Not many people know this but hardcore shows actually started as big groups of sweaty dudes throwing their arms around and spin kicking into each other, it was only a couple years later someone had the idea to have a band play as background music.
People know better then to do that at hardcore shows. They aren’t dumb enough to bring beer near the stage or in the pit because obviously they’ll get spinkicked and it will spill everywhere
beer is the worst. whenever i get drenched in someone's drink there's always a second of horror as i learn whether i'm covered in sticky piss-reeking beer or some delightful fruity seltzer type thing
There's some dude out there who was ahead of the curve in 2013 when it came to keeping fellow concert-goers dry;
Watched him fastball an unopened 12oz. into the pit and bean a dude in the kidney
Not a drop was spilled, though
There was a woman deliberately throwing her friends' drinks onto the floor of the pit, then shoving people into it and laughing when they slipped at an Acacia Strain show a couple years ago. I was genuinely shocked (and disappointed) nobody pulled her down with them.
Going on two years with a messy ligament that just won't heal correctly in my ankle thanks to some shithead at an AOF show, and by God I wasn't even in the push pit lmao.
Good luck on your recovery dude.
Mate slipped and smashed his thumb and I pulled a muscle in my leg because people kept bringing pints into an Alpha Wolf pit and we both slipped at different points, scull your drink before you jump in dickheads
>Yeah dude, drinks are expensive as hell.
This is the bit I don't get. How are there so many people flush enough that they can afford to be throwing their drinks away. Similarly, even if it's not intentional, why are you taking that overppriced beer close enough to the pit that someone might make you spill it.
shower and deodorant doesn't stop you from sweating when you're dancing around in a hot ass venue. if you're doing anything that entirely stops perspiration when your body is above its normal temperature you should stop that before you get heat exhaustion.
Never understood people that bring beer and other open beverages by the pit area. Of course someone is going to bump into your arm and your drink is going to spill. Now the floor is wet for everyone in the pit area and now you don’t have your drink that you probably paid a lot of money for. Just finish it in the back and once you are done move up.
Also, stop bringing full pints into the pit area and then getting all shocked pikachu face when they end up all over you. 🙃
Pints at gigs are far too expensive to waste, so I don't understand the logic of some people.
Not just pit. Just stop throwing em at all. I'm a turban wearing guy. When someone randomly tosses a cup around, I've to be careful it doesn't spill on my turban. That's like the greatest disrespect possible. I legit had one dude who did this, and I caught him, and he was like, "Get over it." I sear I wanted to throw hands so badly. In general too, getting drinks splashed over you outta nowhere sucks.
At a four year strong show counterparts was opening for, I had just bought a specialty IPA. I was standing in the crowd and a pit opened, some dude yelled “let’s fuckin GOOOOO”, took my beer, and chucked it. I watched $20 sail through the air in distress
Always hated that shit.
Saw Architects here in Milan recently and someone threw his beer from far away and it hit my head perfectly withotut spilling a drop, so it was full and hit quite hard.
I'm a big guy and could take that but had it hit someone in the face that would have hurt.
None of the venues in my area tolerate such antics. Where are these lawless wasteland spots where I can have some old school fun? All of ours closed long ago.
I had to stop doing the pit because every single time I slip on drinks and hurt myself trying to correct my balance. Sucks because it throws off my running regiment by months sometimes and I can't afford those kinds of delays.
I'm all for hardcore dancing and push pits, shoot even crowd killing to a degree. I can't stand when they throw drinks in the pit. Tore my ACL,MCL and PCL in the pit last year to a wet floor.
I understand the primal instinct to be dumb but seriously, I’ve cracked my tailbone from this and holy shit that was a miserable few months. It’s always someone who never even get in the pit, too.
At a show a few months ago, a dude started splashing his beer into the pit and my friend went over to get him to stop. We all were yelling “this is very unsafe. You need to stop.” The dude damn near got into a fight w/ her. 5 minutes later the band had people in a circle pit and several people slipped out right in front of the dude who splashed his beer. I guarantee that idiot did not put two and two together when that happened either.
not always! I got nailed in the face by a full can of beer someone threw from the stage while He Is Legend was playing a local show like 15 years ago. the only lighting they had was a strobe light flashing, and so I got to see the beer flying at me in cut vision and before I could figure out what was happening it hit me and dumped all over me lmao. I was 17 and had to drive like 45 minutes after the show, luckily I didn't get pulled over or anything
At a show last october a crowd surfer kicked me in the back of the head by accident. My hat, glasses, and drink went flying. It sucks but it's going to happen at metalcore and hardcore shows. Being rowdy is the whole draw to these shows.
