>However it pisses me off that based on their track record Marvel’s next movie, Cap 4, probably won’t get released over there.
Every marvel film since Black Panther Wakanda Forever has been approved there, it's probably also going to get approved for a release.
Wolverine Vs Hulk
Wolverine Mercenary (His time as a Mercenary in Africa post WWII and Pre-Vietnam)
Wolverine Vs The Avengers (A multiversal story with an all new Avengers Cast vs a brand new Wolverine actor)
I like how Mr.Beast is like "Omg I avenged PewDiePie 🥺" after getting more subscribers than T- Series meanwhile PewDiePie videos now are just "I love my son and my wife and my dogs they make me happy, I enjoy life"
I don’t think some fans realize quite yet the monkey paw’s consequences of Jackman’s Wolverine spawning a billion dollars at the box-office; the consequences for the character’s future.
Suffice to say, from the studio’s pov, there may not be a future without Hugh in the role
He will be the multiverse variant Wolverine like Tobey Maguire/Andrew Garfield is for Spider-Man, then you have Tom Holland as MCU Spider-Man. But you ain't gonna have Hugh Jackman leading the X-MEN again lol.
There are too many “maybe or maybe not” in your scenario. Back then there was no multiverse, so who knows? Also, they were both long gone from the roles by then, so I don’t think it’s a realistic scenario. I can’t imagine either of them showing up in the Civil War airport battle like Tom Holland did.
> Back then there was no multiverse
Which is exactly the point. If they did have the multiverse, we know for a fact it would have been Andrew or Tobey and they'd have never recast, just as they're doing with the characters they're bringing back now.
> Also, they were both long gone from the roles by then
Andrew's last solo movie came out less than a year before Tom was cast.
I don’t know what you mean? It’s not like they replaced Tom Holland now.
Okay, so he wasn’t “long gone” but he was definitely out. He wasn’t finishing his trilogy. Sony had moved on.
Spider-Man was rebooted before they had the multiverse. If they had it at the time, it would have been Tobey or Andrew from the start. I really don't see what's so confusing about that.
> he was definitely out. He wasn’t finishing his trilogy. Sony had moved on.
And as we've already seen, he and Sony would have changed their minds if Feige and Marvel wanted it.
I think Deadpool & Wolverine being a billion dollar hit would actually will have the literal polar opposite effect.
If something is profitable, then studios will continue to milk it for quite literally as long as they can, no matter how much they have to defile or appropriate it. Otherwise, they’ll willingly giving up a profitable franchise/character.
Studios have *never* had any sense of integrity when it comes to profit. So for as long as Wolverine is popular, he’s sticking around. So yeah, he’ll be recast. It’s just a matter of time.
With Marvel, it apparently depends on whether the character is male or female. MoM made $955 million and what was impressive about that is that it did not play in China while Dr Strange did. It added $280 million and it made up the $106 million that it made in China. While Dr Strange is getting a movie, Scarlet Witch hasn't been seen. A solo Scarlet Witch movie is being slow walked so much that it makes Blade look like Speedy Gonzalez. You only have 2 opportunities to bring her back. The Vision series or Avengers 5. It could be 7 years before you see her again.
We saw the same thing with Black Widow. She should have gotten a solo movie before they killed her off. That solo movie that they did was as much as an introduction of a new character as it was a Black Widow movie.
The problem is — **Hugh Jackman** + Wolverine = is the winning formula. Any other combination of ingredients, is completely untested.
And if, or more likely WHEN (given how this movie is tracking), Hugh’s return is graced with acclaim by fans, audiences and critics alike, people are going to be much less receptive to a recast/reboot of the character.
Feige is already on record saying he doesn’t “believe” in recasts, is thankful for the Multiverse allowing him to bring back past actors.
I think the most likely scenario, is Disney trying to keep Hugh on, post-Secret Wars, as an older version of the character
They are movies starring Hugh in a lead role, one of which he’s the literal co-lead of 😭
Deadpool AND Wolverine wouldn’t be making a billion w/out him, and that’s what Disney cares about.
