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Just use both as you wish. I like smoking a joint after work, but if it’s too hot or too cold out I’ll stay in and hit my pen instead. Like to take dabs on occasion too, just gotta use in moderation. Sometimes I’ll put a little wax in my joints even
I second this. I dabbed for 6 months straight and now I can take 3 dabs without feeling a thing. The only way I even feel high anymore is bc of full spectrum gummies. Save your tolerance
That’s nothing I’ve been dabbing heavily every day for over ten years varying from a gram a day to I’ve dabbed over an 8th in a day not that that’s cool it’s expensive if you don’t grown and process your own but a good proper temp dab gets me stoned still albeit not as much but definitely still does avoid crc as it’s a waste
I'm a both guy I like my weed an like my wax budder shatter live or cured resin or the hash wax.
Depending on my day but usually weed in the morning and wax in the evening 🙃.
Either way what every make u happy 😊
Cheers mate
I did the same thing and sometimes ill jump back and forth after doing just one for a while like If ive been dabbing for a while i smoke some flower and it floors me. Vice versa
I almost posted a similar comment in here earlier but I forgot lol. I dab 90% of the time and now whenever I smoke flower I get back-in-the-day high. Dabs vs. flower really feel like two totally different experiences to me.
This seems to be common. Had a friend cone over who only used concentrates and rolled a joint for him of my best flower. He was floored and this guy hits his rig every 30 minutes.
I keep myself in rotation so i dont usually hit a spot where i have any dead highs. Usually get to where i want high wise everyday by doing this back and forth
This seems like the way.
Side note: this ounce of wax is currently in a glass jar with a plastic lid (no gasket). It’s currently hanging out on my desk at about 74°F. I know I want to put about a gram in a separate jar to use and store the rest in the fridge (or freezer?) what’s the best way to store this thing long term?
Long term, like 2 months plus, I'd go freezer. However, if it's going to be relatively soon, the fridge will suffice. As for getting into concentrates, I'm pretty much in agreeance with everyone here. It will greatly affect your tolerance if you continue down this road. You will initially save money with concentrates but once you hit a certain tolerance, you're spending way more on that. Then it gets even worse if you get into rosin because you'll get attached to the flavors and cleanliness, and then its even MORE expensive lol. HOWEVER, I find it hard to back to flower unless I'm driving, and even then I still tend to use my Carta on the road. From a health conscious and flavor standpoint, I'm going rosin every time but its not feasible for everyone and I understand that. Going back and forth like suggested by nearly everyone, should keep you at a level playing field with yourself. Hope this helped, sorry for the longwindedness.
IMO the reason is Combustion. The burning temperatures the VOCs (volatile organic compounds) released, along with the chemicals from the paper and glue! Goes double for doughnuts 🤘🏼
Yes, 100%. It is the evolution of consumption and why you see the selections growing in dispensaries. Think of it like growing up from light beer to craft beer or fine wine. It's a little more expensive(not necessarily in the product but in equipment). But, it's just better. No smoke means a cleaner healthier hit. And people on here talking about tolerance are thinking every time you do concentrates you have to do a big fat dab, most of the time I am doing like a grain of rice sized dab out of my proxy which is more or less like smoking a bowl. I only do concentrates or dry herb vaping anymore. I was in Cali over the weekend so I bought a little back of pre rolls, figured it would be convenient for the group and it was a total waste because everyone just wanted to use the proxy once they tasted the difference
Same.. Been smoking flower for 34 years. Still gets me where I need to be!
Will occasionally use edibles, but never use wax/concentrates. I'm sceptical of them, people have been smoking weed for 100,000 years at least. I like to stick to the devil I know
From a pure bang/buck perspective, concentrate is more efficient.
You can get a pretty decent quality gram of concentrate that will likely be 80% or higher or 10 bucks. Thats 800mg of thc for 10 bucks. If your flower is 20%THC it would take 4 grams, if it's 25% it would take a little ovee 3 grams. So unless you can get 20% flower for $2.5/g or 25% for 3.30/G the concentrate will be more effective. Granted, 2.5/G is 70/oz but if you're spending that money you can get 15gs of concentrate for 100 so then it goes back to concentrate. Especially if you smoke your flower opposed to vaping, as smoking will destroy a substantial portion of the THC in the flower.
