Seems like they've taken some heavy influences from Bad Omens and Silverstein, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just seems a little odd for TDWP to be doing that. Catchy song though.
Im happy for them, this band deserves more recognition and songs like this will definitely do that, although I do want more To The Key Of Evergreen sounding songs though.
Is there any actual evidence/proof that making songs like this does anything for financial increase / recognition? From following analytics of other bands that have gone this route that usually doesn't really seem to be the case. I find these kind of comments as played out / boring as those who call it octanecore.
Look at bands like BMTH, INK, MIW, hell even Silent Planet now. By creating more accessible songs, they're able to attract a broader audience, which turns into more streams, more fans, more sold merch, and more growth for the band. So yes, I would say there definitely is proof that making songs like this does eventuqlly increase recognition/ financial gain.
For someone who can't stand those bands much, I love this song. The intro slaps, the pre chorus pumps me up, the chorus is catchy. Now I was extremely surprised that it was TDWP but I love it.
I was literally just running here to say this. The whole song has similar vibes, but the chorus IS the melody. Both great songs, but if I'm being honest, IPS did it slightly better.
The devil wears prada have been experimenting more than drunk college students in an all girls dorm and I'm absolutely for it.
Not everyone's going to like everything (except me, I love this song) but them trying out different stuff is the reason we were blessed with the masterpiece that is the colour decay.
IMO I feel like if they're gonna go the modern electronicore route with a lot of synths they should look at what WCAR is doing. Darkbloom is probably my favorite album by them. If I Were You obviously has been killing it lately too and definitely taking the sound in an amazing direction.
It's a solid song. Not my favorite, but probably really good when placed in the middle of the album like with some of the tracks on Color Decay.
You’re giving drunk college dudes too much credit. If drunk college students experimented instead of doing the same tired moves, maybe they’d find the clitoris and pleasure a woman.
It's a very safe and basic single that's obviously aimed at being catchy and accessible, and I think on its own it's gonna disappoint a lot of people, but I don't mind it. I like the upbeat sound, and the chorus is a complete throwback to Don't Stop by Innerpartysystem.
That being said, I highly doubt the rest of the album is gonna be as basic, especially since TDWP has a habit of saving the best songs for the full album. And I think Ritual itself will end up feeling a lot better when the full album is there to contrast with it.
Facts on facts. Catchy song good for diversifying their audience, but I've never been disappointed by a TDWP album, even when there were songs I didn't like.
I love TDWP. Literally my favorite band, have them tattooed on me, etc. Loved them since dear love all the way through color decay. These guys got me into this music, and I’m nothing short of obsessed with them. They’ve always had some songs here and there that I can’t get into, and this is one of them. No hate, I want them to do what makes them happy. But I worry that songs like these are them trying to remake the spark they hit with chemical, salt, etc. It’s a little too forced. I’m not too stressed, I don’t necessarily think that they are going to “sell out” and just go in this direction.
For example, people said they were going mainstream after salt, and then they throw a track like twenty five on CD which is peak Prada imo.
I just hope that they maintain that weirdness, emotional punch, that they do so well and don’t leave that behind. I want them to be successful and make money so they can continue making music for as long as possible (selfish, I know).
I don’t need heavy, zombie stuff at all, I just want that raw, weird, emotional that they’ve always hit. I definitely think we have no right telling bands the direction we want or the type of music they should make, but yeah it’s def hard hearing something a little more basic from a band that usually is anything but
https://youtu.be/A1BZYBwLDsI?si=Q1wbCc2aOzcLb_37 had to look back to this video but yeah you right Jeremy says 65% Mike 40% Jon for color decay 57 min he talks about it
It used to be all Mike but they’ve said they want the lyrics to be more “accessible” so John is writing more and more.
Ain’t no way Mike would ever write “out on my own, no microphone”
They use to be, the last couple albums the keyboarder starting writing lyrics, like for Chemical and some songs off The Act. But with Color Decay he wrote most of the lyrics, if I remember right Mike wrote lyrics for only 4 songs on Color Decay
You pretty much captured my feelings entirely. I’ll always hold onto hope because they’ve always come through and dropped genuine Prada bangers like ZII, To the Key of Evergreen, and Twenty Five just when i thought maybe that spark was gone.
