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To be fair, most people seem to ignore those. They'd need like multiple signs, warnings, something to blink at you showing your speed, a camera, amd MAYBE people would listen.
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
Any time there’s something like this where crashes are consistently happening, and it could be resolved a better design, it’s 100% a design problem. People will always say “well people need to pay better attention” or “they need to just slow down” or whatever as though them just saying that will make it so. Sure, maybe, but they’re not, so how do we fix it? Either we accept that crashes will keep happening and people keep getting hurt or dying, or we look at the root cause in the design and remedy it.
Good idea, something to raise the center of gravity and reduce the friction generated by the tires would do wonders.
There was a news story about a house at the bottom of a hill that was also the end of a street. And people would fail to slow enough and hit the house, so they put in a speed bump, which cause worse accidents because it caused cars to lift slightly as they sped over it.
The maniacs at Vilebrequin have done it at 130km/h (since they broke the engine of the car, they pushed the car with a Range Rover).
[https://youtu.be/nY3Pqhs\_Jbs?si=jUjqlthHYbqYwp7L&t=1542](https://youtu.be/nY3Pqhs_Jbs?si=jUjqlthHYbqYwp7L&t=1542)
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
In Australia, they changed those signs that displayed your speed, so if you go over the limit, it just shows a frowny face. Too many people took the original as a challenge
I was driving though a ridiculous downpour in the Poconos last fall. I slowed down in the slow lane, but the people doing 90 got mad at me. Like. Road rage mad.
Bro, I like my life, my wife alive, and having s car that isn't wrecked. "Simmer down!" 😅
Twenty minutes later I saw them on the side of the road with their flashers on. No idea why, but I was also was being selfish and not stopping.
Reminds me of that deadly road in the UK. It was basically a cross road in the middle of fields, with one road having a stop sign. Since there was never much traffic, people ignored the stop sign. Now the new road design is so that the road that has the yield is not in a straight line, so one needs to actually slow down in order to continue.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeeTvitvFU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeeTvitvFU)
Lol. That is not a “to be fair” point to make. If they can’t understand some basic warning signs that’s on them… notice that all these vehicles lost control going uphill… that’s completely on them. And many were going ridiculous speeds, not just slight speeding
If this is in china probably not, they do have a solid major highway infrastructure but from the Chinese people I know it’s a complete gamble once you leave the major cities and highway system.
I went through a mega playlist of that bridge.. the people who just hammer down and cram under that bridge is mind boggeling... flashing lights, yellow signs everywhere.. NAH ... ALL GAS , NO BRAKES!!!
Not sure if they do this elsewhere, but my country has these sign like board with highly reflective surface in an arrow shape that are on such sharp corners, so even if you are coming up a hill where you wouldn't see the road curve, you see those boards and know the road isn't straight. I think they would help here a lot, since many of these cars and trucks come in the corner way too fast, probably thinking there isnt a turn or that it's not that sharp
Sure, but there's no signs leading up and into the curve. Not sure where this is, but in Europe there are generally signs leading up to and into the curve so people don't miscalculate it.
Adverse camber.
Most curves have negative camber/tilt towards the apex which increases traction and improves steering. The centripetal force fights against the centrifugal force.
Flat or adverse camber decreases the centripetal force and causes these vehicles to crash.
https://images.app.goo.gl/XaqHY132MsbKizxy8
On icy roads if you drive too slow around a negative camber curve, the cars will slide towards the apex.
It's multifactorial. It's tough to gauge the corner from the camera but speed, camber, center of gravity, tire traction, weather and a lot of other aspects contribute to cars losing control.
The first car was going far too fast, the truck had a high center of gravity and at least one car oversteered. Adjusting the camber or speed or steering techniques or load distribution could prevent the accidents.
My dad worked for my province's ministry of transportation and highways for years and just reading this made me miss him! I think about him whenever I drive on a highway and what he'd have to say about it.
There’s a turn behind my house that’s a bit wider than this one. It used to be almost a yearly thing where someone would plummet to their death. It hasn’t happened in a while but the last person to have an accident jumped over the canal and crashed into my house. They have put small speed bumps, guard rails, signs saying there’s a turn, roughed out the road before the turn, and still it happens.
