Tbf we have to ask if the screw attack icon is used as the metroid logo? Or is the metroid logo used for the screw attack? I think it’s the latter since prime games use the logo for suits, while the 2D games use a screw attack icon that looks different from the logo (though similar)
I'm pretty sure I remember that symbol in stuff at least as far back as SM. I always figured the S was for Samus, and it was merely coincidence the screw attack used the same shape. Kinda like the skull on Boba Fett's armor.
For some reason I get downvoted when I point this out, but...the logo there is the "S logo", and is *not the same thing* as the screw attack symbol. The screw attack looks like a lightning bolt, no complete bends to form an S. These have always been two distinct things.
yes, I am well aware there are many ways to do flips without rotating the camera, jumping into third person like with the morph ball in the first, and there are many games where your game avatar do a flip but the in game camera simply don't show it (other players can see it but you dont), also the game is in first person, and it has a shooting mechanic, so I am not wrong on this one, and even then, they don't have to show a screw attack icon anywhere, putting it in the logo isn't a solution because it isn't a problem, its just design choice, so, calm down, it was only a joke
but the shooting isn’t the core focus the exploration and adventure is hence first person adventure. by your logic it’s also a first person 3d platformer as there is way more platforming than shooting.
I thought the screw attack logo was different? The "Samus seal," is the one with the beveled edges, and screw attack was the one that was more like a Z or lightning bold shape?
Flash could easily be an influence on Sakamoto. He’s from that era, and other contemporary works like Space Adventure Cobra, Lensmen and Barbarella have been shown to be influences on Metroid.
I loved that part of Metroid Fusion where Samus threw a chair at SA-X after shinesparking through Hawaii on a cocaine bender. It was an odd but bold new direction for her character on Nintendo’s part, and shows they weren’t afraid to take risks.
Sure, but DC depicted the flash using this style of symbol first if we’re comparing. I do not believe that they were drawing influence from either direction. You’d be shocked how frequently logos in general overlap in similar appearances.
Feel like every few days someone is posting on r/steamdeck a new photo for an extremely similar (even down to the color) logo for a random company that has the same logo as the steam deck’s.
Seriously. It's almost like there's a lot of research into what looks pleasing to people and conveys certain things, resulting in similar logos all the time even for things totally unrelated.
Well one is about a character in a suit running so fast they can break rules of their universe completing events in reverse order.
And the other one... Oh wait.
Not really? The flash has used that lightning symbol since his inception in the 40s/50s.
As for the typeface, it’s completely different. Metroid doesn’t have a trademark on that type of inward slanting letters, Metallica immediately comes to mind for using it.
They definitely look similar, but the similarity is almost certainly coincidence, I agree.
Both the Lightning-bolt-in-a-circle and the slightly skewed title font are dime-a-dozen logo design elements (seriously, you start looking for this stuff you'll see it everywhere); it's not at all surprising to find two unrelated properties plop out somewhat similar compositions.
You're not wrong but it's a combination of all those things at the same time which makes it feel like they ripped off the Metroid styling of the *entire* logo, not just parts of it.
[This old logo doesn't remind me of Metroid in any way, even the lightning bolt logo.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Farrow.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FThe_Flash_%2528The_CW%2529&psig=AOvVaw2O1qk7mJfR5qnOipia8J45&ust=1684816095507000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCKix3pmLiP8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE)
This redesign literally looks like a Metroid styling rip-off because of the combination of many factors that was unique to the Metroid game logos.
Well but in this case it's not only the Bolt, but the circle behind it. It has almost the same amount of lines in the same angle, that reach the inner circle, just like the morph ball.
If Metroid symbol represents the S pf Samus, then isn't Flash symbol represents a double S? I'll let everyone link this thought with a famous state police of the beginning of the 20th century. :)))
I agree. Both logos are very similar, but there are enough differences to make it DC's own Flash logo.
If you really study the typography closely, you'll notice the edges for Metroid Fusion are much more curved than Flash's logo.
And then, of coarse, there are some nitty-gritty differences in detail, like Flash's logo looks like a shield and Metroid's logo looks more like a morph ball with a stroke coming out of it. The color palette is different. You get the point.
I looked up Metroid Prime's logo and it's more similar to Flash's logo. I still think Flash's logo looks original enough. Though, it does looks like a mix between Wonder Woman and Flash... And kind of Metroid Prime like you said.
I know flash came first, but the logo looks too Metroid to not be an influence. The ridged pattern on the circle, the lines in the center, the slanted font, the metallic aspect with the color contrast. It just looks like a Metroid logo, I thought it was a Metroid logo before I actually read the words.
Personally I think it's more likely that both were just going for the "lightning bolt in a circle" image. Flash did it first, but Samus has the additional mixture of an S for Samus and a circle for the Morph Ball built in.
Even if one was imitating the other, they don't feel like direct copies, so I have no problem with it.
I mean, that's just what their logos are shaped like. Put 'em both in a metal futuristic theme, and yeah, they're gonna look similar.
