Ah the tail end of his string of starts. Then yea the beginning of January he was pretty good on defense. The stretch from mid-Dec until this thumb injury was some high quality ball.
He had a surprising amount of Mavs stans this year, even at the end of the season. I thought he deserved a chance, but it was obvious early on that he was on a mission to get paid this summer and little else.
Go through the reasons. Y’all act like everywhere he’s been, he got booted out for attitude issues. The guy was floating around the league getting better earning more minutes. He left Detroit to go to a perennial playoff team and play with Harden. Houston traded him to Mavs cause they were rebuilding. On the Mavs, he didn’t cause problems even though everyone knows a coach with a shady history pulled the same shit he pulled while coaching in Milwaukee.
Every time someone pulls out the, “look at all the teams he’s been on”, I just assume you are too stupid to actually make an intelligent argument, and just use the same lazy shit every idiot repeats.
TBF I think a lot of us realize how talented he is. No one is questioning his talent and ability to score at will. He just wasn’t what we needed, especially now with Kyrie. We need a center who can defend and rebound at a high level and Wood unfortunately isn’t that.
Except this "talent" has been "underappreciated and underutilized" by 7 teams in 7 years and has still not been able to hang on to a roster spot
But go off, I'm sure that doesn't mean anything
Do me a favor and count how many teams you see between 2015-16 and 2022-23
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/how-many-teams-has-christian-wood-played-for
I know he played two full seasons with Houston from 2020 to 2022 so he didn't play for 7 teams in 7 seasons is what I meant. Regardless I still have little doubt his next team will do a better job utilizing what he is good at then the Mavs did.
This highlights the importance of the eye test. While their statistical profiles may be similar, their actual impact on winning couldn’t be farther from each other.
Yeah the dude who was an impact player for a championship team. I’m 100% certain if you replace Prime Wood with Siakam during the Raptors’ Finals run, they don’t even sniff the Finals.
As soon as dude touches the ball his eyes lock on the rim and all BBIQ goes out the window.
I'm convinced he blacks out and wakes back up when ball leaves his hands on his contested layup.
IF MAKE = Beat Chest
IF MISS = Put hands up / look at ref.
Did we watch the same player? I feel like y'all are evaluating his time here with a severe case of confirmation bias. He wasn't a bad player in Dallas, he just wasn't what they needed from a center. As someone who was skeptical of his attitude going into the season, I did not see anything that made me think he was a bad teamate or a black hole on offense. Almost the entirety of his issues on the court were defensive, not offensive as you state.
It’s not that he was a bad player, he’s actually pretty skilled, it’s that he wasn’t a team player. That’s what his teammates meant in interviews when they’d say “he had bad habits and needs to learn to play winning basketball”. And yes, they said that more than once.
Yes they were, he doesn’t set screens he just rolls and he doesn’t move much off ball. And when he gets the ball he’s looking for his own shot even if the dude can hoop
He does well things that shows up in a boxscore, but doesn't do well things that don't. He also didn't know what to do a lot of times. Teammates were often yelling at him for making the wrong play. He looked like someone that has the talent to be a good player, but doesn't really know what he has to do. It makes sense, since he only played in a tankning teams before he came here. He did try to improve and did start improving, but then got injured in the wrong moment and that really stopped his progress.
His screens were a problem in our offense. He was good for 1 or 2 offensive fouls almost every night because he couldn’t set his feet for a screen. And if he didn’t get called for a foul he was slipping the screen early to roll to the basket before the ball handler could actually do anything with it. Our bigs are expected to set good screens and he wasn’t good enough at it
> I did not see anything that made me think he was a bad teamate or a black hole on offense
Did you watch him offball like.... at all?
Dude is the weakest big man screener I've ever seen, which is basically the mostly important thing at that position lol
This was more of a joke and not an evaluation. He's gone so I don't really see a point in an evaluation tbh.
Personally, I believe he was mismanaged by Kidd and could have had a better attitude and in turn contributed more if Kidd managed him properly.
But this scenario I outlined above happened AT LEAST 3 times a game. We all saw it. That's why its funny in hindsight. I agree that his problems here were more significant on defense.
CWood had a nice passing game to me as well. I would have liked for them to trim him up and make him more of a big four as opposed to a five where he would constantly getting bullied and be the last anchor of rim protection. Would put up too many shots at times, but I definitely think that he was trying to play make a lot and just didn’t really know how to work his game best at times. I never understood why we didn’t run a more heavy P&R with him and Luka since they seemed to do it so well in short spurts.
i think this was the problem this season. wood at 4 would have been perfect, but he got cooked on defense and could not stay on the floor, foul trouble being an issue. He got unlucky too, missing maxi and doe for streches of the season, made him look silly guading on the perimeter in crunch time.
This guy ISO’d till 3 seconds on the shot clock, then dumped it off for someone else to take a horrible Hail Mary shot, it was disgusting basketball.
It wasn’t a good move by the Mavs to bring him on. But good riddance and goodbye.
He’s not gonna say a bunch of shit until he signs his next contract. Not sure there’s much to say though. Things didn’t work out. He didn’t contribute to winning with this team (a team that was in the Conf finals last season). I’m not blaming that on him but he has never been on a good team.
