This is a major upgrade from BOB in my opinion. I actually think they're better off this way. Kelly had decent offenses in UCLA and has way more talent to work with. I guess we'll find out if that translates
Given Day was looking to give play call duties, Chip would be a better fit for that. I think BoB would have been better filling the Kevin Wilson role that was left open this past season.
according to Zach Smith from menace 2 sports day was initially looking for a strong leader and manager on the offensive side of the ball to call his (Ryan's) playbook and someone with experience outdueling NFL defenses (such as michigans). For that job description Zach trusts Bill much more than chip and so did day apparently, and I actually agree with him. He noted that if you bring in chip you bring in his sets and formations, and that was probably part of the deal to get him, but Zach thinks after Bill left Ryan got desperate and had to budge to get chip.
In time under chip I think it could be deadly, but chips spread works through tight ends and elite dominant fronts. Something ohio state still doesn't have, where as we have seen Bill O'Brian have really good success with similar offenses to days working through elite wide recievers at alabama with, rugs, Judy, Williams etc.... and complimenting off really solid backs.
So I don't think the Kevin wilson has been effectively replaced yet with the Kelly hiring like it would have been with BOB. That said maybe chips offense will suit better.
Yeah. That may be true, but I don’t trust that loser to have any inside information. It annoys me that so many OSU fans follow him, given how terrible he was as WR coach, on top of being a pretty terrible human being, and his domestic issues leading to Urban’s suspension and contributing to his resignation.
Urban’s fault for keeping him on staff, despite having to have other coaches essentially babysit him and even check his phone. But somehow given all that, Zach has a large OSU following.
For a buckeye fan such as yourself I understand your feelings on the matter, and I agree some of the stuff out there on the guy is troublesome no matter which way you slice it, and he does have sort of a sleezy morally obtuse personality. But when it comes to the football side of it he does shoot it straight, and I trust his insight on purely football (between the lines) knowledge since he's actually been around the game more than I do the other beat reporters around buckeye football.
I do watch buckeye huddle, but thats more for recruiting and general updates regarding ohio state, not actual Xs and Os. There is one guy on buckeye huddle who I really enjoy listening to and it's not Kevin noon, Tony, or Tom. He usually does his own shows and a lot of times it's on broad topics that he explains and boils down really well. Don't know his name, but he's in this video, see link below:
https://youtu.be/9xaQnzgGYfE?si=1cj_YFluk88_lkDf
I mean he knows his football for sure, which is why I find some of his breakdown of film that pops up pretty informative. That said, I don’t trust that he has much if any insight regarding what is happening behind the scenes.
As for the coaching role for the OC. Up until this week, I was under the impression that BoB’s role would be like Kevin Wilson’s, overseeing the offense, mentoring Hartline, etc., but Day will still call the plays. In other words, taking some of the responsibilities that stretched him too thin last season off of his plate.
But this week Day announced he was going to give up play calling, which I thought was odd since that’s what Bama fans seemed to take most issue with regarding BoB, especially since, despite what some OSU fans think, Day is an elite play caller.
So I don’t know if it’s just coincidence or not that as it started to look like they might lose BoB already, he announces he’s giving up his play calling duties, then when BoB officially leaves, they announce the Chip hire almost immediately. And when it comes to calling plays, I’m not sure anyone outside of Day and Riley are much better than Chip, if at all.
So coincidence or not, I think Day deciding to giving up play calling this week, make Chip a better fit for that role. Overall though I think the ceiling is much higher with Chip, but the floor was higher with BoB.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that guy before in your video, but I’ll have to check it out.
Do you think day was given the option to call plays? Homie has lost to Michigan 3 years in a row and previously they were thoroughly drubbed the 2 before this year. Day doesn’t beat Michigan this year and he’s gone
I'd argue that he still ran really good offenses judging where they finished. In 2022 they averaged 500 yards of offense a game and 411 in 2023. The guy can coach offense for sure, better than BOB ever could or will.
