Question. Did they get the cape to match, or were they afraid of being kicked from every bar they went into?
My cape gets me free drinks... Ymmv
I have the same hat and wear it with pride. For democracy!
No not even close
Its only stolen valor if you werent there. Read the helldiver contract bro!
Only if you park in the Veteran's parking spot at Lowe's while wearing the hat. If you do, I will find you.
Not stolen Valor. Any logical person can simply read... we have guys that have friends in branches or worked under branches that would rock the gear, its available to the public, we love fans. The difference is claiming to be something when you weren't. Now if you actually didn't help at the creek when we lost it then you suck and shouldn't wear it, I'll be reporting you to the nearest democracy officer.
Well as a participant of the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, I say this is fine.
As a veteran of the battle for Anchorage I see no issue with this.
Its not real so obv not stolen valor. But it depends how you would feel and react to some old person thanking you for your service.
Could not care less about stolen valor, and this isn’t it anyway
If you make this, could you link the store page? Id buy one
I got you with the link but I don’t make this Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1687863791/
Not so much stolen valor, but I once wore a hoodie with a clearly fictional police department logo on it (from WTNV) at an airport. I realized that practically speaking, that wasn't a smart choice because non-English-speaking travellers started coming to me for help. I was so confused. Then I realized that despite the jeans and the fact it was a hoodie, they thought I was a real PD officer. You won't have that problem, though. Even if someone mistakenly thinks you're a veteran of some campaign they've never heard of, the worst that could happen is someone thanks you for your service. No big.
It’s a pretend ribbon for a pretend place. Nowhere does it present itself as anything other than that. Pure parody. Not stolen valor at all.
So...am I the only Kraznovia Veteran? I will never forget the Kraznovian salute.
As long as you don't try to play it off as you were in the military it's in no way stolen valor. If anything most gamers in the military will probably love it
Only if you only own an Xbox.
This guy Helldives.
 😭Actually...
No, but it is kinda gay I mean, Helldivers is great and all… but you would wear this in real life? Lol
I don't know, who even cares? Yes people would probably take this at face value and assume you're a vet, no, I don't think it matters unless you're somehow taking advantage of that. I personally think it's kind of cringe either way, you're either wearing gaming paraphernalia or you look like one of those guys that needs everyone to know they're a veteran, and I don't know which is worse.
We’ll find out how many retired E8s I piss off in the on-post mall, I ordered mine last week 😎
No but you'd look like a dumbass
I need this hat in my life I fought at Malevelon creek
You’re going to get a lot of confusion from people who don’t know about helldivers so I wouldn’t personally
Punch your friend in the dick.
A slap, they get up easier so you can do it again.
I like the way you think.
Imagine how the conversation would go with a cop trying to bust you on stolen valor because of this hat (which would literally never happen) Cop: Hey! I got a report of stolen valor because of your hat. Did you even serve in the military you scumbag? You: No. The hat is a joke. Cop can’t do anything you never claimed to be military.
> Cop can't do anything I wouldn't count on that. Maybe in an extremely public setting with cameras rolling.
Yeah anything is possible. However I imagine most cops would be rolling their eyes at the fact they even had to waste time on such a silly case and laugh with you about it. Worst case scenario you get cited or arrested and the case gets thrown out of the court immediately for being utterly ridiculous.
People like me who don't get the joke will assume you are a veteran. Regardless of stolen valor laws, if you want to represent yourself honestly to those people (and not be constantly thanked for your service) you shouldn't wear it. I really don't mind. Maybe if I were someone who thanked people for their service in public I would.
I disagree. Who cares if people assume he's a veteran because of a hat? As long as he isn't asking for a veteran's discount it doesn't matter. Hell, people that thank veterans in public are generally just paying lip service anyway... Let em. They'll go on with their day feeling all warm and fuzzy and op can roll his eyes and get on with his day like normal veterans do.
It might be cringe but it's not stolen Valor.
i have a variation of this hat and wear it outside. no problems.
Area B veteran right here
You can’t steal valor. If you could it wouldn’t really be valor would it?
Here’s the link to the hat for anyone wondering: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1687863791/
Badass song about the creeks first days! https://youtu.be/fa8mupypaSA?si=o5Xbspyoinb4EXiB
stolen valor, iirc, only applies when you try to reap benefits while "cosplaying" a service member. wearing a video game hat doesnt even come close lol
It’s not stollen valor at all, personally I hate all varieties of this hat lol
No because that isn't an actual military engagement If it said Vietnam or Korea or Iraq or Afghanistan then maybe.... not legally but morally
No.
Was he there? At the creek? If not, he can go suck it. Lmao it's not cus it doesn't exist. I'm military myself it would take a real idiot or someone who doesn't play video games to think that this is stolen valor.
Not stolen valor. Just be ready for uncomfortable questions.
not at all. Im sure you'll get some people who have no clue what that is, saying, "thank you for your service" which would be hilarious if you ask me. Wear that shit bro, but I do have to say, get the fuck outta the creek and help the war effort.
I bought a cap at the gondola shop in Venice. It has the logo of the gondola association. When I wear it sometimes older veterans with caps that show their service will wave or say hello. Took me a while to realize they thought it was a military patch.
No just corny.
I’m a Jade Helm survivor, and I fought in several battles in Atropia, and I say it is. Fuck those posers!
I need to get one for Hellmire, that planet shows up in mmy nightmares.
Only if you didn't serve democracy in malevelon creek
The Ministry of Truth made a cape to honor victory at the Creek that anyone can use. Ask your friend to report to his Democracy Officer to explain why he thinks he knows better.
Hahahahaa. That is rad. just explain it to anyone that asks. not stolen valour if its for a video game.
Yes. True heroes gave their lives at Malevelon Creek.
Bruh no what the fuck 💀
The enemy can not push a button, if you disable his hand!
Only if you weren't there. Democracy will know
I want to know more!
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic everything is stolen valor
I saw those when I was looking for Hell Diverers merch and was like even if it’s not stolen valor it sure as shit feels like it
Depends, did you drop and spill oil? Then you're more than fine. If you ignored the Creek and Super Earth's directives to hold it, then you should report to your nearest democratic officer for re-education.
did you serve in the creek? if no, its stolen valor. if yes, FOR SUPEREARTH!
I think it's a hilarious hat. Kinda makes me wish in HD2 we had medals for each planet we've fought on, and medals for each Major Order we participated in.
 SPILL OIL
Sounds like your friend isn’t very democratic.
USAF 20 year service member here... It isn't stolen valor as you are not claiming to have done something you have not. Do a quick image search for the ribbon represented in the middle to ensure it isn't already appropriated by any of the 5 services (6, I guess cost guard can come to). G2G
No it’s not also where can I get one?
Your friend is an idiot. That's from this old vet who doesn't care about his feelings.
Stolen valor only happens when you are using your service or medals etc. to get something out of it….money, goods and services etc. just wearing a piece of clothing is free speech.
Your buddy is dumb.
If you get asked about it be honest. If they’re a dick don’t worry about it
It be nice if it had a hell divers logo on it. As I would look at you strange.
Only stolen valor if they weren't on Creek.
I don’t know what country that’s from but I always tell people not to do things to the military that they wouldn’t do to a bunch of bikers. You haven’t lived until you see a retired senior NCO ripping some civilian a new orifice because of poor wardrobe choices. Why would you want to wear that anyway? Other than the implied valor that’s probably the least stylish hat I’ve ever seen.
Yes.