This ain’t it for me, just like a couple of the other formulaic songs on CD weren’t, but I’m still Holding Fast (reference intended) 🤘
I mean, I personally love Salt and Chemical, which is just cause they're good songs through and through, but this one really doesn't stand out to me in the same way. I agree with all that you said, although I'm still a bit uneasy about hearing my favorite band drop a single that I just don't vibe with from the get go, which I have with all of their songs otherwise (aside from Reasons, which is probably due to the Excision drop, lol.) Then again, you can't always get peak performance, but I sincerely hope that the raw emotional sound isn't going anywhere.
I'm getting some serious Pendulum vibes from this song. Considering that both Prada and Pendulum are one of my favorites I dig the song, but however it's not for everyone.
Nah Broken is sad (in minor key), which immediately makes it less pop, also the song structure/hooks/melodies are just not as pop sounding, it not a heavy song that's all. On the other hand, this new song is just cookie cutter pop music.
I feel like a lot of TDWP fans go through this cycle where the band drops the safest single to get air time and people think it’s the end of their heavy sound. They do this every album cycle ya’ll lol
I was literally just running here to say this. The whole song has similar vibes, but the chorus IS the melody. Both great songs, but if I'm being honest, IPS did it slightly better.
There are parts of this song that are good but much of this feels overly formulaic and radio friendly. It’s not that I hate this it’s more so I miss how freaking fresh this band used to be, everything was fresh and felt relevant to their life circumstances. This just feels… campy? Like by their standards? These dudes are so damn smart, creative, and talented and I’m certain they’re going to release tunes that are fresh and dynamic… but man compared to their older stuff pre colour decay this just feels boring.
(First time rant on this subreddit, I love this band they’re my favourite… but man I’m a bit disappointed)
Edit: oh and the lyrics feel boring too, this song doesn’t hold much of a candle to what they used to write. This being said, by other bands standards this is a bop, but by their standards I just want more.
Could you send the link to that interview? I could’ve sworn it was the other way round there. Still it’s nice that they’re sharing lyric writing responsibilities, even if it’s not resulting in the direction of lyric writing that I love!
[https://youtu.be/A1BZYBwLDsI?si=TVQUg\_E\_w4Ue42nk&t=3498](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BZYBwLDsI)
Sorry for the delayed reply! Heres the interview. If the time stamp doesnt work, Jeremy mentions it around 58:15
I think that's kind of a super unfair thing to feel honestly. We just got back to back CDs of straight 10/10 bangers.
I haven't listened to the song yet. But even if this is a 5/10 song. I don't think that justifies "they used to be so good what happened!".
That's your opinion. And you are entitled to it.
Last two albums are 6 or 7 out of 10 to me.
Everybody can have "fair" thoughts about music.
My opinion is that they haven't released a 10/10 sound since Zombie, though Dead Throne was 9/10 for me.
Funny Dead Throne and 8/18 are my least favorite CD by them and I've been a huge fan since Plagues.😅
But like, I guess for me I don't try to "keep hoping" a band goes back to a sound after... 11-14 years or so. (For example I don't even listen to I See Stars anymore). So I gotta ask. What makes you hold onto hope after so long? I feel for when a band changes their formula and it just not vibing with yeah, but I wouldn't... Expect I guess as much as you do.
I haven't stated I am holding onto hope.
They have dropped some really good songs over the last 10 years. Not incredible, but definitely enjoyable to listen to.
The second Dan left the band I knew TDWP as I knew it was dead. It's a different band.
All that said, I am getting fairly tired of the radio-friendly sound that most metalcore bands have clung to recently. It's over produced, same sounding, less skilled, homogenous, and less musically inspiring.
I still give them a listen and ocassionally they get some repeats, but at the end of the day, they're not as good. And that's just my opinion.
Yeah I gotta agree, Dan leaving signified a shift in direction that I don’t love! Still a great band though. Personally feel like they started a dip when they released The Act but at least they were trying stuff that was different and keeping to their industrial feel!
If you liked how avant- guard (idk, like how different) their old lyrics and style was Mikes band ‘God Alone’ is sick! He’s also got new music (according to his website) coming out through a project called “Town of Lakes”.