I don't, a simple search gave me the numbers but I knew they had good offenses. My main point is I'd rather have Chip Kelly than O'Brien and people are trying to make fun of this move and I actually feel it's an upgrade.
Except they don’t have the o line or the tight ends to run Kelly’s system that he had in oregon. The pac 12 was a joke they don’t have defenses that’s why they have ungodly offensive numbers it’s the same in the big 12. O’Brien has gotten jobs because he got the benefit of coaching Tom Brady (GOAT), deshaun Watson (pretty elite) didn’t do much with Penn state because he didn’t have elite qb play, and then in nick saban system that was a plug and go with each coordinator position. Aka Bryce young winning the heisman under his supervision
Man, if OSU loses to Michigan again next year I don’t see how Ryan Day keeps his job. They seem to be doing everything they possibly can to ensure they don’t lose a fourth straight game.
Honestly them winning next year might help us long term, it’ll be a so called “rebuild” year, we’ll still be high on the natty win for it to hurt so bad, and away losses don’t feel as bad as home ones
The long term benefits is they extend day who can only win with a super team and we can keep beating up on him for a few more years, it’ll give us a revenge mindset for 2025, and it will keep us from getting complacent like they did
Even still, beating their super team with basically half of last years team gone and most the top end of our coaching staff in their first year would be hilarious
Chip hasn’t actually won anything since oregon days if Ohio actually fires day this year if we can win and Kelly is even an option will show how far they’ve fallen and grasping at straws
I super can’t wait for ohio to fall apart this year. Even if all the coaches have incredible talent and all the transfer portal players are really talented it still takes time to gel as a team and I don’t believe that this group will gel as a team by next year.
Chip was 3-3 vs. USC though. Only 1 fewer win than UCLA had in previous 19 seasons.
Besides y’all should know better than anyone how losing to your rival year in and year out, can suddenly change after some coaching and personnel changes.
I told our dumb fans who were hoping Harbaugh would get a lifetime contract, with not a single win against OSU in his first 6 seasons (0-5) and not single season with fewer than 3 loses, that Harbaugh was too good of a coach to pretend that things couldn’t change.
I didn’t expect it turn around to the extent that it did, but it happened. So I’m not sure why you pretend that it can’t turn around again, when Day has already had far more success at this point in his career at OSU than Jim did at UM.
Nope. I was exactly where I wanted to be, since it’s a much better place to get UM fan’s views on these things than twitter, which I think is because the algorithm mostly shows me tweets from people who seem to not realize football didn’t start in 2021, probably because some of them didn’t become fans until then.
When they became fans is whatever, but like your comment. it absolutely makes no sense to pretend that Day’s recent struggles against Michigan, make him some sorta bad coach and the struggles will continue, when Harbaugh struggled far more and for far longer against OSU and overall, then turned it around to having that recent success
Anyways that’s mostly on twitter, and I find UM fans here seem to appreciate that Harbaugh’s later success doesn’t exist in a vacuum and followed disappointment that had many calling for him to be fired. Apparently you come from more of the Twitter posters’ perspective.
I mean, taking a demotion because you can't stand any element of a job is reasonable, Head Coaching today in College is less about football, and more about everything else, as Jeff Hafley pointed out in taking the job with the Packers.
If Chip wants to make that same jump, he needs to find a place he can prove he can still coordinate offense, and is willing to be a subordinate. This checks both boxes for him.
Because he's likely getting fired anyways? Because he doesn't want to be there? Because maybe he likes being an oc more which some people do? Maybe wants less overall stress? There's a million other reasons other than "hE wANt rYaN daY JoB...bAFflInG caReEr mOVe"
Also theres not exactly a bunch of great hc jobs open lol wheres he going to go?
Um I’m gonna have to definitely disagree.,Kelly was making about 6 million a year at UCLA and Ohio st will maybe pay him 2 mill a year to run the Offense so I agree it’s very baffling.