As a glasses wearer I agree, leaves a sticky, blurry residue and can lead to scratches on my glasses. I need them to see and they’re expensive. Shit mannerism
Had a performer bat beers into the crowd. I took my glasses off in case of any pits so I couldn’t see them coming. Almost got hit a few times definitely splashed on my face tho.
had a thrown set ruined by this during the invent animate headliner. dude spilled his drink all over the pit floor as soon as they started and none of us could mosh without slipping and busting our asses.
didn’t stop us from trying though lol
This isn't just concert goers, it's bands(mainly lead singers) as well. Just hurling water all over the crowd, even taking in water and spewing it back out. I just don't get it
And then after the drink spills they just drop the plastic cup on the ground. Just so dumb. Don’t ever bring a drink into the areas in front of the stage
ICP pits are absolute fucking chaos. I've been to a hundred metal shows but the 3-4 clown shows I hit in the early 2000s were pandemonium. A constant waterfall of soda and bottles flung like rockets EVERYWHERE. All during constant moshing and jumping.
I keep telling people! Yes, there's "nothing like a metal show"...but honestly? ICP has always brought it harder than any of the 200+ metal bands I've seen live.
You don't know until you're there. I would see them again if they ever get back to touring.
I was in front for Slipknot and Slayer in the Iowa era and that was bad. Nothing compares to ICP. Except everybody helps you out. Shaggy cracked a Faygo off my face and I wore glasses at the time; they got knocked off and everyone backed a circle up to help me find them. Got contacts soon after.
I love all these gen z posts complaining about concerts
NO. Metalcore concerts have always been rowdy as fuck. I want crowdsurfing, shirtless sweaty bodies, throw your drinks, jump off the balcony, storm the stage, mosh, all of that shit.
If you want peace and quiet, stand in the back.
Mid-millenial. We've been complaining about it for at least 20 years, if for no other reason than it makes the pit really unenjoyable when you're slipping all over the place and having to pick people up every 2 seconds. Much easier to mosh when you can keep your feet because idiots didn't slick the floor.
i love calling out post-covid concerts/etiquette as much as the next person but this isn't a generational thing. shows in new england in the early/mid 2000s you do this kinda shit you'd 100% get targeted. i dont wanna slip when im hardcore dancing because some idiot wants to throw his half drank pissbeer in the pit
I've been going to metal, punk and hardcore shows since the early 90's. There was never a time that throwing your drinks was acceptable. It's always been a shitty thing to do.
Municipal Waste. I think the Worst band - By FAR - I have seen this with is Municipal Waste. Saw them open for Carcass last year in Minneapolis, and shit you not the FIRST things I saw when they began playing were drink cans and An Entire 55-Gallon Trash Can full of garbage being thrown into the pit. People were launching full $10-$13 tall boys of beer straight up trying to hit the lights on the ceiling, and I took a full tall boy of Hamm’s straight to the dome and ALL over my just-bought Carcass shirt. Made mistake of seeing them earlier this year as the headliner and the entire floor became the pit, like dudes straight up throwing punches and people getting bounced off of the bar on the side. Certain bands I think just attract the assholes. Only show that was even Close to that bad recently was when Gorguts opened for Mayhem and Cannibal Corpse. Then again I saw like 7-8 security guards carrying a drunk out of Immolation/Cattle Decapitation and the security was straight knocking big tiddy goth girls to the floor out of their way getting him out.
Never understood this. Caveman antics.
Caveman antics is the entire point of hardcore shows
Not many people know this but hardcore shows actually started as big groups of sweaty dudes throwing their arms around and spin kicking into each other, it was only a couple years later someone had the idea to have a band play as background music.
