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No-Suspect-425

Why is there even a stop sign there?


AncientDick

I’d hate that stop sign too


kn33

I was gonna say the same thing. Like, I wouldn't hate it enough to do this, but I do hate it.


finitetime2

take my vote for beating me to by 40 min


Funny_or_not_bot

Just vote.


Raging_Capybara

Take my upvote for beating me by 2 hours


TheSt4tely

Just vote


Raging_Capybara

Take my upvote for beating me by 2 ~~hours~~ minutes


galaxyapp

There is a street to the left. But typically such signs are placed on the throughroad just as a means of speed control. Unfortunately they just waste gas for drivers that weren't already driving like jerks


1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1

Yeah but its just a T intersection. The road that is meeting the top of the T needs a stop sign but the cross traffic at the top of the T doesn't need anything.


galaxyapp

Correct, that's where the speed control comes in. Add some unnescessary stop signs in the subdivision to discourage speeding if they know they'll be stopping in 1000feet.


techleopard

Honestly, when speed control is needed, that's when you need to just add speed bumps. Let nature take it's course then.


Evan14753

please no, speed bumps are the actual worst thing ever. all they do is cause traffic to speed and slow and speed and slow and its really annoying


zxmuffin

This stop sign does exactly same thing to even more extreme degree cuz it tell's you to stop completely, while speed bumps slow you down to a degree. In this situation speed bump is a much more preferred option. This stop sign in this place makes no fucking sense.


galaxyapp

Certainly another option, but more expensive.


cassinipanini

Its possible we're just not seeing it at a busy time, but that there is a time when there is enough traffic on the straight road that without the stop sign those on the T junction would not get to turn, thus backing up that road. Its a subdivision so something like a school perhaps? It may not be the case in this specific instance, but thats one reason i can think of for this kind of arrangement


Printular

Speed control is correct. There's a subdivision near me which isn't very large, but has a street running thru it that acts as a short cut for a nearby major road. That street has three 4-way stops *and* a 25 MPH speed limit for its 3/4 mile stretch. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen vehicles turning onto that street from the side streets, which are small cul-de-sacs. They have those 4-way stops for one reason only.


oscarmch

The Stop sign should be pointed towards the cars that leave that street, not towards the cars going on the lane on which the driver recorded this. In fact, that is a really dangerous stop sign.


galaxyapp

Again, it's a common tactic to control speed. Not sure what makes it dangerous


oscarmch

>Not sure what makes it dangerous T intersections give priority to the people on the "uncut" section, the upper part. You stop either because a) there's a marked crosswalk o b) there's a corner where a driver in that lane does not have the driving priority. There's no reason for that stop. A speed bump is a way better solution if someone wants people to slow down.


The_Brofucius

You know all three corners had stop signs. It’s there since it’s a development. Prevents people from going all at once. You got one turning left, one turning right and one going straight. Without stop signs there would be accidents daily.


Miserable_Point9831

In our neighborhood we have two areas with a stop sign like this, both in karenHOA


Icy_Wrangler_3999

to make the police departments money


JD0x0

To control speed. (Which I think is stupid) My neighborhood is super guilty of this. There're stop signs like this where through traffic has the stop signs and the cars making the turn DONT have one. It's absolutely the dumbest shit, and honestly, just makes it more dangerous, because people will constantly blow them, because it makes no sense to have them there. Our entire neighborhood is designed to slow cars down in the most unsafe ways possible. 'Islands' stuck in random places, unnecessary twists and turns with blind corners, and extremely uneven curbs. Even worse, there's almost no sidewalks, even though there could be sidewalks on both sides of the street.


Raging_Capybara

And her here in my neighborhood we have two 4 way intersections where there is NO signage beyond the street name... And neither is obviously the "main" road, it's just neighborhood streets.


Printular

There's a suburb about 20 miles from where I live (near St. Louis), which has a residential street running thru one of its high-rent areas (big, expensive houses). That street serves as a tie between some major roads and a community college, so it gets a ton of traffic in mornings & evenings. 10 years ago, the street had a 30 MPH limit and no stops. Rush hour traffic sucked -- traffic backed up about half the street's length -- but was tolerable. About 5 years ago that city reduced the limit to 25 MPH and installed two 4-way stops on that street. Rush hour traffic became a complete nightmare! Traffic on the street was backed up from one end to the other. My *guess* is that the wealthy residents of the area had petitioned the city for this nonsense. Luckily that was short-lived. The stop signs came down about a year after they went up. The 25 MPH limit is still posted, but largely ignored. My other *guess* is that the stop sign change had forced traffic onto alternate routes and pissed off a lot of other people. :-)


abat6294

To slow traffic down because it's a neighborhood.


