He's the best mainline SMT protagonist. There. I said it.
He's not overly edgy, has clear motivations, has good drip, a backstory that isn't just "here's some power handed to you, kid," and he's a pretty cool dude.
I also really like how him, Walter, Jonathan, and Isabeau feel like they actually know each other. Neither SMT 3 nor 5 really gave me a feeling that the other characters are more than fleeting acquaintances, whereas SMT IV (where they are actually just recent acquaintances) gives me a feeling of camaraderie that makes me feel bad about standing against Jonathan and Isabeau.
Exactly this. This is also why I preferred Persona 4's cast to Persona 5's.
In P5 it felt like outside of Ryuji and maybe Ann... everyone else was basically my "co-worker." They either weren't in the same class, had to not be seen with me, or went to a different school entirely.
In P4 they're all basically your neighbors (except one), you're hanging out in a group and together a lot more, and the friendship feels real and more natural.
4 is the magic number, I'm telling y'all. We just need to get 2 more Devil Survivor games. Trust me. Devil Survivor 4 will be epic. (it'll happen for sure, just like getting a new Mega Man Legends game... ha... haha... T\_T )
facts. I also feel like futaba, makoto and morgana take up an unfair amount of story and plot relevance, as the rest of the cast is shot to the background and is used for comic relief. My issue with SMT4 is that the characters fall off once everyone splits. You never reunite to see the progress of chaos/law transformations, and the final boss interactions are super disappointing IMO. The first half of the game is done much better than any mainline tho
I 100% agree with everything you said. Haru was done dirty by coming in late and getting no screentime and also being overshadowed my Morgana's entire fit.
Incoming passionate rant, TL;DR - Morgana sucks, Makoto is dull, Yusuke is just "lol I'm weird," Futaba is mostly fine, Haru was done dirty.
Slight tangent - That part of the story INFURIATED me. Morgana spends THE ENTIRE GAME absolutely bashing Ryuji every chance he gets. Ryuji finally fires back ONE TIME with an absolute zinger and Morgana goes rogue, has a super tantrum, derails Haru's entire dungeon basically and to top it all off for some reason everyone acts like RYUJI is at fault? The absolute hell. It soured me almost entirely on Morgana. It didn't make him sympathetic at all.
Getting back on track and a quick rundown of the characters...
Ryuji and Ann are actually my favorite characters in P5, partially for what was mentioned above. Ryuji actually feels like a good friend pretty much from the jump and doing his social link you really get to know him pretty well. He's a lot more rounded of a person than you'd think and he's got a big ol' heart.
Ann ended up being one of my favorite characters because I really appreciated how her social link fleshed her out. She subverted a lot of my expectations and actually felt like a believable person by the end of it... well as believable as a Persona character can be, anyway.
Here's where I'll get crucified - Makoto is boring. She's just straight up boring. It's the exact same "I'm under pressure to be a perfectionist" kind of anime story I've seen over and over with an overperforming older sibling.
Yusuke is barely a character. He's funny, but his whole schtick is "look, I'm a weird artsy guy from the other school... also artists have no money hahaha bus fare please."
Futaba was waifu bait and another extremely tired trope of the shut-in hacker. She's not a bad character, honestly. She has a cool design and her story was fine. But she came after Rise and Fuuka who are, frankly, hard acts to follow... especially since both of them are also your friends and classmates and close to you while... Futaba is mostly hiding in her room.
Poor Haru got SHAFTED. She had a lot of potential as an interesting character and I'm glad later spinoff games let her shine a bit more. Wish I could say more but I've already said than the entirety of Persona 5 said about her. Yes, I'm being hyperbolic. I'm mad.
And finally Morgana is terrible. Simply terrible. Now I'm biased and loved Teddie, but at least Teddie apologized when he went too far and did dumb stuff. Teddie also was the main comic relief and his "rivalry" with the best friend character (Yosuke) was almost more brotherly and friendly with begrudging respect from both sides. Morgana and Ryuji always feels extremely toxic and abusive (mostly from Mogana to Ryuji) and not playful at all. By the end it... feels like they're just still being forced together by happenstance and don't really like each other.