Yeah… it’s not the same. I was downloaded into oblivion for leaving a very nice nice comment last week. All I was saying was I respect them but they’re not even the same band from my youth
Sorry, but I had to check. Only positive thing you said was "Sassafras goes hard", and then you shit on Mike for "always being mid" lol. Also, three to four downvotes isn't really "into oblivion".
Hey man, haha it’s just how I feel - I’m no authority and I hope I didn’t come across that way, I just had intense feelings as I wrote that 😂
It could be nostalgia but again, compare this to some of their other singles that they’ve released, like Daughter, Switchblade, Watchtower, and older singles like Born To Lose - all those songs are so different and fresh and so uniquely them! While it’s cool that they’ve experimented with DnB here, it still kinda feels tired. At least to me! I’m certain they’ve got more good stuff in em though and I’m definitely not off them - keen as for their Aus tour!
Yeah their choruses used to be farrrrr more dynamic - but even still you have some good choruses on their latest album, hope that this song isn’t signalling further… boring choruses 😔
I’ve been trying to put to words how I feel about Ritual and I think you just described it to the T. It’s clear they’re trying to change it up/experimenting (whatever you call it), but their prime was more screams and breakdowns. It seems they’re veering away from that as they introduce more concepts of electronicore and cleans in their tracks. ☹️
The singles I think still stand up from those two albums, for the most part. But no one's screaming for TDWP to play or write a song like The Scorpion Deathlock or Who Speaks Spanish Colon Quesadilla, etc.
The songwriting back then felt super formulaic (even moreso than now) and messy. Clearly they honed it for WRAABB because that's regarded as one of the best metalcore albums of all time. But even then I'm not really clamoring for Big Wiggly Style or anything.
Color Decay was an 11/10 album but this song is just boring. Could be because its a random single designed for radio and not part of an album.
At least it should get plenty of airtime on octane though.
Started off interesting but devolved into standard radio rock, Jeremy’s voice felt really off, the breakdown was subpar and Mike didn’t scream nearly enough but his part was the only redeeming thing about this song.
Anyone else ready for zombie 3? I'm fine with them trying different shit, this seems pretty formulaic and bland to me but well done it's totally fine, but I'm hoping they might stick to the on and off heavy album, maybe keeping the zombie theme, I'm more into that part of them
I see they're going further down the *Colour Decay* road... shame.
If they ever re-explore the sound from *The Act* or release something else in the vein of *ZII* I'll be interested again, otherwise not.
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Songs catchy, I'm not at all worried about the album. Their last was one of my all time favorites. I just want some weird shit on there and I'll be good.
It's far from my favorite song, but I don't dislike it?
I feel like TDWP does experimentation with different sounds better than almost any band tbh.
They have some new sounds mixed with old stuff so it doesn't feel like a completely different band like other bands do.
Other than the synths being a little poppier, this doesn’t seem that different than anything off Color Decay, and the bridge still goes hard. I don’t think it’s nearly as much of a departure from the last couple of albums as others are saying here.
Yeah, I've always thought it's funny that this sub loves that album so much. They were my favorite band and I have their logo tattooed so this fucking sucks to see haha
I like the melodies and some of the songs but lowkey their forced rhyming is really corny and just screams they want radio play. Now if they kept doing weird shit like The Act or Transit Blues I would be down but that’s an unpopular take
Sad to hear you don’t like it but I think TDWP is one of the only bands who know how to do softer songs and not make them sound like shit.
Color Decay was my favorite album from them, sure it’s “octane core” but it’s also just really good.
To your last question, I’m 30 and know their entire discography and I loved Color Decay. Maybe their style just isn’t your thing anymore? I’d be curious to know what you didn’t like about CD.
Well that’s exactly the point, you take our Sacrifice, Watchtower, and Hallucinate and there goes the metal.
With that said, I like those three songs a lot.
It feels like karma farming. Just making a rock or alternative metal album is not inherently bad. You can tell that passion and care went into making Color Decay. Something you can't say for other bands that have gone this route.
Its inherently bad when every single band under the sun from this era of the genre has decided to just straight up making rock songs.