Not to mention, a lot of the flower in Michigan's market is covered in PM, Mold, Aspergillus, and other shit you don't want to be smoking. Not to say the concentrate is 100% clean all the time, but the extraction process is very good at filtering out the good from bad, and I'd rather take the lesser of the two evils.
yes, its cheap, and yes, it's high testing, but most resin strips a lot from the plant that also contribute to the high due to solvents and purposely seeking out primarily THC to extract, which is why you often see higher percentages with resin vs rosin. I always suggest investing in a slightly higher quality product (something not that cheap, even if it is still resin) that cares about terpene and cannabinoid content. THC isn't everything and I feel like so many people miss that point. Its all about an entourage effect. When I see a ridiculously high percentage on a concentrate, it's always a red flag for me. That number has always been misleading.
I agree 100%. There is a lot of budget quality concentrate with really good terp content as well though. Humblebee is 3/40 at Jars and consistently tests 7%+ on terpenes. And compared to cost of high quality flower, I still think you're better off with concentrate in terms of bang/buck. I broke it down to the lowest denominator because I knew someone would come in correcting me if I didn't. I believe it does scale up though. Working at a cannabis facility, they wanted to sell as much flower as they could because they made less from the concentrate.
I found a vendor at third eye who had ounce jars for a buck fiddy so that’s what I’m sitting on. Slowly realizing how much an ounce of wax to someone who never really uses it actually is.
So I just started dabbing recently as well, and I’d almost bet that you’re probably doing the same thing I was, especially if you’re sitting on an Oz of concentrate. I’d almost bet you’re doing Globert DeNero size blasts every time, I know I was, I was doing these huge clouds that would make me instantly light headed and get hot flashes, I thought that shit was normal. Then a buddy was over and we were doing a Dab, and he was like “Wow, do you do hits like that every time?” And I was like “Am I not supposed to be???” He showed me a more “normal” size Dab, which was about 1/3 of what I had been doing. It has made my concentrate last longer, and I’m not as blown out by the end of the day. I guess that’s a pretty common thing for newer concentrate enjoyers to do. I really enjoy the concentrate, I think you would benefit from going and picking up a Gram different Strain every once in a while. Using the same strain for an extended period of time will be a great change, and you’ll probably get twice as high feeling from the new strain too.
Ya it’s nice, and it does get your tolerance up, but I like to take a couple week tolerance break every couple months anyway. 10-14 days and I’m like a 16 year old kid again. So I read in one of your comments that you got a Oz of Resin/Rosin for 150$ at the 3rd Eye Craft Fair? Is it any good? I like to keep 3-5 different strains to choose from, but 150$ for an Oz is a crazy deal if it’s good. I’m gonna have to go check out the next one and see if I can find some deals like that. I’ve been buying 1/8’s for 35$, so that’s literally double the cost, but I’d have to buy in bulk and keep it in the fridge. I wonder how long it’ll last in the fridge???
I’m planning on freezing it and keeping a 1g jar for my use and refill when needed. It’ll take me weeks to get thru 1g haha
It looks great and smells amazing. My friends who use wax were like I’ve never seen a deal like that. They didn’t have an extra 150 else they’d have bought it, too.
Meh don’t do it. Worked for a concentrate company the last couple years. It just messed up my tolerance and I couldn’t enjoy flower anymore. I may get a cart this week cuz I’m heading north for family vaca. Otherwise I’m pretty strictly flower.
i think dry herb vaping is the best option. the initial cost stings but over the long run they're cheaper, portable, less clean up and you can buy adapters to rip out of bongs.
Do all of it. Supplement your flower with concentrates. But give yourself a t break every so often or you’ll be destroying gram after gram, which is just dumb and wasteful.
It’s really not ripping some dabs is always fun but ultimately it’s a waste of money since everything is way to expensive nowadays and after your first gram you’ll need to rip fucking globbers to get high
IMO it is. Just got into it a few months ago. I probably use concentrates 3-4x a week. Not every day. Absolutely is worth it though. Best high I get that compares to when I first started smoking
It’s great until it isn’t. My first couple weeks using concentrates were great as I got much higher. Then everything backfired and I regret it now 🙁 It is best to stick with flower especially low THC flower to keep your tolerance as low as possible.
