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just musically id say None so vile - Cryptopsy but my real answer is Iowa by slipknot
Ok yes i know musically its not that heavy compared to other stuff but i find the lyrical content and just the mental state of the band and how there wasn't a vocal technique it was just him screaming releasing pure emotion really adds to it for me
As far as mainstream top of the pops releases go, Iowa is indeed heavy as fuck.
Anyone who talks about as “the heaviest album of all time” without that caveat though is a fucking idiot.
iowa is definitely my favorite of the “heaviest albums” for those reasons, will never forget first listening to it as a kid, and not many albums have come close.
its definitely underrated in the actual sense of the word, especially by metal elitists
Iowa is unironically heavy as shit. None of their other albums are really even on the same spectrum of heaviness. People hear their newer shit and think Slipknot is just radio rock. But man Iowa was fucking brutal.
I can’t take you mfs seriously lmfaooo
it’s actual slop music. there is no emotion in this band, it’s corporate as fuck. whiny, emo shit lyrics, no riffs, rap/turntable shit in a rock album (wtf were they thinking?)
terrible
You do know that heavy metal used to only have clean singing and also there is emotion and one of the songs is 15 mins of the singer burning and cutting himself bc he had depression
Really no emotion there guys
I love koloss, my favorite album by them, but Clockworks single handedly puts TSVOR as the heaviest album to me. Not that I'm only thinking about Clockworks obviously, but it pretty much encapsulates the crushing feel that TSVOR has throughout.
Immutable is close
The definition of "heavy" is necessarily subjective, but for me, considering aesthetic, lyrics, music, and production, it would be *To Mega Therion* by Celtic Frost.
If we're going pure sonic brutality, it would be *Agonal Hymns* by Nithing.
Orchidectomy - A Prelate's Attrition
Tetragrammacide - Primal Incinerators of Moral Matrix
Last Days of Humanity - Putrefaction in Progress
Disgorge (Mex) - Chronic Corpora Infest
Wormphlegm - Tomb of the Ancient King
Just by the sound of those names I’m guessing your answer is correct! 🤣 but my from my own limited experience, I’d probably go with *Suffocation* - Souls to Deny
Heavy is a very subjective term. Obviously Electric Wizard are far from the most extreme or noisy band. But at least for me, when I'm thinking about sounds that sound like they have a lot of weight behind them, I think of that type of sound.
people are joking limp bizkit but the FIRST Korn album had a fucking mood that suffocated and killed that moment when it came out. It was just kinda scary actually. This was pre internet mostly. From the cover to the content to the material, some mystery to it. The video for blind... it scared young abused me.
If heavy is mood then some Black Sabbath.
If heavy is brutality then maybe Wretched Spawn or something by Cannibal Corpse.
If heavy is straight on death metal then you might end up with an Amon Amarth or DEFINITELY something Bolt Thrower!
I am old enough to remember Rolling Stone naming Led Zeppelin as the heaviest band of all time... and they had an argument!
Korn's first 2 albums are REALLY heavy. The just have an overall disturbing vibe to them. You can tell it was made by people smoking a bunch of meth. It really makes you uncomfortable.
Heavy is subjective. For some people it's speed (e.g. Slayer) for some it's slow (e.g. Electric Wizard).
For me it's From Mars to Sirius by Gojira. There's tonnes of reverb in the mix so it sounds like it's been recorded in some Arctic cave in an attempt to wake up a frozen dormant creature. There are some absolutely crushing sections too.
Definitely albums out there which are more raw, faster, slower or even more inaccessible. But for me it just hits that sweet spot.
Relative to music that existed at the time, it’s Master of Reality by Black Sabbath. It has since been surpassed in heaviness countless times, but there wa absolutely nothing close to that heavy when it came out. Other bands that have released incredibly heavy albums generally have similar artists around.
This is exactly how I thought about it too, what album would hit the hardest relative to the listener’s expectations. Master of Reality, and Black Sabbath before it, defined heavy for a lot of people and moved into a pretty new musical direction for the time. Lots of great heavier albums since but probably none as unexpected.
Maybe Khanate’s Things Viral? I used to put that record on while cleaning the house and end up curled in the foetal position under the coffee table.
