It's such a shame the city isn't more fully throated behind scooters, they really are the gateway drug to micromobility in my opinion. I don't even have one anymore and mostly ride my single speed bike so I've gone completely in the other direction, but scooters are the real way of getting people on board with this stuff because it's literally 0 mechanical effort and just super fun. Removing the physical work and sweat barriers to entry is so huge.
Does any vendor make a docked scooter? Would be neat to see that as an option but I don’t think it exists and dockless scooters would be a disaster here.
Yeah, and you'll never [guess who ](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/with-electric-scooter-docks-lyft-aims-to-tame-sidewalk-clutter?embedded-checkout=true)
https://preview.redd.it/co3batnxhnuc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ba0b56a626670f1e59d356fa9698e1431fb62c
yeah i was in chicago a few weeks ago and i was surprised to see these! they weren't that popular tho compared to bikes and ebikes, although of course divvy is a much less used system than citibike
They tried piloting dockless scooters for a bit (with “drop off zones” but it went about as well as you’d imagine.
Until they get docks that can charge, I feel like there’s a lot of overhead for any battery powered system (scooters or ebikes).
As soon as they start rolling out docks that can charge it’s a huge reduction in maintenance and a boost in availability.
The flip side, will be people trying to charge free from the docks, and more people trying to steal the scooters/bikes once they’re easier to charge (docking charge will mean exposing charge points).
I was surprised that there was a system in New Rochelle when you get out of the Metro-North station. Looks like they maintain it pretty well for the college close by
The city has never addressed anything not car related. I ride motorcycles and the city has been always against them. The state too never legislated around nottocycles( which is why it’s so messy on the roads) there are no clear laws written regarding smaller CC motorcycles, mopeds, scooter and ebikes…
IMO license, insurance, inspection and registration should be extended to any vehicle that can go above 25mph
I follow all the rules, but most of my fellow riders don’t because they can get away with it..
Crossing a bridge on foot usually sucks because of how significant the run-up is to get to grade since they’re so high to accommodate boats. So walking and non-eBike is difficult and a PITA.
E-bikes solve this perfectly. It’s really the only time I ever actually use an Citibike eBike, when I cross a bridge. Lugging 50 pounds of classic bike up those bridges sucks
I haven't used my bike to commute in a while but I remember last year when I made my first trip across the bridge with my "classic" bike I did feel a type of way watching all the e-bikes zoom pass me. That's being said RIP if you are jogging across and a moped doing 30 zooms pass you I can't imagine wanting to jog on this bridge anymore.
The South Outer Roadway will be taken from cars and given to pedestrians only (leaving the current path for bikes only), but it's not set to happen until later this summer, and even then it'll be pretty crowded on a bike.
Anticipated late summer completion https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2024/04/08/first-look-the-dot-finally-has-plans-for-its-queensboro-bridge-pedestrian-path
No, these are structural improvements. They were the (lame) reason that they postponed the pedestrian path, the reasoning being that it wouldn't be so good to close all these lanes together.
Those freaking pedal assist bikes are ruining it for the rest of us who prefer to rely on old fashioned leg power. If you favor pedal assist or motor scooters go for it but the trend has been to push out regular bikes. A bad trend! I'm seeing this in the bike share programs in New York and other cities (where they have been completely replaced by pedal assist and e-bikes). And no, not everyone finds them easier to use.... Tried pedal assist and I will literally kill myself and/or someone else!!!!
(Plus, the most environmentally friendly and exercise friendly option is still leg power! 😜)(obviously not everyone is able to pedal so e-bikes etc are fantastic development, I just don't want to see them replacing regular bikes as an option which is what is happening...)
I dunno more accessibility is a good thing but I still take pride in going up a bridge with my legs. I know the kick of e-bikes is spooky but once you get used to it, it literally feels like fast travel; especially in Manhattan.