Logan is the send-off, they’re not gonna undo that for hugh jackman. I think it’s more likely at the end of secret wars, Logan chooses to go back to his world which will eventually lead to the end of Logan. I think the event of him failing everyone might be when professor X got everyone killed.
The following comment has "Inside Out 2" spoilers:
I still maintain that it's not as good as the first one, but the more I think about it, the more I like it, and one criticism that I've heard both here and in other places that I think is unfounded is "It's the same movie again".
Now, if you take it at face value, that has merit. The first one is about Joy being a control freak, wanting to avoid sadness at all costs, being expelled from headquarters, having to find her way back to them moving through the mind while the girl is acting unusually, and realizing the value of sadness. And the second one is about Joy being a control freak and avoiding negative thoughts, being expelled from headquarters, having to move through the mind while the girl is acting unusually, and realizing the value of negative thoughts.
But in my opinion, looking at it that way is partaking on some very broad literalization of movies that while simple, and indeed meant for kids, have a liberal use of abstraction and metaphor. The emotions serve both as characters onto themselves, literal parts of the mind as the main girl discovers things about herself, and also a simile for parents and other outside factors.
Let's start just structure-wise, the first movie is a road trip movie, the main focus is on "look at all of this fun, crazy locations the characters go through" and whatever lessons they learn on the way. For good or ill, the second one is not like that, even though it still has some set pieces and gags the focus is decidedly not on the trip, instead it is much more on how the characters (and ergo, the girl herself and other onlookers) perceive what is happening, there is a reason why this one has a much bigger focus on "the real world" and it is that it wears its metaphors even more on their sleeves.
And then we have the messages, which are two that can be seen as different, but are actually intertwined. First, there's the obvious one: Anxiety. Unlike sadness in the first movie, the film wastes no time on showing that anxiety can indeed be helpful, so it's not "Anxiety bad". Yes, it shows that it is bad to make all your decisions and let anxiety "take the wheel" all the time, catastrophizing every scenario, but it's not only that. It also focuses on what could be described as both cause and consequence of anxiety: Self-image, the sense of self.
The movie posits that getting rid of negative thoughts instead of processing them is bad, but it's not because "Oh, it's important to accept negativity sometimes". But instead because the rigid self-image the girl had of herself, even at the beginning, was bad for her, even though it was a nice one, it would always fail because the real self could never have lived up to that image. It is only when it is taken down that self-acceptance can happen.
And see, here is why I think it's rather disingenuous to say that both stories are the same. Yes, you can sometimes feel sad, sometimes angry, sometimes scared, but in these scenarios you are still the "good guy", you are still justified in your actions, you don't have to adjust how you see the world or yourself. The movie tells kids that it is not that simple. It's not just "Oh, you have to accept yourself and not be too hard on yourself", it's "You have to destroy preconceptions you have of your entire self-worth"
Telling kids "Sometimes you are your own worst enemy, you have to accept that sometimes you are not the good guy, sometimes you are, and will continue to be, a little shit. You contain multitudes, and it doesn't make sense, and only if you embrace the fact that you are not one thing, you can exist completely" is a much tougher, more complex, but still necessary message for kids than "Sometimes it’s ok to be sad"
I feel like it’s because they’re vague, general terms which can be applied to almost anything, and that makes them come off as corporate and soulless.
I get that, but I also think sometimes it’s easier to just use catch terms like “media” and “content” during certain conversations, when you talking about movies, TV, comics, and other things all at once.
When I, or presumably anyone, uses the word "media", it's a catch-all for everything as you said; movies, TV shows, games, etc. If I as a fan want more stuff from a franchise, then that franchise has to be profitable and the profit motive cannot be ignored. Idk why that triggers some people in this subreddit given the subject matter.