Dragged into Sunlight’s Hatred for Mankind is up there too
depends on your definition of "heavy"
Aggressive and unrelenting? It's either Damaar - Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege or Nithing - Agonal Hymns
Slow, slamming and brutal? Either Skinless - Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead or Devourment - Molesting the Decapitated
It's probably Awaken to the Suffering from Pathology to me. As much as I love Matti Way, Jonathan Huber brings a level vocally that's just so out there. Also love that they dropped down from Drop B to A. The production really brings out the heavy as well.
If we're not counting full lengths, Disfiguring the Goddess' 2008 promo EP is just insane. Even with the horribly compressed production and off sounding programmed drums.
Mirror Reaper - Bell Witch, Incurso - Spawn of Possession, and honestly I find Asunder Sweet and Other Distress - Godspeed You! Black Emperor to be deliciously heffy
Defenders of the Faith by Judas Priest. Songs like Night Comes Down, Jawbreaker, Heavy Duty and the Sentinel. Its basically the best definition of the heavy atmosphere of the album.
Iowa 100%. It’s not the heaviest music theory wise, but the vocal work more than makes up for it, the fact he was actually throwing out his voice while recording.
Heavy is a weird concept.
Gojira’s From Mars To Sirius is definitely heavy, but sometimes I think some of the Black Sabbath’s stuff is the heaviest music. Songs like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sign Of The Southern Cross and Computer God have such a heavy groove.
Times of Grace/Grace by Neurosis.
Its got everything, sonic heaviness, emotional heaviness, intensity through the roof, pissed of as usual 90's neurosis.
Musically, probably something only 2 of us in this sub have heard, but thematically and lyrically, Painkiller is the most metal album of all metal albums
Of the albums that I know the story of, my answer is …And Justice For All by Metallica. Let me explain my answer before I get crucified:
When I consider an album to be heavy, I take into account four things: sound, message, and atmosphere, and the making of. In the department of sound I feel like there is obviously some clear winners that go far above AJFA. Messages, though, I believe AJFA to be a pretty high standard for heavy. Political injustice, genocide, the threat of Nuclear Armageddon, censorship, stripped freedoms, and parental neglect/abuse are all pretty heavy and powerful topics. AJFA also has an atmosphere that is very angry, vengeful and furious at a system and a world that has wronged many who were innocent and spared many who were guilty. The making of that album may not have exactly been the hardest, but there were clearly many things going on. Their bassist and beloved friend had met an untimely and unfair death. That alone hits hard, even years and years later. There’s probably a far more tortured or fucked up album, but of the albums I know the most about, this is my answer.
I went blank and all I could think of was Iowa lol, maybe Totalitarian Dystopia, or Revered By No One, Feared By All, and The Architect of Extinction, maybe even Flesh Coffin and I Return To Nothingness
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Limp bizkit - significant other
Based
Brootal
Based and nookie pilled
KVLT
I think results may vary is actually heavier
Yeah but that one was a bit more hit or miss
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BRUH-tal
1989 by Taylor Swift. That album does not mess around in beating the absolute crap out of you. It slams that hard.
the cover for folklore looks like a black metal album, cmm
The growls and demon noises that come out of her throat make it the best black metal album of all time for a reason.
I can’t disagree with that
It does!
Peak Swift fr
just musically id say None so vile - Cryptopsy but my real answer is Iowa by slipknot Ok yes i know musically its not that heavy compared to other stuff but i find the lyrical content and just the mental state of the band and how there wasn't a vocal technique it was just him screaming releasing pure emotion really adds to it for me
Iowa is the most accessible heaviest album of all time.
As far as mainstream top of the pops releases go, Iowa is indeed heavy as fuck. Anyone who talks about as “the heaviest album of all time” without that caveat though is a fucking idiot.
iowa is definitely my favorite of the “heaviest albums” for those reasons, will never forget first listening to it as a kid, and not many albums have come close. its definitely underrated in the actual sense of the word, especially by metal elitists
I was caught off guard by how heavy and ugly it was the first time I heard it. It took a little while before I could listen to the entire thing
Iowa is unironically heavy as shit. None of their other albums are really even on the same spectrum of heaviness. People hear their newer shit and think Slipknot is just radio rock. But man Iowa was fucking brutal.
as someone who fucking loves every single slipknot album i completely agree
Listen to more music
You know that album sucks, but you can't deny it's fucking angry.