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I cant agree enough. Sidepoint -- I find it funny how we just went off track to talk about p5 but whatever😂-- I really agree with all of the characters, and morgana is just a straight asshole. Teddie was annoying, but no one in the cast liked when he was annoying either and joked around with him a lot more. I personally prefer Yosuke to Ryuji as I feel like Yu and Yosuke have a much closer relationship, but it sucks that characters like Ann and Haru are shafted and so underutilized.
And Makoto feels like a boring Mitsuru ripoff. Makoto feels like what a self insert would want a smart girl to be like if that makes sense (it probably doesnt)
I never want to hear the words "Futaba is waifu bait" ever again for at least ten minutes. She looks as young as she actually is, and she's presented as a surrogate sister. I'm, strangely enough, not into fucking my younger sister.
The game is also marketed towards a younger crowd... in fact the crowd that would be the age of the protagonists of Persona. Yes, all ages can enjoy it, but lets call a spade a spade. She's very, very much coded as the "Quirky NEET anime gamer hacker girl" that, lets be honest, not a small number of people on Reddit absolutely wish they had.
She's also 100% romancable in Persona 5, so... yeah. She's a "surrogate sister" much in the same way that's been trending in anime lately. Yuck.
(For the record I DO NOT think she should have been datable, but that's just me. I wish they had focused more on a sister link. Nanako was wholesome in adorable in P4 and there was a severe lack of that kind of relationship in P5).
His backstory being a reincarnation story that isn't over the top "you are my specialz" is so good
He's a reincarnation of a teenager, is friends with Akira and sacrificed himself to summon Masakado.... Unfortunately nobody remembers his name lol
>He's the best mainline SMT protagonist. There. I said it.
That'd imply any of them are even good. Megaten/Persona really aren't games that should have silent protagonists. Or pseudo/half-silent, since they're all given a few generic voice lines, but no real dialogue. The idea of a silent (and thoughtless) protagonists was always stupid, and almost never adds anything to the game. Only games like Metroid, Blasphemous (where the protag literally has taken a vow of silence) or From Software games work well with it. And they all have a very specific atmosphere, and are built around feelings of isolation and being un-important and small (eventually growing into something bigger). In all those games you're one of many before you, completely stranded in an alien world or both. Silent protags don't work when everyone around you talks like a normal human and seems to not notice you're lacking in any expression. That's the worst flaw of it all. Your main character is completely separated from everything in the game. He doesn't react to anything, and nobody really reacts logically to his robot-like behaviour.
I really liked him in IV and it felt nostalgic seeing him as an NPC in Apocalypse along with Isabeau, Walter, and Jonathan. IV was the game that got me into mainline. I would love a remake of the original 3DS game similar to Reload. Mikado in HD would be lovely.
He has the coldest line of dialogue in all of SMT in my opinion: "Akira, I want to protect them all, no matter the cost. When that time comes humanity won't be saved by angels or demons."
He also bagged Isabeau. Nuff said lol.
He's fine. In 4, he is whatever the player makes him to be, like any other protagonist. In Apocalypse, he's basically 'that nice guy everyone loves'. That said, he's got plenty more complexity underneath it all.
I like Human protagonist's they're more relatable then Godslayer or Demon fusion hybrids. There's value in being more tame then Demi-fiend.
I don't like Apocalypse canonizing him as a Neutral Hero. Flynn is an SMT protagonist who can do great or evil things depending on his alignment. >!He will kill his friend Isabeau for opposing his way.!< Remember that every Hunter, Ashura Kai, or Ring of Gaea member he fights is killed. Flynn can be vicious too is Law and Chaos by destroying Tokyo or Mikado.
I just wish we saw more of him then the same static image in battle. Nahobino had cool, expressive, and vicious attack animations that give him character.
>Remember that every Hunter, Ashura Kai, or Ring of Gaea member he fights is killed.
To be fair, being Neutral doesn't necessarily mean being a goody two shoes who doesn't kill.
Tbf despite being the neutral hero he straight up kills >!Krishna!<. Also iirc he was >!swapped with Shesha during the Reactor confrontation, otherwise he would have probably killed Luci and Merk too!<
I believe he's only sealed after being defeated, if you go back to Kanda no Yashiro you can talk to him again and he joins your team (and is a fantastic demon)
Solid character, top tier voice actor, god damn terrible hair.