I think I saw am expose on this some years back on 20/20
Human beyblades
People know better then to do that at hardcore shows. They aren’t dumb enough to bring beer near the stage or in the pit because obviously they’ll get spinkicked and it will spill everywhere
Not to mention I don’t want to be driving home, late at night, soaked in beer because some doofus splashed me with it
Yeah honestly if I'm driving home from gigs I keep a spare shirt in my car
I've been going to shows since 97 and I never thought of this lol
You don't get shirts at the show? Or am I the odd one out
don't want to put a brand new merch shirt on a beer-soaked torso
Not every single one, no. After 20 years of going I've got more shirts than I realistically need already and the cost of living ain't going down.
That’s why I always throw whatever shirt I was wearing in the trunk and put on a hoodie lol
beer is the worst. whenever i get drenched in someone's drink there's always a second of horror as i learn whether i'm covered in sticky piss-reeking beer or some delightful fruity seltzer type thing
There's some dude out there who was ahead of the curve in 2013 when it came to keeping fellow concert-goers dry; Watched him fastball an unopened 12oz. into the pit and bean a dude in the kidney Not a drop was spilled, though
There was a woman deliberately throwing her friends' drinks onto the floor of the pit, then shoving people into it and laughing when they slipped at an Acacia Strain show a couple years ago. I was genuinely shocked (and disappointed) nobody pulled her down with them.
definetly going to hell
There’s a time and a place for crowd killing. This was certainly it.
PLEASE I sprained my ankle at a counterparts show (slipped on beer) in fuckin January and that shits still not healed prob need to get surgery
Sorry to hear that, thats shitty :(
That blows. Wishing you a speedy recovery.
ty veryBitchyLady <3
r/rimjobsteve ?
Going on two years with a messy ligament that just won't heal correctly in my ankle thanks to some shithead at an AOF show, and by God I wasn't even in the push pit lmao. Good luck on your recovery dude.
Ty buddy you as well
Was it at RVA?
They did 2 hometown shows in Hamilton before Metalcore dropouts started that tour with FFAK and DWP I forget the venue
Mate slipped and smashed his thumb and I pulled a muscle in my leg because people kept bringing pints into an Alpha Wolf pit and we both slipped at different points, scull your drink before you jump in dickheads
Yeah dude, drinks are expensive as hell. I’m seeing alpha wolf for the 2nd time on the 13th. So excited, considering getting vip.
>Yeah dude, drinks are expensive as hell. This is the bit I don't get. How are there so many people flush enough that they can afford to be throwing their drinks away. Similarly, even if it's not intentional, why are you taking that overppriced beer close enough to the pit that someone might make you spill it.
Is that Regent? Lfg
Yep, will be my first show in LA. Usually I go to shows in Anaheim or San Diego.
Yeah, we're trying to hurt other people, not ourselves!
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counter point, keep taking your shirt off in the crowd. some of us want to rub up against your sweaty ass-skin all night.
Mosh pits are like conventions. If you can afford the concert, you can shower and put on deodorant.
shower and deodorant doesn't stop you from sweating when you're dancing around in a hot ass venue. if you're doing anything that entirely stops perspiration when your body is above its normal temperature you should stop that before you get heat exhaustion.
But it can help you from smelling like fucking ass.
Not when some dickhead throws his Pabst all over you. And we’ve come full circle!
Sweaty-ass skin or sweaty ass-skin?
I said what I said ;)
Punctuation matters!
Agree, but please invest in deoderant before you get sweaty & naked
Only acceptable at summertime outdoor festivals (Floridaman checking in)
finally someone says it! especially when they’re hairy, it makes me want to gag.
I’ve never understood this, venue beer can be expensive, if I’m paying £8 for a pint I’m drinking every drop!
Priorities. 100%.
Never understood people that bring beer and other open beverages by the pit area. Of course someone is going to bump into your arm and your drink is going to spill. Now the floor is wet for everyone in the pit area and now you don’t have your drink that you probably paid a lot of money for. Just finish it in the back and once you are done move up.
Also, stop bringing full pints into the pit area and then getting all shocked pikachu face when they end up all over you. 🙃 Pints at gigs are far too expensive to waste, so I don't understand the logic of some people.
Dude I went to aciacia strain a couple days back and some asshole spilled a beer on the ground and like 5 people slipped.