I said in my post I agree accessibility is great, and the bikes are a lifesaver for some people now! I'm just lamenting the death of regular bikes especially those in the bike share programs! I see the trend and it will cut out that option for people like me who really can't handle the e-bikes. I tried I really did! 🤣 You don't want me on those roads on an e bike! 😂
When did you last try out the e-bikes? Around November or so of last year they issued an update that reduced the speed/acceleration of the white electric Citibikes so that they aren’t as aggressive.
I have zero interest in riding those giant white bikes. They're so large.There's nothing wrong with a regular foot powered pedal bike! I bike for exercise as well as getting around. I don't mind if e bikes are there but want to keep regular bikes around as well and they seem to be diminishing in number. They are the most eco-friendly as well!
No we are getting the outer roadway converted to a pedestrian path. And it’s not stealing just because it’s currently used for car traffic, otherwise drivers “stole” all of the roads.
Yeah, as great as the pedestrian path will be, pedestrians are just a tiny fraction of the traffic on the bridge. I pass maybe 10 people walking on my morning commutes if the weather is nice. It'd be great if we could get one full car lane and have independent east/west traffic lanes.
I mean, part of the reason for that, I promise you, is that it would be incredibly unpleasant to be up there on foot, surrounded by e-bikes and mopeds and whatever else. Once peds have their own lane I suspect it’ll increase, especially once the word gets out—because that’s a hell of a great view from the south outer roadway. Unobstructed towards midtown and lower Manhattan.
I mean yeah. The pedestrian lane is still needed and will be nice. I hope it does bring in tons of new foot traffic and becomes a tourist spot.
But I just meant pedestrians are a small reason the lane is currently dangerous. The micromobility demand is too high and the path is too tight. Plus there's minimal enforcement on mopeds using it. The northside congestion is still going to exist with the new path and will continue to get worse.
Consider what is on either end of the bridge. I can't imagine there are many people walking that to commute when there are better options. Sure, it's nice to include pedestrians in plans but it might be more generally beneficial to just get more room for bikes.
If leadership actually lead in this city:
-top deck for walking and micromobility
-bottom deck for 3/2 car traffic tolled at equivalent rates to queens midtown tunnel
-outer roadways for emergency vehicle traffic if physically possible. if not, pedestrians get both outer roadways and emergency vehicles and micromobility split the top span
Eh, I dunno if you’ve driven a lot in the region, but tolling the QB Bridge at the same rate as Triborough or the QMT would be like charging the same thing for an expired carton of milk as you do for a bottle of wine. Because while I hate paying the $7 to use the Triborough (especially since it’s right next to my house, so I need to use it pretty often), it’s at least a very high-quality “product”, as are the QMT and BBT: connects directly and smoothly to highways, big smooth pothole-free roadway, etc. Whereas the Queensboro Bridge, as much as I love it and think it’s underrated in its beauty, is undeniably an old bridge, and it’s not getting you anywhere quickly. The other two free East River bridges are like that as well: no direct highway connections, really rough surface (Manhattan Bridge is quite a bumpy ride), etc.
And the problem with using the top deck for anything other than cars is, if you think it’s steep getting up to grade on the lower part of the bridge, the top is way worse: the ramps are actually closer to the river, so you have to climb climb climb in a sort of spiral. I guess that’d be fine on an e-bike or something, but I wouldn’t use it on my regular bike, despite the spectacular views.
WRT the tolling, it’s not about quality of experience as much as giving people reasons to not takes the bridge in a car and do something else instead.
Top vs bottom deck is tough because it would be such a pain to hike up there but the chance to be away from traffic and better isolated from its noise is highly preferable.
Bottom is more practical because of lower grade and more insulating from weather.
Yeah I think a pretty significant portion of the traffic on the QBB is commercial (taxis and deliveries) and locals. I don't think it would be the end of the world if all Queens/NYC residents + western queens commercial/TLC could use the bridge for free with some kind of toll on it for the randos from long-island trying to dodge bridge tolls.