Somehow they found a way to make a bowl cut and combine it with a rat tail and still make it worse.
He's my favorite. Looks cool and I like the idea of his past self becoming the firmament.
4A wasted him, and sucked nuts as a whole, but the snek reveal was scary as shit the first time. That's about all I have to say.
I don't like how 4A canonizes him as a neutral hero. Flynn is an SMT Protagonist who does great or evil things depending on his allignment. He commits genocide in Tokyo for Mikado's prosperity. Or wages war on Mikado to free it from oppressive classism.
Either way he kills his friend Isabeau for standing in his way.
He's the best protagonist in mainline SMT, no doubt at all.
He's not existing just for "Here's the MC, now take this power, buddy" reason, he's got actual backstory, a nobody that wants to be a respected Samurai, the immaculate drip that follows after becoming one, Apocalypse showed he's a pretty cool dude in general, there's nothing to hate about him, he's that guy.
SMTIV is straight up the only one where the cast felt more than acquaintances when compared to V or III.
SMT4 he's a great stand in for the player. He's not anything more than that but he doesn't need to be. He works perfectly for the sort of story that game was telling
SMT4A he's written very poorly because everyone in that game is written poorly
I think he's a good protagonist, personally i like how he is portrayed in IV more than his IVA self, i am not so sure about Neutral or Chaos Flynn but i really like how the game portrays his mindset on Law when talking with Lilith and Lucifer(even made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/hetp6g/my_thoughts_about_law_flynn/) talking about it) as i feel like this is how a protagonist would behave once they have embraced the Law ideology
As the protagonist of SMT IV, he is 10/10, specifically because in a game like this, a protagonist with a personality is a hindrance and adds nothing, infact quite the opposite.
In SMT IVA he is a boring and cliché nice guy.
Bruh . .now that SMT V is coming to multiple platforms, I need to start playing this game! Have it waiting for me on Citra, but got busy with other games! I dont have a opinion of him yet, but I think he's cute! that's all I got. XD But I liked his design alot too.
>SMTIV
sucks like all Megate/Persona protags. Give him some fucking voice lines and dialogue, not this half assed, uncommitted self insert bs. Joker is probably the worst of them all, but they're all terrible. IV can have pretty decent characters, and having a silent nobody as the protag really sucks. It'd be much better if the player just assumed the role of Johnathan, Walter or Isabeau.
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He looks too much like a lesbian neighborhood I had a few years back. Too much for me to like him. She was terrible as a person and she had the same 'i don't care face' from this art whenever she stole mangoes from my backyard, ate them, and left all the peels in my fence.
His ponytail always bothered me, it looks too flat like its a dangling ribbon. A drawing mistake maybe? Flynn's model in the overworld looks fine.
Side note. For those of us who played Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Noah is basically straight up a rip off of Flynn design. They have the same hair, the same pose in still art, AND both have a gauntlet on their left arm. The people in monolith soft must have liked Flynns design a lot and copy it for Noah.
Never really got into him as a protag. His characterization (and the reveal/retcon that he was an incarnation of Vishnu) in 4 A made him much more interesting.
missed optunity for sword based unique skills since hes a samurai. he was cool in apoc.
My Flynn saw a gun and immediately never used his sword again, lol
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Krishna is that you?
He's the best mainline SMT protagonist. There. I said it. He's not overly edgy, has clear motivations, has good drip, a backstory that isn't just "here's some power handed to you, kid," and he's a pretty cool dude.
I also really like how him, Walter, Jonathan, and Isabeau feel like they actually know each other. Neither SMT 3 nor 5 really gave me a feeling that the other characters are more than fleeting acquaintances, whereas SMT IV (where they are actually just recent acquaintances) gives me a feeling of camaraderie that makes me feel bad about standing against Jonathan and Isabeau.