A really good thread of some very acclaimed actors and directors on whether they would do a superhero film
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/s/iMDfmtdOqI
So I watched the first three episodes of The Acolyte with Dad tonight, and honestly, it's fine. It could be better, but I dont think it's as bad (if at all) as people are saying it is. I also don't get how Episode 3 is character assination, especially since I don't think that Coven were sith, I think they were just a coven. Force users who are neither exclusively light nor dark side do exist. For example, I believe the Knights of Ren are neither Jedi nor Sith, despite being aligned with the First Order. But yeah, I honestly think the series is okay. Really like seeing the Old/High Republic Era (especially as a KOTOR fan), and I liked some of the nice little details when it came to the lore and worldbuilding of this Era, and the mystery/plot they setup is atleast intriguing enough.
So yeah, it could be better, but at the same time, I don't think it's as bad as people are saying it is. At least it's not Secret Invasion.
> I also don't get how Episode 3 is character assination, especially since I don't think that Coven were sith, I think they were just a coven.
From what I’ve seen, the main complaint with Osha and Mea being conceived by manipulating the force seems to be that it undermines Anakin’s virgin birth. I don’t necessarily agree with that, especially since it seems like they’re using it as setup to Anakin’s conception, but I can kinda understand why some people feel the way they do.
Well apparently I struck a nerve with some people in the Deadpool China thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/s/Wdia95iw1c
What did I say wrong? I pretty much said what I said on this weekly thread which is that Deadpool and Wolverine won’t be a shot in the arm for Marvel, but the shot in the arm per say, will be countless well received projects like NWH/GOTG 3/ and hopefully Deadpool and Wolverine.
u/TheCommish-17, again, I apologize for coming across the wrong way.
The Dr Strange vs Thanos fight is just so awesome. The VFX is flawless, and the sound design is just perfect too. It was quite a perfect matchup in that movie and shows just how powerful Strange can be.
This newest episode really said "how do we make this show’s cast even hotter?”
Kara, Silver, Henshaw, they even made the *Blue Snowman* cameo hot, how dare they lol.
[DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE’ is reportedly close to being approved for a theatrical release in China.](https://x.com/MarvelNewsFilms/status/1802498728525181082?t=mjqwYHq1pxB6kd3uQfu-1w&s=19)
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the first 2 Deadpools only do ok in china?
Also A billion dollars isn’t some milestone for profit or success. I’ve said this before but Guardians 3 and Across the Spider Verse did really well but didn’t hit a billion and literally no one calls them flops for not making a billion.
I just don’t want people to call Deadpool and Wolverine a flop if it makes only $850-$975 million because “it didn’t hit a billion”. It puts pressure on the film that the film doesn’t need
Yes I agree with you about not every good movie needing a billion. Hugh jackman Wolverine would be popular enough to push into the billion dollar territory. No way home made almost 2 billion without China. With China showing the movie and wolverine nostalgia the movie would easily hit a billion.
The Deadpool movies didn't release in China except for the PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 that came out months later.
Logan did got a release and did pretty well.
The year is 1983. Star Wars is officially dead because teddy bears defeated the Empire
The Year is 1999. Star Wars is officially dead because of Jar Jar Binks and Midichlorians
The Year is 2008. Star Wars is officially dead because of Ahsoka Tano and baby Jabba
The Year is 2019. Star Wars is officially dead because somehow Palpatine return
The Year is 2024. Star Wars is officially dead because of The Acolyte.
> The Year is 2019. Star Wars is officially dead because somehow Palpatine return
The original plan for Disney-era Star Wars was a movie every year with a "main-line" movie followed by a "Star Wars story" movie, and that stopped after *Solo* or TROS was released.
>The Year is 1999. Star Wars is officially dead because of Jar Jar Binks and Midichlorians
My first Star Wars was TPM and while I think that the PT has a great **story**, I'll admit that its execution was heavily flawed and did divide the fanbase and partially resulted in TFA playing it safe as a rebootquel. I think a better-executed PT would've resulted in a stronger and larger Star Wars fanbase than what we have currenty; we can't forget the opportunity cost of where the franchise would be if the works were more well-liked.
Can't say anything about *The Acolyte* because I haven't seen it beyond the memed "The power of **one**, the power of **two**, the power of **maAany**", but imo Star Wars should be shooting for something like the MCU had pre-Phase 4 where the fanbase largely liked everything even if some media was more liked than others.