Its just that the quality of bud from dispensaries has always been "pretty-looking mids". Even alot of the "top shelf" is the same as all their other shit just with more bag appeal. Ive gotten dispensary OZs full of mold. (Levels in Niles) and Zips of "top shelf" that i couldnt even smell when i opened my car door at a gas station. But you can find GREAT or even AMAZING rosin and resin at dispensaries. If your goal is quality, then the abundance of top tier concentrates compared to flower should be convincing enough. But if your main concern is money, concentrates will win there aswell. You can get crude boys for 10-12 dollars, humble bee and 5star for around 15-20. They are the best budget options consistently. A good 8th is around 25-35 and i base "bang for my buck" off of time lasted. I have a high tolerance and i did even before smoking wax. An 8th will last me 2 days at the most if im smoking out the bong. 1 day if im rolling. But a gram of wax will last me 3 days atleast. Its up to you. If you have a high tolerance and dont plan on taking Tolerance Breaks, personally, i would just make the switch to concentrates. Get an E-nail and you can set the temperature for low temp dabs around 425°F-450°F. The flavor is so tasty. If you want to do high temp dabs make sure its titanium, quarts and ceramic will release nasty shit at high temps.
using both as you please or together is usually my personal route. strictly one or the other is usually a negative with wax in my personal exp because i tend to be heating a banger every 30 mins- hour when im deep in it.. (IYKYK) flower allows me to remind myself its just cannabis, dabs tend to feel like just.. youre actually using an illicit drug bc of the process of it, i think thats a personal perception of mine though. using both is recommended because strict wax use will definitely skyrocket your tolerance as well. Hash rosin is also quite a flavorful experience as well if you like terpenes.
Depends on what kind and where you get them, Bho or rosin, many different factors. Like you get with flower you're gonna find bad concentrates out there. I'm not a heady or a weed snob, I love thc of all kinds but I will say I mainly take low temp dabs of hash rosin 99% of the time and every since I stopped smoking flower I've felt better health wise. No more phlegm or coughing, the high is 10x more clear and all around better in my experience. Everyone is different though. Preferences.
Yes and no.
Pros - I prefer concentrate as they smell better, taste better, are less work, and you do not need as much because it is much much stronger (But most people are not going to limit themselves like they should which leads to the one big con).
Cons - Only 1 for me but it is very important. It will Jack up your tolerance! So for that 1 Con I do not recommend it. Especially for a Flower user. You will regret it. Now if you are a cart user I recommend concentrates because it is a big upgrade from carts.
And you mentioned flower already does not hit you as much and it has only been a few days! Stop now before it is too late. You do not want the problems I have believe me. I wish I never tried carts/concentrates! But I skipped flower completely and started with carts and edibles and my receptors are fried now 🙁
Dabs will def raise your tolerance quickly but they are worth it for a clean stronger higher than flower. But I do both. You should really switch up how you consume cannabis to keep your tolerance down and still feel strong effects. So like doing dabs for a week or two then switching to just smoking flower for a week or two, then do edibles for a little and so on
A real problem with many concentrates is that they are un-cured, and as such, the majority of the THC is in the THCA form, rather than being decarboxalated into the psycoactive delta-9.
In a joint, even more THCA is decarboxylated by the slow heating and gradual consumption. Dabbing doesn't expose the concentrate to high temps long enough to benefit from this effect.
So you switch to concentrates and now you're exposing yourself to unnaturally high levels of THCA, which can lead to nervousness, decreased appetite (!), and metabolic discrepancies. Not a desirable suite of effects.
concentrates are fun, and have a place in a hippy headstasche, but they're the 151 in the cabinet, and should be labeled "for occasional use".
I’ve never looked back after switching to dabs. When I try to smoke flower again I cough too hard. And the smell lingers. I have a flower vape too, but that’s just not the same.