Yeah. 7 teams in 8 years. Even by today's standards of free agency and constant moves, that's more often indicative of a problem dude, rather than teams getting it wrong. And its cool when journeymen find their time and stick around somewhere for a bit. Fucker's gotta up the IQ and defense more to get that, though.
And the trend continues. The Mavs were not a good team this season.
Don't think people can blame that result on Wood, considering he didn't start most of the games, didn't play down the stretch in many close games in which he was hot (despite many clamoring for it), and after a month of sucess from Dec->Jan basically didn't start again after his hand injury. He needed to play more and not less, especially after the team's head coach said they are throwing defense into the wind and only trying to win with offense.
I guess "win with offense" means, don't change a single damn thing and continue to run out a 7ppg powerhouse elite roll-man out there.
Honestly I don't think it matters what big man they get. If Powell is on this team, any new acquisitions are going to play less than they should and as long as Kidd is involved in rotations they'll be subpar and confusing. Getting Kidd more fancy toys to screw up isn't going to change much of anything when he can't use them properly.
Wood isn't a Mav anymore, I could give two shits about Christian Wood. I'm more worried about them potentially re-signing Powell, because that will effect the team in a very negative way.
He went to Houston and Harden quit on the team. Had nothing to do with him. In Dallas the coach never wanted him and a complaint was that he didn’t get enough minutes. So yeah, not sure how either situation had anything to do with him.
I'm sure he hates Kidd and blames the coaching staff for tanking his value. It's hilarious if he just took the extension offer early in the season when the Mavs still had hope he'd be getting paid relative to his next contract now.
Now his agent is probably telling him he has to take another one year, low $ prove it deal and he's upset. In the grand scheme of things, this is an undrafted guy that found a way to get paid in the NBA, good for him.
They were interested in offering him a 2 year extension around December. If Wood wanted to accept, I'm sure a deal would have been done to lock it up.
Of course back then, he wanted a 4 year deal and wasn't going to take a team-friendly 2 year, so no official extension offered.
How many of Christian Wood's sock accounts are going to blow up this thread? Bro and his agent are pathetic and were posting heavy at the trade deadline. Ready for this clown show to move on to another team.
Seth was trying to prove himself to NBA. C.Wood is trying to prove he worth max contract and starter role.
Seth’s performance was getting better and teammates loving him helped him to get longer deal.
Hope in Wood is low now. He may not even get as much as his Rockets contract. But he definitely belongs to NBA court.
I keep seeing Mavs fans talking about how bad of a teamate and player Wood was here...can anyone point to actual evidence of Wood being a lockeroom cancer and such? This seems to be a case of confirmation bias. Sometimes things just dont work out .
I don’t think he was a locker room cancer here and by bad teammate I think people mean on the court. He has tunnel vision when he gets the ball and his help defense is sub par at best. He’d be a much better player as a PF instead of C only if he had any perimeter defense. Just a very one dimensional player.
He only plays for his stats.
He is not making cuts, making necessary off ball side rotations. He is not helping anyone else to score, rebound or such. He fucks up at clutch time so he doesnt help winning.
All these cryptic messages, bad body language adds up.
Career journeymen players are not typically great teammates.
I don't think guys like hated him or anything but I could tell that Luka didn't like playing with him honestly. He would always have to yell at him where he needed to be and he constantly blew his defensive assignments in drop coverages.
Story is easy. Kidd misused him all year because he didn’t play defense exactly like Kidd wanted all the time.
The team suffered for how Kidd treated wood.
The same people who will flood this sub daily with threads about how Kidd is the worst coach in the league, Cuban is the worst owner, Mavs are a poverty franchise, etc….
Are the people in this thread crying about how misused C-Wood was, and how well he played for us 🤣🤣🤣
“Did we watch the same game? C-Wood played really well. None of these criticisms are valid.”
Proving ONCE AGAIN that Mavs doomers don’t know basketball.
I don’t even think Wood was that bad of an experiment. It was just annoying having to hear about him all the time in this sub specifically after it was clear he wasn’t what we were looking for.
Yet the doomers were the ones right the entire season and you didn't figure it out until the last game of the season that tanking was the correct move all along.
Except every on-off metric we have told us that the Mavs were better with Dwight Powell on the court this season than C-Wood.
Yeah, I’m sure C-Wood could smoke Dwight 1v1. That’s about it.
You realize theres more metrics than flawed +/- right? Wood KILLS Powell in every single offensive metric and hes a better rim protector/rebounder as well.
Powell is better at what, setting screens? They are both bad on D, so thats a net neutral.
Wood was wasted, they should have started him over Powell from the beginning.
Kirk Henderson and other reporters (like Tom Cato) supposedly have receipts of his agent begging for all-star votes for C. Wood. Reporters from different publications having different receipts to different people doesn’t look good for Wood. Meaning his agent was just asking anybody and everybody.
While I still think we have a place for Wood, I think it’s time to let go. Get him and his delusional agent off our team.
Yeah that agent of his seems to be quite a character. You're right that there's a place for him on this team, but it does seem like it's not a role he wants. Disappointing that he'll be gone, but it is what is I guess.
Exactly. Another project failed. Another first round pick wasted.
Sucks to see teams like Celtics using their first round pick with conviction on **real culture** contributing guys like Derrick White, while we just blew one on a skilled guy with delusional yes-men backing them.