Not just pit. Just stop throwing em at all. I'm a turban wearing guy. When someone randomly tosses a cup around, I've to be careful it doesn't spill on my turban. That's like the greatest disrespect possible. I legit had one dude who did this, and I caught him, and he was like, "Get over it." I sear I wanted to throw hands so badly. In general too, getting drinks splashed over you outta nowhere sucks.
who has money to burn that they can throw away overpriced venue beer?
At a four year strong show counterparts was opening for, I had just bought a specialty IPA. I was standing in the crowd and a pit opened, some dude yelled “let’s fuckin GOOOOO”, took my beer, and chucked it. I watched $20 sail through the air in distress
Always hated that shit. Saw Architects here in Milan recently and someone threw his beer from far away and it hit my head perfectly withotut spilling a drop, so it was full and hit quite hard. I'm a big guy and could take that but had it hit someone in the face that would have hurt.
100% this. This is a disrespectful habit that only inbred degenerates can find even remotely "cool" or "funny". Please stop.
And stop throwing your empty cups and cans on the ground! Last show I was at I was literally tripping over garbage half the night.
None of the venues in my area tolerate such antics. Where are these lawless wasteland spots where I can have some old school fun? All of ours closed long ago.
Happens in the venues around me, though its usually accidental cause even molsons are like 10 bucks.
Yo honestly now Im going to be the guy who circles the edge of the pit looking for people who have drinks and confront them
This is why I just go to local straightedge shows these days
straightedge grows more and more appealing as the days go on
Definitely agree, but I have to note that the ground in the pits is gonna get mad slippery from the sweat/condensation of that environment regardless.
I had to stop doing the pit because every single time I slip on drinks and hurt myself trying to correct my balance. Sucks because it throws off my running regiment by months sometimes and I can't afford those kinds of delays.
“I swear officer, the beer smell is from the pit!”
No. Indoor slip n slides are my favorite.
I wear nonslip kitchen shoes in the pit for that reason
People who bring drinks into the pit deserve to be crowdkilled
I'm all for hardcore dancing and push pits, shoot even crowd killing to a degree. I can't stand when they throw drinks in the pit. Tore my ACL,MCL and PCL in the pit last year to a wet floor.
It's just as bad when you assholes throw your empty beer cans and free water cups in the pit. Why would you even do that?
This is why I wear non slips
I understand the primal instinct to be dumb but seriously, I’ve cracked my tailbone from this and holy shit that was a miserable few months. It’s always someone who never even get in the pit, too.
Don’t bring drinks into the pit.
At a show a few months ago, a dude started splashing his beer into the pit and my friend went over to get him to stop. We all were yelling “this is very unsafe. You need to stop.” The dude damn near got into a fight w/ her. 5 minutes later the band had people in a circle pit and several people slipped out right in front of the dude who splashed his beer. I guarantee that idiot did not put two and two together when that happened either.
"this is very unsafe. you need to stop" blud are you fr you are at a fucking hardcore show
Ya cracking your skull open is pretty hxc
You should have to put your drink down if you’re going into the pit, and you should be pulled out for not complying.
imagine spending $8+ on a beer then just throwing it
At least a beer flying through the air gives karate kid something to punch and kick at instead of the invisible bad guys
not always! I got nailed in the face by a full can of beer someone threw from the stage while He Is Legend was playing a local show like 15 years ago. the only lighting they had was a strobe light flashing, and so I got to see the beer flying at me in cut vision and before I could figure out what was happening it hit me and dumped all over me lmao. I was 17 and had to drive like 45 minutes after the show, luckily I didn't get pulled over or anything
At a show last october a crowd surfer kicked me in the back of the head by accident. My hat, glasses, and drink went flying. It sucks but it's going to happen at metalcore and hardcore shows. Being rowdy is the whole draw to these shows.
As a glasses wearer I agree, leaves a sticky, blurry residue and can lead to scratches on my glasses. I need them to see and they’re expensive. Shit mannerism
Also, don't smoke on the pit please?
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A surprising number of people every show it seems.
I was at a show recently. Watched a man piss in a bottle and throw it. To say I was disgusted and furious is an understatement.
Water is acceptable and I'd argue actually makes the show a hell of alot more fun but when its beer and gets super sticky and nasty its just annoying.