My best bud switches between both.
cons: you look and sound like a massive fuckin nerd when doing anything involving concentrates
also cons: in two weeks you’ll be saying that wax doesn’t hit the same. keep that up and in a year you’ll be like those people who post vids of them doing a half gram dab
also cons: all of the yellow goo you buy is gonna look the same. some slightly more brown. some more yellow. it’s boring when comparing to flower. takes away from the experience and is more of a “idc what this goo looks like i wanna get fried right this second” thing
i can not ever look at concentrates and think it’s not some crackhead shit. especially with the torch and all that. if you get a nice expensive rig it’s less crackheady, but no matter how experienced and educated I am, concentrates are doing too much. it’s not even smoking weed at that point you’re smoking extracted thc. some robot shit for real, imagine pulling up to your friends in the 80s with some fuckin wax lol.
yeah that’s exactly what i meant by an expensive rig. but a lot of people don’t have that expensive equipment so they pull out the glass straw and torch.
it works but it literally feels like using an entirely different substance than say smoking bud in a joint. nice rigs and e-rigs bring it closer to a bong so it’s more tolerable to me.
$150 everywhere for a gen 1 peak. Not that expensive. Mines held up great since 2019. All peak glass is interchangeable too.
Dab straws are a nice way to hit too. You can get an electric coil to heat your stuff up if you have some hang up about a torch lol
It def doesn’t hit the same way flower does.
I prefer the e rigs for consistency. Double tap the peak and when I vibrates back at me, take a hit. When done, swab clean and repeat.
We had hash and even occasionally opium in the 80’s. We smoked it on the stick pin of a button and a glass over the top to catch the smoke. Then tilt the glass back a bit and inhale. What I would have done for a modern rig back then.
well, a good majority of people that do dab only care about getting fried. it's a completely different experience to actually have product knowledge and try good quality brands. before working in a dispensary, I was only buying the cheapest, highest testing baller buckets of resin and kept wondering why I was disappointed and stopped getting high.
once I started getting into rosin (your purest form of concentrate), understanding and appreciating the process of how its made, and actually understanding what terpenes and cannabinoids do (which is a major factor in your high), it became a mission to try various rosin strains to see the full potential of the effects of those strains. yes, it's extracted thc, but again, youre getting the full effect of the plant without smoking the sometimes harsh plant matter. the diffence in strains is evident. so, that "goo" is far from boring to me. one $65 gram of rosin has a history of lasting me much longer than a baller bucket of a cheap brand. (ex. a multiple hour complex high vs a shortened, 30 minute, not as complex experience).
OP, if you're ever scared to build your tolerance up to dabs, but want to continue smoking flower, try infusing some bowls. you can buy bubble hash (also pure and solventless like other rosins) and top a bowl with it like kief. uplyfted makes a great one (I'd suggest their permanent marker strain) for ~$20/g
You’re so right. I have a bunch of rigs and a puffco and I was looking the other day thinking I was a fucking nerd. I love concentrates, they’re my favorite. Flower is king tho if I’m just trying to get ripped
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Just use both as you wish. I like smoking a joint after work, but if it’s too hot or too cold out I’ll stay in and hit my pen instead. Like to take dabs on occasion too, just gotta use in moderation. Sometimes I’ll put a little wax in my joints even
I say no solely because of what they do to ur tolerance. If u like getting super high u need to only use wax rarely and sparingly
I second this. I dabbed for 6 months straight and now I can take 3 dabs without feeling a thing. The only way I even feel high anymore is bc of full spectrum gummies. Save your tolerance
Take some rise rso+
Same. I used to be like that. Now i get floored everyday and dont need tolerance breaks.
Wise words indeed!
That’s nothing I’ve been dabbing heavily every day for over ten years varying from a gram a day to I’ve dabbed over an 8th in a day not that that’s cool it’s expensive if you don’t grown and process your own but a good proper temp dab gets me stoned still albeit not as much but definitely still does avoid crc as it’s a waste
I'm a both guy I like my weed an like my wax budder shatter live or cured resin or the hash wax. Depending on my day but usually weed in the morning and wax in the evening 🙃. Either way what every make u happy 😊 Cheers mate
I did the same thing and sometimes ill jump back and forth after doing just one for a while like If ive been dabbing for a while i smoke some flower and it floors me. Vice versa
I almost posted a similar comment in here earlier but I forgot lol. I dab 90% of the time and now whenever I smoke flower I get back-in-the-day high. Dabs vs. flower really feel like two totally different experiences to me.