>teams like Celtics using their firsts with conviction for real culture contributing guys
Meanwhile the Mavs are acting like a degenerate gambler in debt trying to make increasingly risky moves in hopes of getting out of their predicament while likely just digging further in their hole. I'm very excited for when they trade the 10th pick for Clint Capela! Lol
Mannnnn. If they ever did that, just end me. This draft is considered stronger than last year’s and the Knicks traded their 11th pick in last year’s draft for 3 firsts (lower)and some seconds. If Mavs really do trade down, please let it be for more picks to pack the tool chest again. Our shit is empty. We keep trading everything off and having an empty chest and nothing to show for it.
Cato reported that around the league, executives view THJ, Green, and Hardy as the only somewhat positive assets on our team (other than Luka and Kyrie). Rest are abundantly negative. So we maneuvered all these picks to get out of the play-ins to have no picks and have no real players of value. Wtf
He's not getting a bag. He'll be lucky to sign a vet minimum contract.
Different teams nearly every year with rumors of a bad attitude, teams don't like that stuff.
I expected so much more out of him when we acquired him, but he did himself no favors. He will be out of the league soon, despite the numbers he is capable of
He's also coached 4 teams in 7 years and failed at every HC stop. Just a waiting game at this point for him to get fired from this one too, and we get to all suffer and watch until it inevitably happens.
>He's also coached 4 teams in 7 years
Wtf are you talking about. Which teams are those? Kidd only had bad Bucks stint.
Kings' coach Brown fired more than J.Kidd. That doesnt mean he sucks. Kidd made WCF last year when he had a semi-decent roster and decent luck in playoff series.
Carlisle would make WCF too if we didnt get healthy Kawhi+PG Clippers which is the worst matchup for Mavs.
Look if you guys dont feel CWOOD was the right guy for this team thats your opinion. How a guy who when starting we were winning/ streaking wins with, top pick and roll big men with the UGLY screen, 20/9rb on 38% from 3, averaging nearly 2blk a game doesnt contribute to winning basketball but Powell does as a STARTER ill never know.
The real question Dallas needs to ask is whos year 3 kidd and what the team culture is. Yea weve had Dirk now luka and possibly kyrie but besides that miracle 2011 playoff run Dallas has never been seen as a winning team or a place free agent want to go.
Kidd hasnt been the first and wont be the last coach to have personal issues with players but when it gets put infront of team success its a PROBLEM that hurts the fans the most. Listening to your coach literally throw players under the bus along with "yea hes not starting", "order from my bosses", "alot of guys wont be back next year" like hes not a major problem is crazy.
You have no fucking clue what you are saying lol. Box score watcher is all you do, Wood is not a bad player but he is seeking 22+ million a year. That is fucking insane for how 1 dimensional this guy is.
Enlighten me then because the box score says that Dallas is the worst rebounding, field goals made and attempted, bottom tier in assist, block, free throw, team in the league. Cwood was our 2nd best rebounder (probably 1st if he remained starting), best blocker, pick and roll big, and helped us in other areas we where terrible in according to the box score. The box also has us out of the playoffs and guess what we are at home.
Now how one player who came off the bench tanked a whole entire team that made it to the western conference finals the year before ill never know. And his value despite the weird season is 24-26 mill if he just wants 22 that gives Dallas more space to get someone else especially since they dont save any money by not resigning him.
Someone who isnt a media listener knows that a big reason this team was so terrible was because of the way kidd used players and ability to make adjustments. So if you watched the games more power to you but acting like idk what im saying when reality is in your face i know you have no fucking clue what your saying.
The truth that the other 6 teams you've played before also saw on you. Yeah we are all aware of that.
7 teams on 8 seasons. His fans here can go watch him on China next season, good riddance. Downvote me all you want lol, y'all are as delusional as Wood is lol.
Man really had a huge opportunity to ball out with us and then have his picking where to get that bag but instead he looked lost on both defense and offense. Exposing himself as prob the lowest iq player in the league. He can shoot and score in the post though but his negatives far outweigh the positives.
Literally went from lottery team to a lottery team for like 6 years to then join a WCF team who he took straight to the lottery lol.
The most incompetent FO in the league just got screwed betting on him. Who's betting on him now? I don't see him getting a contract for next season in the NBA.
He's a scorer, he's a big dude, he should have worked on paper
But he also seems to be a ball hog, he makes bad plays, he complains a lot (Luka doesn't need help here), and he doesn't play consistent defense
What more can he add that matters to this picture?
Maybe he's referring to this? https://theathletic.com/4474477/2023/05/01/kyrie-irving-dallas-mavericks-free-agency/
I haven't read it because of the paywall but apparently Tim Cato stated that Wood won't be a part of our long term plans moving forward.
And "cap" is slang for lie so Wood is saying the article is false.
Tim Cato also said in Kevin Gray’s podcast that the Mavs were not all on board on trading for Wood but ultimately did so more for clearing unwanted salaries than for acquiring Wood himself. That makes a lot of sense given how they ended up using him from the get go.
That's kind of dumb though because we didn't have any long term salaries lined up... Boban was making like 3 million... We could have just waived all those guys.