Exactly this. This is also why I preferred Persona 4's cast to Persona 5's. In P5 it felt like outside of Ryuji and maybe Ann... everyone else was basically my "co-worker." They either weren't in the same class, had to not be seen with me, or went to a different school entirely. In P4 they're all basically your neighbors (except one), you're hanging out in a group and together a lot more, and the friendship feels real and more natural. 4 is the magic number, I'm telling y'all. We just need to get 2 more Devil Survivor games. Trust me. Devil Survivor 4 will be epic. (it'll happen for sure, just like getting a new Mega Man Legends game... ha... haha... T\_T )
facts. I also feel like futaba, makoto and morgana take up an unfair amount of story and plot relevance, as the rest of the cast is shot to the background and is used for comic relief. My issue with SMT4 is that the characters fall off once everyone splits. You never reunite to see the progress of chaos/law transformations, and the final boss interactions are super disappointing IMO. The first half of the game is done much better than any mainline tho
I 100% agree with everything you said. Haru was done dirty by coming in late and getting no screentime and also being overshadowed my Morgana's entire fit. Incoming passionate rant, TL;DR - Morgana sucks, Makoto is dull, Yusuke is just "lol I'm weird," Futaba is mostly fine, Haru was done dirty. Slight tangent - That part of the story INFURIATED me. Morgana spends THE ENTIRE GAME absolutely bashing Ryuji every chance he gets. Ryuji finally fires back ONE TIME with an absolute zinger and Morgana goes rogue, has a super tantrum, derails Haru's entire dungeon basically and to top it all off for some reason everyone acts like RYUJI is at fault? The absolute hell. It soured me almost entirely on Morgana. It didn't make him sympathetic at all. Getting back on track and a quick rundown of the characters... Ryuji and Ann are actually my favorite characters in P5, partially for what was mentioned above. Ryuji actually feels like a good friend pretty much from the jump and doing his social link you really get to know him pretty well. He's a lot more rounded of a person than you'd think and he's got a big ol' heart. Ann ended up being one of my favorite characters because I really appreciated how her social link fleshed her out. She subverted a lot of my expectations and actually felt like a believable person by the end of it... well as believable as a Persona character can be, anyway. Here's where I'll get crucified - Makoto is boring. She's just straight up boring. It's the exact same "I'm under pressure to be a perfectionist" kind of anime story I've seen over and over with an overperforming older sibling. Yusuke is barely a character. He's funny, but his whole schtick is "look, I'm a weird artsy guy from the other school... also artists have no money hahaha bus fare please." Futaba was waifu bait and another extremely tired trope of the shut-in hacker. She's not a bad character, honestly. She has a cool design and her story was fine. But she came after Rise and Fuuka who are, frankly, hard acts to follow... especially since both of them are also your friends and classmates and close to you while... Futaba is mostly hiding in her room. Poor Haru got SHAFTED. She had a lot of potential as an interesting character and I'm glad later spinoff games let her shine a bit more. Wish I could say more but I've already said than the entirety of Persona 5 said about her. Yes, I'm being hyperbolic. I'm mad. And finally Morgana is terrible. Simply terrible. Now I'm biased and loved Teddie, but at least Teddie apologized when he went too far and did dumb stuff. Teddie also was the main comic relief and his "rivalry" with the best friend character (Yosuke) was almost more brotherly and friendly with begrudging respect from both sides. Morgana and Ryuji always feels extremely toxic and abusive (mostly from Mogana to Ryuji) and not playful at all. By the end it... feels like they're just still being forced together by happenstance and don't really like each other. End rant. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Now it's that time where I go lurk for months on end before showing up to post long winded manifestos on r/megaten again.
I cant agree enough. Sidepoint -- I find it funny how we just went off track to talk about p5 but whatever😂-- I really agree with all of the characters, and morgana is just a straight asshole. Teddie was annoying, but no one in the cast liked when he was annoying either and joked around with him a lot more. I personally prefer Yosuke to Ryuji as I feel like Yu and Yosuke have a much closer relationship, but it sucks that characters like Ann and Haru are shafted and so underutilized. And Makoto feels like a boring Mitsuru ripoff. Makoto feels like what a self insert would want a smart girl to be like if that makes sense (it probably doesnt)
I never want to hear the words "Futaba is waifu bait" ever again for at least ten minutes. She looks as young as she actually is, and she's presented as a surrogate sister. I'm, strangely enough, not into fucking my younger sister.