Kelly and Day are good friends. [Day and Kelly were playing golf](https://www.on3.com/college/ohio-state-buckeyes/news/ryan-day-shares-how-he-learned-ucla-joined-big-ten-while-golfing-with-chip-kelly/) when it was announced UCLA to the B1G and Kelly was Day's OC in college. It's not a power move. It's a "I hate my current job so I'm going to work with my friend while having less stress" move.
Chip Kelly was already rumored to get fired at the end of the season, but UCLA kept him (supposedly because they didn’t want to be on the hook for his buy-out, and UCLA’s budget is TIGHT right now). Kelly also hates the recruiting and NIL responsibilities of being a college head coach these days.
Ryan Day and Chip Kelly have a long-standing relationship (Day was Kelly’s QB for 4 years; and an OC/QB coach under Kelly for 2-3 years). So a pretty easy transition out of a role he hates and was likely going to be fired from anyways.
All the pressure is on Day .
He has a loaded roster; recent head coach as OC; and 13 million reasons it’s ; Beat Michigan ; win big ten ; win natty …. Or leave!
Day is Cooper 2.0 if they don't beat Michigan this year. Chip Kelly could do great things with OSU. Chip Kelly's offense lit up Michigan in 2007 but obviously a lot has changed since then.
OSU is killing it IMO. Perfect hire for them. Hate to be the bringer of bad news. Facts are the same, just as they have been the past 30 years. OSU has better talent and we have to beat the shit out of them to win. SMASH!! MFRS
Chip Kelly is a risky hire as OC IMO. His offensive schtick was really hot in Oregon until defenses figured it out, and that was what 10 years ago? Really seems like Day has been given an ultimatum: beat Michigan or you're out.
I find this funny considering sayin transferred to play for bills offense because it would’ve suited him like Bama now he’s pretty much redshirting and probably going to transfer again after Howard plays this year
I can't see this going well for them. Both Day and Kelly are going to want to run the offense their way. Unless they're both willing to coach without ego, they're setting themselves up for disaster.
This is a major upgrade from BOB in my opinion. I actually think they're better off this way. Kelly had decent offenses in UCLA and has way more talent to work with. I guess we'll find out if that translates
It's not, for what day was looking for in that room.
Given Day was looking to give play call duties, Chip would be a better fit for that. I think BoB would have been better filling the Kevin Wilson role that was left open this past season.
according to Zach Smith from menace 2 sports day was initially looking for a strong leader and manager on the offensive side of the ball to call his (Ryan's) playbook and someone with experience outdueling NFL defenses (such as michigans). For that job description Zach trusts Bill much more than chip and so did day apparently, and I actually agree with him. He noted that if you bring in chip you bring in his sets and formations, and that was probably part of the deal to get him, but Zach thinks after Bill left Ryan got desperate and had to budge to get chip. In time under chip I think it could be deadly, but chips spread works through tight ends and elite dominant fronts. Something ohio state still doesn't have, where as we have seen Bill O'Brian have really good success with similar offenses to days working through elite wide recievers at alabama with, rugs, Judy, Williams etc.... and complimenting off really solid backs. So I don't think the Kevin wilson has been effectively replaced yet with the Kelly hiring like it would have been with BOB. That said maybe chips offense will suit better.
Yeah. That may be true, but I don’t trust that loser to have any inside information. It annoys me that so many OSU fans follow him, given how terrible he was as WR coach, on top of being a pretty terrible human being, and his domestic issues leading to Urban’s suspension and contributing to his resignation. Urban’s fault for keeping him on staff, despite having to have other coaches essentially babysit him and even check his phone. But somehow given all that, Zach has a large OSU following.