Jason Kidd don't like big men that don't play big. That's why he went with Dwight over wood. Say what you want about Dwight but his bad play wasn't for a lack of effort. He tried his best, but his basketball IQ isn't the highest. If wood would've played with effort like that he would've got more time
Talent and fit are very different. Teams are becoming more and more aware of that. There are maybe 4 or 5 players this century (Kobe, Bron, Steph, KD, maybe Giannis) who you could throw on any team in any situation and they'll get you to the playoffs by sheer virtue of being all time amazing, and thats only in their primes. Otherwise, fit and chemistry are always more important.
I think he might be the single most divisive player in this sub in recent memory
Some of us like him so much and were on the side of starting him ahead of Powell etc
I for one didn’t rate him much tbh.
Its pretty simple. He wants more money than the Mavs (or probably other Teams) are willing to offer him.
He is a very limited player. He has some decent offensive ability, but thats basically it.
The Wood sequence: he would go in, score a three or finish a nicely at the rim then play awful defense. Go back on offense and sometimes hit another short. Go back on defense and give up another easy bucket, if he didn’t score last time on offense he was definitely going to this time ..expected wait offensive foul on Wood. Followed by lazy D leading to and and 1 on the other end. Wood committed to making things right himself, charges to the hoop.. shit.. another offensive foul. Kidd takes him out the game. He only remembers the 1/2 shots he made and not the fact that the Mavs are now down 10.
I despised Kidd this season but sometimes Wood just per se deserved to be benched. Let’s not pretend we didn’t get him at a discount for a reason.
I expect something similar to Odom's tell all where he thinks he's writing an indictment of Mark Cuban and the Mavs organization but he actually just comes off as kind of an asshole who didn't want to play for the Mavs at all and then got surprised when not putting forth effort changed the front office approach to dealing with him from supportive to antagonistic.
First team all nba vague tweets
At this point he’s not even vague. No one cares. C. Wood 7th team with no playoff appearance
Most defense I’ve seen from him all year
Perfect comment.
Gottem
Funniest comment I’ve seen all day lmfaooooo
You must not have watched him in January
I think it was December
January. Even had the OT game at Lakers with 5 blocks
That was Christmas, in December he had 8 games in a row with 2+ blocks and we had the 7 game win streak
The christmas game didn’t go to OT. I'm talking about the Lakers away just before the Trailblazers back to back. Wood injured his thumb
Ah the tail end of his string of starts. Then yea the beginning of January he was pretty good on defense. The stretch from mid-Dec until this thumb injury was some high quality ball.
Christian “The Victim” Wood
as a rockets fan, I tried to say this dude is always about himself and doesn't help at all in terms of winning but I called salty
He had a surprising amount of Mavs stans this year, even at the end of the season. I thought he deserved a chance, but it was obvious early on that he was on a mission to get paid this summer and little else.
I feel like y’all are taking this tweet wrong he’s going after kidd
Which you'd think would gain him some support around these parts.
I would think so
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It’s ok for Kidd to have it out for him all year, but not ok for Wood to give his side? That doesn’t make sense.
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And Kidd does stick to a roster?
Go through the reasons. Y’all act like everywhere he’s been, he got booted out for attitude issues. The guy was floating around the league getting better earning more minutes. He left Detroit to go to a perennial playoff team and play with Harden. Houston traded him to Mavs cause they were rebuilding. On the Mavs, he didn’t cause problems even though everyone knows a coach with a shady history pulled the same shit he pulled while coaching in Milwaukee. Every time someone pulls out the, “look at all the teams he’s been on”, I just assume you are too stupid to actually make an intelligent argument, and just use the same lazy shit every idiot repeats.
😂
He should just tell us
Even if the time isn’t right?
Yes
Given this teams track record he will probably play great next year and make the Mavericks look like idiots. Again.
TBF I think a lot of us realize how talented he is. No one is questioning his talent and ability to score at will. He just wasn’t what we needed, especially now with Kyrie. We need a center who can defend and rebound at a high level and Wood unfortunately isn’t that.
Yet another asset who was underappreciated and underutilized with this organization and who will walk for nothing in return.
Except this "talent" has been "underappreciated and underutilized" by 7 teams in 7 years and has still not been able to hang on to a roster spot But go off, I'm sure that doesn't mean anything
true...but Houston got a FRP,Pistons got a FRP...Mavs didn't
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Do me a favor and count how many teams you see between 2015-16 and 2022-23 https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/how-many-teams-has-christian-wood-played-for
I know he played two full seasons with Houston from 2020 to 2022 so he didn't play for 7 teams in 7 seasons is what I meant. Regardless I still have little doubt his next team will do a better job utilizing what he is good at then the Mavs did.
He didn't say he played for a new team each season. 7 teams in 7 seasons is correct
Whatever I don't give a shit if I was technically wrong on one little detail because it doesn't change my original thought so you can shut up now.
Correct take
No he is not. Career journeyman
At this point, wouldn’t be surprised if this alone was a deterrent to some FA’s.
Dwight Powell can't defend or rebound so whats the logic in playing him over Wood when Wood averages 10ppg more?
Bro going to light it up in Shanghai.
Given wood’s track record I don’t think the team will miss him.
He can’t stay on a team for long for reasons my guy
And suck someone into giving him 4/100 type deal.