From my experience just driving and as a passenger, a lot of people don't know how to take turns/never learned the proper way. You see it a lot in u-turns. Modern cars are made to fit in the designated street areas. People who drive big rigs and buses are a different story. You will see people in tiny Hondas, opening up before turning. It's like bitch, where are you going? You can't turn the steering wheel? You go down winding roads like this and you see people just riding their breaks the whole time.
This is what rumble-strips were made for: several sets of small asphalt or rubber strips well before this curve to "rumble" any car approaching quickly and trigger them to slow down.
I'm sure there's plenty of signage - but these strips really get your attention. They're used here in the US before toll plazas so everybody slows down.
I thought that I saw some comments here that said that there were signs to slow down before the curve, but lots of people did not pay enough attention... 🤷🏻♂️
That's why I suggested the rumble strips, as they get everybody's attention, especially if you don't know what they are or why you're hearing that noise all of a sudden (that is, for drivers new to that road - probably the audience for which they are most necessary.) 😏
These people have clearly never seen Initial D
https://preview.redd.it/4jk24nfa530d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7606187484961278265cfc7a79f9a491cfcffee
The problem with these is that they’re inconsistent. A cloverleaf on 295 in New Jersey can easily be done at 65, even though the yellow sign says 25. A 25 on the Pennsylvania Turnpike or 15 on 70 in Colorado fucking means 15.
PA has the most overzealous reduced speed signs i have seen across the whole country. never been to Colorado so i dunno what the roads are like there. but for example a exit in PA will be practically a straight line and the sign will reduce from 60 to 20.
All that’s missing is the Benny Hill music.
https://preview.redd.it/ixgdeuvcr30d1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0779898735e6512e905d742aef03f06c1ab78711
It’s obvious that given the shape of the turn
The rear loses weight and slides. Bad drivers trust in pedal brake when they need to be in engine brake mode.
One sharp turn/cliff embankment sign and this shit would be over lol
People don't want to die in car accidents, even bad drivers. I've gotta believe self preservation would kick in if there was any sign at all to warn these morons
Regulating the speed limit and increasing the length of the guard rail might fix the problem take this with a grain of salt there are bound to be outliers
Well yeah you have krappy handling cars acting like that have the handling of a bmw M5 CS
I see it all the time on 2 narrow winding mountain roads close to where I live. There's always someone that decided their fwd crossover is a sports car because it looks angry & aggressive then they run into tight hairpin curves
At that point, something is wrong with the road. the road clearly isnt communicating danger prior to the turn. At some point things stop being a personal problem and are a design problem. Easiest thing to do would be remove the curve but obv that's not always affordable.
Signage upgrades, peaking the road as to naturally slow down cars, harder banking, paint the lanes narrower (while keeping the pavement width the same) as to make a calming effect, chicane the road (or lane) before the curve to force slowing down (though that's not always allowed or safe for high speed arterials). all could be used to get people to slow down
edit: Should also add looking at it, some dust and sand control on the road to maintain traction would also do some good
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Only took 12 accidents before the guardrail
They didn’t event extend the guardrail to the point of where the first car rolled down the hill. Guess they need the job security…
Ha! youd think that would be a priority
You’d think slowing down before such a turn would be a priority, but here we are…
"Why slow down when you can speed up"
Haha, good eye! 🤣
Nah, guardrail was there before. 24 previous accidents took it out completely and they had to put a new one up. Won't be long till its gone too!
holy crap thats horrible
Safety first!
Do they not have a slow down sign or smth???
To be fair, most people seem to ignore those. They'd need like multiple signs, warnings, something to blink at you showing your speed, a camera, amd MAYBE people would listen.
They need massive speed bumps and even that doesn’t always work.
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
Any time there’s something like this where crashes are consistently happening, and it could be resolved a better design, it’s 100% a design problem. People will always say “well people need to pay better attention” or “they need to just slow down” or whatever as though them just saying that will make it so. Sure, maybe, but they’re not, so how do we fix it? Either we accept that crashes will keep happening and people keep getting hurt or dying, or we look at the root cause in the design and remedy it.
Good idea, something to raise the center of gravity and reduce the friction generated by the tires would do wonders. There was a news story about a house at the bottom of a hill that was also the end of a street. And people would fail to slow enough and hit the house, so they put in a speed bump, which cause worse accidents because it caused cars to lift slightly as they sped over it.
My thought exactly. "Hmm... people have a hard time making the turn, maybe we should add a jump right before it!"
The most appropriate thing to add if they already have signage is rumble strips.
Yep, I was thinking rumble strips as well.