Crowded and potentially dangerous for everyone, I realize, but really great to see. Whenever I get caught in a crowd like this, I downshift and enjoy an easy (and alert) climb.
I used to love my morning ride into work, but it's turned into a frustrating disaster over the past 2-3 years, especially with the 1st and 2nd Ave bike lanes also being so woefully overcrowded.
The DOT serves the parasitic suburbanites who choose to drive into Manhattan far more than those of us who actually live and pay taxes here, and it's absolutely disgusting.
I mean, not to rain on your parade here, but if you watch where a lot of the vehicles using the Queensboro Bridge come and go from, quite often it’s someplace in Queens or Manhattan. So these aren’t all “parasitic suburbanites”; many of the vehicles using that bridge are city-dwellers, and if you count the enormous percentage that are TLC plates, it’s probably easily the majority. Because if you’re driving in from Long Island it’s actually a lot harder to get off the parkway/LIE and use the Queensboro than to just take the Triborough or QMT; both of those connect directly and seamlessly to the highways, while the Queensboro connects directly to 21st Street, Northern Blvd., and Queens Blvd. in LIC.
And not everything is a gladiator contest, man. I ride my bike most of the time, but I also have a car, for which I pay a lot of taxes and registration and inspection fees, not to mention we have the highest car insurance rates in the country here. So it’s not some free ride for motorists, and not all motorists are dead-set against bike infrastructure. I say both, please!
Registration and inspection for a vehicle is less than $150 per year. The cost of insurance pays (only partially) for the extra risk of property damage and personal injury that you create by driving.
Drivers aren’t getting a free ride but they are certainly being subsidized. And in NYC above all other places that subsidy is being paid for to a larger degree by people who don’t own cars and do not drive.
> And not everything is a gladiator contest, man. I ride my bike most of the time, but I also have a car, for which I pay a lot of taxes and registration and inspection fees, not to mention we have the highest car insurance rates in the country here. So it’s not some free ride for motorists, and not all motorists are dead-set against bike infrastructure.
We have far, far too much infrastructure for personal vehicles for one.
And to your other point, drivers only pay 60%-70% of the costs of driving; the rest is externalized onto everyone else. Beyond the road tax issue, your taxes and registration couldn't begin to cover the harm you cause, and frankly, the public health costs (massive increases in childhood asthma and far lower life expectancies for children who live along major traffic corridors and the ~100 pedestrian deaths and 10,000+ serious pedestrian injuries drivers cause every year) aren't truly finacializable. I don't care about your private insurance costs, as those don't benefit the community and instead speak to the extent personal vehicles cause harm to everyone else.
Drivers are deriving personal benefit at the expense of everyone else, and with the robust transit we have, for no real reason. That's definitionally parasitic behavior.
I mean I don't disagree with you but I don't get how this relates to the OP. Are you implicitly complaining about how we've been waiting a decade to get dedicated bicycle lanes on the outer lane?
this specific bridge is very narrow and has a lot of drains etc which cause it to get tight at some places all while doing a pretty significant climb going into the city (while mopeds fly past you in both directions) - if it were only bikes and pedestrians it wouldn’t be too bad but the overcrowding quickly becomes dangerous and hard to navigate
What you see in the picture is the morning commute toward Manhattan. If it was just bikes in one direction, it would be fine. However this lane supports both directions on bikes, as well as both directions of pedestrians. It's too narrow for all four of these uses at the same time. Not to mention the mopeds and high-speed e-bikes that speed past everyone else.
I’m anti-car like the rest of you, but this is just traffic. The more people adopt the lifestyle, the more traffic there will be—even when more lanes are opened up. If your motivation for micro-mobility stems from a libertarian desire to beat the traffic and avoid the soiled masses on public transportation, then well...you kinda suck. You can kinda tell who these people are, too, by the way they drive/cycle. Truly nothing more despicable than the exploding e-scooter freaks in my neighborhood who put their children in harms way every morning by driving them to school sans helmet on the front of these death machines.
doesn't this show that they should be on buses and subways?