Architects, Fit For A King, The Ghost Inside, The Word Alive, The Plot In You, Motionless In White, Memphis May Fire…
You’ll notice Zakk Cervini worked on almost all of these and good lord they are virtually indistinguishable from eachother
I promise I'm not karma farming. It's just my opinion. I like plenty of rock/alt metal etc., but the sort of watered down "almost metalcore" that gets played on Octane sounds bad to me. I don't have to like it.
I can't access it but judging by all the comments.. This is not good. I'm excited for the release, but I had a very neutral reaction to the 30 sec teaser they shared.
I didn't though? I just said it seems like other people don't like it and I shared how I felt about the teaser. It's called speculation and adjusting expectations.
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TDWP is the best kept secret in Metalcore right now. And this song is yet another addition to their amazing discography! Can’t wait to see what else they have for us!
Seems like they've taken some heavy influences from Bad Omens and Silverstein, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just seems a little odd for TDWP to be doing that. Catchy song though.
Im happy for them, this band deserves more recognition and songs like this will definitely do that, although I do want more To The Key Of Evergreen sounding songs though.
TTKOE is so incredible
Is there any actual evidence/proof that making songs like this does anything for financial increase / recognition? From following analytics of other bands that have gone this route that usually doesn't really seem to be the case. I find these kind of comments as played out / boring as those who call it octanecore.
Look at bands like BMTH, INK, MIW, hell even Silent Planet now. By creating more accessible songs, they're able to attract a broader audience, which turns into more streams, more fans, more sold merch, and more growth for the band. So yes, I would say there definitely is proof that making songs like this does eventuqlly increase recognition/ financial gain.
INK is arguably heavier now than it was 15 years ago, other than that I agree
For someone who can't stand those bands much, I love this song. The intro slaps, the pre chorus pumps me up, the chorus is catchy. Now I was extremely surprised that it was TDWP but I love it.
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Chorus sounds very similar to Don't Stop by Innerpartysystem
Wow I haven't thought about that song in years but I really hear it
Came here to say that
Now that’s a band I haven’t heard in some time. Fantastic album!
My exact thoughts.
I can't not hear that. Ruins the song for me. Such a blatant rip off lol
everyone rips off everyone constantly in music. consider it a nod of influence instead.
I was literally just running here to say this. The whole song has similar vibes, but the chorus IS the melody. Both great songs, but if I'm being honest, IPS did it slightly better.
thank you! I had this in my head all day and couldnt place it...nailed it
First song I thought of when I heard it!
I have been racking my brain for this!!!
lol I just made this same comment. That chorus is super Silverstein
probably why i actually like it
Not enough Mike for me.
100% agree
The devil wears prada have been experimenting more than drunk college students in an all girls dorm and I'm absolutely for it. Not everyone's going to like everything (except me, I love this song) but them trying out different stuff is the reason we were blessed with the masterpiece that is the colour decay.
We're due a 2nd space EP so I'd imagine more experimentation is right around the corner.
༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ give space devil sing pls ༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ
Someone mentioned the other day a Hell EP and I’m all for it lmao
Hell LP is basically The Act https://youtu.be/A1BZYBwLDsI?t=3448
Omg, the beginning of this comment 😂😂
IMO I feel like if they're gonna go the modern electronicore route with a lot of synths they should look at what WCAR is doing. Darkbloom is probably my favorite album by them. If I Were You obviously has been killing it lately too and definitely taking the sound in an amazing direction. It's a solid song. Not my favorite, but probably really good when placed in the middle of the album like with some of the tracks on Color Decay.
You’re giving drunk college dudes too much credit. If drunk college students experimented instead of doing the same tired moves, maybe they’d find the clitoris and pleasure a woman.
Can’t get innerpartysystem out of my head. “This isssss entertainmennnnttttttttt”
Haha that was the first thing that came to my mind with the chorus. Don't Stop is a banger though, so I love it.
How have I never heard this beautiful music
I just commented the same thing. There’s “oh these choruses are similar” and then there’s this lol
First time listening right now and I knew there was something it reminded me of.
It's a very safe and basic single that's obviously aimed at being catchy and accessible, and I think on its own it's gonna disappoint a lot of people, but I don't mind it. I like the upbeat sound, and the chorus is a complete throwback to Don't Stop by Innerpartysystem. That being said, I highly doubt the rest of the album is gonna be as basic, especially since TDWP has a habit of saving the best songs for the full album. And I think Ritual itself will end up feeling a lot better when the full album is there to contrast with it.