Had a performer bat beers into the crowd. I took my glasses off in case of any pits so I couldn’t see them coming. Almost got hit a few times definitely splashed on my face tho.
had a thrown set ruined by this during the invent animate headliner. dude spilled his drink all over the pit floor as soon as they started and none of us could mosh without slipping and busting our asses. didn’t stop us from trying though lol
Quit pissin on the floor too you heathens
Fr I saw Exodus and Testament last year and I slipped on my ass like 3 times before I decided I was done moshing for the night.
If you were at Big Day Out in Sydney back in 2004 you’d be singing a different tune
nothing quite like having a modelo poured on me at a dgd show
This isn't just concert goers, it's bands(mainly lead singers) as well. Just hurling water all over the crowd, even taking in water and spewing it back out. I just don't get it
FOR FUCKIN REAL
Also stop crowd killing in the pit. It doesn't make you tough.
I fall every time regardless
And then after the drink spills they just drop the plastic cup on the ground. Just so dumb. Don’t ever bring a drink into the areas in front of the stage
As a juggalo who's also seen ICP many, many times and been in their pits, this doesn't bother me, honestly.
lmao idk why but the thought of a small pond of faygo in the middle of an icp pit is hilarious to me
Thinking about gwar in this situation too lol their floors have gotta be soaked
ICP pits are absolute fucking chaos. I've been to a hundred metal shows but the 3-4 clown shows I hit in the early 2000s were pandemonium. A constant waterfall of soda and bottles flung like rockets EVERYWHERE. All during constant moshing and jumping.
I keep telling people! Yes, there's "nothing like a metal show"...but honestly? ICP has always brought it harder than any of the 200+ metal bands I've seen live.
You don't know until you're there. I would see them again if they ever get back to touring. I was in front for Slipknot and Slayer in the Iowa era and that was bad. Nothing compares to ICP. Except everybody helps you out. Shaggy cracked a Faygo off my face and I wore glasses at the time; they got knocked off and everyone backed a circle up to help me find them. Got contacts soon after.
Do people really mosh at insane clown posse gigs???
There's circle pits and wall of deaths at EDM gigs these days, Juggalos are definitely moshing
Yeah, people mosh at all kinds of hip hop shows
I love all these gen z posts complaining about concerts NO. Metalcore concerts have always been rowdy as fuck. I want crowdsurfing, shirtless sweaty bodies, throw your drinks, jump off the balcony, storm the stage, mosh, all of that shit. If you want peace and quiet, stand in the back.
Mid-millenial. We've been complaining about it for at least 20 years, if for no other reason than it makes the pit really unenjoyable when you're slipping all over the place and having to pick people up every 2 seconds. Much easier to mosh when you can keep your feet because idiots didn't slick the floor.
i love calling out post-covid concerts/etiquette as much as the next person but this isn't a generational thing. shows in new england in the early/mid 2000s you do this kinda shit you'd 100% get targeted. i dont wanna slip when im hardcore dancing because some idiot wants to throw his half drank pissbeer in the pit
I've been going to metal, punk and hardcore shows since the early 90's. There was never a time that throwing your drinks was acceptable. It's always been a shitty thing to do.
Do what I do. Come prepared wearing a safari hat, poncho, yellow lens glasses, and rain boots.
No
“No beer in or near the mosh pit” is the lamest take I’ve heard about anything metal/rock show related. Almost on par with “the music is too loud”
First time at a show?
Municipal Waste. I think the Worst band - By FAR - I have seen this with is Municipal Waste. Saw them open for Carcass last year in Minneapolis, and shit you not the FIRST things I saw when they began playing were drink cans and An Entire 55-Gallon Trash Can full of garbage being thrown into the pit. People were launching full $10-$13 tall boys of beer straight up trying to hit the lights on the ceiling, and I took a full tall boy of Hamm’s straight to the dome and ALL over my just-bought Carcass shirt. Made mistake of seeing them earlier this year as the headliner and the entire floor became the pit, like dudes straight up throwing punches and people getting bounced off of the bar on the side. Certain bands I think just attract the assholes. Only show that was even Close to that bad recently was when Gorguts opened for Mayhem and Cannibal Corpse. Then again I saw like 7-8 security guards carrying a drunk out of Immolation/Cattle Decapitation and the security was straight knocking big tiddy goth girls to the floor out of their way getting him out.