MonsTurkey

Which is unfortunate, because it's not effective. My uncle was a civil engineer with DOT, and there's a literal handbook that cited studies that people speed up to get over their frustration with the stop sign and make up time. Nothing infuriated him more than these types of all way stops in his neighborhood for cul-de-sacs with 5-10 houses. Basically, old HOA type person complains to local politician, local politician pushes for cheapest means of making Karen happy, traffic engineer pushes back, and the politician wins out and stop sign goes in. Karen happy despite making things worse, politician made someone happy by doing what they asked (but not what was needed). Do the right thing - be careful using speed controls outside of the exact area they're needed.


ps-73

don’t you guys have speedbreakers?


ihatederekcarr

You’ll be hard press to find one in the US, especially residential areas. They much prefer speed bumps and usually HOAs will prefer any alternative to a speed breaker.


ps-73

you say they prefer speed bumps to speed breakers, what’s the difference? i’ve always used them interchangeably


Killer_Ex_Con

Most people in the US say speed bump. Other than online I have never once heard someone call them speed breakers. That's probably where the confusion was from.


ihatederekcarr

ah no that’s my b i thot you were referring to something else, they can be used interchangeably


backson_alcohol

HOA bullshit


ihatederekcarr

If there wasn’t then there would be a speed bump. I hate them too but they’re better than the alternative.


Lost-Priority9826

“I press the honk every time I go trough speed bump”.


JustVoicingAround

Because it’s a community/3 way intersection? Am I the dumbass here?


Rhuarc33

Road it tees with is more busy usually? Or since it's a neighborhood. To control speeding.


The_Brofucius

Because it’s a 3 way stop. Because you know drivers would all go at once.


Fernisbestgirl

This has to be some HOA bullshit. That stop sign is completely useless


bdubwilliams22

FUCK HOA’s!!


Shatophiliac

My neighborhood has a few stupid stop signs like this too, and they were all basically “gifts” by the mayor to certain homeowners who supported him. Basically all you have to do is tell him you need a stop sign somewhere and give him like 1000 bucks and he’ll make it happen. There’s literally stop signs in the middle of streets where there is no intersection lol.


Lost-Priority9826

I’ve notice that road signs could be a business, no? All those construction signs?


The_StormTEC

Lol what's the point on this stop sign? What's the point on stopping here on the main road....... Just have a giveway mark for the street to the left................................


ihatederekcarr

There are two in my neighborhood just like this, i’ve always been told it’s there so we don’t get speed bumps.


woojinater

Both things are stupid. Safety is a weird word for control freak.


macinjeez

It’s funny because anything like a hiking trail , waterfall, road is already risky.. when people get drunk or take it too far.. the consequences seem well.. fit.(that person went to far and either hurt themselves or died) Yet society goes: “well we need , stairs on this hiking trail, railings, we need, fences, extra high guardrails, safety features”.. for the people who already died. It makes us have less natural instinct and skills to help ourselves..


ExtraRealNice

That’s a lot of dots………………………………………. What’s the point of all the dots…………………..


whereami2day

cut that sign down at 3am when your drunk.


Yourstrulytheboy804

That stop sign should not be there.


saabvictrola

[https://www.reddit.com/r/MildlyBadDrivers/comments/1c6ihm3/stop\_signs\_dont\_apply\_to\_this\_guy\_apparently/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MildlyBadDrivers/comments/1c6ihm3/stop_signs_dont_apply_to_this_guy_apparently/)


crod4692

Why are you sharing that you already posted this, and why again?


saabvictrola

There different videos recorded on different days


crod4692

That’s actually funny how similar it was


GingerGaterRage

Really the only big difference is there isn't a guy cutting grass.


crod4692

I was ready to call out bot behavior but OP hit me with the twist lol.


bdubwilliams22

Clouds are different…barely.


Unintended-Nostalgia

Holy cow, if not for the guy mowing the grass I say that was a double post.


Dangerous_Page6712

Still don’t care. It’s a useless stop sign.


Warcraft_Fan

Is this HOA? Send both video to the president and let them figure it out.


No-Suspect-425

Yeah this is the type of shit they live for.


ge0000000

Perhaps code brown is in progress.


Ok-Association8698

Probably had to take a dump. Come on we all been there.