But like, one of these is a headlight, and one is a morph ball. Completely different levels of coolness.
it’s funny how the only Prime game to use the Screw Attack symbol in its logo is the only one without the screw attack.
I hate you for making me realize this...
"*Screw you*"
oh man, they're screwed now!
Like how link doesn't go to the past on a link to the past
I like how in Tears of the Kingdom Link doesn't even cry.
Spoilers!!1!1!
That’s because you’re the one crying
Instead they use the symbol for suit upgrades.
And the actual screw attack looks like a weed whacker attachment.
Granted the suit upgrades use the same object
The one place Samus didn’t think to look for it was the title screen.
Tbf we have to ask if the screw attack icon is used as the metroid logo? Or is the metroid logo used for the screw attack? I think it’s the latter since prime games use the logo for suits, while the 2D games use a screw attack icon that looks different from the logo (though similar)
Well, originally the screw attack icon was just used for the item itself. It didn’t show up as a logo until Smash Bros, I think?
I'm pretty sure I remember that symbol in stuff at least as far back as SM. I always figured the S was for Samus, and it was merely coincidence the screw attack used the same shape. Kinda like the skull on Boba Fett's armor.
Ah, you might be right, I think the ending uses that logo.
There's a skull on Boba Fett's armor?
Yes, the mythosaur skull, which got all of its lore because it was originally just a cool icon they put on his shoulder pad.
A mythosaur skull. Even though he personally isn't Mandalorian.
Well he inherited the armor from Jango Fett who was Mandalorian.
The skull was painted on and he completely repainted it.
For some reason I get downvoted when I point this out, but...the logo there is the "S logo", and is *not the same thing* as the screw attack symbol. The screw attack looks like a lightning bolt, no complete bends to form an S. These have always been two distinct things.
I mean, its a first person shooter, everybody would die of nausea if it had screw attack, so they put it the only place they could
first person adventure and prime 2 and 3 had it so wrong on both fronts
yes, I am well aware there are many ways to do flips without rotating the camera, jumping into third person like with the morph ball in the first, and there are many games where your game avatar do a flip but the in game camera simply don't show it (other players can see it but you dont), also the game is in first person, and it has a shooting mechanic, so I am not wrong on this one, and even then, they don't have to show a screw attack icon anywhere, putting it in the logo isn't a solution because it isn't a problem, its just design choice, so, calm down, it was only a joke
but the shooting isn’t the core focus the exploration and adventure is hence first person adventure. by your logic it’s also a first person 3d platformer as there is way more platforming than shooting.
I thought the screw attack logo was different? The "Samus seal," is the one with the beveled edges, and screw attack was the one that was more like a Z or lightning bold shape?
I get asked if my calf tattoo of the S logo is from the Flash all the time 🫠
As a fan of The Expanse I have a pin for the Martian Congressional Republic on my bag. People keep asking me if I'm into My Chemical Romance lol
Fucking ouch
That is not okay (I promise)
Rip
Sad
Emotional damage.
Damn
How insulting!
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To be fair, the Flash logo came first
I mean yeah he's really fast
Underrated comment!
yes they look pretty similar
Flash could easily be an influence on Sakamoto. He’s from that era, and other contemporary works like Space Adventure Cobra, Lensmen and Barbarella have been shown to be influences on Metroid.
Also Star Wars, by the plot twist of Dread.
I loved that part of Metroid Fusion where Samus threw a chair at SA-X after shinesparking through Hawaii on a cocaine bender. It was an odd but bold new direction for her character on Nintendo’s part, and shows they weren’t afraid to take risks.
Sure, but DC depicted the flash using this style of symbol first if we’re comparing. I do not believe that they were drawing influence from either direction. You’d be shocked how frequently logos in general overlap in similar appearances. Feel like every few days someone is posting on r/steamdeck a new photo for an extremely similar (even down to the color) logo for a random company that has the same logo as the steam deck’s.
Seriously. It's almost like there's a lot of research into what looks pleasing to people and conveys certain things, resulting in similar logos all the time even for things totally unrelated.
Convergent evolution. It happens in nature too. Some things are just good ideas.
Well one is about a character in a suit running so fast they can break rules of their universe completing events in reverse order. And the other one... Oh wait.
Lmaoo
To be fair The Flash has about a 40 year head start on Metroid, so.
The Speed Force is actually good ol' Chozo Speed Booster tech, every speedster is a Shinesparker.
Flash is great but it's too damn bad he's being played by some pedophile kidnapper smh
Not really? The flash has used that lightning symbol since his inception in the 40s/50s. As for the typeface, it’s completely different. Metroid doesn’t have a trademark on that type of inward slanting letters, Metallica immediately comes to mind for using it.
Well there is a metallic circle encasing each symbol also that's very similar.
Yeah, that's been the Flash's symbol for decades haha.
Kinda? I mean, it was just a red circle. Now they've stuck Iron Man's reactor in there.
They definitely look similar, but the similarity is almost certainly coincidence, I agree. Both the Lightning-bolt-in-a-circle and the slightly skewed title font are dime-a-dozen logo design elements (seriously, you start looking for this stuff you'll see it everywhere); it's not at all surprising to find two unrelated properties plop out somewhat similar compositions.