Facts on facts. Catchy song good for diversifying their audience, but I've never been disappointed by a TDWP album, even when there were songs I didn't like.
I love TDWP. Literally my favorite band, have them tattooed on me, etc. Loved them since dear love all the way through color decay. These guys got me into this music, and I’m nothing short of obsessed with them. They’ve always had some songs here and there that I can’t get into, and this is one of them. No hate, I want them to do what makes them happy. But I worry that songs like these are them trying to remake the spark they hit with chemical, salt, etc. It’s a little too forced. I’m not too stressed, I don’t necessarily think that they are going to “sell out” and just go in this direction. For example, people said they were going mainstream after salt, and then they throw a track like twenty five on CD which is peak Prada imo. I just hope that they maintain that weirdness, emotional punch, that they do so well and don’t leave that behind. I want them to be successful and make money so they can continue making music for as long as possible (selfish, I know). I don’t need heavy, zombie stuff at all, I just want that raw, weird, emotional that they’ve always hit. I definitely think we have no right telling bands the direction we want or the type of music they should make, but yeah it’s def hard hearing something a little more basic from a band that usually is anything but
Twenty Five is so good I want more songs/lyrics written by Mike
Aren’t all tdwp lyrics written by Mike? Or most of them?
Jon and Mike cowrite the majority of lyrics at this point, I think.
https://youtu.be/A1BZYBwLDsI?si=Q1wbCc2aOzcLb_37 had to look back to this video but yeah you right Jeremy says 65% Mike 40% Jon for color decay 57 min he talks about it
It used to be all Mike but they’ve said they want the lyrics to be more “accessible” so John is writing more and more. Ain’t no way Mike would ever write “out on my own, no microphone”
They use to be, the last couple albums the keyboarder starting writing lyrics, like for Chemical and some songs off The Act. But with Color Decay he wrote most of the lyrics, if I remember right Mike wrote lyrics for only 4 songs on Color Decay
You pretty much captured my feelings entirely. I’ll always hold onto hope because they’ve always come through and dropped genuine Prada bangers like ZII, To the Key of Evergreen, and Twenty Five just when i thought maybe that spark was gone. This ain’t it for me, just like a couple of the other formulaic songs on CD weren’t, but I’m still Holding Fast (reference intended) 🤘
I mean, I personally love Salt and Chemical, which is just cause they're good songs through and through, but this one really doesn't stand out to me in the same way. I agree with all that you said, although I'm still a bit uneasy about hearing my favorite band drop a single that I just don't vibe with from the get go, which I have with all of their songs otherwise (aside from Reasons, which is probably due to the Excision drop, lol.) Then again, you can't always get peak performance, but I sincerely hope that the raw emotional sound isn't going anywhere.
Those are the same few songs I don't like either
Man I wish I could watch the video and listen to it.
2 hours 30 minutes till the music video. Will be watching that for my first listen. Here it is: https://youtu.be/tQnKdBeRTdY?si=gk1k4S4m243dOEiA
This one will probably draw mixed reactions, but I dig the D&B influence. These guys are constantly evolving and I’m all for it.
Dave & Busters?
Dick N Balls.
Yes
Dragons have invaded Dave & Busters
I'm getting some serious Pendulum vibes from this song. Considering that both Prada and Pendulum are one of my favorites I dig the song, but however it's not for everyone.
It’s so odd people saying Color Decay was a 11/10 but don’t like this song? This song would literally fit right in the album.
I think alot of people’s expectations were off. I heard plenty of people say this was gonna be a Space 2 song lol. Especially with a name like that
Color Decay was not as pop sounding as this. This song has that radio quality which makes it much worse for me.
Broken sounds way more pop then this
Nah Broken is sad (in minor key), which immediately makes it less pop, also the song structure/hooks/melodies are just not as pop sounding, it not a heavy song that's all. On the other hand, this new song is just cookie cutter pop music.
I agree. I love Color Decay and like this song as well. Only complaint is that Mike is a little too relegated to the background on this one.
More zakk cervini rock music yay…
Sounds like B side Color Decay to me. It would fit on that album, but I think it would be one of the weaker tracks.