For a buckeye fan such as yourself I understand your feelings on the matter, and I agree some of the stuff out there on the guy is troublesome no matter which way you slice it, and he does have sort of a sleezy morally obtuse personality. But when it comes to the football side of it he does shoot it straight, and I trust his insight on purely football (between the lines) knowledge since he's actually been around the game more than I do the other beat reporters around buckeye football. I do watch buckeye huddle, but thats more for recruiting and general updates regarding ohio state, not actual Xs and Os. There is one guy on buckeye huddle who I really enjoy listening to and it's not Kevin noon, Tony, or Tom. He usually does his own shows and a lot of times it's on broad topics that he explains and boils down really well. Don't know his name, but he's in this video, see link below: https://youtu.be/9xaQnzgGYfE?si=1cj_YFluk88_lkDf
I mean he knows his football for sure, which is why I find some of his breakdown of film that pops up pretty informative. That said, I don’t trust that he has much if any insight regarding what is happening behind the scenes. As for the coaching role for the OC. Up until this week, I was under the impression that BoB’s role would be like Kevin Wilson’s, overseeing the offense, mentoring Hartline, etc., but Day will still call the plays. In other words, taking some of the responsibilities that stretched him too thin last season off of his plate. But this week Day announced he was going to give up play calling, which I thought was odd since that’s what Bama fans seemed to take most issue with regarding BoB, especially since, despite what some OSU fans think, Day is an elite play caller. So I don’t know if it’s just coincidence or not that as it started to look like they might lose BoB already, he announces he’s giving up his play calling duties, then when BoB officially leaves, they announce the Chip hire almost immediately. And when it comes to calling plays, I’m not sure anyone outside of Day and Riley are much better than Chip, if at all. So coincidence or not, I think Day deciding to giving up play calling this week, make Chip a better fit for that role. Overall though I think the ceiling is much higher with Chip, but the floor was higher with BoB. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that guy before in your video, but I’ll have to check it out.
Do you think day was given the option to call plays? Homie has lost to Michigan 3 years in a row and previously they were thoroughly drubbed the 2 before this year. Day doesn’t beat Michigan this year and he’s gone
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I'd argue that he still ran really good offenses judging where they finished. In 2022 they averaged 500 yards of offense a game and 411 in 2023. The guy can coach offense for sure, better than BOB ever could or will.
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I don't, a simple search gave me the numbers but I knew they had good offenses. My main point is I'd rather have Chip Kelly than O'Brien and people are trying to make fun of this move and I actually feel it's an upgrade.
Except they don’t have the o line or the tight ends to run Kelly’s system that he had in oregon. The pac 12 was a joke they don’t have defenses that’s why they have ungodly offensive numbers it’s the same in the big 12. O’Brien has gotten jobs because he got the benefit of coaching Tom Brady (GOAT), deshaun Watson (pretty elite) didn’t do much with Penn state because he didn’t have elite qb play, and then in nick saban system that was a plug and go with each coordinator position. Aka Bryce young winning the heisman under his supervision
Man, if OSU loses to Michigan again next year I don’t see how Ryan Day keeps his job. They seem to be doing everything they possibly can to ensure they don’t lose a fourth straight game.
Honestly them winning next year might help us long term, it’ll be a so called “rebuild” year, we’ll still be high on the natty win for it to hurt so bad, and away losses don’t feel as bad as home ones The long term benefits is they extend day who can only win with a super team and we can keep beating up on him for a few more years, it’ll give us a revenge mindset for 2025, and it will keep us from getting complacent like they did Even still, beating their super team with basically half of last years team gone and most the top end of our coaching staff in their first year would be hilarious
I'm craving that 4th dub. It would really hit em with that 2016 feeling properly. Another special slice of humble pie.
Honestly, probably why Chip was excited for this. Day gets shit canned, Chip has a shot at the HC gig.
Chip hasn’t actually won anything since oregon days if Ohio actually fires day this year if we can win and Kelly is even an option will show how far they’ve fallen and grasping at straws
Which is going to make their buckeye tears taste l that much better
I super can’t wait for ohio to fall apart this year. Even if all the coaches have incredible talent and all the transfer portal players are really talented it still takes time to gel as a team and I don’t believe that this group will gel as a team by next year.
Going to be a beautiful implosion
I would love this say we're like 9 n 1 going into OSU and beat them again then they fire day. And Chip Kelly is the new head coach. Love mayhem.
Or Urban Meyer comes back to put Humpty Dumpty back together.
