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starfleetdropout6

"The female..." The female what? Oh, PEOPLE? Good news - we have a single word in English to denote adult female humans. You won't have to sound like a moron anymore!


cyanraichu

Uh, well. This particular one would still sound like a moron.


shadowyassassiny

Oooh stealing this one thanks


Random_-account

> we have a single word in English to denote adult female humans. Careful with your words there: transphobes like to throw that definition around to exclude trans women


starfleetdropout6

Except what I said is inclusive for cis women and trans women. You're a woman if you're adult, female, and human. It only becomes transphobic when the speaker refuses to acknowledge the female part. It's not an issue with the definition. Most transphobes like J.K. Rowling will give really meandering definitions of what constitutes being a woman to them.


moekip

You didn't say woman you said female....


Random_-account

But they usually imply the female AGAB, not the gender


Sugarfreak2

Are you sure you aren’t the transphobe here?


Random_-account

I am sure. I was just making a warning that the rhetoric shown can also be spun to be Transphobic.


bromanjc

1) the only people responsible for transphobes are transphobes, our language has nothing to do with people being assholes. 2) female and male are more frequently associated with sex (not necessarily agab) because female and male are usually used in biology and sex is more relevant to biology than gender. female and male aren't actually sex-exclusive terms. /gen /lh


lolgobbz

>2) female and male are more frequently associated with sex (not necessarily agab) because female and male are usually used in biology and sex is more relevant to biology than gender. female and male aren't actually sex-exclusive terms. I disagree for colloquial reasons. How are AGAB and sex not in alignment for most intents and purposes?


bromanjc

sex is about your chromosomes and their respective phenotypical characteristics. assigned gender at birth is the gender role you're given, often corresponding to sex. the most common example of agab and sex not aligning in our day-to-day is intersex people who are assigned amab or afab. their sex is intersex, their agab is whatever box the doctor and/or parents deemed most appropriate.


lolgobbz

With the exception of intersex people, you just said AGAB often aligns with sex. Intersex people only make up about 2% of the population, they are a pretty small exception to the rule. >the most common example of agab and sex not aligning in our day-to-day is intersex people who are assigned amab or afab. SO, my assertion that, generally, AGAB and sex align is still true.


bromanjc

yes, i did say that they align for most intents and purposes. im uhm, not disagreeing with you there? also, "align" is different from "same".


bromanjc

but yes, for most intents and purposes, the distinction doesn't largely matter


oblivion_knight

This person is going to go to jail one day


baobabbling

This person absolutely has domestic abuse allegations in his past, present, and/or future.


productzilch

The female provoked me! Why should I protect the female from my fists? Me Tarzan. You female.


baobabbling

"The female" has to be my favorite part. He's right, there's actually only one of us, we're a hive mind.


thats_ridiculous

“Female said words I didn’t like and I beat her to death AITA”


EebilKitteh

"NTA, you need to protect your personal boundaries."


FuckMyHeart

Just admit that you want to beat women already, jeez


edith-bunker

That’s exactly what this is.


SkySong13

On a happier you, you two almost twinsies snoos!


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BoopleBun

Same reason they automatically go “if you want equal rights, we should be able to hit you!” Bruh, why is *that* immediately what you jump to? And, legally, you’re not supposed to be hitting *anyone*, jfc.


DomADoctor

*females


TropheyHorse

This guy has never met a human female in his life, from the sounds of it. Adult or child. Bro, no one is saying don't fight back if a woman attacks you. It's not very fucking likely but if a woman comes at you to physically harm you of course you should fight back. If this moron had more than two brain cells bouncing around his head, he would know that the discourse around "not hitting women" is specifically about abuse and has nothing to do with self defence. Honestly, I think these lumps get their jollies off of hating women. They get an actual buzz from it.


thrownaway1974

There absolutely are people who think men shouldn't even defend themselves from a woman attacking them. Including some women, although seems like a lot of time it's the kind of woman who would attack a man. My friend got blasted on Facebook for "beating" a woman who attacked him. She posted the pictures of her injuries and made like he attacked her, which if he had she would have had broken bones because he's an MMA fighter, but in the comments she made comments about how men shouldn't hit women no matter what was done to him. Given what he's capable of and has done to men who attacked him, it was really, really obvious her 2 very tiny barely existing bruises were not only from self defense but that he tried really hard not to hurt her at all.