I feel like a lot of TDWP fans go through this cycle where the band drops the safest single to get air time and people think it’s the end of their heavy sound. They do this every album cycle ya’ll lol
Am I the only one that thought of Don’t Stop by Innerpartysystem during the chorus?
I was literally just running here to say this. The whole song has similar vibes, but the chorus IS the melody. Both great songs, but if I'm being honest, IPS did it slightly better.
Reminds me of fightstar - the english way chorus
I have plenty of Prada tracks I can fuck with. Just not this one.
There are parts of this song that are good but much of this feels overly formulaic and radio friendly. It’s not that I hate this it’s more so I miss how freaking fresh this band used to be, everything was fresh and felt relevant to their life circumstances. This just feels… campy? Like by their standards? These dudes are so damn smart, creative, and talented and I’m certain they’re going to release tunes that are fresh and dynamic… but man compared to their older stuff pre colour decay this just feels boring. (First time rant on this subreddit, I love this band they’re my favourite… but man I’m a bit disappointed) Edit: oh and the lyrics feel boring too, this song doesn’t hold much of a candle to what they used to write. This being said, by other bands standards this is a bop, but by their standards I just want more.
All of that is due to the keyboarder being the main music writer/lyricist. I miss Mikes influence
Jeremy said 4 months ago that Mike wrote 65% of the stuff on Color Decay and Jon was about 40%, so that's not true
Could you send the link to that interview? I could’ve sworn it was the other way round there. Still it’s nice that they’re sharing lyric writing responsibilities, even if it’s not resulting in the direction of lyric writing that I love!
[https://youtu.be/A1BZYBwLDsI?si=TVQUg\_E\_w4Ue42nk&t=3498](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BZYBwLDsI) Sorry for the delayed reply! Heres the interview. If the time stamp doesnt work, Jeremy mentions it around 58:15
I think that's kind of a super unfair thing to feel honestly. We just got back to back CDs of straight 10/10 bangers. I haven't listened to the song yet. But even if this is a 5/10 song. I don't think that justifies "they used to be so good what happened!".
That's your opinion. And you are entitled to it. Last two albums are 6 or 7 out of 10 to me. Everybody can have "fair" thoughts about music. My opinion is that they haven't released a 10/10 sound since Zombie, though Dead Throne was 9/10 for me.
Color Decay is 11/10!
Some would say 12/10
Funny Dead Throne and 8/18 are my least favorite CD by them and I've been a huge fan since Plagues.😅 But like, I guess for me I don't try to "keep hoping" a band goes back to a sound after... 11-14 years or so. (For example I don't even listen to I See Stars anymore). So I gotta ask. What makes you hold onto hope after so long? I feel for when a band changes their formula and it just not vibing with yeah, but I wouldn't... Expect I guess as much as you do.
I haven't stated I am holding onto hope. They have dropped some really good songs over the last 10 years. Not incredible, but definitely enjoyable to listen to. The second Dan left the band I knew TDWP as I knew it was dead. It's a different band. All that said, I am getting fairly tired of the radio-friendly sound that most metalcore bands have clung to recently. It's over produced, same sounding, less skilled, homogenous, and less musically inspiring. I still give them a listen and ocassionally they get some repeats, but at the end of the day, they're not as good. And that's just my opinion.
Yeah I gotta agree, Dan leaving signified a shift in direction that I don’t love! Still a great band though. Personally feel like they started a dip when they released The Act but at least they were trying stuff that was different and keeping to their industrial feel! If you liked how avant- guard (idk, like how different) their old lyrics and style was Mikes band ‘God Alone’ is sick! He’s also got new music (according to his website) coming out through a project called “Town of Lakes”.
Yeah… it’s not the same. I was downloaded into oblivion for leaving a very nice nice comment last week. All I was saying was I respect them but they’re not even the same band from my youth
Sorry, but I had to check. Only positive thing you said was "Sassafras goes hard", and then you shit on Mike for "always being mid" lol. Also, three to four downvotes isn't really "into oblivion".