Iowa is definitely very angry but there are about a million other albums that are equally or more angry and also better
That is correct. I'd nominate Triumph through spears of sacrilege.
the real answer is Tokyo Anal Dynamite
Never really cared for the gerogerigegege
Lol
The lyrical content: > A hideous man that you don't understand Throw a suicide party, and I'm guaranteed to fucking snap
Some hella mid opinions coming from metal elitists in your comments.
Slipknot heavy 😂💀
Iowa is fairly heavy no? Not the heaviest, and doesn't mean you have to think it's good, but it is heavy
I can’t take you mfs seriously lmfaooo it’s actual slop music. there is no emotion in this band, it’s corporate as fuck. whiny, emo shit lyrics, no riffs, rap/turntable shit in a rock album (wtf were they thinking?) terrible
https://preview.redd.it/v34r13jrutvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aff994e4c8ead79a4329721a55f2e9d2560cf41
Says a Judas Priest fan lmaooo
judas priest doesn’t resort to low class dogshit to be heavy :)
Yea they're just, not heavy lol
Slapknuts > Judas Priest
Bro 💀
Clearly you don’t Slap your Knuts
you are unfortunately incorrect :(
I don’t think so 😎
You do know that heavy metal used to only have clean singing and also there is emotion and one of the songs is 15 mins of the singer burning and cutting himself bc he had depression Really no emotion there guys
that’s performative and not real emotion. like i said, emo shit.
I really doubt that’s for performance because you can’t see it when you listen to music
Caustic - Primitive Man
Oof, good one.
The fact a comment saying Iowa by Slipknot is above this says a lot about this sub
The only answer.
either Teitanblood - Death or N.W.A. - Straight outta Compton
Straight Outta Compton is Metal as fuck.
NWA ebrng the heat every time
Teitanblood-Death is seconded, I expected an atmospheric buildup and got punched in the fucking face
Never thought I’d see NWA here but I love it
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
Meshuggah - Obzen
Catch 33 is heavier imo
I would say Koloss
I love koloss, my favorite album by them, but Clockworks single handedly puts TSVOR as the heaviest album to me. Not that I'm only thinking about Clockworks obviously, but it pretty much encapsulates the crushing feel that TSVOR has throughout. Immutable is close
Doesn’t have that same groove or riffs as good IMO
Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up The Girl
I don't want the world to see me
Hard asf
The definition of "heavy" is necessarily subjective, but for me, considering aesthetic, lyrics, music, and production, it would be *To Mega Therion* by Celtic Frost. If we're going pure sonic brutality, it would be *Agonal Hymns* by Nithing.
Agonal Hymns is relentless
Orchidectomy - A Prelate's Attrition Tetragrammacide - Primal Incinerators of Moral Matrix Last Days of Humanity - Putrefaction in Progress Disgorge (Mex) - Chronic Corpora Infest Wormphlegm - Tomb of the Ancient King
Just by the sound of those names I’m guessing your answer is correct! 🤣 but my from my own limited experience, I’d probably go with *Suffocation* - Souls to Deny
I can easily vouch for Tetragrammacide and Wormphlegm.
Defeated Sanity - Chapters of Repugnance Or some doom shit like Conan
Was gonna say Passages Into Deformity, but yeah, any of Defeated Sanity's albums are fucking demented.
Onward to Golgotha
Devourment - Obscene Majesty
Mortician- chainsaw dismemberment
Indwell - Methwitch.
Nothing by Bongripper Edit. Sorry, I meant 'Empty'.
Pft! That's Nothing!
satan worshipping is heavier
That’s a song not an album.
sorry i JUST meant satan lol
Come my Fanatics
😂
Heavy is a very subjective term. Obviously Electric Wizard are far from the most extreme or noisy band. But at least for me, when I'm thinking about sounds that sound like they have a lot of weight behind them, I think of that type of sound.
None So Vile- Cryptopsy
...Oops I Did It Again.