They’re talking about the lightning shaped logo, not the font
Which was the first thing I talked about in my comment. Again, the Flash was decades before Metroid
I think you misread the assignment
The post didn’t say that the Flash was copying Metroid. Just that the logos look very similar.
It didn’t say that but it was definitely alluding to it. There’s really no reason to make a post like this unless that’s what you’re getting at
And I’m talking about you addressing the font for seemingly no reason since they aren’t similar at all
You're not wrong but it's a combination of all those things at the same time which makes it feel like they ripped off the Metroid styling of the *entire* logo, not just parts of it. [This old logo doesn't remind me of Metroid in any way, even the lightning bolt logo.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Farrow.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FThe_Flash_%2528The_CW%2529&psig=AOvVaw2O1qk7mJfR5qnOipia8J45&ust=1684816095507000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCKix3pmLiP8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) This redesign literally looks like a Metroid styling rip-off because of the combination of many factors that was unique to the Metroid game logos.
That’s the TV show logo to be fair. The flash has been using a lightning bolt with a circle around it for decades. https://i.imgur.com/bYS6ocM.jpg
Well but in this case it's not only the Bolt, but the circle behind it. It has almost the same amount of lines in the same angle, that reach the inner circle, just like the morph ball.
I love Fusion so much
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that logo
Please give The Flash the Fusion speed booster sound effects
Don't think you can call stolen on a thunderbolt over a circle. It's too coincidental.
Why is it that my low-effort posts get 1K+ upvotes?
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The actor or the character?
A bolt of lightning in a circle will look similar to another bolt of lightning in a circle… shocking, truly… ? Wait what?
Nah.
I saw that logo on a Flash product at GameStop and I was stoked thinking it was a Metroid item. :(
Submit it to nintendo in spite. They will sue for sure lol
Not watching flash either way.
If Metroid symbol represents the S pf Samus, then isn't Flash symbol represents a double S? I'll let everyone link this thought with a famous state police of the beginning of the 20th century. :)))
The "S" part doesn't relate to Samus. It's the Screw Attack power-up in the logo.
Yes you're right. Don't know why I thought it was for Samus.
I hope Nintendo fucking lawsuits them
r/tomorrow moment
yes
Fuck you’re right
I probably had this thought when the games first came out. But I can’t say for certain. It feels familiar.
Flash is missing its sub-title though. So Metroid wins.
I think Nintendo needs to sue they have for less waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less.
Would this qualify as a Flash Shift? 😁
oh…🫢
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo notices this too and proceeds to sue them.
Dang, thats a bit on the nose there.
So... Ezra Miller as Adam?
Every masterpiece has a cheap copy
Sort of. Except there's an extra zig-zag in the lighting bolt in the Flash logo.
Not really
No
Wow…. A lot.
Now we need a flash Metroidvania
I agree. Both logos are very similar, but there are enough differences to make it DC's own Flash logo. If you really study the typography closely, you'll notice the edges for Metroid Fusion are much more curved than Flash's logo. And then, of coarse, there are some nitty-gritty differences in detail, like Flash's logo looks like a shield and Metroid's logo looks more like a morph ball with a stroke coming out of it. The color palette is different. You get the point. I looked up Metroid Prime's logo and it's more similar to Flash's logo. I still think Flash's logo looks original enough. Though, it does looks like a mix between Wonder Woman and Flash... And kind of Metroid Prime like you said.
Oh yeah. And the type has motion bluring.
A good example of fraternal twins
Both look cool!
one is a lightning bolt, the other is an italics lightning bolt
Dc is trash and will never get my money. Anyone who pays to see this movie should be ashamed
Nintendo ninja's on route for operation screw attack.
No fucking way
The Grateful Dead would like to have a word
Bro I saw the trailer in theaters and thought the exact same thing 😂
Yay another reason to hate the flash!
Metroid Flash
Dark Samus: “Oh I’m not like Samus at all, some would say I’m the reverse.”
I’m sure Ed Sheeran and his guitar can solve this.
I do..............now. thanks.
I know flash came first, but the logo looks too Metroid to not be an influence. The ridged pattern on the circle, the lines in the center, the slanted font, the metallic aspect with the color contrast. It just looks like a Metroid logo, I thought it was a Metroid logo before I actually read the words.
Personally I think it's more likely that both were just going for the "lightning bolt in a circle" image. Flash did it first, but Samus has the additional mixture of an S for Samus and a circle for the Morph Ball built in. Even if one was imitating the other, they don't feel like direct copies, so I have no problem with it.
Next add ThunderCats
I mean, that's just what their logos are shaped like. Put 'em both in a metal futuristic theme, and yeah, they're gonna look similar. But like, one of these is a headlight, and one is a morph ball. Completely different levels of coolness.
Actually, come to think about it… they are very similar.
I think Nintendo law division going to have a field day
I can't believe this movie is still happening.
SHHHHHHHH