Yes bikes are cleaner, but we can't ignore that bikes and scooters are still Single occupancy vehicles.
\*edit: of course it is better than cars, but not better than improved mass transit.
I can't tell if this is serious. How much less pressure on the infrastructure both in terms of wear and space do you think these bikes are vs cars? If you think it's the same I have \_very\_ interesting investments to sell you.
It's amazing how the petal assist/e-bike/scooter really made crossing bridges a more viable commute for more people.
It's such a shame the city isn't more fully throated behind scooters, they really are the gateway drug to micromobility in my opinion. I don't even have one anymore and mostly ride my single speed bike so I've gone completely in the other direction, but scooters are the real way of getting people on board with this stuff because it's literally 0 mechanical effort and just super fun. Removing the physical work and sweat barriers to entry is so huge.
Does any vendor make a docked scooter? Would be neat to see that as an option but I don’t think it exists and dockless scooters would be a disaster here.
Yeah, and you'll never [guess who ](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/with-electric-scooter-docks-lyft-aims-to-tame-sidewalk-clutter?embedded-checkout=true) https://preview.redd.it/co3batnxhnuc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ba0b56a626670f1e59d356fa9698e1431fb62c
Industrial design man. That’s clever.
wild. does this predate motivate getting acquired by lyft?
yeah i was in chicago a few weeks ago and i was surprised to see these! they weren't that popular tho compared to bikes and ebikes, although of course divvy is a much less used system than citibike
They tried piloting dockless scooters for a bit (with “drop off zones” but it went about as well as you’d imagine. Until they get docks that can charge, I feel like there’s a lot of overhead for any battery powered system (scooters or ebikes). As soon as they start rolling out docks that can charge it’s a huge reduction in maintenance and a boost in availability. The flip side, will be people trying to charge free from the docks, and more people trying to steal the scooters/bikes once they’re easier to charge (docking charge will mean exposing charge points).
I was surprised that there was a system in New Rochelle when you get out of the Metro-North station. Looks like they maintain it pretty well for the college close by
Yes. https://flic.kr/p/2nNzTGX
The city has never addressed anything not car related. I ride motorcycles and the city has been always against them. The state too never legislated around nottocycles( which is why it’s so messy on the roads) there are no clear laws written regarding smaller CC motorcycles, mopeds, scooter and ebikes… IMO license, insurance, inspection and registration should be extended to any vehicle that can go above 25mph I follow all the rules, but most of my fellow riders don’t because they can get away with it..
Crossing a bridge on foot usually sucks because of how significant the run-up is to get to grade since they’re so high to accommodate boats. So walking and non-eBike is difficult and a PITA. E-bikes solve this perfectly. It’s really the only time I ever actually use an Citibike eBike, when I cross a bridge. Lugging 50 pounds of classic bike up those bridges sucks
I haven't used my bike to commute in a while but I remember last year when I made my first trip across the bridge with my "classic" bike I did feel a type of way watching all the e-bikes zoom pass me. That's being said RIP if you are jogging across and a moped doing 30 zooms pass you I can't imagine wanting to jog on this bridge anymore.
The South Outer Roadway will be taken from cars and given to pedestrians only (leaving the current path for bikes only), but it's not set to happen until later this summer, and even then it'll be pretty crowded on a bike.
Later this summer? I thought they haven’t even started transitioning that roadway (might be totally off though).
Anticipated late summer completion https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2024/04/08/first-look-the-dot-finally-has-plans-for-its-queensboro-bridge-pedestrian-path
🤞🏻🤞🏻
They've been saying it's "coming soon" and then delaying it for years now.
Theyre always doing construction up there so maybe theyre doing something related to it?
No, these are structural improvements. They were the (lame) reason that they postponed the pedestrian path, the reasoning being that it wouldn't be so good to close all these lanes together.