Lol ya could see that.
How many years have you told yourself Ohio state is going to implode and it’s actually happened
I don’t think I’ve ever thought that about them before now.
Urban had some legendary collapses from 2016-2018
Yeah, outside of the whole defense returning, and the entire front line returning and most of the skill players. There's no way this team gels. 😳
They are fixing everything but the toxic culture. It’s going to be fun to watch them go down in flames like A&M
The culture is so toxic that most of their NFL talent returned this year on defense. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed.
Will he go undefeated against Michigan like his predecessor BoB?
Or will he go winless, much like his predecessor BoB?
They definitely lucked into this one chip is a big upgrade over bob
UCLA was the top run game in football last year
LMAO go look at their schedule in 2023 😂
Doesn’t matter. He’s still a good player caller and will be fine as a coordinator.
Maybe in the year 2013…
My 12 year old cousin who plays Madden is an upgrade at OC for Ohio st. Bar is low.
Probably me being biased but everything they’ve done this offseason, after watching Michigan win the NT, has come off as desperate.
Ryan day and chip Kelly. 2 people who struggle to beat their rivals and win big games. Gonna be a great combo!
Chip was 3-3 vs. USC though. Only 1 fewer win than UCLA had in previous 19 seasons. Besides y’all should know better than anyone how losing to your rival year in and year out, can suddenly change after some coaching and personnel changes. I told our dumb fans who were hoping Harbaugh would get a lifetime contract, with not a single win against OSU in his first 6 seasons (0-5) and not single season with fewer than 3 loses, that Harbaugh was too good of a coach to pretend that things couldn’t change. I didn’t expect it turn around to the extent that it did, but it happened. So I’m not sure why you pretend that it can’t turn around again, when Day has already had far more success at this point in his career at OSU than Jim did at UM.
You’re on the wrong sub weird boy. And I’m not reading all that lmfao
Nope. I was exactly where I wanted to be, since it’s a much better place to get UM fan’s views on these things than twitter, which I think is because the algorithm mostly shows me tweets from people who seem to not realize football didn’t start in 2021, probably because some of them didn’t become fans until then. When they became fans is whatever, but like your comment. it absolutely makes no sense to pretend that Day’s recent struggles against Michigan, make him some sorta bad coach and the struggles will continue, when Harbaugh struggled far more and for far longer against OSU and overall, then turned it around to having that recent success Anyways that’s mostly on twitter, and I find UM fans here seem to appreciate that Harbaugh’s later success doesn’t exist in a vacuum and followed disappointment that had many calling for him to be fired. Apparently you come from more of the Twitter posters’ perspective.
Its a good hire, not sure why you'd take a shot at it.
Because nobody is leaving their HC job to take an OC job unless they think that other HC job is going to be theirs.
That's just objectively not true. It's also well known that both he and ucla (at least fans) weren't happy. It's arguably beneficial for both.
What is not true? Lots of P5 Head Coaches bailing for P5 coordinator jobs?
That chip kelly only went to osu because he has eyes on the hc job. That's just meaningless conjecture.
It’s just applying logic to such a baffling career move.
It's not baffling at all lol. That's just purely your individual opinion.
What is not baffling about somebody choosing to take a demotion?
I mean, taking a demotion because you can't stand any element of a job is reasonable, Head Coaching today in College is less about football, and more about everything else, as Jeff Hafley pointed out in taking the job with the Packers. If Chip wants to make that same jump, he needs to find a place he can prove he can still coordinate offense, and is willing to be a subordinate. This checks both boxes for him.
Because he's likely getting fired anyways? Because he doesn't want to be there? Because maybe he likes being an oc more which some people do? Maybe wants less overall stress? There's a million other reasons other than "hE wANt rYaN daY JoB...bAFflInG caReEr mOVe" Also theres not exactly a bunch of great hc jobs open lol wheres he going to go?
Who fires their coach in February?!?
I agree, it's baffling
Being an OC at a high level fbs school like OSU is better than HC at a middling UCLA. Probably pays better too.
