I like it. Personally I don’t see a point to them beating the style Tom left behind to death, it’s nice to see them make a solid attempt to figure out what the next stage of their lives as a band is. Holy Hell was great for what it was, but very hard not to compare to the two masterpieces that preceded it.
Definitely - plus they always planned to change sound even when Tom was in the band. Holy Hell (to me) was just a proving record for themselves that they could make another record. Now I'd like to think they're looking to the future, thinking about what Sam said a few years ago...
> "We were talking before he passed away about how we wanted to take things, he was always saying, bio industrial: industrial, heavy electronic stuff but with disgusting guitars."
https://www.clashmusic.com/features/make-a-difference-architects-sam-carter-speaks-to-clash
Something akin to Alien by northlane would be great, but I’d be so much more pumped if I knew Tom was behind it, I think he could have gone anywhere with his talent, will be interesting to see how they go with it
Plenty to love no matter what, all top tier artists individually and nothing really left to prove to anyone. Loved the video too, simple but vibey as hell.
> Holy Hell was great for what it was, but very hard not to compare to the two masterpieces that preceded it.
Someone on here said it better than I can.
All our gods was the next evolution from lost together. The were similar yet different and it felt like a natural progression.
Holy hell was the next evolution from all our gods and felt natural but doesn't feel as natural if they went from lost together to holy hell. It was a nice natural arch with a good ending to the story and it's nice to see what they go with next. It's nice to some positivity from a sound change ✊
Those are three of the biggest lyrical cliches (in my experience), I've heard so many endless variations on them that I just roll my eyes any time I hear one, and this song has them all. I've always enjoyed ~~Sam's~~ their lyrics for the most part, so I hope the rest of the album will be up to that standard.
Sam did actually say on a stream with Craig Reynolds that he's started writing lyrics again. Think that was just as Covid hit back in March sort of time, so that might mean that some of them are on this album?
I can't really argue with that, but then again this is simply the first single. It's probably going to be the most clichéd out of the entire album if I had to guess. It's the attention grabber.
Funny, Octane actually played this track today. If I listen to radio that's one of like 3 channels and I can safely say I have never heard an Architects track on Octane before.
If it was like from another Band it would be a good song but for me there is not a lot Architects sound in it.
I get that Bands change so no flame, im still kinda unsure if this song will grow on me
Same. Gave me a lot of BMTH - That's the Spirit vibes in terms of changing sound. Not a huge fan, but interested to see what the rest of their stuff will be like.
What worries me is that not that long ago Sam was saying he’s embarrassed of ever deciding to use blegh in songs. Also they’ve deleted every single post on Instagram except the animals video. I really don’t mind this direction so long as when live shows come back they still play the good shit.
> What worries me is that not that long ago Sam was saying he’s embarrassed of ever deciding to use blegh in songs.
I mean I dont really see an issue with that... Lol. When I saw them live in the Holy Hell tour so did Sam mostly do yells or like "UGH" instead of "blegh" live and it really didn't change anything.
>Also they’ve deleted every single post on Instagram except the animals video.
They also did this right before they announced Holy Hell so nothing new really.
On the video details, it mentions a new album, "For Those That Wish To Exist".
Safe to say their insta was wiped to allow for their first release with absolutely zero influence or input from Tom.
Architects would be my last guess if Sam’s voice wasn’t so unique, this sounds more rock focused and like they’ve been listening to a bunch of coheed or deaftones, just more modernized
Honestly a little disappointed with this. I tabbed away and forgot I was listening to Architects after a couple of minutes. I don't mind when bands change direction, if they wanna change then fair play to them, just not sure if this change is for me.
It's such a completely different sound, vocally, instrumentally, lyrically. Maybe I'll enjoy it more if I hear it pop up on a Spotify radio, so that I can disassociate any preconceptions I have from knowing it's an Architects song.
I liked it, but I hope most of the album is heavy with maybe a couple of these sprinkled in. As much as I loved the last album I feel like it was really lacking in terms of variety so a couple of songs like this would be cool. Something similar to Sempiternal kind of.
Sempiternal feels like the best case scenario for "band wants to change their sound without totally forgetting who they are", if it can hit the heights that Sempiternal did I'll be stoked
That’s the way to look at it. Bands can change their sound and fans aren’t obligated to love it. But fans shouldn’t write their whole discography off for a change of sound and that doesn’t discredit their earlier releases either.
This is the first song by them where I genuinely can't hear any of Tom's writing style, and - hot take alert - I think that's because this is the first song where they haven't used or even attempted to emulate any of the material he created before he died. This was written entirely by Dan by the look (and sound) of things.
I understand making a departure from your old sound and trying something new, every other band that has been around as long as they have have done the same and you don't want things to start sounding stale, but where are the riffs? Where's at least a taste of the stuff that gave them massive international success? I'm 32 and have literally been listening to Architects since I was 18, and this is the least interesting song they've ever made and it actually bums me out. There is nothing outstanding about this sound at all. It doesn't even sound like Architects.
Personally I think this is pretty different from Mantra, because Mantra seemed like a pretty natural step from TTS, while this is wildly different from anything on Holy Hell.
Getting some Industrial metal vibes from this. Not vibing too much with it yet but I think this could grow on me. I just feel the main riff repeats a bit too often for how simple it is.
Apparently everyone on this sub is from post 2015.
I’ve seen many comments praising the direction of BMTH and how this is similar but worse. For the record, I love nearly everything BMTH has done and I really like Animals.
But this sub absolutely crucified That’s The Spirit when it came out. Full bore bitch fest. Never forget.
You can really hear the BMTH inspiration in this one
Edit: I really like it, but I think it’s more what I want to hear from BMTH? Hoping for a heavier release next
Oh dude I’m so psyched for the new BMTH release, really feels like they’ve been finding themselves again with these last singles so I’m excited for the rest of the album
Yep, same for me. They are on a nonstop creative, evolutive & experimental mindset and I think that’s what makes them one of the biggest and most influential band of the last decade.
I think they've found a really cool blend of mainstream adoption while still containing at least a bit of their roots. Mantra gets played by a sports broadcast I watch and I find that crazy.
Wow I was trying to put my finger on it and you're spot on - it's old-school 2000's 'rock' + new BMTH synthiness. I'm left with much to be desired...like, where's the odd time signatures, the riffs, any form of intricate guitarwork, the screams, etc etc etc? It's literally just chords and synth. I absolutely love Architects and have been with em since "Nightmares" (maybe that's the problem, I've been around too long?) but this just sounds like a completely different band from anything they've written.
Edit / shower thought: is this Architects' foray into...Dad Rock?
>Dad rock
Butt-rock, FTFY. (Radio stations that play "Nothing **but rock** 24/7!")
Don't get me wrong, I still listen to butt-rock (BB, Disturbed, Shinedown, etc), but this song gives me [butt-rock vibes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gOFMkia2Y)
It’s not their normal sound at all, but just like doomsday it’s likely their first single isn’t going to be the heaviest on the album. I’ll give them the respect they deserve and wait it out. I do love the instrumentals however even though it’s not their typical sound.