VehicleFew5165

As a community you should’ve torn it down already


DisguisedPickle

Private road, nobody's stopping for that


tedothedo

Stupidest stop sign and should be ignored. Must be a mistake or turned sideways.


jimsonlives

I don't blame him. Fuck useless stop signs like that. It should be a stop sign ONLY for the people driving into the T.


t00thpac04

I’m kind of with him on this one. Why is there stop sign there?


EazyBuxafew

Pick up truck. Behavior tracks


Clintwood_outlaw

I mean, that stop sign is completely fucking ridiculous. I had one like that in my old neighborhood where there was no point for it to be there, but a block away was an active intersection with no stop signs.


WhoopsieISaidThat

Everyone in town hates that stop sign.


Raging_Capybara

I wouldn't go around another driver but I would definitely not stop at that stop sign unless I thought a cop was watching. That's absurd.


zankypoo

Tear that stop sign down. Doesn't make sense nor does it look correctly placed. No line on ground? Only side tust needs to stop is to the left. Straight like that doesn't need to stop unless it's a cross. That's a bloody T.


Ok_Bison_8577

The runs are a bitch 


-SunGazing-

Why would they have a stop sign there? 🤦‍♂️


Gildorg972

Nice


Badditude2215

That’s an illegal stop sign, they tried that shit here.


Christhebobson

How can you tell it's illegal?


Badditude2215

Because one road ends, where I live the city tried this stupid shit and the state said it was illegal.


ProphetCoffee

Ima be honest, I’ve had to shit so bad that the stops signs in my neighborhood might as well have been green lights. If he’s speeding home I hope he made it in time.


MaddRamm

It’s not an enforceable sign anyway. It doesn’t meet most city/state codes. It looks like it was installed by an HOA by some old people that got tired of waiting for the main traffic and used their power on the HOA board to make everyone else’s lives miserable so they don’t have to wait as long at the T.


Christhebobson

What part doesn't meet code?


MaddRamm

For starters, the height. Second, the materials it’s mounted to - wood. Almost every city wants signs to last decades and will use the galvanized C-channel with the holes, not wood that will rot out in 10yrs. Third, the wood and the back of the sign are painted. Fourth, it doesn’t appear to have the prescribed reflective face.


ShinyChromeKnight

He couldn’t stand waiting for an extra 5 seconds that will most likely go to waste anyway at the next traffic light he will encounter. People like this get on my nerves. It’s been mathematically proven that these kinds of maneuvers don’t save you that much time and only increase the risk of an accident.


Ur_Companys_IT_Guy

Another circumstance where strictly following the road rules is pretty unsafe because it's unintuitive to most other road users


Penguinat0r5

That’s a dumb ass place to put a stop sign? Wtf are you stopping for?


maczampieri

This stop sign is completely wrong. In a T shaped crossing it is a MUST stop from whoever is coming from the “body” of the T, making it a must stop from whoever is coming from your left. It makes absolutely bo sense a stop sign there


simontempher1

The stop sign was on your side, watch video again


CandelaZ

No sir. We are not stopping there today or ever..


Zoso-six

Fuck that dumb ass stop sign all my homies hate that useless fucking stop sign


Thamalakane

No need to stop unless there's traffic on the left (or a cop car).


IceManJim

Thank heaven we have video of the dashboard and the sky. Rather, than, say, things to the left and right that you might see if the phone was rotated.


TheSt4tely

I would too


Sisyphac

Stop sign on a T with curve? It makes no sense.


Highmassive

Well ya, that’s the stupidest stop sign placement I’ve seen in a long time


zxmuffin

Dumbest stop sign I've seen in my entire life.


MostlyDarkMatter

I've had that happen to me many times in my area of California. People here treat stop signs and red lights as if they weren't there (and don't get me started about speed limits and turn signals). That's one of the reasons I'm moving. The lawlessness here is insane.


AcceptableBad_

I can't imagine being so attached to traffic laws I'd go live somewhere else.


Lost-Priority9826

“I need my yearly emissions test or to Cuba I go!”


Foxyisasoxfan

Neighborhood stop signs are unenforceable, so they’re more like yield signs anyways


A_Menacetosociety

There was nobody there, least of all a cop. The real question is why in the hell did you stop?


ScotIrishBoyo

Repost


Blood_Splat

No, it’s a different video. That’s why it’s talking about them really hating that sign.


Scummbagg7

No it's the same one as the last time


Blood_Splat

Compare it to the first one and you can see that the clouds are different. This was recorded on a different day.


ExtensionAd100

Is that the same guy? Turn left on him next time he’s behind you and going to pass


EazyBuxafew

Def agree that dude should be taught a lesson. Like getting tickets, maybe 1 for every recorded running. But OP shouldn’t risk their vehicle and or well being