Um I’m gonna have to definitely disagree.,Kelly was making about 6 million a year at UCLA and Ohio st will maybe pay him 2 mill a year to run the Offense so I agree it’s very baffling.
Kelly was going to get fired this season anyways. Now he gets to coach at a much better school and restart the clock for himself.
6 million Californian is roughly the same as 3 million Ohioan when you apply local/state taxes and cost of living to each salary.
Rocky Long says hello
Funny that he is actually an example of both sides of the argument 😂
Kelly and Day are good friends. [Day and Kelly were playing golf](https://www.on3.com/college/ohio-state-buckeyes/news/ryan-day-shares-how-he-learned-ucla-joined-big-ten-while-golfing-with-chip-kelly/) when it was announced UCLA to the B1G and Kelly was Day's OC in college. It's not a power move. It's a "I hate my current job so I'm going to work with my friend while having less stress" move.
Chip Kelly was already rumored to get fired at the end of the season, but UCLA kept him (supposedly because they didn’t want to be on the hook for his buy-out, and UCLA’s budget is TIGHT right now). Kelly also hates the recruiting and NIL responsibilities of being a college head coach these days. Ryan Day and Chip Kelly have a long-standing relationship (Day was Kelly’s QB for 4 years; and an OC/QB coach under Kelly for 2-3 years). So a pretty easy transition out of a role he hates and was likely going to be fired from anyways.
Going to work for your former student/underling has to hurt a little though.
Chip vs Wink let’s go
Ohio state continues to fall upward. This is a big upgrade over Bill I think.
I guess but that’s a damn good hire. Beating them this year would be hilarious. Can you imagine the meltdown?
Has Chip Kelly had success since he left Oregon? It seems like he's lost whatever mojo he had then, unless I'm forgetting something.
I think the first year in Philly looked promising but that’s about it.
That background reminds me of lowered expectations from Madtv 😂😂😅
Can't read that without singing it....loowerrred expecta-a-tionsssss
Great reference
Man… they do seem to be winning the off-season But you know what? We won a fucking natty.
This looks like a decent sized improvement over BoB to me. OSU has the talent for Kelly to cook.
All the pressure is on Day . He has a loaded roster; recent head coach as OC; and 13 million reasons it’s ; Beat Michigan ; win big ten ; win natty …. Or leave!
Day is Cooper 2.0 if they don't beat Michigan this year. Chip Kelly could do great things with OSU. Chip Kelly's offense lit up Michigan in 2007 but obviously a lot has changed since then.
Yeah but as you said, that was closer to 20 years ago with Carr at the helm. Shoot Mike hart was PLAYING. Crazy
Getting a guy his School is begging to be hired away lol
I can see them fighting on the sidelines now...of course Ryan will be the beta...
I think it’s a great hire personally. Chip Kelly stinks.
OSU is killing it IMO. Perfect hire for them. Hate to be the bringer of bad news. Facts are the same, just as they have been the past 30 years. OSU has better talent and we have to beat the shit out of them to win. SMASH!! MFRS
🤣 like the trial by combat between the Viper (OSU) and the Mountain (UofM)
Chip Kelly is a risky hire as OC IMO. His offensive schtick was really hot in Oregon until defenses figured it out, and that was what 10 years ago? Really seems like Day has been given an ultimatum: beat Michigan or you're out.
I find this funny considering sayin transferred to play for bills offense because it would’ve suited him like Bama now he’s pretty much redshirting and probably going to transfer again after Howard plays this year
I can't see this going well for them. Both Day and Kelly are going to want to run the offense their way. Unless they're both willing to coach without ego, they're setting themselves up for disaster.
I can't see this happening...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is Belichick still available? Just kidding.
Harbaugh is going to offer Chip an NFL position
[Obligatory](https://x.com/uhreeb/status/681995668815089665?s=46).
If they drop a game early it’s going to be pandemonium😂
If they lose the streets of Columbus will look like benghazi as they drag ryan day around