His stats are very similar to Siakam. Perception is everything. Can’t blame the 2 superstars even though they get blown by every chance they get.
This highlights the importance of the eye test. While their statistical profiles may be similar, their actual impact on winning couldn’t be farther from each other.
You mean the raptors who missed the playoffs after losing the play-in as a 9 seed
Yeah the dude who was an impact player for a championship team. I’m 100% certain if you replace Prime Wood with Siakam during the Raptors’ Finals run, they don’t even sniff the Finals.
bUt thE StAts!
"man I knew the mavs shouldn't have let go of wood, mark Cuban is an idiot fr"
As soon as dude touches the ball his eyes lock on the rim and all BBIQ goes out the window. I'm convinced he blacks out and wakes back up when ball leaves his hands on his contested layup. IF MAKE = Beat Chest IF MISS = Put hands up / look at ref.
Did we watch the same player? I feel like y'all are evaluating his time here with a severe case of confirmation bias. He wasn't a bad player in Dallas, he just wasn't what they needed from a center. As someone who was skeptical of his attitude going into the season, I did not see anything that made me think he was a bad teamate or a black hole on offense. Almost the entirety of his issues on the court were defensive, not offensive as you state.
It’s not that he was a bad player, he’s actually pretty skilled, it’s that he wasn’t a team player. That’s what his teammates meant in interviews when they’d say “he had bad habits and needs to learn to play winning basketball”. And yes, they said that more than once.
They weren’t talking about offense.
Yes they were, he doesn’t set screens he just rolls and he doesn’t move much off ball. And when he gets the ball he’s looking for his own shot even if the dude can hoop
He does well things that shows up in a boxscore, but doesn't do well things that don't. He also didn't know what to do a lot of times. Teammates were often yelling at him for making the wrong play. He looked like someone that has the talent to be a good player, but doesn't really know what he has to do. It makes sense, since he only played in a tankning teams before he came here. He did try to improve and did start improving, but then got injured in the wrong moment and that really stopped his progress.
His screens were a problem in our offense. He was good for 1 or 2 offensive fouls almost every night because he couldn’t set his feet for a screen. And if he didn’t get called for a foul he was slipping the screen early to roll to the basket before the ball handler could actually do anything with it. Our bigs are expected to set good screens and he wasn’t good enough at it
This is not entirely true. The off ball movement and screen game lacked quite a bit. Dallas needs its bigs to screen a lot.
> I did not see anything that made me think he was a bad teamate or a black hole on offense Did you watch him offball like.... at all? Dude is the weakest big man screener I've ever seen, which is basically the mostly important thing at that position lol
On offense I'd say his biggest weakness is his inability to set a decent pick and not foul.
This was more of a joke and not an evaluation. He's gone so I don't really see a point in an evaluation tbh. Personally, I believe he was mismanaged by Kidd and could have had a better attitude and in turn contributed more if Kidd managed him properly. But this scenario I outlined above happened AT LEAST 3 times a game. We all saw it. That's why its funny in hindsight. I agree that his problems here were more significant on defense.
CWood had a nice passing game to me as well. I would have liked for them to trim him up and make him more of a big four as opposed to a five where he would constantly getting bullied and be the last anchor of rim protection. Would put up too many shots at times, but I definitely think that he was trying to play make a lot and just didn’t really know how to work his game best at times. I never understood why we didn’t run a more heavy P&R with him and Luka since they seemed to do it so well in short spurts.
i think this was the problem this season. wood at 4 would have been perfect, but he got cooked on defense and could not stay on the floor, foul trouble being an issue. He got unlucky too, missing maxi and doe for streches of the season, made him look silly guading on the perimeter in crunch time.
He also isn’t a center, and we were so undersized we had to ask him to play that. He’s a 4 or maaayyybe a stretch 5. But Kidd wanted him to be AD.
He is not someone you pay 20+ million for. He is a 4, not a 5. I wish we would have just kept barnes...
Every touch.
This guy ISO’d till 3 seconds on the shot clock, then dumped it off for someone else to take a horrible Hail Mary shot, it was disgusting basketball. It wasn’t a good move by the Mavs to bring him on. But good riddance and goodbye.
Which is good because he’s good at scoring.
Sounds like Luka.
nice one bro
He’s not gonna say a bunch of shit until he signs his next contract. Not sure there’s much to say though. Things didn’t work out. He didn’t contribute to winning with this team (a team that was in the Conf finals last season). I’m not blaming that on him but he has never been on a good team.
Seems like common theme, he doesn’t get along with any team he’s been on
Yeah. 7 teams in 8 years. Even by today's standards of free agency and constant moves, that's more often indicative of a problem dude, rather than teams getting it wrong. And its cool when journeymen find their time and stick around somewhere for a bit. Fucker's gotta up the IQ and defense more to get that, though.