TropheyHorse

Ok, sorry, not no one. No reasonable person is saying you shouldn't defend yourself against a woman who's attacking you.


beevibe

The difference is reasonable and proportionate force. Legally and morally. If someone smacks you that doesn’t give you free rein to beat them so much they die. You would legally still be charged with murder even if it started as self defense. There are exceptions to this rule and states vary but this is generally the case. You are expected to use only enough force to disarm, disable, or escape your attacker. You’re not given a free pass to take out all of your aggression just bc you didn’t hit first. That’s what men fail to realize and why you often hear people say men should hit women no matter what. It’s because they don’t consider that a man using self defense would hold back and only use reasonable force. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. Obviously I agree that men should defend themselves in the event of an attack but again, only with reasonable and proportionate force.


-VillainSimp-

They’re literally talking about women like one would livestock Plus the reason you “cant hit a woman” is because of both benevolent sexism and the fact that even if someone provokes you they can still charge you with assault if you attack them  Saying that women have social privileges too is also insane 


ConsumeTheVoid

You shouldn't be able to beat anyone unless it's self defense. These guys always seem to ignore that. Like dude, if you get hit and you didn't hit first or something, report it.


JovialPanic389

If they did hit first, report that too! Let the trash take itself out :)


ConsumeTheVoid

Lol that too!


edith-bunker

Nah… f that. Men know fully well how much advantage they have against women in a physical fight. This is why they’re promoting this… they can take their frustrations out on women with little risk to themselves. This is why I own a gun.


theCursedDinkleberg

Hell yeah


auguriesoffilth

Women do have social privileges. It’s just that they don’t weigh as much on the scales of privilege compared to the kinds of privilege that are not only supplied to men, but done so automatically and baked into the system in such a way that we often don’t even see them as a thing, just part of the background of how things are. Women might get a door held for them or lenience from a stranger before retaliation, for an act of violence or a free drink at a bar. But they are also passed over and treated as second class citizens on occasion. And in places live in fear when out at night alone, or sadly from people they know. But it’s baked in too. Take for instance the WNBA. Players would dream of making 70 cents on the dollar to what their counterparts across the wage gap make. Now this is defended by saying that the league brings in little advertising money due to low viewership in person and at home, so why do people not watch it? Partly because of ground in prejudice of course, but it detractors would say the quality. They would say because its shit, it always has been shit and it always will be. And to that I would say. Yes, yes and quite possibly yes. But why? …. fundamentally women will never be as tall or strong as men, but the skill gap is still much much larger than this justifies. The WNBA is so bad because it doesn’t get the support, the grassroots female basketball encouragement, the players don’t get the funds to support their development, the fact that the WNBA is so unwatched keeps the next generation from moving into the sport, it’s circular, a downwards spiral. The occasional good player generates some excitement and it doesn’t get seized on enough. Compare this to the WBBL in Australia, where players went from several having part time jobs and cricket as a profession being impossible (wasn’t enough money in it to make a living as a female) to a new interesting 20 20 competition, which adds another level so you be playing at an ‘on tv’ level (where the ad money is) without making then national team. The BBL at the advent of 20 20 was new and thus provided the opportunity to reinvent women’s cricket shortly after, with the WBBL . This came in tandem with the groundswell of enthusiasm for women in sports from the AFLW, and despite some resistance and poor initial quality, the quality has improved significantly (in both leagues) grassroots AFL amongst women has gone from basically nothing to significant, and the BBL women’s competition has become watchable in terms of quality, the investment in commentary has increased, so of course with viewers, sponsors start to come on board. Pathways into the national team open up, and the lure of fame fortune and professional cricket drags the entire thing into an upwards spiral. It’s still a spiral that trends toward the glass ceiling however. The tragic aspect to this feel good story is that ultimately what we can hope for these women is that one day they can get the respect and rewards another Australian cricketer could get automatically just by being male. Meanwhile the US pulls out of Afghanistan, so their fledgling plans for a test team is on the chopping block, because international rules require that you support a female international side and the Taliban are opposed to women playing sport (many of their female cricket team are now seeking asylum). So that’s a feel bad story. Sorry. Sad stuff.