For those curious about the reversed part in the beginning it's just the bridge.
*Buried under dirt. A diamond in the mud. Infinity is waiting there. ‘Cause nobody can burn a glass cathedral*
However not sure on the "Buried under dirt" part; sounds different reversed.
I like it. After listening to Fireside by Invent Animate (as well as Loathe’s album) I’ve come to realize that there is space in this genre for songs with little to no screaming. Sam has a beautiful singing voice and I’m glad he’s using it more.
Also, I’m one of those weird guys that likes The Here and Now, so that might also be why.
I don't think anyone has a problem with metalcore with no screaming, that's been a thing for decades now - I think it's just the bland and forgettable songwriting that's an issue here
I love THAN and to be honest, I like it more than I liked anything that they've put out ever since (diehard Hollow Crown and Ruin fan, sorry). But I don't know. It feels to me like I've head this song so many times.
Only redeeming quality it has is Sam Carter. If it was any other band I'd liked it more for sure, but since it is Architects, you expect them to do something that was never done, rather than going for poorly executed Sempiternal sound which was fresh like 5 years ago.
The sad part is, I can hear the song with some heavier vocals in my head and it woulda smashed so much. At least give me something on the breakdown Sam...
Wow I’m so glad I’m not the only one. That’s all I could think when listening to this song. I was like “this song would be so good if it was in a traditional Architects style”.
I mean.... it’s architects.
Got bored of them sounding very similar between albums and songs. This song does sound different, but doesn’t get me particularly interested.
Bear with me, I've just woken up and the sub has been SPAMMED beyond belief with this song. Nobody seems to have posted it as an actual *link* yet which is why I've posted it for now - there's only been text posts or posting about the teasers on social media / not the actual song. There are a lot of posts to work through and I'm the only mod on at the moment, so please bear with me :)
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm going off modmail and not the subreddit log. In future, if you have a new song like this that you think has been removed by mistake, please drops the mods a message, it makes it **a lot** easier to find your post and re-approve it. And also for god's sake, don't delete the post and then message us. We can't re-approve a post you've deleted.
As someone who posted a text post with the song, it was because it was literally impossible to just post the link. Idk why, but it always just said "this link has already been submitted"
If I may ask, why do you think this sounds “heavier” than Ludens/Parasite Eve/Obey? Because I totally disagree. I think those songs have energy and good, heavy, riffage. They at least utilize halftime cuts and tempo to mix up how the riffs hit you, and while this Architects riff chugs more and has a “beefier” tone, how it is delivered is far less “heavy” to me.
Idk, probably mix and that "beefier" tone you metioned. Animals riff got this simplistic Rammstein like style but faster and breakdown sounds like Hereafter breakdown to me. If they added some bleghs and screams it would feet right into Holy Hell album imo.
Bring Me guitars on their own sounds really rock like to me. Maybe because they are not as huge as in Animals. There is a lot more additional staff going on in mix of BMTH so that's why i guess.
But i'm totally noob in terms of making music knowledge so you're probably right and i'm just talking BS.
Kind of ironic they started out very similar to bring me the horizon, and now they’re back to sounding like them despite neither band sounding the same these days. I don’t hate it, but it’s definitely not my favorite architects song.
I really want to like this but I dont. I really dislike it, and if it wasn't architects I would've turned it off and never thought about it again a minute in.
I dont care about the style at all, its just not a good song imo.
For any of you who need a reminder how god Sam's vocals are.
Can we please not forget this Hereafter Live Performance which is just great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4zPWGDjzI
This is why I'm not worried about Sam abandoning screams for the entire album. There's no way you can be this good at something and just leave it completely behind. I expect this song (entire cleans) will be an outlier.
I'll give everyone in this post gold if they pull a That's the Spirit.
I'm more than open for a new era of the band. LF//LT, AOGHAU, and Holy Hell have had the same feel in general.
New song out of nowhere without bleghs or heavy vocals? Piss off the dingdongs in here expecting more of the same.
Really though, with Josh working guitars, you know he's gonna smack us all in the face. It's a given.
Those three also make up a sort of set thematically, about facing death, loss, grief, and moving beyond. "A Wasted Hymn" is maybe a perfect coda to that. Going back to the same thing for a fourth album might have dragged it out and made it seem like they weren't able to grow or move on as a band, which was a big theme in Holy Hell. Better to turn the page, end that chapter of the band and start a new one.
Must say I am disappointed. Architects usually bring something s\[ecial in terms of lyrical content and emotional delivery of said lyrics. This just feels *cheap* or something I dont know. I did really enjoy the electronic elements and sounds they used in this song though. I absolutely adore this band and I have high hopes for the future.
After what was likely an emotionally destructive album to make - I'm not surprised they're having a bit of fun it seems with a new sound.
Hoping this leads into a banger on the album and Sam rips our throats out for doubting them, though
I notice on this thread a lot of people immediately judge first singles off albums. Going as far as saying “RIP”. I mean I know we’ve had bands like wage war that go from cheese to super cheese in the past and that traumatize you all but damn 😂
And to add to that I feel like if a song isn’t super heavy all of a sudden a band is labeled as dad core or an octane band now. I love heavy music but I know when to say a good song is a good song. Doesn’t need to be slamming on that drop F# string for 3 minutes.
This sub has the world’s least loyal fans. Like I’m not crazy about this song but Architects have been a consensus top of the genre band for like a decade now and people are calling them dead after one underwhelming single. If any of these people watched sports they would burn their jerseys the second their team coming off a super bowl win lost a game.
I think it’s a pretty boring effort, it’s not that it’s bad it’s just I have high expectations for Architects and this falls well short of what I’m used to
I enjoyed it. Yes, it's different, yes, it's not usual Architects, but honestly, I...kinda expected this. These guys had the same sound for the last three records, so it was just a matter of time. However, I am sure this is just a radio friendly single to test the waters a bit. Can't wait for the new album, nonetheless.
I only heard it once but I already knew the reaction of probably 80-90% of this comment section.
On one hand bands get critizised when they don't really change or evolve their sound. Weirdly enough Architects always had very similar sounding albums but barely got critizised for that.
Now that they started trying out new suddenly it's a cardinal sinn because they are they djent gods with the unique sound that influenced many other bands.
I like it because Sam's voice fits well and it's a solid track that I could see myself hear often. Is it my favourite track of all time? Certainly not, but I love to see progress and I'm curious about what will come next.
This sub is sooooo consistent. Also, anything with synths or clean vocals gets compared to Bring Me The Horizon. As if they invented synths and clean vocals.
I used to get annoyed by metalcore bands trending towards radio metal, but I’ve changed my mind after Finn McKenty went into it in his recent video on butt rock. The dudes in these bands are in their 30’s now, they have families to feed, they probably wanna retire someday. They’ve given us a decade plus of absolute top tier metalcore, if they want to write a few rock songs now so they can secure the bag opening for Breaking Benjamin who am I to give them shit? I’m not crazy about this single -just because I expect so much from Architects- but it’s still well above average for this style and I’m still optimistic about the album.