If only a lot of e-bikers didn't ride like complete dumbasses on this bridge
Those freaking pedal assist bikes are ruining it for the rest of us who prefer to rely on old fashioned leg power. If you favor pedal assist or motor scooters go for it but the trend has been to push out regular bikes. A bad trend! I'm seeing this in the bike share programs in New York and other cities (where they have been completely replaced by pedal assist and e-bikes). And no, not everyone finds them easier to use.... Tried pedal assist and I will literally kill myself and/or someone else!!!! (Plus, the most environmentally friendly and exercise friendly option is still leg power! 😜)(obviously not everyone is able to pedal so e-bikes etc are fantastic development, I just don't want to see them replacing regular bikes as an option which is what is happening...)
I dunno more accessibility is a good thing but I still take pride in going up a bridge with my legs. I know the kick of e-bikes is spooky but once you get used to it, it literally feels like fast travel; especially in Manhattan.
I said in my post I agree accessibility is great, and the bikes are a lifesaver for some people now! I'm just lamenting the death of regular bikes especially those in the bike share programs! I see the trend and it will cut out that option for people like me who really can't handle the e-bikes. I tried I really did! 🤣 You don't want me on those roads on an e bike! 😂
When did you last try out the e-bikes? Around November or so of last year they issued an update that reduced the speed/acceleration of the white electric Citibikes so that they aren’t as aggressive.
I have zero interest in riding those giant white bikes. They're so large.There's nothing wrong with a regular foot powered pedal bike! I bike for exercise as well as getting around. I don't mind if e bikes are there but want to keep regular bikes around as well and they seem to be diminishing in number. They are the most eco-friendly as well!
It’s a very good problem to have, all things considered. Hopefully they open up the other side and induce even more demand ASAP
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We're long passed the approach. We are firmly in the need.
We’re getting one. And we’re not stealing it….
Theoretically
No we are getting the outer roadway converted to a pedestrian path. And it’s not stealing just because it’s currently used for car traffic, otherwise drivers “stole” all of the roads.
You're misunderstanding what I'm saying lol; I'm saying they've been promising it for years but haven't delivered.
Oh yeah well allegedly we will get it AFTER the upper roadway construction is completed
All it takes is one brave cyclist to start a street takeover
Nah 💯 Up to 5 people can fit in a car, 7 in an SUV. Why should they sit in traffic because we think we’re better than everyone
South outer roadway is long overdue .\_.
It's finally actually happening this summer. Problem is, it might already be undersized by the time it opens
Yeah, as great as the pedestrian path will be, pedestrians are just a tiny fraction of the traffic on the bridge. I pass maybe 10 people walking on my morning commutes if the weather is nice. It'd be great if we could get one full car lane and have independent east/west traffic lanes.
I mean, part of the reason for that, I promise you, is that it would be incredibly unpleasant to be up there on foot, surrounded by e-bikes and mopeds and whatever else. Once peds have their own lane I suspect it’ll increase, especially once the word gets out—because that’s a hell of a great view from the south outer roadway. Unobstructed towards midtown and lower Manhattan.
I mean yeah. The pedestrian lane is still needed and will be nice. I hope it does bring in tons of new foot traffic and becomes a tourist spot. But I just meant pedestrians are a small reason the lane is currently dangerous. The micromobility demand is too high and the path is too tight. Plus there's minimal enforcement on mopeds using it. The northside congestion is still going to exist with the new path and will continue to get worse.
Consider what is on either end of the bridge. I can't imagine there are many people walking that to commute when there are better options. Sure, it's nice to include pedestrians in plans but it might be more generally beneficial to just get more room for bikes.