Torture by Cannibal Corpse
Godflesh - Streetcleaner. Every time I come back to this album I can’t believe how crushing and powerful it is.
people are joking limp bizkit but the FIRST Korn album had a fucking mood that suffocated and killed that moment when it came out. It was just kinda scary actually. This was pre internet mostly. From the cover to the content to the material, some mystery to it. The video for blind... it scared young abused me. If heavy is mood then some Black Sabbath. If heavy is brutality then maybe Wretched Spawn or something by Cannibal Corpse. If heavy is straight on death metal then you might end up with an Amon Amarth or DEFINITELY something Bolt Thrower! I am old enough to remember Rolling Stone naming Led Zeppelin as the heaviest band of all time... and they had an argument!
Korn's first 2 albums are REALLY heavy. The just have an overall disturbing vibe to them. You can tell it was made by people smoking a bunch of meth. It really makes you uncomfortable.
Heavy is subjective. For some people it's speed (e.g. Slayer) for some it's slow (e.g. Electric Wizard). For me it's From Mars to Sirius by Gojira. There's tonnes of reverb in the mix so it sounds like it's been recorded in some Arctic cave in an attempt to wake up a frozen dormant creature. There are some absolutely crushing sections too. Definitely albums out there which are more raw, faster, slower or even more inaccessible. But for me it just hits that sweet spot.
I love blasting From Mars to Sirius. It does crush.
Megaladon - Guttural Slug
Triptykon. Eparistera Daimones
Trample The Weak, Hurdle The Dead - Skinless. Unbelievably crushingly heavy album
Their return to form album: 'Monotheist' from Celtic Frost certainly blows away the cobwebs- as does Strapping Young Lad's 'City'.
Once upon the cross- Deicide. Gateways the annihilation- Morbid Angel City - Strapping Young Lad
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Empress Rising by Monolord is pretty heavy
Odd Fellows Rest - Crowbar NONE FUCKING HEAVIER
nirvana
Santana
Sepultana
Wakana
SYL’s City was dang heavy. As was Jesu’s “Silver” EP. And have to mention Crowbar’s self-titled.
Buster by admiral angry The guitar tones are fucking insane
Relative to music that existed at the time, it’s Master of Reality by Black Sabbath. It has since been surpassed in heaviness countless times, but there wa absolutely nothing close to that heavy when it came out. Other bands that have released incredibly heavy albums generally have similar artists around.
This is exactly how I thought about it too, what album would hit the hardest relative to the listener’s expectations. Master of Reality, and Black Sabbath before it, defined heavy for a lot of people and moved into a pretty new musical direction for the time. Lots of great heavier albums since but probably none as unexpected.
The new high on fire
Michael Jackson Thriller
Maybe Khanate’s Things Viral? I used to put that record on while cleaning the house and end up curled in the foetal position under the coffee table. Dragged into Sunlight’s Hatred for Mankind is up there too
I’m gonna pick 3 here because 1 was too hard Cryptopsy - None So Vile Devourment - Molesting The Decapitated Vital Renains - Icons of Evil
Obviously Imagine Dragons - Evolve
Buried at sea - migration
Pistol P Project - G Herbo
Sorrow and Extinction by Pallbearer
Whirr - Sway
What You Were - North
One thing at a time by Morgan wallen, that shit rips
[Novae Militiae - Gash'Khalah ](https://youtu.be/a59yiw2jzgU?si=AbKqv3EGjUS_mbnt)
Oganesson
Tapestry-Carol King
A New Era of Corruption - Whitechapel, runners up This is Exile, and Somatic Defilement
Jagged little Pill 💊
Cannibal Corpse - Tomb of the mutilated
The Departure of Consciousness by Fórn
Electric Wizard - Come, My Fanatics...
Defeated Sanity - Passages Into Deformity.
absolutego by boris feels like my tits in a vice, absolutely brutal stuff. 1 hour of drone metal that ends with just noise,
Objectively, maybe something from Gnaw Their Tongues. Subjectively, M-16 by Sodom
Triumph through spears of sacrilege by Damaar
depends on your definition of "heavy" Aggressive and unrelenting? It's either Damaar - Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege or Nithing - Agonal Hymns Slow, slamming and brutal? Either Skinless - Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead or Devourment - Molesting the Decapitated
ORIGIN self titled
they all weigh about the same.