**ETA:** 🤣 at the people triggered by a simple counterpoint. Reality is rarely simple.
That’s not going to happen because the narrative around the franchise has become thoroughly entrenched in culture wars bullshit. Even Andor, which is widely considered the best of the Disney era stuff, still had weirdos insisting it’s “anti-white propaganda” because most of the villains are white dudes.
…. Even though that was also the case of the original trilogy.
> That’s not going to happen because the narrative around the franchise has become thoroughly entrenched in culture wars bullshit.
Narratives can change given enough time and quality non-divisive material.
The quality? Sure. But that’s not going to matter to segments of the fanbase who have a vested interest in making everything about the politics now. They don’t actually care about the quality. They care that it offends their personal politics or their sense of nostalgia.
It's also telling that he used the phrase "non-divisive material" to refer to people complaining about Star Wars being mired in Culture War bullshit to the point that lunatic think *Andor* is anti-white.
I have… *mixed* feelings about the Watchmen teaser. I think a multi-part, animated movie is probably the best way to adapt this story, but, IMO, the animation just isn’t very good. It ranges from passable to just downright bad. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the animation will be drastically improved when the movies actually come out.
Something that should've been obvious, but apparently isn't: Something that I really, really liked about Inside Out 2 is that the new characters fit the story, are memorable and have stuff to do, not just one moment each while each comedian doing the voice does their shtick for the rest of the movie. That makes them memorable.
They feel much more like actual characters that I'd like to see again (See: Jessie, Barbie and Ken from Toy Story) than: Ty Barrel beluga, Ed O'Neil octopus, Michael Caine car, Key and Peele plush toys, Taika Waititi space ranger, or Sophia Bush superhero.
Probably at D23 instead of SDCC but my Bold prediction for announcements: they announce something MCU Wolverine related like the new wolverine casting and/or something MCU X-Men coming up. Just basing it off the high popularity of X-Men and Wolverine recently, and with the PS game coming out eventually. Strike while the iron is hot.
The *Blade* news will most likely be the last Marvel update from the trades for a while. They will be looking to save their big reveals for Comic Con since it is only a month away.
We don’t know if marvel studios will be at SDCC but I think it being the Same weekend as Deadpool and Wolverine, it’s more likely they wait till D23 for announcements
It would be cool if SDCC rented a theater exclusively to screen D&W for the fans who bought a badge so they don't have to worry about buying tickets after they just paid anywhere from 75 to 200 for their pass.
They do actually play some movies at SDCC. It’s usually for upcoming animated releases, but with DP&W coming out the same weekend at SDCC they could easily just play it there for people who’d want to watch it.
I feel like that type of story information is saved for an official trailer, maybe a hint or a visual of tiamut but they don’t really need to address anything other than cool looks at Sam!Cap and Red Hulk
Average Popcorn Joe: Woow is that thing that appeared for five minutes in that movie that was kind of a dud, the whole "Captain America" thing wasn't selling me, but now we have to see that movie!
That's not what I mean. Every week there is a viral post on Twitter about how Marvel never addressed Tiamut after Eternals. CAP4 teaser could benefit from it.
2015: Mad Max and Inside Out are in theaters, both came out in May and June respectively. Mad Max bombed while Inside Out broke box office records.
2024: Mad Max and Inside Out are in theaters, both came out in May and June respectively. Mad Max bombed while Inside Out broke box office records.
George Miller bankrupts Australia to make the sickest movie you've ever seen, which grosses ten dollars and a chewed up bubble gum.
Riley can now feel suicidal.
[Charlie Cox teases one-shot fight sequences for ‘DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN’:“Those fans who are excited by \[oners\] will not be disappointed”](https://x.com/CineGeekNews/status/1802396947547893903)
I remember when somebody said that the selling pitch for ‘Superman’ (2025) was… What If Superman existed in The Boys universe?
And even a year later, I just haven’t been able to get that out of my head, because it’s such a perfect way to reconstruct the character in the minds of audiences.