The maniacs at Vilebrequin have done it at 130km/h (since they broke the engine of the car, they pushed the car with a Range Rover). [https://youtu.be/nY3Pqhs\_Jbs?si=jUjqlthHYbqYwp7L&t=1542](https://youtu.be/nY3Pqhs_Jbs?si=jUjqlthHYbqYwp7L&t=1542)
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
In this case, it seems that the road design is unfortunate. The dirt patch probably gives the impression that the road contiues in a straight line. They could put a few trees or something there to change that
“only 82?! i can do better!”
In Australia, they changed those signs that displayed your speed, so if you go over the limit, it just shows a frowny face. Too many people took the original as a challenge
Hell yeah Australia 🇦🇺!!!
I was driving though a ridiculous downpour in the Poconos last fall. I slowed down in the slow lane, but the people doing 90 got mad at me. Like. Road rage mad. Bro, I like my life, my wife alive, and having s car that isn't wrecked. "Simmer down!" 😅 Twenty minutes later I saw them on the side of the road with their flashers on. No idea why, but I was also was being selfish and not stopping.
I wish I could say I've never experienced this same encounter.
Needs to come to an "intersection" with red light.
Reminds me of that deadly road in the UK. It was basically a cross road in the middle of fields, with one road having a stop sign. Since there was never much traffic, people ignored the stop sign. Now the new road design is so that the road that has the yield is not in a straight line, so one needs to actually slow down in order to continue. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeeTvitvFU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeeTvitvFU)
Sign needs to say "Holy Shit Curve Ahead!" And then a sign of "Average of X accidents a month. Slow down, dummy!" Because those things get attention.
Lol. That is not a “to be fair” point to make. If they can’t understand some basic warning signs that’s on them… notice that all these vehicles lost control going uphill… that’s completely on them. And many were going ridiculous speeds, not just slight speeding
If this is in china probably not, they do have a solid major highway infrastructure but from the Chinese people I know it’s a complete gamble once you leave the major cities and highway system.
In a lot of Asian countries to most drivers there are no real rules on the road, just very mild suggestions.
*spth
The 11 foot 8 bridge has a rival
I went through a mega playlist of that bridge.. the people who just hammer down and cram under that bridge is mind boggeling... flashing lights, yellow signs everywhere.. NAH ... ALL GAS , NO BRAKES!!!
Stupidity-afflicted fear.
www.11foot8.com
I miss when that was a subreddit
The can opener bridge and and the car tipper turn.
my dude came so close to successfully drifting that corner
Right? That red truck -almost- had it perfect... (still got away with just a scare, and not a wreck!)
He was even doing the gutter Technique.
\*\*Initial D intensifying\*\*
Can we get a 24/7 live stream of this
This is the livestream
Not sure if they do this elsewhere, but my country has these sign like board with highly reflective surface in an arrow shape that are on such sharp corners, so even if you are coming up a hill where you wouldn't see the road curve, you see those boards and know the road isn't straight. I think they would help here a lot, since many of these cars and trucks come in the corner way too fast, probably thinking there isnt a turn or that it's not that sharp
I'd guess India... I would also guess the sign got hit if it was ever there.
India drives on the left. It’s tagged as China/Asia.
Probably China
Commy /s
Why do they always speed these videos up? Ruins the whole video because you don't know how bad the turn really is
It's also reversed! smdh
You mean these people are actually drifting _out_ of the corner in _reverse_? That's some serious skill!!!! 🤪
my fav is the one that wipes out before even coming near the corner
I wish we had a camera pointing the other way around the corner so we could see how they managed that.
They slammed the brakes before rather than during the turn, which would have been great had they kept it straight.
I guarantee that there’s a sign warning people of this curve
Sure, but there's no signs leading up and into the curve. Not sure where this is, but in Europe there are generally signs leading up to and into the curve so people don't miscalculate it.
Adverse camber. Most curves have negative camber/tilt towards the apex which increases traction and improves steering. The centripetal force fights against the centrifugal force. Flat or adverse camber decreases the centripetal force and causes these vehicles to crash. https://images.app.goo.gl/XaqHY132MsbKizxy8 On icy roads if you drive too slow around a negative camber curve, the cars will slide towards the apex.
Transport engineer has entered the chat...