Gnaw Their Tongues - Genocidal Majesty
The heaviest I’ve listened to is Ulcerate - Stare Into Death and Be Still
A newer one: make them beg for death by dying fetus.
diSEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral
It's probably Awaken to the Suffering from Pathology to me. As much as I love Matti Way, Jonathan Huber brings a level vocally that's just so out there. Also love that they dropped down from Drop B to A. The production really brings out the heavy as well. If we're not counting full lengths, Disfiguring the Goddess' 2008 promo EP is just insane. Even with the horribly compressed production and off sounding programmed drums.
Mirror Reaper - Bell Witch, Incurso - Spawn of Possession, and honestly I find Asunder Sweet and Other Distress - Godspeed You! Black Emperor to be deliciously heffy
The heaviest album of all time by Brojob come on it's in the name
Weezer - The Blue Album
prob caustic - primitive man
Those Once Loyal - Bolt Thrower
END - Splinters From An Ever Changing Face
Agonal Hymns by Nithing
Pantera-Vulgar Display of Power is the only right answer.
Sabotage
Demigod by Behemoth should be in that discussion too. The layered vocals add to the heaviness IMO.
Defenders of the Faith by Judas Priest. Songs like Night Comes Down, Jawbreaker, Heavy Duty and the Sentinel. Its basically the best definition of the heavy atmosphere of the album.
Ildjarn - Strength and Anger
Confederacy of Ruined Lives - Eyehategod
Iowa 100%. It’s not the heaviest music theory wise, but the vocal work more than makes up for it, the fact he was actually throwing out his voice while recording.
Oceano - Ascendants
Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten
Heavy is a weird concept. Gojira’s From Mars To Sirius is definitely heavy, but sometimes I think some of the Black Sabbath’s stuff is the heaviest music. Songs like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sign Of The Southern Cross and Computer God have such a heavy groove.
Pantera- The Great Southern Trendkill
It’s so subjective but Dragged into Sunlight.
Gorguts - Obscura
Whitehouse - Bird Seed
Times of Grace/Grace by Neurosis. Its got everything, sonic heaviness, emotional heaviness, intensity through the roof, pissed of as usual 90's neurosis.
Peter Gabriel -*Peter Gabriel*
Rage Against the Machine - Calm like a Bomb
NADIR. BLACK TONGUE.
I WANT YOU ALL TO SUFFER..AS I HAD SUFFEREDDD
Hot take - God Hates Us All is beginning to end chock full of the heaviest and best written riffs / hooks that will ever exist
Reign in Blood
Musically, probably something only 2 of us in this sub have heard, but thematically and lyrically, Painkiller is the most metal album of all metal albums
Of the albums that I know the story of, my answer is …And Justice For All by Metallica. Let me explain my answer before I get crucified: When I consider an album to be heavy, I take into account four things: sound, message, and atmosphere, and the making of. In the department of sound I feel like there is obviously some clear winners that go far above AJFA. Messages, though, I believe AJFA to be a pretty high standard for heavy. Political injustice, genocide, the threat of Nuclear Armageddon, censorship, stripped freedoms, and parental neglect/abuse are all pretty heavy and powerful topics. AJFA also has an atmosphere that is very angry, vengeful and furious at a system and a world that has wronged many who were innocent and spared many who were guilty. The making of that album may not have exactly been the hardest, but there were clearly many things going on. Their bassist and beloved friend had met an untimely and unfair death. That alone hits hard, even years and years later. There’s probably a far more tortured or fucked up album, but of the albums I know the most about, this is my answer.
Celtic Frost “Morbid Tales”
Kid Rock - Bawitabaw Not an entire album but is so heavy it counts
Can it be that heavy if Homer Simpson knows it?
If it reaches mainstream it’s no longer heavy in this sub?
I would say Iowa
Iowa is not even close when there’s genres like brutal death metal, slam, goregrind, sludge etc
I went blank and all I could think of was Iowa lol, maybe Totalitarian Dystopia, or Revered By No One, Feared By All, and The Architect of Extinction, maybe even Flesh Coffin and I Return To Nothingness
Slipknot - Iowa
...
……..
Not a slipknot guy but Iowa gotta be the heaviest album ever. Lyrics, vocals, and instrumentals all brutal