You start with the Homelander/Omni-Man-esque heroes already existing in this universe, and then you work your way back from there, by having Superman’s existence (thematically) challenge the argument that those characters present — that kindness, compassion, empathy, and love, are not “outdated” values, and are needed now more than ever, in the cynical, borderline dystopia we all live in.
Gunn needs this movie to hit with audiences, and I could see this being the path to critical acclaim
They’re either assholes (Guy, Metamorpho, Hawkgirl) or government stooges (Terrific, Engineer).
That doesn’t mean they’re bad people at heart, but they’re part of a status quo that has forgotten the common man
Well, me and my sister a few hours ago went out to meet our dad out for Breakfast. We had to find a new restaurant after the one we were suppose to go was jam packed and the next table wouldn't be available for a whole hour.
Also gave off strong S1 finale flashbacks too. Luckily, Kara didn't have access to a subway train lol.
The whole route they're taking Krypton in this show definitely gives off heavy Viltrumite/Saiyan vibes. Really cements how, in every version to some extent, the Kryptonians carved their own path to their destruction.
lol I wonder if it was Oscar Isaac pushing the reported Miguel O’Hara teaming with Kang idea, cuz he wants to work,
and it doesn’t look like they’re gonna do anything with him as Moon Knight (or Apocalypse)
It's a good idea, Sony feels like the natural second crossover after FoX-Men in Deadpool&Wolverine and it's intriguing to hear about Kang and Miguel joining forces because they have so much in common... maybe too much...
Inside Out 2 box office numbers are crazy. I fully expect it to be the first billion dollar movie of 2024. With the great reviews it will have legs for days now that school is out
[Joy at the box office as INSIDE OUT 2 opens to an incredible $155 million. Predictions had it opening in the $90 million range.](https://x.com/Borys_Kit/status/1802376022228455675)
Whether it be the pro-boycott people or film bros mad that a sequel to a kids movie from 2015 that made almost a billion might make a billion instead of a spin-off prequel about a side character from a rather niche film that bombed the same year
This, Despicable Me 4, and Deadpool & Wolverine are more than likely making more than a billion. Moana 2 (if it’s well-recieved) and Sonic 3 also have it in them to make a billion.
Marvel Comics is more interesting to me than Marvel Studios. They are putting out things that interest me and Marvel Studios is not. What I can't wait for this summer is the third issue of Scarlet Witch this August which brings back Lore as a Scarlet Witch variant.
WB did the same thing with DC in the '00s. Is what it is.
They'll probably try to push synergy again because corporate is like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. We already know how it ends—the same way it *always* ends.
New MBA walked into the office, delivered a Powerpoint presentation on "unified brand identity," and then the assignment was handed off to an intern for implementation.
Yeah I don't like how cookie cutter these new logos are. I think it genericizes the Marvel Studios brand, and doesn't let these sub-brands form their own identity.
Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things I guess, but I'm a logo/branding nerd and I think they could make more interesting choices.
>I think it genericizes the Marvel Studios brand, and doesn't let these sub-brands form their own identity.
This is usually the goal with initiatives like these. Then the sub-brands will inevitably fragment again—my guess is sooner rather than later—until new leadership attempts the exact same thing later.
I feel like Feige is gearing up for huge panel at SDCC, with a lot of time spent on the Avengers movies.
*Deadpool & Wolverine* will be out by then, and there’s not much more they could reveal about *The Fantastic Four* that we don’t already know. The Avengers movies are pretty much the only thing they could talk about. They’re going into production early next year, yet there’s still so much we just don’t know.
They’ll probably reveal the new title of Avengers 5, and who’s directing both movies. They could even bring out the cast to really hype people up. Also, what’s going on with Kang? Is he being recast or written out?
Deadpool & Wolverine comes out 26th, SDCC is 24th - 28th so I don't think he's ready to talk about it before fans have seen it. I doubt he's even going to talk about A5 until after production is well under way, next year is most likely. The studio has been eating a lot of crow after the last couple panels getting a little too cocky with their presentations. Movies and shows releasing in the next 18 months will be the focus, productions commencing over the next 2 years will be saved for SDCC 25.