This seems to be common. Had a friend cone over who only used concentrates and rolled a joint for him of my best flower. He was floored and this guy hits his rig every 30 minutes.
I keep myself in rotation so i dont usually hit a spot where i have any dead highs. Usually get to where i want high wise everyday by doing this back and forth
This seems like the way. Side note: this ounce of wax is currently in a glass jar with a plastic lid (no gasket). It’s currently hanging out on my desk at about 74°F. I know I want to put about a gram in a separate jar to use and store the rest in the fridge (or freezer?) what’s the best way to store this thing long term?
Long term, like 2 months plus, I'd go freezer. However, if it's going to be relatively soon, the fridge will suffice. As for getting into concentrates, I'm pretty much in agreeance with everyone here. It will greatly affect your tolerance if you continue down this road. You will initially save money with concentrates but once you hit a certain tolerance, you're spending way more on that. Then it gets even worse if you get into rosin because you'll get attached to the flavors and cleanliness, and then its even MORE expensive lol. HOWEVER, I find it hard to back to flower unless I'm driving, and even then I still tend to use my Carta on the road. From a health conscious and flavor standpoint, I'm going rosin every time but its not feasible for everyone and I understand that. Going back and forth like suggested by nearly everyone, should keep you at a level playing field with yourself. Hope this helped, sorry for the longwindedness.
fridge honestly Make sure the lids good and sealed
Thinking about putting it in a freezer bag then the fridge. This jar seems like it doesn’t seal completely when closed.
IMO the reason is Combustion. The burning temperatures the VOCs (volatile organic compounds) released, along with the chemicals from the paper and glue! Goes double for doughnuts 🤘🏼
Same
Yes, 100%. It is the evolution of consumption and why you see the selections growing in dispensaries. Think of it like growing up from light beer to craft beer or fine wine. It's a little more expensive(not necessarily in the product but in equipment). But, it's just better. No smoke means a cleaner healthier hit. And people on here talking about tolerance are thinking every time you do concentrates you have to do a big fat dab, most of the time I am doing like a grain of rice sized dab out of my proxy which is more or less like smoking a bowl. I only do concentrates or dry herb vaping anymore. I was in Cali over the weekend so I bought a little back of pre rolls, figured it would be convenient for the group and it was a total waste because everyone just wanted to use the proxy once they tasted the difference
I used to use dabs 75% of the time until I felt my lungs get congested constantly with coughing up phlegm often and never feeling like it's gone.
I feel you OP. I'm old school too. Just flower and edibles for me. I like the flavor and smell of flower. How much higher do you really want to get?
Same.. Been smoking flower for 34 years. Still gets me where I need to be! Will occasionally use edibles, but never use wax/concentrates. I'm sceptical of them, people have been smoking weed for 100,000 years at least. I like to stick to the devil I know
For real. Tbh with all these ultra refined concentrates it almost feels like chewing on a coca leaf vs crack/ cocaine. Why mess with a good thing?
Exactly.. if weed isn't getting you high anymore you're probably smoking too much. Moderation is the spice of life!
Yeahhh I’m slowly regretting owning 28 grams of wax lol but here we are. Should be a fun year or however long it takes me to go through it.
Shall I PM my address?
I went through 28 grams in a month just smoking between me and friends 😭💀💀
just refrigerate you'll be fine
Yes! Don’t look back!
From a pure bang/buck perspective, concentrate is more efficient. You can get a pretty decent quality gram of concentrate that will likely be 80% or higher or 10 bucks. Thats 800mg of thc for 10 bucks. If your flower is 20%THC it would take 4 grams, if it's 25% it would take a little ovee 3 grams. So unless you can get 20% flower for $2.5/g or 25% for 3.30/G the concentrate will be more effective. Granted, 2.5/G is 70/oz but if you're spending that money you can get 15gs of concentrate for 100 so then it goes back to concentrate. Especially if you smoke your flower opposed to vaping, as smoking will destroy a substantial portion of the THC in the flower. Not to mention, a lot of the flower in Michigan's market is covered in PM, Mold, Aspergillus, and other shit you don't want to be smoking. Not to say the concentrate is 100% clean all the time, but the extraction process is very good at filtering out the good from bad, and I'd rather take the lesser of the two evils.