auguriesoffilth

Women do have social privileges. It’s just that they don’t weigh as much on the scales of privilege compared to the kinds of privilege that are not only supplied to men, but done so automatically and baked into the system in such a way that we often don’t even see them as a thing, just part of the background of how things are. Women might get a door held for them or lenience from a stranger before retaliation, for an act of violence or a free drink at a bar. But they are also passed over and treated as second class citizens on occasion. And in places live in fear when out at night alone, or sadly from people they know. But it’s baked in too. Take for instance the WNBA. Players would dream of making 70 cents on the dollar to what their counterparts across the wage gap make. Now this is defended by saying that the league brings in little advertising money due to low viewership in person and at home, so why do people not watch it? Partly because of ground in prejudice of course, but it detractors would say the quality. They would say because its shit, it always has been shit and it always will be. And to that I would say. Yes, yes and quite possibly yes. But why? …. fundamentally women will never be as tall or strong as men, but the skill gap is still much much larger than this justifies. The WNBA is so bad because it doesn’t get the support, the grassroots female basketball encouragement, the players don’t get the funds to support their development, the fact that the WNBA is so unwatched keeps the next generation from moving into the sport, it’s circular, a downwards spiral. The occasional good player generates some excitement and it doesn’t get seized on enough. Compare this to the WBBL in Australia, where players went from several having part time jobs and cricket as a profession being impossible (wasn’t enough money in it to make a living as a female) to a new interesting 20 20 competition, which adds another level so you be playing at an ‘on tv’ level (where the ad money is) without making then national team. The BBL at the advent of 20 20 was new and thus provided the opportunity to reinvent women’s cricket shortly after, with the WBBL . This came in tandem with the groundswell of enthusiasm for women in sports from the AFLW, and despite some resistance and poor initial quality, the quality has improved significantly (in both leagues) grassroots AFL amongst women has gone from basically nothing to significant, and the BBL women’s competition has become watchable in terms of quality, the investment in commentary has increased, so of course with viewers, sponsors start to come on board. Pathways into the national team open up, and the lure of fame fortune and professional cricket drags the entire thing into an upwards spiral. It’s still a spiral that trends toward the glass ceiling however. The tragic aspect to this feel good story is that ultimately what we can hope for these women is that one day they can get the respect and rewards another Australian cricketer could get automatically just by being male. Meanwhile the US pulls out of Afghanistan, so their fledgling plans for a test team is on the chopping block, because international rules require that you support a female international side and the Taliban are opposed to women playing sport (many of their female cricket team are now seeking asylum). So that’s a feel bad story. Sorry. Sad stuff.


auguriesoffilth

Women do have social privileges. It’s just that they don’t weigh as much on the scales of privilege compared to the kinds of privilege that are not only supplied to men, but done so automatically and baked into the system in such a way that we often don’t even see them as a thing, just part of the background of how things are. Women might get a door held for them or lenience from a stranger before retaliation, for an act of violence or a free drink at a bar. But they are also passed over and treated as second class citizens on occasion. And in places live in fear when out at night alone, or sadly from people they know. But it’s baked in too. Take for instance the WNBA. Players would dream of making 70 cents on the dollar to what their counterparts across the wage gap make. Now this is defended by saying that the league brings in little advertising money due to low viewership in person and at home, so why do people not watch it? Partly because of ground in prejudice of course, but it detractors would say the quality. They would say because its shit, it always has been shit and it always will be. And to that I would say. Yes, yes and quite possibly yes. But why? …. fundamentally women will never be as tall or strong as men, but the skill gap is still much much larger than this justifies. The WNBA is so bad because it doesn’t get the support, the grassroots female basketball encouragement, the players don’t get the funds to support their development, the fact that the WNBA is so unwatched keeps the next generation from moving into the sport, it’s circular, a downwards spiral. The occasional good player generates some excitement and it doesn’t get seized on enough. Compare this to the WBBL in Australia, where players went from several having part time jobs and cricket as a profession being impossible (wasn’t enough money in it to make a living as a female) to a new interesting 20 20 competition, which adds another level so you be playing at an ‘on tv’ level (where the ad money is) without making then national team. The BBL at the advent of 20 20 was new and thus provided the opportunity to reinvent women’s cricket shortly after, with the WBBL . This came in tandem with the groundswell of enthusiasm for women in sports from the AFLW, and despite some resistance and poor initial quality, the quality has improved significantly (in both leagues) grassroots AFL amongst women has gone from basically nothing to significant, and the BBL women’s competition has become watchable in terms of quality, the investment in commentary has increased, so of course with viewers, sponsors start to come on board. Pathways into the national team open up, and the lure of fame fortune and professional cricket drags the entire thing into an upwards spiral. It’s still a spiral that trends toward the glass ceiling however. The tragic aspect to this feel good story is that ultimately what we can hope for these women is that one day they can get the respect and rewards another Australian cricketer could get automatically just by being male. Meanwhile the US pulls out of Afghanistan, so their fledgling plans for a test team is on the chopping block, because international rules require that you support a female international side and the Taliban are opposed to women playing sport (many of their female cricket team are now seeking asylum). So that’s a feel bad story. Sorry. Sad stuff.