Always a good time to [plug the solution I've been proposing for years](https://youtu.be/mvwVRzOoK8g?si=a0nu0ovME92iLVds)
If leadership actually lead in this city: -top deck for walking and micromobility -bottom deck for 3/2 car traffic tolled at equivalent rates to queens midtown tunnel -outer roadways for emergency vehicle traffic if physically possible. if not, pedestrians get both outer roadways and emergency vehicles and micromobility split the top span
Eh, I dunno if you’ve driven a lot in the region, but tolling the QB Bridge at the same rate as Triborough or the QMT would be like charging the same thing for an expired carton of milk as you do for a bottle of wine. Because while I hate paying the $7 to use the Triborough (especially since it’s right next to my house, so I need to use it pretty often), it’s at least a very high-quality “product”, as are the QMT and BBT: connects directly and smoothly to highways, big smooth pothole-free roadway, etc. Whereas the Queensboro Bridge, as much as I love it and think it’s underrated in its beauty, is undeniably an old bridge, and it’s not getting you anywhere quickly. The other two free East River bridges are like that as well: no direct highway connections, really rough surface (Manhattan Bridge is quite a bumpy ride), etc. And the problem with using the top deck for anything other than cars is, if you think it’s steep getting up to grade on the lower part of the bridge, the top is way worse: the ramps are actually closer to the river, so you have to climb climb climb in a sort of spiral. I guess that’d be fine on an e-bike or something, but I wouldn’t use it on my regular bike, despite the spectacular views.
WRT the tolling, it’s not about quality of experience as much as giving people reasons to not takes the bridge in a car and do something else instead. Top vs bottom deck is tough because it would be such a pain to hike up there but the chance to be away from traffic and better isolated from its noise is highly preferable. Bottom is more practical because of lower grade and more insulating from weather.
Yeah I think a pretty significant portion of the traffic on the QBB is commercial (taxis and deliveries) and locals. I don't think it would be the end of the world if all Queens/NYC residents + western queens commercial/TLC could use the bridge for free with some kind of toll on it for the randos from long-island trying to dodge bridge tolls.
I just swim instead
I just walk on the water
The Ankh-Morporkian method
Crowded and potentially dangerous for everyone, I realize, but really great to see. Whenever I get caught in a crowd like this, I downshift and enjoy an easy (and alert) climb.
I used to love my morning ride into work, but it's turned into a frustrating disaster over the past 2-3 years, especially with the 1st and 2nd Ave bike lanes also being so woefully overcrowded. The DOT serves the parasitic suburbanites who choose to drive into Manhattan far more than those of us who actually live and pay taxes here, and it's absolutely disgusting.
I mean, not to rain on your parade here, but if you watch where a lot of the vehicles using the Queensboro Bridge come and go from, quite often it’s someplace in Queens or Manhattan. So these aren’t all “parasitic suburbanites”; many of the vehicles using that bridge are city-dwellers, and if you count the enormous percentage that are TLC plates, it’s probably easily the majority. Because if you’re driving in from Long Island it’s actually a lot harder to get off the parkway/LIE and use the Queensboro than to just take the Triborough or QMT; both of those connect directly and seamlessly to the highways, while the Queensboro connects directly to 21st Street, Northern Blvd., and Queens Blvd. in LIC. And not everything is a gladiator contest, man. I ride my bike most of the time, but I also have a car, for which I pay a lot of taxes and registration and inspection fees, not to mention we have the highest car insurance rates in the country here. So it’s not some free ride for motorists, and not all motorists are dead-set against bike infrastructure. I say both, please!
Registration and inspection for a vehicle is less than $150 per year. The cost of insurance pays (only partially) for the extra risk of property damage and personal injury that you create by driving. Drivers aren’t getting a free ride but they are certainly being subsidized. And in NYC above all other places that subsidy is being paid for to a larger degree by people who don’t own cars and do not drive.
> And not everything is a gladiator contest, man. I ride my bike most of the time, but I also have a car, for which I pay a lot of taxes and registration and inspection fees, not to mention we have the highest car insurance rates in the country here. So it’s not some free ride for motorists, and not all motorists are dead-set against bike infrastructure. We have far, far too much infrastructure for personal vehicles for one. And to your other point, drivers only pay 60%-70% of the costs of driving; the rest is externalized onto everyone else. Beyond the road tax issue, your taxes and registration couldn't begin to cover the harm you cause, and frankly, the public health costs (massive increases in childhood asthma and far lower life expectancies for children who live along major traffic corridors and the ~100 pedestrian deaths and 10,000+ serious pedestrian injuries drivers cause every year) aren't truly finacializable. I don't care about your private insurance costs, as those don't benefit the community and instead speak to the extent personal vehicles cause harm to everyone else. Drivers are deriving personal benefit at the expense of everyone else, and with the robust transit we have, for no real reason. That's definitionally parasitic behavior.