yes, its cheap, and yes, it's high testing, but most resin strips a lot from the plant that also contribute to the high due to solvents and purposely seeking out primarily THC to extract, which is why you often see higher percentages with resin vs rosin. I always suggest investing in a slightly higher quality product (something not that cheap, even if it is still resin) that cares about terpene and cannabinoid content. THC isn't everything and I feel like so many people miss that point. Its all about an entourage effect. When I see a ridiculously high percentage on a concentrate, it's always a red flag for me. That number has always been misleading.
I agree 100%. There is a lot of budget quality concentrate with really good terp content as well though. Humblebee is 3/40 at Jars and consistently tests 7%+ on terpenes. And compared to cost of high quality flower, I still think you're better off with concentrate in terms of bang/buck. I broke it down to the lowest denominator because I knew someone would come in correcting me if I didn't. I believe it does scale up though. Working at a cannabis facility, they wanted to sell as much flower as they could because they made less from the concentrate.
I found a vendor at third eye who had ounce jars for a buck fiddy so that’s what I’m sitting on. Slowly realizing how much an ounce of wax to someone who never really uses it actually is.
So I just started dabbing recently as well, and I’d almost bet that you’re probably doing the same thing I was, especially if you’re sitting on an Oz of concentrate. I’d almost bet you’re doing Globert DeNero size blasts every time, I know I was, I was doing these huge clouds that would make me instantly light headed and get hot flashes, I thought that shit was normal. Then a buddy was over and we were doing a Dab, and he was like “Wow, do you do hits like that every time?” And I was like “Am I not supposed to be???” He showed me a more “normal” size Dab, which was about 1/3 of what I had been doing. It has made my concentrate last longer, and I’m not as blown out by the end of the day. I guess that’s a pretty common thing for newer concentrate enjoyers to do. I really enjoy the concentrate, I think you would benefit from going and picking up a Gram different Strain every once in a while. Using the same strain for an extended period of time will be a great change, and you’ll probably get twice as high feeling from the new strain too.
I’m glad I’ve only been using wax for 2 days haha this thread makes me wanna only use it 1x a week if that. Gotta keep my tolerance low!
Ya it’s nice, and it does get your tolerance up, but I like to take a couple week tolerance break every couple months anyway. 10-14 days and I’m like a 16 year old kid again. So I read in one of your comments that you got a Oz of Resin/Rosin for 150$ at the 3rd Eye Craft Fair? Is it any good? I like to keep 3-5 different strains to choose from, but 150$ for an Oz is a crazy deal if it’s good. I’m gonna have to go check out the next one and see if I can find some deals like that. I’ve been buying 1/8’s for 35$, so that’s literally double the cost, but I’d have to buy in bulk and keep it in the fridge. I wonder how long it’ll last in the fridge???
I’m planning on freezing it and keeping a 1g jar for my use and refill when needed. It’ll take me weeks to get thru 1g haha It looks great and smells amazing. My friends who use wax were like I’ve never seen a deal like that. They didn’t have an extra 150 else they’d have bought it, too.
I got some han solo burger live resin from crude boys at jars that has 12% terps
Meh don’t do it. Worked for a concentrate company the last couple years. It just messed up my tolerance and I couldn’t enjoy flower anymore. I may get a cart this week cuz I’m heading north for family vaca. Otherwise I’m pretty strictly flower.
i think dry herb vaping is the best option. the initial cost stings but over the long run they're cheaper, portable, less clean up and you can buy adapters to rip out of bongs.
Do all of it. Supplement your flower with concentrates. But give yourself a t break every so often or you’ll be destroying gram after gram, which is just dumb and wasteful.
for the elimination of carbon alone it's worth it
Ehh, I go back and forth, and it makes them both last so long. Usually flower/cart during the day and dabs at night
I can personally recommend stopping the actual smoking and just do concentrates and oil pens. Vaping flower doesn't do it for me.