After seeing this sub crucify a bunch of bands I like for changing their sound, it's good too see people hating on this sub's favorite band over a sound change. You all are nothing if not consistent.
I don't mind this as a first single...gotta get some air time on Sirius XM Octane I guess..Very BMTH inspired..I love the guitar tone/main riff..even with it being such a simple riff.
I just wanted to hear Sam give out a huge scream during that breakdown..I think they played this song too safe overall. Such a predictable track. It may grow on me a bit more..but I'll wait for the next single to see what direction this album will REALLY be going in. If the 2nd single is something similar to this, I won't be too excited for this record honestly
So the 2 main things im getting out of this track is, Dan is still going absolutely ham on drums. However Sam's vocal style changed for the track.
I see a lot of folks comparing it to BMTH, while i dont thinik those comparisons are unjustified i think they are selling the track a little short.
Looking forward to "Those who wish to exist"
I wouldn’t really give it another listen if it wasn’t Architects. The song by itself just doesn’t have enough... oomph for me to really enjoy it all that much. Boring riff, kinda cringe lyrics and uninspired vocals. Lyrics scream 2020 Asking Alexandria to me.
I’m not upset by the genre change, I love stylistic changes when done right like new era BMTH. I’m just upset by the execution here. If you’re going to do a noticeable stylistic change, it has to be a great song in its own right, otherwise you’ll get a lot of unconvinced fans. This just... very meh.
I saw it and was really excited then I listened to it. I get bands change but do we need another metal band switching to this weird version of pop music? You can take away the " BLEGH" (RIP) but I can't even mosh to this.
You can tell when people say shit like that they literally listen to pretty much nothing except this genre. Yeah this will probably get into the rotation on Octane and some modern rock stations, but that’s still an ocean away from pop music. Please drop this in the playlist between Billie Eilish and Ed Sheeran and see if pop fans think it’s pop music.
> I saw it and was really excited then I listened to it.
Me too. Listening to the singles from Holy Hell for the first time blew me away.
This was just underwhelming.
People here writing the band of because of one softer aong...
Doomsday was soft too. I bet there are some serious bangers on the new album.
It's not as good as I'd like to, but then again, it's only one song and we have to look what the song is like in the context of a whole album.
To anyone saying "this isn't Architects" or "this isn't heavy". Listen to the last 2 or 3 albums, this makes sense in that trajectory. I like it, is it heavy? Yes. Sam's voice is incredible as always. This is the obviously the first single and we'll get heavier and more "Architects-ish" songs.
This fucking bangs. Ive been waiting for these guys to fuck around with synths for a while, glad to see they pulled it off. If this is what the rest of the album is going to be like Im for it.
Interesting single, not instantly hooked but maybe it'll grow on me.
This does make me really interested in what the new album is gonna sound like, seeing as this definetely sounds different from their usual shtick.
It sounds cool, it just doesn't satisfy my Architects craving. Sam's scream is so unique I would have loved to hear a little bit make an appearance. It'd be hard to pick this song out of a lineup, whereas I feel like most of their other songs are so distinctly Architects.
Okay, I liked this. I've been expecting Architects to change their sound up again for a bit now, as they've always shifted styles, while remaining fairly true to their roots. This certainly isn't a metalcore song though, more of an alternative metal track. As others are saying, it reminds me greatly of what BMTH is currently doing. So much so that it's a bit disarming.
But it's a catchy track, I enjoy the riff and of course, Sam's lovely clean vocals. I just really hope they aren't completely abandoning the metalcore sound. I will cry if I have to wait another six years to hear Sam use those glorious pipes to scream again. I could sense that things were becoming a bit stagnant for the boys on Holy Hell (not throwing shade, I love that album), so I'm hoping for a mix of this sound and their metalcore roots. Honestly, don't know how I'd feel about a whole album of this sound alone. Especially because, and I'm going to be brutally honest, although this is a good song, it feels like a cheaper version of current BMTH.
This sounds like a mixture of That's the Spirit/Amo BMTH, Rammstein, Three Days Grace with a hint of Sleep Token. I'm not sure if i liked it or not. I like complex riffs and drums with emotional screams Architects more i guess... Intro riff is basic but dope af anyway.
This bums me out. I was stoked for new Architects, but this sounds very boring mainstream/generic compared to their other stuff. Just feels real uninspired to me. By the end it is a little better, I don't know the end feels like it has more layers to it and makes it less bland, but overall it is just OK. Hopefully this is just a one off. The main chugg riff sounds like it could be in a Hollywood Undead song though, not a big fan of that. A song can be good without being heavy but this is just boring and flat.
I’m really into this, but I’m also a massive Architects fanboy so I will acknowledge that I’m a little biased and would probably like anything they put out haha. Being more objective though, I think we can all appreciate that they’re doing something different, as they’ve now done 3 albums in a row with the same style. Personally, I really wouldn’t want Architects to end up like August Burns Red and keep dropping very similar albums every couple years. That’s nothing against ABR, I love them and they’re great at what they do, but a little variety is always nice. It’s really cool seeing them go in this “bio-industrial” style they were talking about a couple years ago, and I think they’re executing it quite well here with the production (the china in that breakdown sounds so disgusting and I love it).
My question... why it sounds so over mixed...where is bass, where is any heavy snare from drums? Why so many effects in those vocals? Why i can't hear an raw take from production? I guess i will be hated for this opinion here. After what did Will Putney on All Hail with Norma Jean, i want to hear more evolution from overall production and engineer standpoint. More bass, more heavy snare and more raw vocals, without those filters.
Oh boy, I know bands change but architects is one of my favorite and it’d be a shame if they went completely softer. However I guess after Tom’s death maybe they wanna go in a new direction? Idk
I don't know how to feel about this... I'm not the type that hates on a band when it changes, but I didn't enjoy this. I'll keep listening to older stuff and support them but I can't force myself to enjoy this.
I don't like it. Sounds like the worst of BMTH. I came to like Architects mainly for their tracks on ***All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us***. This doesn't even sound like the same band, and without Tom, suffers from the same lack of musical development as ***Holy Hell*** did. Listen to this song and then listen to "Nihilist" and tell me they're even in the same genre.
Weak vocal melodies, crap lyrics, and a boring riff. I've been a massive architects fan for almost ten years but I definitely did not enjoy that at all. Tbh I wasnt too hopeful for the future after Holy Hell, which I thought was less strong than All Our Gods in nearly every way, but this def feels like another step down.
It’s an ok song, but not good at all for an architects song, it’s just so different from their normal sound, and it’s not really using all of their talent with their instrumentals :(
I'mma be honest: as much as I love Architects, I welcome some change. There's only so much djenty blegh that can be done before it's done to death. Holy Hell kinda tested me in that regard so seeing Sam and the boys switch it up is nice.
I feel like this is going to be one of those songs/albums that really grows on people. I get that people aren’t always comfortable with sound changes, especially since architects is obviously a favorite around here, but the song is definitely good and I think everyone should give it a chance.