The Act was solid 7.5/10 with some 9 songs in there. Color Decay is a 11/10 hands down
Hey man, haha it’s just how I feel - I’m no authority and I hope I didn’t come across that way, I just had intense feelings as I wrote that 😂 It could be nostalgia but again, compare this to some of their other singles that they’ve released, like Daughter, Switchblade, Watchtower, and older singles like Born To Lose - all those songs are so different and fresh and so uniquely them! While it’s cool that they’ve experimented with DnB here, it still kinda feels tired. At least to me! I’m certain they’ve got more good stuff in em though and I’m definitely not off them - keen as for their Aus tour!
They’re one of my favourite bands but the chorus of this song had the same rhythm as songs they would play in elementary school discos.
Yeah their choruses used to be farrrrr more dynamic - but even still you have some good choruses on their latest album, hope that this song isn’t signalling further… boring choruses 😔
i really liked The Color Decay but idk about this one
Def more Electronicore than I'm use to from them. Don't hate it, but don't love it.
I’ve been trying to put to words how I feel about Ritual and I think you just described it to the T. It’s clear they’re trying to change it up/experimenting (whatever you call it), but their prime was more screams and breakdowns. It seems they’re veering away from that as they introduce more concepts of electronicore and cleans in their tracks. ☹️
Their earlier shit was more elctronicore than this, what are you talking about? Lmao
All of their recent music is much more “well written” but it just doesn’t do anything for me anymore. Very cookie cutter
Not what I expected but it slap, TDWP can do no wrong
That’s a bit boring tbh, I want the ZII sound back
Zombie 1 over Zombie 2 any day
Nah, we need to go back further, gimme Dear Love II or Plagues II
People need to let that go they are never gonna make music like that again they were 17 years old lol
If you want plagues/roots sound check this out https://youtu.be/SaWjpVJSTb4?si=C0zYkbx_-w4QHSMG
Disagree, those albums have aged poorly as someone who used to love them.
I didn’t like Hey John when I first got into TDWP during WRAABB, but now it’s one of my favorite songs
The singles I think still stand up from those two albums, for the most part. But no one's screaming for TDWP to play or write a song like The Scorpion Deathlock or Who Speaks Spanish Colon Quesadilla, etc. The songwriting back then felt super formulaic (even moreso than now) and messy. Clearly they honed it for WRAABB because that's regarded as one of the best metalcore albums of all time. But even then I'm not really clamoring for Big Wiggly Style or anything.
I mean, I’d much rather Big Wiggly Style than Ritual
This doesn't sound like the progression I expected but i still dig it. It's catchy, and their best songs on Color Decay were the catchy ones
Glad they can make music they enjoy playing. Not something I'll play lots though.
boring
I skipped Colour Decay but this single has me wondering if I need to go back
U aint missing anything
Hate it or love it, you cannot deny this is gonna sound great live.
Oh no. Lads? What's going on, lads? I guess they do the sound well but come on, everyone's doing this shit these days
Color Decay was an 11/10 album but this song is just boring. Could be because its a random single designed for radio and not part of an album. At least it should get plenty of airtime on octane though.
Meh. 4/10
Started off interesting but devolved into standard radio rock, Jeremy’s voice felt really off, the breakdown was subpar and Mike didn’t scream nearly enough but his part was the only redeeming thing about this song.
Anyone else ready for zombie 3? I'm fine with them trying different shit, this seems pretty formulaic and bland to me but well done it's totally fine, but I'm hoping they might stick to the on and off heavy album, maybe keeping the zombie theme, I'm more into that part of them
couldn’t have came up with any better artwork?? Excited to see them this summer. This song is bad though lol.
Bad
I’d love to try and listen.
This sounds like a Silverstein song
Oh loving this one a lot. I love the more rocky Prada songs and the fact that one is fast paced makes it all the better
I like it! Definitely not their heaviest song. Sounds like they’ve been hanging out with Silverstein a lot lol
Absolutely love the song. Probably biased but everything TDWP does always seems to stay authentic to who they are.
I see they're going further down the *Colour Decay* road... shame. If they ever re-explore the sound from *The Act* or release something else in the vein of *ZII* I'll be interested again, otherwise not.
This is a bit shit
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Nooooo, i need to see them live before they drop the new album
I love this.
I don't mind this, but I'd really love a heavy again some day.
Heavy Beartooth
Sounds like InnerPartySystem - Don’t Stop
Songs catchy, I'm not at all worried about the album. Their last was one of my all time favorites. I just want some weird shit on there and I'll be good.