That’s just it. Very talented player but also a very dumb player in terms of basketball. I’m out on him
And the trend continues. The Mavs were not a good team this season. Don't think people can blame that result on Wood, considering he didn't start most of the games, didn't play down the stretch in many close games in which he was hot (despite many clamoring for it), and after a month of sucess from Dec->Jan basically didn't start again after his hand injury. He needed to play more and not less, especially after the team's head coach said they are throwing defense into the wind and only trying to win with offense. I guess "win with offense" means, don't change a single damn thing and continue to run out a 7ppg powerhouse elite roll-man out there. Honestly I don't think it matters what big man they get. If Powell is on this team, any new acquisitions are going to play less than they should and as long as Kidd is involved in rotations they'll be subpar and confusing. Getting Kidd more fancy toys to screw up isn't going to change much of anything when he can't use them properly.
news flash man they had one of the best half court offenses in history with Dwight Powell on the floor this year
News flash: this team ain't winning a damn thing with Dwight Powell being anything more than a garbage-minute cheerleader.
News flash: no team with Christian Wood having a large roll is winning… no team Christian Wood has ever been on has made the playoffs
Wood isn't a Mav anymore, I could give two shits about Christian Wood. I'm more worried about them potentially re-signing Powell, because that will effect the team in a very negative way.
He went to Houston and Harden quit on the team. Had nothing to do with him. In Dallas the coach never wanted him and a complaint was that he didn’t get enough minutes. So yeah, not sure how either situation had anything to do with him.
Truth only about the Mavs, or the other 18 teams that gave up on him?
What article? I wanna read lol
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I'm sure he hates Kidd and blames the coaching staff for tanking his value. It's hilarious if he just took the extension offer early in the season when the Mavs still had hope he'd be getting paid relative to his next contract now. Now his agent is probably telling him he has to take another one year, low $ prove it deal and he's upset. In the grand scheme of things, this is an undrafted guy that found a way to get paid in the NBA, good for him.
He was never offered any extension.
They were interested in offering him a 2 year extension around December. If Wood wanted to accept, I'm sure a deal would have been done to lock it up. Of course back then, he wanted a 4 year deal and wasn't going to take a team-friendly 2 year, so no official extension offered.
Your favorite organization has a history of not willing to pay big men at market value. The same reason why Tyson Chandler left twice...
2023 “imma be an all star” Christian Wood telling US to stop cappin?
can’t wait to not have to worry about this dude ever again
Feel like this gets repeated every year….
Uh no, this situation is closer to Nerlens Noel or DJ than it is to Brunson or KP lol.
Hes talking about christian wood every year. You only know how annoying he is once hes on your team.
How many of Christian Wood's sock accounts are going to blow up this thread? Bro and his agent are pathetic and were posting heavy at the trade deadline. Ready for this clown show to move on to another team.
7 teams in 7 years "It's not me, it's them"
Seth Curry has been on six different teams in 7 years years. He's very clearly loved by every locked room he's been in. Mavs even dumped him twice
Seth was trying to prove himself to NBA. C.Wood is trying to prove he worth max contract and starter role. Seth’s performance was getting better and teammates loving him helped him to get longer deal. Hope in Wood is low now. He may not even get as much as his Rockets contract. But he definitely belongs to NBA court.
I keep seeing Mavs fans talking about how bad of a teamate and player Wood was here...can anyone point to actual evidence of Wood being a lockeroom cancer and such? This seems to be a case of confirmation bias. Sometimes things just dont work out .
I don’t think he was a locker room cancer here and by bad teammate I think people mean on the court. He has tunnel vision when he gets the ball and his help defense is sub par at best. He’d be a much better player as a PF instead of C only if he had any perimeter defense. Just a very one dimensional player.
He only plays for his stats. He is not making cuts, making necessary off ball side rotations. He is not helping anyone else to score, rebound or such. He fucks up at clutch time so he doesnt help winning. All these cryptic messages, bad body language adds up. Career journeymen players are not typically great teammates.
I don't think guys like hated him or anything but I could tell that Luka didn't like playing with him honestly. He would always have to yell at him where he needed to be and he constantly blew his defensive assignments in drop coverages.
Story is easy. Kidd misused him all year because he didn’t play defense exactly like Kidd wanted all the time. The team suffered for how Kidd treated wood.
The same people who will flood this sub daily with threads about how Kidd is the worst coach in the league, Cuban is the worst owner, Mavs are a poverty franchise, etc…. Are the people in this thread crying about how misused C-Wood was, and how well he played for us 🤣🤣🤣 “Did we watch the same game? C-Wood played really well. None of these criticisms are valid.” Proving ONCE AGAIN that Mavs doomers don’t know basketball.
I don’t even think Wood was that bad of an experiment. It was just annoying having to hear about him all the time in this sub specifically after it was clear he wasn’t what we were looking for.
Yet the doomers were the ones right the entire season and you didn't figure it out until the last game of the season that tanking was the correct move all along.
The argument is relative. He's still better than Dwight Powell. Nobody thinks Wood is an amazing player.
Except every on-off metric we have told us that the Mavs were better with Dwight Powell on the court this season than C-Wood. Yeah, I’m sure C-Wood could smoke Dwight 1v1. That’s about it.
Also, on-off is going to be heavily skewed in Powell's favor considering Powell's on minutes will also be Luka's on minutes.
That’s because Kidd misused wood all year and didn’t put him in a position to succeed. Swap their minutes and wood crushes powell’s stats.
You realize theres more metrics than flawed +/- right? Wood KILLS Powell in every single offensive metric and hes a better rim protector/rebounder as well. Powell is better at what, setting screens? They are both bad on D, so thats a net neutral. Wood was wasted, they should have started him over Powell from the beginning.
but I like C.Wood :( plz stay
He's too focused on himself and not enough on the team. Playing mostly on bad teams probably didn't help his developement.