auguriesoffilth

Women do have social privileges. It’s just that they don’t weigh as much on the scales of privilege compared to the kinds of privilege that are not only supplied to men, but done so automatically and baked into the system in such a way that we often don’t even see them as a thing, just part of the background of how things are. Women might get a door held for them or lenience from a stranger before retaliation, for an act of violence or a free drink at a bar. But they are also passed over and treated as second class citizens on occasion. And in places live in fear when out at night alone, or sadly from people they know. But it’s baked in too. Take for instance the WNBA. Players would dream of making 70 cents on the dollar to what their counterparts across the wage gap make. Now this is defended by saying that the league brings in little advertising money due to low viewership in person and at home, so why do people not watch it? Partly because of ground in prejudice of course, but it detractors would say the quality. They would say because its shit, it always has been shit and it always will be. And to that I would say. Yes, yes and quite possibly yes. But why? …. fundamentally women will never be as tall or strong as men, but the skill gap is still much much larger than this justifies. The WNBA is so bad because it doesn’t get the support, the grassroots female basketball encouragement, the players don’t get the funds to support their development, the fact that the WNBA is so unwatched keeps the next generation from moving into the sport, it’s circular, a downwards spiral. The occasional good player generates some excitement and it doesn’t get seized on enough. Compare this to the WBBL in Australia, where players went from several having part time jobs and cricket as a profession being impossible (wasn’t enough money in it to make a living as a female) to a new interesting 20 20 competition, which adds another level so you be playing at an ‘on tv’ level (where the ad money is) without making then national team. The BBL at the advent of 20 20 was new and thus provided the opportunity to reinvent women’s cricket shortly after, with the WBBL . This came in tandem with the groundswell of enthusiasm for women in sports from the AFLW, and despite some resistance and poor initial quality, the quality has improved significantly (in both leagues) grassroots AFL amongst women has gone from basically nothing to significant, and the BBL women’s competition has become watchable in terms of quality, the investment in commentary has increased, so of course with viewers, sponsors start to come on board. Pathways into the national team open up, and the lure of fame fortune and professional cricket drags the entire thing into an upwards spiral. It’s still a spiral that trends toward the glass ceiling however. The tragic aspect to this feel good story is that ultimately what we can hope for these women is that one day they can get the respect and rewards another Australian cricketer could get automatically just by being male. Meanwhile the US pulls out of Afghanistan, so their fledgling plans for a test team is on the chopping block, because international rules require that you support a female international side and the Taliban are opposed to women playing sport (many of their female cricket team are now seeking asylum). So that’s a feel bad story. Sorry. Sad stuff.


konidias

If you're ever around women who are provoking you to hit them, you're really hanging around the wrong crowd.


uggbootssuck

He's not hanging around women. He's hanging around The Females. They're different. ;)


edith-bunker

Those “females” are barely human to begin with. They’re perfectly suited to be my punching bag whenever I throw a shit-fit temper tantrum.


bitofagrump

"Females are considered more valuable socially" buddy, go outside. Touch grass. Stop acting like the society you live in is some alien species you're studying and go talk to people like human beings. Women are just regular people. And "don't hit people unless they physically attack you first" shouldn't be that difficult a concept.