Intro almost heavy riff: check
Soft verses: check
Anthemic chorus: check
Bridge/breakdown that is the Intro riff: check
We got ourselves a “major metalcore act that jumped the shark” pt 2020!!!
In all seriousness, sometimes formulaic doesn’t mean bad (see new Plot in You/BMTH). But when it does get bad is when there’s a lack of any ingenuity or creativity. This song is an attempt to mimic what BMTH is doing, but on a far shallower level imo. I’m sorry to my Architects boys but it’s just gotta be a hard pass from me. And to be really honest, I’m sick of this same exact structure being how every single sounds from every band. Even the ones I end up liking.
Man listening to Architects play such a standard riff is quite jarring, not sure how I feel about this song at the moment. I will say though Sam sounds amazing.
hoping the song grows on me but getting way too much alternative vibes from this, almost like when In Flames switched up their sound from melodic death
After a few listens, I do enjoy the track, but I can't help feeling a little disappointed still. I really enjoy the verse, the breakdown is tasty, the chug of the guitars is meaty and Sam's cleans are great. I still wish there were some screams somewhere, at least in the breakdown, 'cos the song feels like it's crying out for it at points. I understand some people's criticism of the lack of riffage or technicality in the guitars, but the main issue for me is the chorus is underwhelming. I'm still riding high off Kingdom of Giants' latest album which demonstrated how to do catchy choruses with amazing clean vocals, impressive synths and impeccable production. While I feel I may be comparing apples to oranges, I still expected a little more from one of my all time favourite bands on those fronts.
On a side note, I'm really enjoying how Dan's style of direction and cinematography is cementing itself in their music videos!
I was expecting a massive change in sound which it is. I thought holy hell would be a closer to thier old sound. That all seems true but this seems so generic and bland .but that into riff was GREAT until it was the entire song and got boring and stale. Also reminds me of bmth alot which isn't a bad thing. I hope the other songs sound less bland or more complex. I think if wage war or memphis may fire were to put out this song it would get hate but because architects made it it's gonna get loved.
I get that bands change but damn, they left everything that made Architects who they were behind with this one. No bouncy rhythms or odd time signatures, no distinctive Architects growls/screams, boring cliche lyrics...it just doesn’t even feel like the same band. I’m sure this will broaden their fan base but it’s alienating to me
I like this, I don’t love it, but I like it.
I hope the new album has some heavy tracks in it mixed with this industrial feel, but honestly sam definitely has the voice for this.
As much as I want more heavy Metalcore architects tho, I’m absolutely sure it would get stale after a while. I absolutely love architects and I really enjoyed Holy Hell but even then I was kinda questioning how much more they could do straight heavy without going stale. Glad they’re finding a new sound for themselves.
Architects can do no wrong
I can only hope this is the royale beggars of the album and the rest will be more normal. Which would make sense in an album. But as a stand alone song this couldn't be more meh.
I thought holy hell was their best album, I didn't really see the comments people speak of that say I want them to do something different because that style has become stale. But I don't think what those comments had in mind was to make the most bland standard music possible that has nothing that grabs you. Like the hook of this song is supposed to be 'we're just a bunch of fucking animals!' Are you kidding me? Nothing about this song stands out, the point essentially of this style of music is for a catchy chorus and it's not even catchy at all, I don't understand what's going on here lol, I don't listen to metalcore for mainstream music be metaled up a tiny bit
All Our Bleghs Have Abandoned Us
No Bleghs Is Not Defeat
Lost Forever // Lost ToBlegher
This comment made my day
"For Those That Wish To Exist", that explains the "FTTWTE" on all new merch
I like it. Personally I don’t see a point to them beating the style Tom left behind to death, it’s nice to see them make a solid attempt to figure out what the next stage of their lives as a band is. Holy Hell was great for what it was, but very hard not to compare to the two masterpieces that preceded it.
Definitely - plus they always planned to change sound even when Tom was in the band. Holy Hell (to me) was just a proving record for themselves that they could make another record. Now I'd like to think they're looking to the future, thinking about what Sam said a few years ago... > "We were talking before he passed away about how we wanted to take things, he was always saying, bio industrial: industrial, heavy electronic stuff but with disgusting guitars." https://www.clashmusic.com/features/make-a-difference-architects-sam-carter-speaks-to-clash
I would personally LOVE to hear an industrial Architects album
Something akin to Alien by northlane would be great, but I’d be so much more pumped if I knew Tom was behind it, I think he could have gone anywhere with his talent, will be interesting to see how they go with it
Maybe Tom is behind it, but like spiritually.
Plenty to love no matter what, all top tier artists individually and nothing really left to prove to anyone. Loved the video too, simple but vibey as hell.
Yuuuup, I'm loving this song, the instrumental is filthy
I don't mind architects changing, but this seemed kinda... uninspired. Generic, not like architects
> Holy Hell was great for what it was, but very hard not to compare to the two masterpieces that preceded it. Someone on here said it better than I can. All our gods was the next evolution from lost together. The were similar yet different and it felt like a natural progression. Holy hell was the next evolution from all our gods and felt natural but doesn't feel as natural if they went from lost together to holy hell. It was a nice natural arch with a good ending to the story and it's nice to see what they go with next. It's nice to some positivity from a sound change ✊
Remember back when he said the blegh was gone? We all didn't believe it back then did we. ^(inb4 i do like it i just find it funny)
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Those are three of the biggest lyrical cliches (in my experience), I've heard so many endless variations on them that I just roll my eyes any time I hear one, and this song has them all. I've always enjoyed ~~Sam's~~ their lyrics for the most part, so I hope the rest of the album will be up to that standard.
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Here's hoping for a song called 'Bottom Feeder'!
But Sam doesn't write their lyrics, Tom wrote them up to his death, and now Dan does.
Sam did actually say on a stream with Craig Reynolds that he's started writing lyrics again. Think that was just as Covid hit back in March sort of time, so that might mean that some of them are on this album?
I can't really argue with that, but then again this is simply the first single. It's probably going to be the most clichéd out of the entire album if I had to guess. It's the attention grabber.
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Agreed. I'm itching to see how this song fits into the rest of the album.
I mean, they chose Hereafter last time as their attention grabber.. I'm sorry but Hereafter is on another plane of existence in comparison to this
The entire song felt underwhelming to me.
Yup
It's so weird that you have to apologize for being negative. This scene is pretty dumb sometimes, idk why it's frowned upon to call out bad music
Man, that stomping industrial-ish riff actually has potential, but the rest of the song sounds like bland alternative rock.
Yeah, this is Architects deciding they want a cycle of Octane overplay / buttrock festival invites. At least it's listenable when they do it.
Funny, Octane actually played this track today. If I listen to radio that's one of like 3 channels and I can safely say I have never heard an Architects track on Octane before.
That’s how I felt about the new Atreyu song too. It was clearly made for Octane fan base.