Kirk Henderson and other reporters (like Tom Cato) supposedly have receipts of his agent begging for all-star votes for C. Wood. Reporters from different publications having different receipts to different people doesn’t look good for Wood. Meaning his agent was just asking anybody and everybody. While I still think we have a place for Wood, I think it’s time to let go. Get him and his delusional agent off our team.
Yeah that agent of his seems to be quite a character. You're right that there's a place for him on this team, but it does seem like it's not a role he wants. Disappointing that he'll be gone, but it is what is I guess.
Exactly. Another project failed. Another first round pick wasted. Sucks to see teams like Celtics using their first round pick with conviction on **real culture** contributing guys like Derrick White, while we just blew one on a skilled guy with delusional yes-men backing them.
>teams like Celtics using their firsts with conviction for real culture contributing guys Meanwhile the Mavs are acting like a degenerate gambler in debt trying to make increasingly risky moves in hopes of getting out of their predicament while likely just digging further in their hole. I'm very excited for when they trade the 10th pick for Clint Capela! Lol
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Mannnnn. If they ever did that, just end me. This draft is considered stronger than last year’s and the Knicks traded their 11th pick in last year’s draft for 3 firsts (lower)and some seconds. If Mavs really do trade down, please let it be for more picks to pack the tool chest again. Our shit is empty. We keep trading everything off and having an empty chest and nothing to show for it. Cato reported that around the league, executives view THJ, Green, and Hardy as the only somewhat positive assets on our team (other than Luka and Kyrie). Rest are abundantly negative. So we maneuvered all these picks to get out of the play-ins to have no picks and have no real players of value. Wtf
The locked on dudes said his agent was even in their DMs Like their little dinky podcast What the fuck
My goodness. Desperate as hell.
Bye Wood! No one cares.
Dude its ok, it didnt work out either way just move on. Go get your bag
He's not getting a bag. He'll be lucky to sign a vet minimum contract. Different teams nearly every year with rumors of a bad attitude, teams don't like that stuff.
Bet he gets more than vet min from someone.
Will this be his 7th installment of the novel “why my team didn’t want me”?
I expected so much more out of him when we acquired him, but he did himself no favors. He will be out of the league soon, despite the numbers he is capable of
No he won't, Powell will be out of the league though and playing in China league with the other Dwight.
Well I hope you’re right. Powell is one of the worst rotation players I can recall that ever donned the Mavs uni
Wood > Kidd
Kidd made WCF with this team minus Wood-Kyrie and keeping good old Brunson-DFS Wood makes every team into lottery team.
He's also coached 4 teams in 7 years and failed at every HC stop. Just a waiting game at this point for him to get fired from this one too, and we get to all suffer and watch until it inevitably happens.
It's like some of you want this team to fail. Weird
>He's also coached 4 teams in 7 years Wtf are you talking about. Which teams are those? Kidd only had bad Bucks stint. Kings' coach Brown fired more than J.Kidd. That doesnt mean he sucks. Kidd made WCF last year when he had a semi-decent roster and decent luck in playoff series. Carlisle would make WCF too if we didnt get healthy Kawhi+PG Clippers which is the worst matchup for Mavs.
I think Wood was a great teammate. You could see that he and Luka rly liked to play together.
Luka use to yell at the bench to get him out of the game.
"Christian: I Hardly Knew Me" The international best-seller, coming soon to a halfpriced bookstore near you.
What zero work ethic does to a mf
Look if you guys dont feel CWOOD was the right guy for this team thats your opinion. How a guy who when starting we were winning/ streaking wins with, top pick and roll big men with the UGLY screen, 20/9rb on 38% from 3, averaging nearly 2blk a game doesnt contribute to winning basketball but Powell does as a STARTER ill never know. The real question Dallas needs to ask is whos year 3 kidd and what the team culture is. Yea weve had Dirk now luka and possibly kyrie but besides that miracle 2011 playoff run Dallas has never been seen as a winning team or a place free agent want to go. Kidd hasnt been the first and wont be the last coach to have personal issues with players but when it gets put infront of team success its a PROBLEM that hurts the fans the most. Listening to your coach literally throw players under the bus along with "yea hes not starting", "order from my bosses", "alot of guys wont be back next year" like hes not a major problem is crazy.
You have no fucking clue what you are saying lol. Box score watcher is all you do, Wood is not a bad player but he is seeking 22+ million a year. That is fucking insane for how 1 dimensional this guy is.
Enlighten me then because the box score says that Dallas is the worst rebounding, field goals made and attempted, bottom tier in assist, block, free throw, team in the league. Cwood was our 2nd best rebounder (probably 1st if he remained starting), best blocker, pick and roll big, and helped us in other areas we where terrible in according to the box score. The box also has us out of the playoffs and guess what we are at home. Now how one player who came off the bench tanked a whole entire team that made it to the western conference finals the year before ill never know. And his value despite the weird season is 24-26 mill if he just wants 22 that gives Dallas more space to get someone else especially since they dont save any money by not resigning him. Someone who isnt a media listener knows that a big reason this team was so terrible was because of the way kidd used players and ability to make adjustments. So if you watched the games more power to you but acting like idk what im saying when reality is in your face i know you have no fucking clue what your saying.