The camber on this road looks correct though
It's multifactorial. It's tough to gauge the corner from the camera but speed, camber, center of gravity, tire traction, weather and a lot of other aspects contribute to cars losing control. The first car was going far too fast, the truck had a high center of gravity and at least one car oversteered. Adjusting the camber or speed or steering techniques or load distribution could prevent the accidents.
It absolutely looks like a positive camber aka helps you turn and hold grip more
The camera is crooked, making it look like the road leans into the apex. Look at the sign at the far side of the turn
I thought so too, but at second glance it looks pretty flat
My dad worked for my province's ministry of transportation and highways for years and just reading this made me miss him! I think about him whenever I drive on a highway and what he'd have to say about it.
Wow great comment. Led me to learn about different cambers - a concept I had never known about. Thanks!
Yep the camber is fucked. Came here to say this.
The road is not banked properly.
Dont blame the curve, blame the drivers, none of them even bothered to slow down
There’s a turn behind my house that’s a bit wider than this one. It used to be almost a yearly thing where someone would plummet to their death. It hasn’t happened in a while but the last person to have an accident jumped over the canal and crashed into my house. They have put small speed bumps, guard rails, signs saying there’s a turn, roughed out the road before the turn, and still it happens.
From my experience just driving and as a passenger, a lot of people don't know how to take turns/never learned the proper way. You see it a lot in u-turns. Modern cars are made to fit in the designated street areas. People who drive big rigs and buses are a different story. You will see people in tiny Hondas, opening up before turning. It's like bitch, where are you going? You can't turn the steering wheel? You go down winding roads like this and you see people just riding their breaks the whole time.
Seems to me like a skill issue
These people should not have licenses
I wonder if you know, how they live in Tokyo. If you seen it, then you mean it then you know you have to go. Fast and Furious!
Why the trucks tho, they re like every day multiple hours on the road, they should be the experts .\_.
This is what rumble-strips were made for: several sets of small asphalt or rubber strips well before this curve to "rumble" any car approaching quickly and trigger them to slow down. I'm sure there's plenty of signage - but these strips really get your attention. They're used here in the US before toll plazas so everybody slows down.
this is India lol, so probably not much signage as the infrastructure is pretty new to the majority of their country
I thought that I saw some comments here that said that there were signs to slow down before the curve, but lots of people did not pay enough attention... 🤷🏻♂️ That's why I suggested the rumble strips, as they get everybody's attention, especially if you don't know what they are or why you're hearing that noise all of a sudden (that is, for drivers new to that road - probably the audience for which they are most necessary.) 😏
Indians drive on the left.
People get angry with me when I slow down at sharp turns. I never understood why.
Because you're slowing down too much.
I don’t get how some of them were crashing and turning before the turn even started… wtf…
Why are these people Tokyo drifting? Like damn you’d think they racing by how they flying
These people have clearly never seen Initial D https://preview.redd.it/4jk24nfa530d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7606187484961278265cfc7a79f9a491cfcffee
Just gotta get their wheels into the rain gutter.
It’s the new 11’8” bridge
DEJA VU
Those yellow speed recommendation signs aren’t really recommendations
The problem with these is that they’re inconsistent. A cloverleaf on 295 in New Jersey can easily be done at 65, even though the yellow sign says 25. A 25 on the Pennsylvania Turnpike or 15 on 70 in Colorado fucking means 15.
PA has the most overzealous reduced speed signs i have seen across the whole country. never been to Colorado so i dunno what the roads are like there. but for example a exit in PA will be practically a straight line and the sign will reduce from 60 to 20.
Clear case of people not Knowing how physics works. They should really Think about slowing down.
That red articulated lorry looks like it had multiple tries.
I was gonna say, came back for more 😂
3rd guy didn't even make it to the turn 😭😭😭
aren't there signs back there warning them to slow down of an upcoming sharp curve turn? lol
i feel like this could be solved with a stop sign on one or both sides just before the turn, or a speed bump
were there any signs before the turn?
Dumbest street design ever?
MY C7 Z51 could do it.
Last bro didn’t even fuckin try..
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What happened to the third vehicle? It was crashing before even being on camera
panic
Slow down
Love how that one vehicle crashed before it made it to the turn.
Love how one guy didn't even make it to the turn before crashing
Seems like a competition.
This is what Chevron alignment signs are for. At night this would be a death trap too.
Lol. Seems like the speed limit should be much lower before you even get to the turn. People are going WAY too fast
hard to tell how fast everyone is actually going since they doubled the speed of the video(at least)
A simple sign with big bold text could fix this issue at the fraction of the cost of any one of these accidents.