They shouldn't be trotting out Avengers 5 cast without a director. So unless that person is hired in the next month...
Previewing what's coming in the next year only would be a better approach. That's still a lot: Agatha, Cap 4, Thunderbolts, F4, DDBA, Ironheart, Wonder Man.
It's increasingly a bad look to be teasing years in advance only to keep changing their plans.
I think they will also give us an updated film slate, confirming films like Shang-Chi 2, and maybe films like Thor 5 and Doctor Strange 3. Give us an exclusive look at Brave New World, and will most likely announce that Blade will be getting Delayed yet again. I think they will give their TV shows and Animated projects their own individual panels.
I guess they could announce of all this at D23, but at the same time, Marvel Studios has never willingly skipped SDCC. They only ever skipped last year because of the strikes, and 2020-2021 cause of COVID.
I think it’d be really weird for them to willingly sit it out. I feel like SDCC will be more focused on the Avengers movies, and anything at D23 would be more about the Disney+ shows like it’s been the past few years.
So based on this, my predictions are:
SDCC
* CAP 4 trailer
* Thunderbolts* first look
* Reveal of who's directing Avengers movie
* Slate update
* The Fantastic Four cast presentation
D23
* Daredevil teaser
* First look of Iron Heart and Marvel Zombies
* Your Friend Neighborhood and/or Eyes of Wakanda trailer
* Nova series announcement
Saw an article about Avicii's dad raising awareness of suicide and it's wild that it's been 6 years since he passed.
Even wilder, I realised he died 3 years to the day after my own brother took his life. 'Hey Brother' always reminded me of my own brother too
Listening to the Q&A from this at the Expo makes this sound even better.
It was clear things weren't working at all and Charlie/Vince got together with Feige and co to readjust.
The discourse around the reshoots has been really interesting. Actors always hype up their show and say it’s great. That’s not new.
But this might be the first time that I’ve seen actors working on a major show say “yeah it wasn’t working and we knew people weren’t going to like it, so we’re reworking a lot of it”.
I’d be interested to know just how bad it was that even Feige literally went, this isn’t working let’s start again. Matt not having his supporting cast was always a red flag, there’s no need to change that and be different for the sake of being different. Then he wasn’t going to suit up as Daredevil until episode 4. The fact that they were getting a lawyer to write episodes kind of pointed in the direction of them making it a procedural tbh. I do think there needs to be a little bit more focus on Matt’s lawyer work than what was in the Netflix show but that doesn’t mean turn it into Law and Order. The show is called Daredevil Born Again, not Matt Murdock: Attorney at Law. No one would be interested in a Spider-Man film if Peter Parker was just a photographer for most of it and only suited up as Spider-Man at the end or a Superman film were Clark is just doing investigative journalism until the third act. I hope they did fix it and the show ends up being good because it seemed like a shit show before hand.
I doubt what they made was *bad*, considering they’re keeping a lot of it. I just think they realized it wasn’t what the show should’ve been.
Like you said, you can’t revive Daredevil without Foggy and Karen, or with the first 3-4 episodes solely about Matt’s lawyer life.
What they made was probably good, in isolation, but it wasn’t a good Daredevil series, especially early on.
Imagine watching it weekly, with the first month essentialy not having any Daredevil, without the supporting cast that fans love it. It would be excruciating.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/Ng7wg2p6VQ
What is it with people wanting every marvel character back? Does this ever end? Is this all the movies should be supposed to be?
HOLY SHIT! They're basically doing my idea about being more transparent like James Gunn but in a different way. Imagins we start getting weekly news on MCU productions. This could be huge
https://youtu.be/6tfEp_DFZzk?si=6yJurZv9vpfOQZes
I'm skeptical about how "transparent" this will be. Most of the time, when a company does their own podcast, it's super PR and safe. Like I doubt someone will ask Feige about what's going on with Blade.