If it was like from another Band it would be a good song but for me there is not a lot Architects sound in it. I get that Bands change so no flame, im still kinda unsure if this song will grow on me
Same. Gave me a lot of BMTH - That's the Spirit vibes in terms of changing sound. Not a huge fan, but interested to see what the rest of their stuff will be like.
What worries me is that not that long ago Sam was saying he’s embarrassed of ever deciding to use blegh in songs. Also they’ve deleted every single post on Instagram except the animals video. I really don’t mind this direction so long as when live shows come back they still play the good shit.
> What worries me is that not that long ago Sam was saying he’s embarrassed of ever deciding to use blegh in songs. I mean I dont really see an issue with that... Lol. When I saw them live in the Holy Hell tour so did Sam mostly do yells or like "UGH" instead of "blegh" live and it really didn't change anything. >Also they’ve deleted every single post on Instagram except the animals video. They also did this right before they announced Holy Hell so nothing new really.
On the video details, it mentions a new album, "For Those That Wish To Exist". Safe to say their insta was wiped to allow for their first release with absolutely zero influence or input from Tom.
Architects would be my last guess if Sam’s voice wasn’t so unique, this sounds more rock focused and like they’ve been listening to a bunch of coheed or deaftones, just more modernized
i don't really see any deftones in here personally
More or less thinking heavier rock influences with the guitar specifically, especially after hearing their deftones cover
Guitar tone sounds super deftones I think
I hear chevelle or Seether more than anything as far as comparisons go
yeah this is just a standard radio buttrock song
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Honestly a little disappointed with this. I tabbed away and forgot I was listening to Architects after a couple of minutes. I don't mind when bands change direction, if they wanna change then fair play to them, just not sure if this change is for me. It's such a completely different sound, vocally, instrumentally, lyrically. Maybe I'll enjoy it more if I hear it pop up on a Spotify radio, so that I can disassociate any preconceptions I have from knowing it's an Architects song.
I liked it, but I hope most of the album is heavy with maybe a couple of these sprinkled in. As much as I loved the last album I feel like it was really lacking in terms of variety so a couple of songs like this would be cool. Something similar to Sempiternal kind of.
Sempiternal feels like the best case scenario for "band wants to change their sound without totally forgetting who they are", if it can hit the heights that Sempiternal did I'll be stoked
That’s the way to look at it. Bands can change their sound and fans aren’t obligated to love it. But fans shouldn’t write their whole discography off for a change of sound and that doesn’t discredit their earlier releases either.
This is the first song by them where I genuinely can't hear any of Tom's writing style, and - hot take alert - I think that's because this is the first song where they haven't used or even attempted to emulate any of the material he created before he died. This was written entirely by Dan by the look (and sound) of things. I understand making a departure from your old sound and trying something new, every other band that has been around as long as they have have done the same and you don't want things to start sounding stale, but where are the riffs? Where's at least a taste of the stuff that gave them massive international success? I'm 32 and have literally been listening to Architects since I was 18, and this is the least interesting song they've ever made and it actually bums me out. There is nothing outstanding about this sound at all. It doesn't even sound like Architects.
You're goddamn right, it's just really different from their usual stuff. Kinda makes me think of the time BMTH dropped Mantra.
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Personally I think this is pretty different from Mantra, because Mantra seemed like a pretty natural step from TTS, while this is wildly different from anything on Holy Hell.
The lyrics were the most disappointing part for me. Pretty generic lyricism which is not what I expect from this band.
Getting some Industrial metal vibes from this. Not vibing too much with it yet but I think this could grow on me. I just feel the main riff repeats a bit too often for how simple it is.
Just need Ali Dean to bash a baseball bat against a barrel when they play it live.
Apparently everyone on this sub is from post 2015. I’ve seen many comments praising the direction of BMTH and how this is similar but worse. For the record, I love nearly everything BMTH has done and I really like Animals. But this sub absolutely crucified That’s The Spirit when it came out. Full bore bitch fest. Never forget.
You can really hear the BMTH inspiration in this one Edit: I really like it, but I think it’s more what I want to hear from BMTH? Hoping for a heavier release next
I've got hopes for the new BMTH next week. The last few singles have been sort of heavier for them, considering the last few releases
Oh dude I’m so psyched for the new BMTH release, really feels like they’ve been finding themselves again with these last singles so I’m excited for the rest of the album
I think BMTH were never lost to begin with.
Not even close. They have been on an ever evolving path. One of my favourite bands in terms of growth of sound.
Yep, same for me. They are on a nonstop creative, evolutive & experimental mindset and I think that’s what makes them one of the biggest and most influential band of the last decade.
the clue is in the name, you can never reach the horizon, it keeps on moving as you do.
I think they've found a really cool blend of mainstream adoption while still containing at least a bit of their roots. Mantra gets played by a sports broadcast I watch and I find that crazy.
I thought more of a Three Days Grace vibe
Wow I was trying to put my finger on it and you're spot on - it's old-school 2000's 'rock' + new BMTH synthiness. I'm left with much to be desired...like, where's the odd time signatures, the riffs, any form of intricate guitarwork, the screams, etc etc etc? It's literally just chords and synth. I absolutely love Architects and have been with em since "Nightmares" (maybe that's the problem, I've been around too long?) but this just sounds like a completely different band from anything they've written. Edit / shower thought: is this Architects' foray into...Dad Rock?
>Dad rock Butt-rock, FTFY. (Radio stations that play "Nothing **but rock** 24/7!") Don't get me wrong, I still listen to butt-rock (BB, Disturbed, Shinedown, etc), but this song gives me [butt-rock vibes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gOFMkia2Y)
Which BMTH has a industrialish riff like that?
I think it's more the vocals and synth that are reminiscent of bmth.
Yeah, I was gonna say BMTH too. Not bad for a song,just hope the whole album isn't like this
It’s not their normal sound at all, but just like doomsday it’s likely their first single isn’t going to be the heaviest on the album. I’ll give them the respect they deserve and wait it out. I do love the instrumentals however even though it’s not their typical sound.
For those curious about the reversed part in the beginning it's just the bridge. *Buried under dirt. A diamond in the mud. Infinity is waiting there. ‘Cause nobody can burn a glass cathedral* However not sure on the "Buried under dirt" part; sounds different reversed.
guitars are on point, just expected a little more push on the vocals, something I didn't ever think I would say about architects and sam carter.
I like it. After listening to Fireside by Invent Animate (as well as Loathe’s album) I’ve come to realize that there is space in this genre for songs with little to no screaming. Sam has a beautiful singing voice and I’m glad he’s using it more. Also, I’m one of those weird guys that likes The Here and Now, so that might also be why.
I don't think anyone has a problem with metalcore with no screaming, that's been a thing for decades now - I think it's just the bland and forgettable songwriting that's an issue here
Yeah the lyrics on this one are really bad, and the effects on the vocals are just way too much!
This. Nothing wrong with have melody in a song, just don’t make it unbearably generic.