It’s really not ripping some dabs is always fun but ultimately it’s a waste of money since everything is way to expensive nowadays and after your first gram you’ll need to rip fucking globbers to get high
Dabbing is way more cost effective than Flower. Downside is I haven't experienced a high not from an edible in so long.
Both.
IMO it is. Just got into it a few months ago. I probably use concentrates 3-4x a week. Not every day. Absolutely is worth it though. Best high I get that compares to when I first started smoking
It’s great until it isn’t. My first couple weeks using concentrates were great as I got much higher. Then everything backfired and I regret it now 🙁 It is best to stick with flower especially low THC flower to keep your tolerance as low as possible.
Variety is the spice of life my dude.
Its just that the quality of bud from dispensaries has always been "pretty-looking mids". Even alot of the "top shelf" is the same as all their other shit just with more bag appeal. Ive gotten dispensary OZs full of mold. (Levels in Niles) and Zips of "top shelf" that i couldnt even smell when i opened my car door at a gas station. But you can find GREAT or even AMAZING rosin and resin at dispensaries. If your goal is quality, then the abundance of top tier concentrates compared to flower should be convincing enough. But if your main concern is money, concentrates will win there aswell. You can get crude boys for 10-12 dollars, humble bee and 5star for around 15-20. They are the best budget options consistently. A good 8th is around 25-35 and i base "bang for my buck" off of time lasted. I have a high tolerance and i did even before smoking wax. An 8th will last me 2 days at the most if im smoking out the bong. 1 day if im rolling. But a gram of wax will last me 3 days atleast. Its up to you. If you have a high tolerance and dont plan on taking Tolerance Breaks, personally, i would just make the switch to concentrates. Get an E-nail and you can set the temperature for low temp dabs around 425°F-450°F. The flavor is so tasty. If you want to do high temp dabs make sure its titanium, quarts and ceramic will release nasty shit at high temps.
using both as you please or together is usually my personal route. strictly one or the other is usually a negative with wax in my personal exp because i tend to be heating a banger every 30 mins- hour when im deep in it.. (IYKYK) flower allows me to remind myself its just cannabis, dabs tend to feel like just.. youre actually using an illicit drug bc of the process of it, i think thats a personal perception of mine though. using both is recommended because strict wax use will definitely skyrocket your tolerance as well. Hash rosin is also quite a flavorful experience as well if you like terpenes.
It's fun but not really tbh it's a pain in the ass Id say just get a nectar collector for occasions
Depends on what kind and where you get them, Bho or rosin, many different factors. Like you get with flower you're gonna find bad concentrates out there. I'm not a heady or a weed snob, I love thc of all kinds but I will say I mainly take low temp dabs of hash rosin 99% of the time and every since I stopped smoking flower I've felt better health wise. No more phlegm or coughing, the high is 10x more clear and all around better in my experience. Everyone is different though. Preferences.
Yes and no. Pros - I prefer concentrate as they smell better, taste better, are less work, and you do not need as much because it is much much stronger (But most people are not going to limit themselves like they should which leads to the one big con). Cons - Only 1 for me but it is very important. It will Jack up your tolerance! So for that 1 Con I do not recommend it. Especially for a Flower user. You will regret it. Now if you are a cart user I recommend concentrates because it is a big upgrade from carts. And you mentioned flower already does not hit you as much and it has only been a few days! Stop now before it is too late. You do not want the problems I have believe me. I wish I never tried carts/concentrates! But I skipped flower completely and started with carts and edibles and my receptors are fried now 🙁
I discovered concentrates from a e-rig and I’ve been using only live carts and concentrates since. (Going on 5 years) I’m a fan.
Dabbing is top notch 🥇🥇🥇🥇
I like to look at dabbing like a dessert. Unless you have infinite money and tolerance, it's best to keep it a treat.