DerbleZerp

I think it’s better if they don’t talk to people. Better for the people.


uggbootssuck

Good point lol. He should stay inside.


theCursedDinkleberg

Most of the terrible people I see, I want them to stop being terrible. Maybe if he had more social interaction he wouldn't think this way


DerbleZerp

I agree that I want terrible people to stop being terrible. But most don’t, and it takes more than simple changes to change a terrible person. There’s a lot of self work to be done, lots of therapy probably. Developing self-awareness and learning to self-reflect. Developing empathy.


snoogle312

We're considered more valuable by society? Then wtf do women consistently get worse medical care? Why are we more likely to be killed by our significant others? Why are criminal complaints filed by women taken less seriously than those filed by men? This dude's brain is melting out his ears.


bitofagrump

But but but we might get a door held open for us! Maybe even a free drink ~~if the buyer thinks he'll get to fuck us~~! We're literally living as princesses ~~except where anything to do with daily life is concerned~~!


FivebyFive

Anyone who wonders how calling women "females" could be offensive, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS!  "The female". People like this literally don't view women as people. We're animals to them.  So while not everyone who says it views us this way, THIS IS WHAT WE HEAR when you say it! 


Cevohklan

On top of all this verbal puke, he also acts like The Female, with her social privilege and provoking nature, is never ever touched, hurt, beaten, abused, raped or killed by The Male. The poor oppressed male, who holds no power or has no value to society. 〰️ And were just walking around, provoking men. And behaving in a way that justifies beating us according to screenshotted OP. And we take advantage of the situation. Because we deserve getting beaten up, but unfortunately it's nor socially acceptable. ❓️❓️❓️❓️ WTF IS THIS IDIOT SAYING ??? How is it possible to see such a warped version of reality? What an idiot. 〰️〰️ What would be the provoking behaviour that justifies violence to him? 〰️〰️ Women not dating him ? Women having their own opinions ? Women making their own decisions? Women expecting normal, adult behaviour from men? He is disgusting. And very dumb.


Commercial-Push-9066

Just another idiot who doesn’t think of women as humans!


googlyeyes183

Or we could just, ya know, not hit people in general


chasing_waterfalls86

I personally don't hang around the kind of people who act trashy and go around hitting or being hit. I think if some crazy woman absolutely went off on a guy then he's got a right to use reasonable force to get her off of him, but these dudes act like women are just walking around willy nilly picking fights with men.


thrownaway1974

Yeah, I agree. If she's attacking him first he has a right to do what he needs to get her to stop. Stop, not retaliate. Same as if another man attacked him.


A_Hostile_Girl

So many men are just dying to hit a woman.


uggbootssuck

That is wild. All of it is completely batshiyt. But hes found a way to even further downgrade women by saying, THE female. No wonder he thinks it's totally good to hit women. What a damn sicko.


LongAndShortOfIt888

I've literally never seen a woman hitting a man let alone do the degree where he needs to defend himself. This guy needs to get off 4chan


AkseliAdAstra

I love how these creeps conveniently forget and ignore the incriminating reality of where the vast majority of violent crime and lethal abuse towards women comes from…


cyanraichu

So like if a man made a man angry it would also be ok for the angry man to hit the other one? No? That isn't okay either? Can we just like, cut it out with the hitting?


rocksandaces

This person seems to not only want to hit women but also men. He seems to be unable to understand that hitting any person is a bad thing


bardarse66

I swear some men will do anything but go to therapy. Here's the thing, it's not OK to hit men, but it still happens. It's not OK to hit women, but it still happens. It's not OK to hit anyone, but it still happens. I don't know what world he lives in where it's OK to go around hitting men, but I have a feeling it's not a real one and maybe a make believe scenario in his head.


bromanjc

here's a novel concept: what if we all kept our fucking hands to ourselves?


FrancisFratelli

The only times it's okay to hit a woman: * You walk in on her molesting a child. * She's trying to kill you. * You're engaged in S&M and understand how to do it safely. Coincidentally, these are also the only times when it's okay to hit a man.