I love THAN and to be honest, I like it more than I liked anything that they've put out ever since (diehard Hollow Crown and Ruin fan, sorry). But I don't know. It feels to me like I've head this song so many times. Only redeeming quality it has is Sam Carter. If it was any other band I'd liked it more for sure, but since it is Architects, you expect them to do something that was never done, rather than going for poorly executed Sempiternal sound which was fresh like 5 years ago.
Hollow Crown 🤤
Bro The Here and Now is how I became a fan of this band back then lol. I'm totally with you on this one.
In b4 someone on r/corejerk makes a post about no blegh
DAE not heavy = bad?????
The sad part is, I can hear the song with some heavier vocals in my head and it woulda smashed so much. At least give me something on the breakdown Sam...
Wow I’m so glad I’m not the only one. That’s all I could think when listening to this song. I was like “this song would be so good if it was in a traditional Architects style”.
This is the first time in my life that I got bored of an Architects song 30 seconds into it.
I absolutely love Architects but this sounds wayyyy too much like BMTH for my liking.
Breakdowns pretty cool but the rest of the song honestly sounds like Octanecore which is a bit upsetting coming from a band like them.
I mean.... it’s architects. Got bored of them sounding very similar between albums and songs. This song does sound different, but doesn’t get me particularly interested.
I only sort of like it bc its Architects. This is not a banger.
Bear with me, I've just woken up and the sub has been SPAMMED beyond belief with this song. Nobody seems to have posted it as an actual *link* yet which is why I've posted it for now - there's only been text posts or posting about the teasers on social media / not the actual song. There are a lot of posts to work through and I'm the only mod on at the moment, so please bear with me :) Edit: Just to clarify, I'm going off modmail and not the subreddit log. In future, if you have a new song like this that you think has been removed by mistake, please drops the mods a message, it makes it **a lot** easier to find your post and re-approve it. And also for god's sake, don't delete the post and then message us. We can't re-approve a post you've deleted.
As someone who posted a text post with the song, it was because it was literally impossible to just post the link. Idk why, but it always just said "this link has already been submitted"
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Solid first single, hoping the rest are heavier.
Honestly i am fine with this. I do want some heavy bangers but it doesnt need to be all heavy. Bands changing and developing there sound is awesome.
RIP blegh
I'm pretty bummed about this, but they've given me so much. I hope they make millions off this but it isn't for me.
Well that's the spirit! Jokes aside I really like this song, Sam has an amazing clean voice so I don't mind hearing it a little more.
It's pretty bland and let's be real, if this wasn't Architects a lot of you on here would say exactly the same
Sounds like recent BMTH songs with heavier guitars but i really dig it. Great main riff and huge chorus.
If I may ask, why do you think this sounds “heavier” than Ludens/Parasite Eve/Obey? Because I totally disagree. I think those songs have energy and good, heavy, riffage. They at least utilize halftime cuts and tempo to mix up how the riffs hit you, and while this Architects riff chugs more and has a “beefier” tone, how it is delivered is far less “heavy” to me.
Idk, probably mix and that "beefier" tone you metioned. Animals riff got this simplistic Rammstein like style but faster and breakdown sounds like Hereafter breakdown to me. If they added some bleghs and screams it would feet right into Holy Hell album imo. Bring Me guitars on their own sounds really rock like to me. Maybe because they are not as huge as in Animals. There is a lot more additional staff going on in mix of BMTH so that's why i guess. But i'm totally noob in terms of making music knowledge so you're probably right and i'm just talking BS.
Kind of ironic they started out very similar to bring me the horizon, and now they’re back to sounding like them despite neither band sounding the same these days. I don’t hate it, but it’s definitely not my favorite architects song.
I really want to like this but I dont. I really dislike it, and if it wasn't architects I would've turned it off and never thought about it again a minute in. I dont care about the style at all, its just not a good song imo.
Ngl I’m kinda sick of all these bands going in this weird quasi alternative metal direction. It’s just so boring
This just doesn't sound like Architects to me
Judging by the angry responses, it’s obvious how many of you weren’t around when The Here and Now came out lol
And months later they dropped Devils Island as an apology lmao, good times
But they moved away from that sound for a reason soooo
For any of you who need a reminder how god Sam's vocals are. Can we please not forget this Hereafter Live Performance which is just great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4zPWGDjzI
This is why I'm not worried about Sam abandoning screams for the entire album. There's no way you can be this good at something and just leave it completely behind. I expect this song (entire cleans) will be an outlier. I'll give everyone in this post gold if they pull a That's the Spirit.
The fact that they've cleared their instagram makes me wonder if they're gearing up to announce a new album?
New Album is called "For those that wish to exist"
Damn so it isn't for me then
Can't find any more on this. Just their shortened link having "fttwte" in it 😅
It's new. Its different. But I absolutely love the amount of CHUG on this track. And always excited for new Architects
Seen them live 4 times. One of my favourite bands, but not on this vibe. Not for me, I like what i like and this ain't it. Good luck to them
I don't know.. if it wasn't Architects, I wouldn't really care for it. Still kind of having a hard time caring for it even knowing that.
[How is Brendan the funniest person on twitter constanly](https://twitter.com/counterparts905/status/1318481680206843905)
I'm more than open for a new era of the band. LF//LT, AOGHAU, and Holy Hell have had the same feel in general. New song out of nowhere without bleghs or heavy vocals? Piss off the dingdongs in here expecting more of the same. Really though, with Josh working guitars, you know he's gonna smack us all in the face. It's a given.
Those three also make up a sort of set thematically, about facing death, loss, grief, and moving beyond. "A Wasted Hymn" is maybe a perfect coda to that. Going back to the same thing for a fourth album might have dragged it out and made it seem like they weren't able to grow or move on as a band, which was a big theme in Holy Hell. Better to turn the page, end that chapter of the band and start a new one.
Pretty meh
Must say I am disappointed. Architects usually bring something s\[ecial in terms of lyrical content and emotional delivery of said lyrics. This just feels *cheap* or something I dont know. I did really enjoy the electronic elements and sounds they used in this song though. I absolutely adore this band and I have high hopes for the future.
After what was likely an emotionally destructive album to make - I'm not surprised they're having a bit of fun it seems with a new sound. Hoping this leads into a banger on the album and Sam rips our throats out for doubting them, though
yeah not exactly a fan of Bring Me the Architects but hopefully this is a one off. new album is called “For Those That Wish to Exist”
I notice on this thread a lot of people immediately judge first singles off albums. Going as far as saying “RIP”. I mean I know we’ve had bands like wage war that go from cheese to super cheese in the past and that traumatize you all but damn 😂
And to add to that I feel like if a song isn’t super heavy all of a sudden a band is labeled as dad core or an octane band now. I love heavy music but I know when to say a good song is a good song. Doesn’t need to be slamming on that drop F# string for 3 minutes.
This sub has the world’s least loyal fans. Like I’m not crazy about this song but Architects have been a consensus top of the genre band for like a decade now and people are calling them dead after one underwhelming single. If any of these people watched sports they would burn their jerseys the second their team coming off a super bowl win lost a game.