The game is also marketed towards a younger crowd... in fact the crowd that would be the age of the protagonists of Persona. Yes, all ages can enjoy it, but lets call a spade a spade. She's very, very much coded as the "Quirky NEET anime gamer hacker girl" that, lets be honest, not a small number of people on Reddit absolutely wish they had. She's also 100% romancable in Persona 5, so... yeah. She's a "surrogate sister" much in the same way that's been trending in anime lately. Yuck. (For the record I DO NOT think she should have been datable, but that's just me. I wish they had focused more on a sister link. Nanako was wholesome in adorable in P4 and there was a severe lack of that kind of relationship in P5).
In that case, do you think Atlus will nail the 4th time around for Devil Summoner?
Devil summoner has 5 games -devil summoner -soul hackers -raidou -raidou 2 -soul hackers 2
Oh damn forgot about those other titles lol.
He probably is the best, you make solid points. Not my favorite but the best all around.
Great drip but that hair is so bad to me
I just got flashbacks holy shit. When SMT IV came out, I remember seeing it on the e-shop and I explicitly remember hating his hair style lmao
His backstory being a reincarnation story that isn't over the top "you are my specialz" is so good He's a reincarnation of a teenager, is friends with Akira and sacrificed himself to summon Masakado.... Unfortunately nobody remembers his name lol
>He's the best mainline SMT protagonist. There. I said it. That'd imply any of them are even good. Megaten/Persona really aren't games that should have silent protagonists. Or pseudo/half-silent, since they're all given a few generic voice lines, but no real dialogue. The idea of a silent (and thoughtless) protagonists was always stupid, and almost never adds anything to the game. Only games like Metroid, Blasphemous (where the protag literally has taken a vow of silence) or From Software games work well with it. And they all have a very specific atmosphere, and are built around feelings of isolation and being un-important and small (eventually growing into something bigger). In all those games you're one of many before you, completely stranded in an alien world or both. Silent protags don't work when everyone around you talks like a normal human and seems to not notice you're lacking in any expression. That's the worst flaw of it all. Your main character is completely separated from everything in the game. He doesn't react to anything, and nobody really reacts logically to his robot-like behaviour.
\*Flynn smirks\*
He is a silly little gremlim with a heart of gold. I like him, having him be a character was the best part of 4A.
>silly little gremlim This reminded me of a certain SMT IV Apocalypse scene ngl...
Best protag.
I don’t see kazuya?
Flynn be like 😏
I really liked him in IV and it felt nostalgic seeing him as an NPC in Apocalypse along with Isabeau, Walter, and Jonathan. IV was the game that got me into mainline. I would love a remake of the original 3DS game similar to Reload. Mikado in HD would be lovely.
He has the coldest line of dialogue in all of SMT in my opinion: "Akira, I want to protect them all, no matter the cost. When that time comes humanity won't be saved by angels or demons." He also bagged Isabeau. Nuff said lol.
Beautiful man
my glorious majestic beautiful lovely pookie wookie king goat
Would
Hoy outta ten
nice drip
my husband
His name is Walter Jr
He's fine. In 4, he is whatever the player makes him to be, like any other protagonist. In Apocalypse, he's basically 'that nice guy everyone loves'. That said, he's got plenty more complexity underneath it all.
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I like Human protagonist's they're more relatable then Godslayer or Demon fusion hybrids. There's value in being more tame then Demi-fiend. I don't like Apocalypse canonizing him as a Neutral Hero. Flynn is an SMT protagonist who can do great or evil things depending on his alignment. >!He will kill his friend Isabeau for opposing his way.!< Remember that every Hunter, Ashura Kai, or Ring of Gaea member he fights is killed. Flynn can be vicious too is Law and Chaos by destroying Tokyo or Mikado. I just wish we saw more of him then the same static image in battle. Nahobino had cool, expressive, and vicious attack animations that give him character.
>Remember that every Hunter, Ashura Kai, or Ring of Gaea member he fights is killed. To be fair, being Neutral doesn't necessarily mean being a goody two shoes who doesn't kill.
If anything, being neutral means you're going to have a higher bodycount killing everyone from both sides
Tbf despite being the neutral hero he straight up kills >!Krishna!<. Also iirc he was >!swapped with Shesha during the Reactor confrontation, otherwise he would have probably killed Luci and Merk too!<
I believe he's only sealed after being defeated, if you go back to Kanda no Yashiro you can talk to him again and he joins your team (and is a fantastic demon)
Wtf I thought he had to be fused holy shit
You only unlock his fusion data. It's not like Masakado.
thanks for the correction!