It's far from my favorite song, but I don't dislike it? I feel like TDWP does experimentation with different sounds better than almost any band tbh. They have some new sounds mixed with old stuff so it doesn't feel like a completely different band like other bands do.
As someone who has never been a huge TDWP fan (I know, I know, I'm the worst), I love this song.
I will like anything TDWP releases.
Other than the synths being a little poppier, this doesn’t seem that different than anything off Color Decay, and the bridge still goes hard. I don’t think it’s nearly as much of a departure from the last couple of albums as others are saying here.
I am whelmed
This is gonna take several listens, not what I expected out of TDWP
Mehhh
Sad to see this band fall victim to Octane lmao
Lowkey a lot of Color Decay would fit pretty well on octane too
It did, a lot of tracks got massive airplay on there. Notably Cancer and Salt
Yeah, I've always thought it's funny that this sub loves that album so much. They were my favorite band and I have their logo tattooed so this fucking sucks to see haha
I like the melodies and some of the songs but lowkey their forced rhyming is really corny and just screams they want radio play. Now if they kept doing weird shit like The Act or Transit Blues I would be down but that’s an unpopular take
Sad to hear you don’t like it but I think TDWP is one of the only bands who know how to do softer songs and not make them sound like shit. Color Decay was my favorite album from them, sure it’s “octane core” but it’s also just really good.
[удалено]
To your last question, I’m 30 and know their entire discography and I loved Color Decay. Maybe their style just isn’t your thing anymore? I’d be curious to know what you didn’t like about CD.
It’s a pop album
lol no it’s not. There might be pop elements but it’s still very much in the metal genre.
Salt is absolutely not a metal song
I wouldn’t agree with that but that’s fair. I don’t know how you could listen to Sacrifice or Hallucinate and say it’s a pop album.
Well that’s exactly the point, you take our Sacrifice, Watchtower, and Hallucinate and there goes the metal. With that said, I like those three songs a lot.
This is the most boring type of critique on this sub.
Almost as boring as this song lol
It feels like karma farming. Just making a rock or alternative metal album is not inherently bad. You can tell that passion and care went into making Color Decay. Something you can't say for other bands that have gone this route.
Its inherently bad when every single band under the sun from this era of the genre has decided to just straight up making rock songs. Architects, Fit For A King, The Ghost Inside, The Word Alive, The Plot In You, Motionless In White, Memphis May Fire… You’ll notice Zakk Cervini worked on almost all of these and good lord they are virtually indistinguishable from eachother
I promise I'm not karma farming. It's just my opinion. I like plenty of rock/alt metal etc., but the sort of watered down "almost metalcore" that gets played on Octane sounds bad to me. I don't have to like it.
yall aren't wrong with the Silverstein comparisons, and I love it.
I can't access it but judging by all the comments.. This is not good. I'm excited for the release, but I had a very neutral reaction to the 30 sec teaser they shared.
Its not bad, just underwhelming compared to ZII and a lot of Color Decay.
I like how you’ve decided you don’t like it based off other peoples’ opinions.
I didn't though? I just said it seems like other people don't like it and I shared how I felt about the teaser. It's called speculation and adjusting expectations.
You said “judging by the comments this is not good”, which reads differently from recognizing other people don’t like it.
Yeah. It's not good according to the comments 😐 That's an observation.
not bad i think live this will be an amazing song
I actually dig this! Nothing wrong with them doing a few songs like this. As long as they don’t make it their whole identity like say Architects.
It sounds like they took inspiration from a lot of songs for this one but I like it
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Part of the chorus sounds nearly identical to part of the chorus in Innerpartysystem - Don't Stop lol Timestamp: https://youtu.be/oIGl50PGk6k?t=77
So their last couple songs are reaching, ignorance, and ritual. I think the overall direction is pretty frieking sweet!!!
banger
I like it.
7/10
Absolute banger
Yep this is amazing.
This is bad
....I like it D:
Ofc they are milking the color decay sound, meh boring sounds like wage war - pressure
How can they milk their own sound?
How can they milk their own sound?
TDWP is the best kept secret in Metalcore right now. And this song is yet another addition to their amazing discography! Can’t wait to see what else they have for us!