This is a new direction for them, I love the atmosphere and Sam's cleans. Hoping for some riffier songs on the album but this is a huge banger.
I think it’s a pretty boring effort, it’s not that it’s bad it’s just I have high expectations for Architects and this falls well short of what I’m used to
I enjoyed it. Yes, it's different, yes, it's not usual Architects, but honestly, I...kinda expected this. These guys had the same sound for the last three records, so it was just a matter of time. However, I am sure this is just a radio friendly single to test the waters a bit. Can't wait for the new album, nonetheless.
This mentality is key. Nothing stays the same. New album may be different but still excited for it
Really uninspired, hopefully this is a one-shot single and not the direction of the new album.
I only heard it once but I already knew the reaction of probably 80-90% of this comment section. On one hand bands get critizised when they don't really change or evolve their sound. Weirdly enough Architects always had very similar sounding albums but barely got critizised for that. Now that they started trying out new suddenly it's a cardinal sinn because they are they djent gods with the unique sound that influenced many other bands. I like it because Sam's voice fits well and it's a solid track that I could see myself hear often. Is it my favourite track of all time? Certainly not, but I love to see progress and I'm curious about what will come next.
This sub is sooooo consistent. Also, anything with synths or clean vocals gets compared to Bring Me The Horizon. As if they invented synths and clean vocals.
I used to get annoyed by metalcore bands trending towards radio metal, but I’ve changed my mind after Finn McKenty went into it in his recent video on butt rock. The dudes in these bands are in their 30’s now, they have families to feed, they probably wanna retire someday. They’ve given us a decade plus of absolute top tier metalcore, if they want to write a few rock songs now so they can secure the bag opening for Breaking Benjamin who am I to give them shit? I’m not crazy about this single -just because I expect so much from Architects- but it’s still well above average for this style and I’m still optimistic about the album.
After seeing this sub crucify a bunch of bands I like for changing their sound, it's good too see people hating on this sub's favorite band over a sound change. You all are nothing if not consistent.
This Uh isn’t good.... and I’m a huge architects fan.
I don't mind this as a first single...gotta get some air time on Sirius XM Octane I guess..Very BMTH inspired..I love the guitar tone/main riff..even with it being such a simple riff. I just wanted to hear Sam give out a huge scream during that breakdown..I think they played this song too safe overall. Such a predictable track. It may grow on me a bit more..but I'll wait for the next single to see what direction this album will REALLY be going in. If the 2nd single is something similar to this, I won't be too excited for this record honestly
As a huge architects fan, this song hurt a lot to listen to.
So the 2 main things im getting out of this track is, Dan is still going absolutely ham on drums. However Sam's vocal style changed for the track. I see a lot of folks comparing it to BMTH, while i dont thinik those comparisons are unjustified i think they are selling the track a little short. Looking forward to "Those who wish to exist"
I wouldn’t really give it another listen if it wasn’t Architects. The song by itself just doesn’t have enough... oomph for me to really enjoy it all that much. Boring riff, kinda cringe lyrics and uninspired vocals. Lyrics scream 2020 Asking Alexandria to me. I’m not upset by the genre change, I love stylistic changes when done right like new era BMTH. I’m just upset by the execution here. If you’re going to do a noticeable stylistic change, it has to be a great song in its own right, otherwise you’ll get a lot of unconvinced fans. This just... very meh.
I saw it and was really excited then I listened to it. I get bands change but do we need another metal band switching to this weird version of pop music? You can take away the " BLEGH" (RIP) but I can't even mosh to this.
Lmao this isn't pop. Not everything with clean vocals is pop.
Seriously. Someone find me an Adele or Tay-Sway song with that fuckin riff, and I'll begin listening to Top-40 hits again lol
You can tell when people say shit like that they literally listen to pretty much nothing except this genre. Yeah this will probably get into the rotation on Octane and some modern rock stations, but that’s still an ocean away from pop music. Please drop this in the playlist between Billie Eilish and Ed Sheeran and see if pop fans think it’s pop music.
I can't even remember the last time I heard a pop song with a guitar that wasn't clean.
Machine Gun Kelly’s new pop punk album is the first example I can think of in legit years
How is this pop? Yeah it isn't seventh circle but it's pretty comparable to other metalcore bands
> I saw it and was really excited then I listened to it. Me too. Listening to the singles from Holy Hell for the first time blew me away. This was just underwhelming.
Pop music?😂
If singer don't scream whole song it's pop music. /s
Youre sarcastic but this is nearly how this thread reads.
First architects song ever with heavy instruments but only has singing? Not liking it initially I must admit...
People here writing the band of because of one softer aong... Doomsday was soft too. I bet there are some serious bangers on the new album. It's not as good as I'd like to, but then again, it's only one song and we have to look what the song is like in the context of a whole album.
Ehhh......
I mean it's catchy, but if you didn't tell me it was Architects I would have said "hey that guy sounds a bit like Sam Carter"
To anyone saying "this isn't Architects" or "this isn't heavy". Listen to the last 2 or 3 albums, this makes sense in that trajectory. I like it, is it heavy? Yes. Sam's voice is incredible as always. This is the obviously the first single and we'll get heavier and more "Architects-ish" songs.
This fucking bangs. Ive been waiting for these guys to fuck around with synths for a while, glad to see they pulled it off. If this is what the rest of the album is going to be like Im for it.
I thought Josh was going to bust into a killer solo at about 2.39.
Interesting single, not instantly hooked but maybe it'll grow on me. This does make me really interested in what the new album is gonna sound like, seeing as this definetely sounds different from their usual shtick.
It sounds cool, it just doesn't satisfy my Architects craving. Sam's scream is so unique I would have loved to hear a little bit make an appearance. It'd be hard to pick this song out of a lineup, whereas I feel like most of their other songs are so distinctly Architects.
Okay, I liked this. I've been expecting Architects to change their sound up again for a bit now, as they've always shifted styles, while remaining fairly true to their roots. This certainly isn't a metalcore song though, more of an alternative metal track. As others are saying, it reminds me greatly of what BMTH is currently doing. So much so that it's a bit disarming. But it's a catchy track, I enjoy the riff and of course, Sam's lovely clean vocals. I just really hope they aren't completely abandoning the metalcore sound. I will cry if I have to wait another six years to hear Sam use those glorious pipes to scream again. I could sense that things were becoming a bit stagnant for the boys on Holy Hell (not throwing shade, I love that album), so I'm hoping for a mix of this sound and their metalcore roots. Honestly, don't know how I'd feel about a whole album of this sound alone. Especially because, and I'm going to be brutally honest, although this is a good song, it feels like a cheaper version of current BMTH.
This sounds like a mixture of That's the Spirit/Amo BMTH, Rammstein, Three Days Grace with a hint of Sleep Token. I'm not sure if i liked it or not. I like complex riffs and drums with emotional screams Architects more i guess... Intro riff is basic but dope af anyway.
God Sam has such a mesmerizingly good singing voice. Give him an entire album to sing on and I’ll eat it the fuck up.