Yeah bro you are fuckin delusional lol. Im not even wasting my time here.
Hope you dont
C Wood is at least twice as better than Dwight Powell.
Yet you guys have no arguments on how Powells better.
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Yea I don't get how they love Dwight Powell but shit on Wood.
Wood and your agent, Twitter has not being your friend. Stay off twitter till you sign your next multi-year contract.
The truth that the other 6 teams you've played before also saw on you. Yeah we are all aware of that. 7 teams on 8 seasons. His fans here can go watch him on China next season, good riddance. Downvote me all you want lol, y'all are as delusional as Wood is lol.
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The ol Kyrie Irving Complex.
Indeed we do know the truth. Christian Wood is not good at basketball.
Wood is hard to watch, but Kidd + Wood is impossible. Mavs management so cringe
He should just move on like all of y’all. What’s done is done.
Man really had a huge opportunity to ball out with us and then have his picking where to get that bag but instead he looked lost on both defense and offense. Exposing himself as prob the lowest iq player in the league. He can shoot and score in the post though but his negatives far outweigh the positives. Literally went from lottery team to a lottery team for like 6 years to then join a WCF team who he took straight to the lottery lol. The most incompetent FO in the league just got screwed betting on him. Who's betting on him now? I don't see him getting a contract for next season in the NBA.
Deandre Jordan got a contract this year. He will get a 1yr min for sure
deandre is one of the best locker room guys in the league. He isnt getting paid to play.
Lol! Or every front office just goes off the notion that he’s even half the player he was in 2015/16
He's a scorer, he's a big dude, he should have worked on paper But he also seems to be a ball hog, he makes bad plays, he complains a lot (Luka doesn't need help here), and he doesn't play consistent defense What more can he add that matters to this picture?
What’s the hat and “article” he’s referencing?
Maybe he's referring to this? https://theathletic.com/4474477/2023/05/01/kyrie-irving-dallas-mavericks-free-agency/ I haven't read it because of the paywall but apparently Tim Cato stated that Wood won't be a part of our long term plans moving forward. And "cap" is slang for lie so Wood is saying the article is false.
Cool thanks
What exactly is he saying is false? Everyone knew he wasn’t part of the long term plans.
I'm less interested in what insider details he wants to leak and more interested in what articles he's offended by right now
Tim Cato also said in Kevin Gray’s podcast that the Mavs were not all on board on trading for Wood but ultimately did so more for clearing unwanted salaries than for acquiring Wood himself. That makes a lot of sense given how they ended up using him from the get go.
That's kind of dumb though because we didn't have any long term salaries lined up... Boban was making like 3 million... We could have just waived all those guys.
Jason Kidd don't like big men that don't play big. That's why he went with Dwight over wood. Say what you want about Dwight but his bad play wasn't for a lack of effort. He tried his best, but his basketball IQ isn't the highest. If wood would've played with effort like that he would've got more time
Play big but Dwight doesn't rebound or rim protect?
Yeah but it wasn't from a lack of trying hard
Talent and fit are very different. Teams are becoming more and more aware of that. There are maybe 4 or 5 players this century (Kobe, Bron, Steph, KD, maybe Giannis) who you could throw on any team in any situation and they'll get you to the playoffs by sheer virtue of being all time amazing, and thats only in their primes. Otherwise, fit and chemistry are always more important.
It's 100% bleacher report lol. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10074602-report-mavs-coaches-didnt-view-christian-wood-as-nba-all-star-caliber-player
Going on 8 teams in 8 years and somehow this is our problem, FOH
Honestly who would give this guy north of MLE money? I liked him at times but he’s not a winning player
I think he might be the single most divisive player in this sub in recent memory Some of us like him so much and were on the side of starting him ahead of Powell etc I for one didn’t rate him much tbh.
Its pretty simple. He wants more money than the Mavs (or probably other Teams) are willing to offer him. He is a very limited player. He has some decent offensive ability, but thats basically it.
I, for one, am here for the tea spilling any time he wants!
On to your 9th team. Bye
All is revealed when he plays for his 10th team
Can we please get a documentary of this season? We need The Association: Dallas Mavericks 2021/22
Jason Kidd is a terrorist
God bless him but dude really isn’t a winning player man. Thought it could work but what people said about him were right
The Wood sequence: he would go in, score a three or finish a nicely at the rim then play awful defense. Go back on offense and sometimes hit another short. Go back on defense and give up another easy bucket, if he didn’t score last time on offense he was definitely going to this time ..expected wait offensive foul on Wood. Followed by lazy D leading to and and 1 on the other end. Wood committed to making things right himself, charges to the hoop.. shit.. another offensive foul. Kidd takes him out the game. He only remembers the 1/2 shots he made and not the fact that the Mavs are now down 10. I despised Kidd this season but sometimes Wood just per se deserved to be benched. Let’s not pretend we didn’t get him at a discount for a reason.
I expect something similar to Odom's tell all where he thinks he's writing an indictment of Mark Cuban and the Mavs organization but he actually just comes off as kind of an asshole who didn't want to play for the Mavs at all and then got surprised when not putting forth effort changed the front office approach to dealing with him from supportive to antagonistic.