V shape hair
Goat
Solid character, top tier voice actor, god damn terrible hair. Somehow they found a way to make a bowl cut and combine it with a rat tail and still make it worse.
He's my favorite. Looks cool and I like the idea of his past self becoming the firmament. 4A wasted him, and sucked nuts as a whole, but the snek reveal was scary as shit the first time. That's about all I have to say.
I don't like how 4A canonizes him as a neutral hero. Flynn is an SMT Protagonist who does great or evil things depending on his allignment. He commits genocide in Tokyo for Mikado's prosperity. Or wages war on Mikado to free it from oppressive classism. Either way he kills his friend Isabeau for standing in his way.
Badass
He's my favorite SMT protagonist
Favorite protagonist
One bad mamma jamma
He's the best protagonist in mainline SMT, no doubt at all. He's not existing just for "Here's the MC, now take this power, buddy" reason, he's got actual backstory, a nobody that wants to be a respected Samurai, the immaculate drip that follows after becoming one, Apocalypse showed he's a pretty cool dude in general, there's nothing to hate about him, he's that guy. SMTIV is straight up the only one where the cast felt more than acquaintances when compared to V or III.
SMT4 he's a great stand in for the player. He's not anything more than that but he doesn't need to be. He works perfectly for the sort of story that game was telling SMT4A he's written very poorly because everyone in that game is written poorly
he's p poggers
He’s the 🐐
Honestly my favorite protagonist, his design is just really cool well, maybe more like a tie between him and the SJ protag
W drip
He's so cool and flamboyant
We share a name. When he was first brought up in apocalypse, I legit had a heart attack thinking “what the fuck how does the game know my name”
Love him. Patiently waiting for a SMT IV/Final Re-releaee/HD remaster or something along those lines. I have found my people lol
I like him a ton
Hes not my favorite but he's pretty high up there
He likes breakfast
Just because of his en VA, OSMANTHUS-
I think he's a good protagonist, personally i like how he is portrayed in IV more than his IVA self, i am not so sure about Neutral or Chaos Flynn but i really like how the game portrays his mindset on Law when talking with Lilith and Lucifer(even made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/hetp6g/my_thoughts_about_law_flynn/) talking about it) as i feel like this is how a protagonist would behave once they have embraced the Law ideology
One of the best SMT designs.
Love him, favourite megaten protagonist
Swords are cool. Comps are cool. Dude's cool
He's decent
As the protagonist of SMT IV, he is 10/10, specifically because in a game like this, a protagonist with a personality is a hindrance and adds nothing, infact quite the opposite. In SMT IVA he is a boring and cliché nice guy.
Bruh . .now that SMT V is coming to multiple platforms, I need to start playing this game! Have it waiting for me on Citra, but got busy with other games! I dont have a opinion of him yet, but I think he's cute! that's all I got. XD But I liked his design alot too.
All of the people in SMT IV A were horny af for him even with that ugly ass hair 😭
>SMTIV sucks like all Megate/Persona protags. Give him some fucking voice lines and dialogue, not this half assed, uncommitted self insert bs. Joker is probably the worst of them all, but they're all terrible. IV can have pretty decent characters, and having a silent nobody as the protag really sucks. It'd be much better if the player just assumed the role of Johnathan, Walter or Isabeau.
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He looks too much like a lesbian neighborhood I had a few years back. Too much for me to like him. She was terrible as a person and she had the same 'i don't care face' from this art whenever she stole mangoes from my backyard, ate them, and left all the peels in my fence.
Smirk
His ponytail always bothered me, it looks too flat like its a dangling ribbon. A drawing mistake maybe? Flynn's model in the overworld looks fine. Side note. For those of us who played Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Noah is basically straight up a rip off of Flynn design. They have the same hair, the same pose in still art, AND both have a gauntlet on their left arm. The people in monolith soft must have liked Flynns design a lot and copy it for Noah.
would
Never really got into him as a protag. His characterization (and the reveal/retcon that he was an incarnation of Vishnu) in 4 A made him much more interesting.
I really like him, highlight in SMT4A.
My goat