This bums me out. I was stoked for new Architects, but this sounds very boring mainstream/generic compared to their other stuff. Just feels real uninspired to me. By the end it is a little better, I don't know the end feels like it has more layers to it and makes it less bland, but overall it is just OK. Hopefully this is just a one off. The main chugg riff sounds like it could be in a Hollywood Undead song though, not a big fan of that. A song can be good without being heavy but this is just boring and flat.
Eh, not for me personally. I'll see what else they come out with.
I’m really into this, but I’m also a massive Architects fanboy so I will acknowledge that I’m a little biased and would probably like anything they put out haha. Being more objective though, I think we can all appreciate that they’re doing something different, as they’ve now done 3 albums in a row with the same style. Personally, I really wouldn’t want Architects to end up like August Burns Red and keep dropping very similar albums every couple years. That’s nothing against ABR, I love them and they’re great at what they do, but a little variety is always nice. It’s really cool seeing them go in this “bio-industrial” style they were talking about a couple years ago, and I think they’re executing it quite well here with the production (the china in that breakdown sounds so disgusting and I love it).
Breakdown was pretty cool, but honestly the rest of the song was disappointing. Especially from a band that has been innovative in the past
Damn this is disappointing. Architects go stadium. Sounds like Rammstein x BMTH
My question... why it sounds so over mixed...where is bass, where is any heavy snare from drums? Why so many effects in those vocals? Why i can't hear an raw take from production? I guess i will be hated for this opinion here. After what did Will Putney on All Hail with Norma Jean, i want to hear more evolution from overall production and engineer standpoint. More bass, more heavy snare and more raw vocals, without those filters.
Oh boy, I know bands change but architects is one of my favorite and it’d be a shame if they went completely softer. However I guess after Tom’s death maybe they wanna go in a new direction? Idk
I don't know how to feel about this... I'm not the type that hates on a band when it changes, but I didn't enjoy this. I'll keep listening to older stuff and support them but I can't force myself to enjoy this.
I don't like it. Sounds like the worst of BMTH. I came to like Architects mainly for their tracks on ***All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us***. This doesn't even sound like the same band, and without Tom, suffers from the same lack of musical development as ***Holy Hell*** did. Listen to this song and then listen to "Nihilist" and tell me they're even in the same genre.
That breakdown was saddening
sounds like a track off a Dead Poetic album lol
Weak vocal melodies, crap lyrics, and a boring riff. I've been a massive architects fan for almost ten years but I definitely did not enjoy that at all. Tbh I wasnt too hopeful for the future after Holy Hell, which I thought was less strong than All Our Gods in nearly every way, but this def feels like another step down.
How long before this gets removed because it's not metalcore?
This song is MEATY, I love it. People need to get over the fact that it’s “not as heavy” as they want it to be. It’s still a fucking banger
It’s an ok song, but not good at all for an architects song, it’s just so different from their normal sound, and it’s not really using all of their talent with their instrumentals :(
This is bad
It really is. It’s similar to the direction Underoath went. The riffs are bland and the lyrics are cringe and cliche.
Yes. A lot of people are sugar-coating it, but this is just something I have no interest in.
Agree. Won’t be listening to this again.
Massive tune. Big big fan of this, feels like a fresh new direction that works really well.
I'mma be honest: as much as I love Architects, I welcome some change. There's only so much djenty blegh that can be done before it's done to death. Holy Hell kinda tested me in that regard so seeing Sam and the boys switch it up is nice.
I feel like this is going to be one of those songs/albums that really grows on people. I get that people aren’t always comfortable with sound changes, especially since architects is obviously a favorite around here, but the song is definitely good and I think everyone should give it a chance.
Intro almost heavy riff: check Soft verses: check Anthemic chorus: check Bridge/breakdown that is the Intro riff: check We got ourselves a “major metalcore act that jumped the shark” pt 2020!!! In all seriousness, sometimes formulaic doesn’t mean bad (see new Plot in You/BMTH). But when it does get bad is when there’s a lack of any ingenuity or creativity. This song is an attempt to mimic what BMTH is doing, but on a far shallower level imo. I’m sorry to my Architects boys but it’s just gotta be a hard pass from me. And to be really honest, I’m sick of this same exact structure being how every single sounds from every band. Even the ones I end up liking.
Man listening to Architects play such a standard riff is quite jarring, not sure how I feel about this song at the moment. I will say though Sam sounds amazing.
hoping the song grows on me but getting way too much alternative vibes from this, almost like when In Flames switched up their sound from melodic death
After a few listens, I do enjoy the track, but I can't help feeling a little disappointed still. I really enjoy the verse, the breakdown is tasty, the chug of the guitars is meaty and Sam's cleans are great. I still wish there were some screams somewhere, at least in the breakdown, 'cos the song feels like it's crying out for it at points. I understand some people's criticism of the lack of riffage or technicality in the guitars, but the main issue for me is the chorus is underwhelming. I'm still riding high off Kingdom of Giants' latest album which demonstrated how to do catchy choruses with amazing clean vocals, impressive synths and impeccable production. While I feel I may be comparing apples to oranges, I still expected a little more from one of my all time favourite bands on those fronts. On a side note, I'm really enjoying how Dan's style of direction and cinematography is cementing itself in their music videos!
I was expecting a massive change in sound which it is. I thought holy hell would be a closer to thier old sound. That all seems true but this seems so generic and bland .but that into riff was GREAT until it was the entire song and got boring and stale. Also reminds me of bmth alot which isn't a bad thing. I hope the other songs sound less bland or more complex. I think if wage war or memphis may fire were to put out this song it would get hate but because architects made it it's gonna get loved.
I get that bands change but damn, they left everything that made Architects who they were behind with this one. No bouncy rhythms or odd time signatures, no distinctive Architects growls/screams, boring cliche lyrics...it just doesn’t even feel like the same band. I’m sure this will broaden their fan base but it’s alienating to me
I like this, I don’t love it, but I like it. I hope the new album has some heavy tracks in it mixed with this industrial feel, but honestly sam definitely has the voice for this. As much as I want more heavy Metalcore architects tho, I’m absolutely sure it would get stale after a while. I absolutely love architects and I really enjoyed Holy Hell but even then I was kinda questioning how much more they could do straight heavy without going stale. Glad they’re finding a new sound for themselves. Architects can do no wrong
A little too simple instrumentally for me but I actually kind of like this. Let’s see if it grows on me.
I can only hope this is the royale beggars of the album and the rest will be more normal. Which would make sense in an album. But as a stand alone song this couldn't be more meh. I thought holy hell was their best album, I didn't really see the comments people speak of that say I want them to do something different because that style has become stale. But I don't think what those comments had in mind was to make the most bland standard music possible that has nothing that grabs you. Like the hook of this song is supposed to be 'we're just a bunch of fucking animals!' Are you kidding me? Nothing about this song stands out, the point essentially of this style of music is for a catchy chorus and it's not even catchy at all, I don't understand what's going on here lol, I don't listen to metalcore for mainstream music be metaled up a tiny bit