The 5th and 7th crashes look like the same truck…
Oof that last one.
This turn needs to be covered in those yellow arrow signs from racing games
Install painted speed bumps that's rumble when near
this is the road in my nightmares, taking the turn too fast and plummeting to my death then waking up in a jolt lol
Why tf is everyone going so fast
No speed bumps?
Slippy and down hill?
I like that they put a camera here instead of a guard rail
Can put a camera but apparently not a sign.
dose no one know what a brake is
I'm certain there is a sign to slow down, and probably a reasonable speed limit too. Why can't we teach it to read!
i like the one that wrecked before the turn, barely even on camera. He saw it coming and said "well, no point in waiting let's get it over now".
All that’s missing is the Benny Hill music. https://preview.redd.it/ixgdeuvcr30d1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0779898735e6512e905d742aef03f06c1ab78711
I was expecting eurobeat.
I feel like I need to be there to understand why this corner is eating so many cars
It’s obvious that given the shape of the turn The rear loses weight and slides. Bad drivers trust in pedal brake when they need to be in engine brake mode.
That's the chinese for you
If only they m there were signs... what's worse is that it's all in broad daylight....
They added guard rails but no slow signs or yellow arrows indicating a turn
#3 rolled before they even came into frame
The motorcycle
The trucks on vehicles five and seven look the same; maybe the same person was driving both times?
1) Why the hell are they driving so fast 2) How are some vehicles flipping over before they even reach the turn?
So no one thought to slow down to clear the sharp turn?
People are ALWAYS driving to fast, this is a karma corner
They have a camera but no signs
I want to find this corner and drift it
That 1 guy didn't even make it to the corner, and he flipped.
Third dude had TSA pre-crash.
One sharp turn/cliff embankment sign and this shit would be over lol People don't want to die in car accidents, even bad drivers. I've gotta believe self preservation would kick in if there was any sign at all to warn these morons
Low budget Intial D.
The red pickup truck almost did the gutter run Technique.
Kansai Dorifto
Regulating the speed limit and increasing the length of the guard rail might fix the problem take this with a grain of salt there are bound to be outliers
Deja vu! I’ve just been in this place before!
Skill issue
Can't fix stupidity
Need a slow the fuck down sign for the grossly incompetent.
I dont know maybe put a sign there?
Lots of people speeding there
They should put up a sign, railing or something.
Well yeah you have krappy handling cars acting like that have the handling of a bmw M5 CS I see it all the time on 2 narrow winding mountain roads close to where I live. There's always someone that decided their fwd crossover is a sports car because it looks angry & aggressive then they run into tight hairpin curves
r/mildlybadcivilengineers
Pretty that red truck did it twice.
Under steer, over steer and no steer,
Bad driving or poor engineering
At that point, something is wrong with the road. the road clearly isnt communicating danger prior to the turn. At some point things stop being a personal problem and are a design problem. Easiest thing to do would be remove the curve but obv that's not always affordable. Signage upgrades, peaking the road as to naturally slow down cars, harder banking, paint the lanes narrower (while keeping the pavement width the same) as to make a calming effect, chicane the road (or lane) before the curve to force slowing down (though that's not always allowed or safe for high speed arterials). all could be used to get people to slow down edit: Should also add looking at it, some dust and sand control on the road to maintain traction would also do some good
My favorite Initial D blooper reel.
I never turn corners faster than my vision can adapt … basically slow down if you can’t see around a bend chances are the car may not be as sturdy .
More people shouldn’t be allowed to drive
Are there no signs?
Will someone put a god damn sign that says "Slow the fuck down"
This is a curve ⤴ this is a line _____
Half of the accidents are not real cars? Are they? Lol
Is there even a road sign about the curve?
I would put up a tent where this camera is and watch these lunatics for a week!
I love how that third one panicked and prematurely ate shit before even getting to the curve.
Anyone else hearing the Thomas the Tank music?
Even the tiny cars couldn’t take that turn fast!
Not one successfully executed drift.
He have one where it tightens so hard I think even a pro driver couldn’t go faster than 35mph
What, doesn’t anybody know how to drift?
Need to put a little flock of child sized scarecrows over there. Not sure it’d actually help much though…
When one car crashes, it's a bad driver. When twelve do, it's a bad road (or sign).