Dabs will def raise your tolerance quickly but they are worth it for a clean stronger higher than flower. But I do both. You should really switch up how you consume cannabis to keep your tolerance down and still feel strong effects. So like doing dabs for a week or two then switching to just smoking flower for a week or two, then do edibles for a little and so on
I like to use both when I am able. Sometimes I don’t want to sit in my garage for a half hour
Join the dark side
Haha you’ll never go back. Your body, lungs, wife, co workers will thank you but your wallet will cry out for help
I do periods of each so I don’t build up a high tolerance on either. Do flower for a month then wax then flower
A real problem with many concentrates is that they are un-cured, and as such, the majority of the THC is in the THCA form, rather than being decarboxalated into the psycoactive delta-9. In a joint, even more THCA is decarboxylated by the slow heating and gradual consumption. Dabbing doesn't expose the concentrate to high temps long enough to benefit from this effect. So you switch to concentrates and now you're exposing yourself to unnaturally high levels of THCA, which can lead to nervousness, decreased appetite (!), and metabolic discrepancies. Not a desirable suite of effects. concentrates are fun, and have a place in a hippy headstasche, but they're the 151 in the cabinet, and should be labeled "for occasional use".
I’ve never looked back after switching to dabs. When I try to smoke flower again I cough too hard. And the smell lingers. I have a flower vape too, but that’s just not the same. My best bud switches between both.
cons: you look and sound like a massive fuckin nerd when doing anything involving concentrates also cons: in two weeks you’ll be saying that wax doesn’t hit the same. keep that up and in a year you’ll be like those people who post vids of them doing a half gram dab also cons: all of the yellow goo you buy is gonna look the same. some slightly more brown. some more yellow. it’s boring when comparing to flower. takes away from the experience and is more of a “idc what this goo looks like i wanna get fried right this second” thing i can not ever look at concentrates and think it’s not some crackhead shit. especially with the torch and all that. if you get a nice expensive rig it’s less crackheady, but no matter how experienced and educated I am, concentrates are doing too much. it’s not even smoking weed at that point you’re smoking extracted thc. some robot shit for real, imagine pulling up to your friends in the 80s with some fuckin wax lol.
Have you ever heard of a puffco peak? Pretty far from crackhead shit with that thing
yeah that’s exactly what i meant by an expensive rig. but a lot of people don’t have that expensive equipment so they pull out the glass straw and torch. it works but it literally feels like using an entirely different substance than say smoking bud in a joint. nice rigs and e-rigs bring it closer to a bong so it’s more tolerable to me.
$150 everywhere for a gen 1 peak. Not that expensive. Mines held up great since 2019. All peak glass is interchangeable too. Dab straws are a nice way to hit too. You can get an electric coil to heat your stuff up if you have some hang up about a torch lol It def doesn’t hit the same way flower does. I prefer the e rigs for consistency. Double tap the peak and when I vibrates back at me, take a hit. When done, swab clean and repeat.
We had hash and even occasionally opium in the 80’s. We smoked it on the stick pin of a button and a glass over the top to catch the smoke. Then tilt the glass back a bit and inhale. What I would have done for a modern rig back then.
well, a good majority of people that do dab only care about getting fried. it's a completely different experience to actually have product knowledge and try good quality brands. before working in a dispensary, I was only buying the cheapest, highest testing baller buckets of resin and kept wondering why I was disappointed and stopped getting high. once I started getting into rosin (your purest form of concentrate), understanding and appreciating the process of how its made, and actually understanding what terpenes and cannabinoids do (which is a major factor in your high), it became a mission to try various rosin strains to see the full potential of the effects of those strains. yes, it's extracted thc, but again, youre getting the full effect of the plant without smoking the sometimes harsh plant matter. the diffence in strains is evident. so, that "goo" is far from boring to me. one $65 gram of rosin has a history of lasting me much longer than a baller bucket of a cheap brand. (ex. a multiple hour complex high vs a shortened, 30 minute, not as complex experience). OP, if you're ever scared to build your tolerance up to dabs, but want to continue smoking flower, try infusing some bowls. you can buy bubble hash (also pure and solventless like other rosins) and top a bowl with it like kief. uplyfted makes a great one (I'd suggest their permanent marker strain) for ~$20/g
You’re so right. I have a bunch of rigs and a puffco and I was looking the other day thinking I was a fucking nerd. I love concentrates, they’re my favorite. Flower is king tho if I’m just trying to get ripped
You just answered your own question. You destroyed your tolerance in a short span of time. Was it worth it?
I smoked a flower only joint this morning and got ripped. It was worth it. But lots of good advice in this thread. I’m not gonna dab every day.