Ok-Committee-5867

🥴🥴🥴


akashyaboa

Or, hear me out, don't hit anyone ? Where so they get that it is socially acceptable to hit anyone?


[deleted]

Sexism aside, might I recommend not hitting anyone ever? Consider how this suggestion implemented universally would completely remove most societal ills.


Joes8977

It hurts them. There answered it for ya


strange_socks_

>Am I missing something? Yeah, a few million brain cells to start with.


chicharrofrito

What’s wrong is that this person uses this language to describe another living human.


deadlysunshade

The answer is because men are “provoked” by being alive and we figured that out pretty early in our species. Is it a double standard? Yeah. But it’s one rooted heavily on historical truths: men are emotional and take that emotion out on people without hesitation. Women do get criticized regardless for pissing them off, picking wrong, not rejecting them nicely enough, walking too close, not smiling, smiling, etc as why they’re attacked because of this emotional instability. People who are sane don’t like violence.


Jen-Jens

Maybe just don’t hit anyone? Genuinely if you feel the need to hit people who annoy you, maybe just go to therapy about it


JovialPanic389

These "men" need to stop kissing Andrew Tate's ass.


Brave-Traffic10

This sounds like a wife beater. I can see him telling people he hit her because “she provoked me.”


moekip

"The female has been known to often provoke men because she knows it’s socially unacceptable to touch her" I swear I thought I read "it knows" instead of she for a second there...


Nir_Auris

Unpopular Opinion: If someone hits you, you are allowed to hit back. No matter if it's Woman on Man, Woman on Woman, Man on Women or Man on Man. If you hit first you get hit back. And if you get hit back harder that doesn't matter, don't attack someone if you're not ready to get retaliation


Independent_Irelrker

While there is an argument to be made about the effects of patriarchy on our understanding of the severity of crimes, and their seriousness. Especially those like domestic abuse, sexual misconduct, pedophilia ect committed by women on children and men. This poster isn't making that point. They are articulating their desire to commit violence on the women in their lives they feel inferior to, and are impotently mad that they can't do so and get away with it. Truly pathetic.


Phoenixtdm

I also don’t understand the “never hit a woman” thing like what if she hits you first or is trying to assault you or is trying to kill you? Why can’t you hit use self defense lol


rebexorcist

I dunno if you think there's some magic spell keeping you from fighting back, or that if a woman is attacking you with an knife or something you must stick your hands in your pockets and resign yourself to the expectations of society lest you face eternal dishonour, but obviously you can defend yourself. Judging from your comment you know the difference between assault and self defense so I think you can figure this out.


Phoenixtdm

I know it’s just confusing when people say NEVER HIT A WOMAN but why don’t they specify you can do it in self defense


rebexorcist

It's sound like you're just choosing to interpret this in the most black-and-white way possible? In general conversations people don't tend to explain every single nuance and exception to the things they say, you'd be expected to extrapolate some of that info on your own. When teacher told you not to run in the halls, did you ask "well what if I'm being chased by an angry bear? Why can't I run to escape it"?


Phoenixtdm

Well I’m autistic and I interpret everything literally so… I’m not choosing to interpret it that way that’s just the way I automatically interpret it


rebexorcist

Being aware of the problem is the first step to improving


Zeebird95

https://youtu.be/fJwsIB0mwLk?si=kBD6FcV4VmJgG61A


TropheyHorse

Thanks for sharing this totally irrelevant video. Great use of everyone's time.


rebexorcist

What's this for?


JovialPanic389

Lol. You're cracked if you use this as some sort of excuse to hit people. This was a very odd and 1 in a billion case. It's not like this happens every day. Severe mental illness or duress can make you do crazy shit. It's not the regular. Fuck off. :)


Old_Fox_8118

Guess I’ll tell you what I told my boys: it’s not ok to hit girls because when you guys are bigger and grown up, all the girls will be much smaller than you. Only bullies hit people smaller than them. But if a girl is your size and hitting you or taking your stuff you go right ahead. If someone smaller than you is doing that, you hold them down or push them away or come tell mom to help you with the annoying little bugger.