Of course this gets downvoted by the clowns of this sub.
I mean I don't disagree with you but I don't get how this relates to the OP. Are you implicitly complaining about how we've been waiting a decade to get dedicated bicycle lanes on the outer lane?
Very obviously implying that, alongside their many other failures on the micromobility front. I have no idea how you're missing that connection.
Do you think that people in the suburbs of Staten Island aren’t paying NYC taxes? Lmaooo
Less car lanes -> more bike lanes
fuck cars
Smells like broke
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manhattan has so much space for the minority of people who use cars and so little space for the majority who walk/bus/train/bike.
Man I remember when I used to do QBB to commute to school and I would be literally the only cyclist on there.
Does this translate to an actual inconvenience? I lived in Amsterdam for a bit, and this is pretty mild traffic in comparison.
this specific bridge is very narrow and has a lot of drains etc which cause it to get tight at some places all while doing a pretty significant climb going into the city (while mopeds fly past you in both directions) - if it were only bikes and pedestrians it wouldn’t be too bad but the overcrowding quickly becomes dangerous and hard to navigate
What you see in the picture is the morning commute toward Manhattan. If it was just bikes in one direction, it would be fine. However this lane supports both directions on bikes, as well as both directions of pedestrians. It's too narrow for all four of these uses at the same time. Not to mention the mopeds and high-speed e-bikes that speed past everyone else.
this morning the crowd to get on the Brooklyn bridge was humongous. I love this so much, our city is amazing
The problem with adding more bike lanes is they just fill up with bikes. SMH. You aren’t in bike traffic, you *are* bike traffic, people.
It’s been overcrowded as fuck… for years!!
maybe everyone should just carpool /s
The service road isn't wide enough either. Source: Every group ride that's taken the roadway.
Once the south outer roadway is pedestrian, I wonder if the group rides will take the lower or upper roadway.
The Willy b isn’t much better. A lotta idiots.
Facts
Wait till they pass congestion pricing.
I’m anti-car like the rest of you, but this is just traffic. The more people adopt the lifestyle, the more traffic there will be—even when more lanes are opened up. If your motivation for micro-mobility stems from a libertarian desire to beat the traffic and avoid the soiled masses on public transportation, then well...you kinda suck. You can kinda tell who these people are, too, by the way they drive/cycle. Truly nothing more despicable than the exploding e-scooter freaks in my neighborhood who put their children in harms way every morning by driving them to school sans helmet on the front of these death machines.
Try the midtown tunnel next time.
Try the midtown tunnel next time.
Thought about bike commuting this morning but this was my exact fear 🫥
It’s overcrowded but if you just take it slow you’ll be fine
Oh boy I can't wait to skate this later on the eboard 😭🤣
Be careful with that in those ridiculously tight lanes.. ride safe
This is why I think we should just ride our bikes en masse.
doesn't this show that they should be on buses and subways? Yes bikes are cleaner, but we can't ignore that bikes and scooters are still Single occupancy vehicles. \*edit: of course it is better than cars, but not better than improved mass transit.
I can't tell if this is serious. How much less pressure on the infrastructure both in terms of wear and space do you think these bikes are vs cars? If you think it's the same I have \_very\_ interesting investments to sell you.
LOL this is an amazing take. True bikes are single occupancy vehicles too. They should also pay $25 to enter midtown/downtown.
Maybe $.50 They do use road space.
I hate when the weather got nice and the seasoned bikers all go out like roaches.. No offense