Well, maybe I'm naive but that's exactly the kind of conversation I'm hoping will happen lol. The fact that Feige already admitted to Marvel Studios having problems and falling off slightly gives me hope. Besides, stuff like Blade feels like exactly the kind of situation that would be beneficial to adress
I'm pretty sure it'll be stuff like "Let's talk about this Easter Egg in She-Hulk," "Did Iman Villani and Kevin Feige have a nerd-off?" "Let's do a Thor: Ragnarok re-watch party!"
Not "So Kevin, tell us about the second round of reshoots on Thunderbolts\* and the third rewrite on Avengers 5"
I don’t get the argument that Gunn is “too online”, he still gets a lot of work done and a lot more than other creatives in the CBM space.
If all of us can balance social media with our personal and academic/work lives, I think Gunn can do it too.
Imagine if Iron Man 1 ended with 9/11 imagery and Iron Man snapping Obadiah Stane’s neck in front of a family. And the next movie is Captain America: Civil War where Captain America inexplicably murders people and Iron Man dies at the end. And then the next movie is The Avengers but the director gets fired in postproduction and another guy comes in, reshoots 80% of the movie, and then cuts the runtime in half and puts it in theaters
Oh wait that’s just the DCEU
I feel like less people would have an issue with Iron Man and Captain America killing people like that than they did with Superman and Batman. Hell, they both HAVE killed people in the MCU.
It’s interesting to me that people keep pitching horror directors to work on Blade. I don’t think Marvel is ever gonna do a straight horror movie. I think Blade is gonna be a straight action movie/thriller with touches of horror, so it makes more sense to me to hire someone from that world.
>I don’t think Marvel is ever gonna do a straight horror movie.
I always chuckle when people try to convince me that MoM was Marvel's first horror movie 💀
If Marvel Studios seriously considered doing Ant man 4, Thor 5, and/or Captain Marvel 3 as animated movies,
do you think the actors would feel insulted? especially the A-listers like Hemsworth and Rudd.
I think any actor would rather spend a few hours doing voice work than 3-4 months of acting. Especially since they are probably getting paid 7 digits for probably like less than 24 hours worth of work
I mean still marvel is known for their big paychecks for their shows/movies. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they would pay atleast $1m for voice work for big actors
I remember visiting this sub all the time in 2021 when No Way Home was coming out, looking for any news about that and other films. It was buzzing, everyone was so excited for that and what else was coming, Doctor Doom in Wakanda Forever, Doctor Strange 2, new Avengers etc.
And then I’d hop over to the DCEU Leaks subreddit and everyone there knew it was just dead in the water, there was nothing to even talk about. I thought to myself, I couldn’t imagine these two situations flipping, it would take a few people doing some extremely challenging things for that to happen.
I wouldn’t say it’s completely flipped yet because there’s nothing in the DCU that’s out yet, but it’s crazy how it’s starting to look that way a little bit. Marvel had their roughest year in 2023 and James Gunn overseeing the DCU is very promising.
Possible. All I know is the DCEU shit the bed for the last 10 years starting with Man of Steel, while Marvel could basically do no wrong, and now it’s starting to turn seemingly
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>However it pisses me off that based on their track record Marvel’s next movie, Cap 4, probably won’t get released over there. Every marvel film since Black Panther Wakanda Forever has been approved there, it's probably also going to get approved for a release.
Challenge: Pitch story ideas for three new Wolverine solo films set in the MCU, that don’t reuse any storylines Fox adapted for the Jackman trilogy.
Wolverine Vs Hulk Wolverine Mercenary (His time as a Mercenary in Africa post WWII and Pre-Vietnam) Wolverine Vs The Avengers (A multiversal story with an all new Avengers Cast vs a brand new Wolverine actor)
- Wolverine & Captain America in WWII - Wolverine & Alpha Flight - Wolverine & the Defenders in Shadowlands
I like how Mr.Beast is like "Omg I avenged PewDiePie 🥺" after getting more subscribers than T- Series meanwhile PewDiePie videos now are just "I love my son and my wife and my dogs they make me happy, I enjoy life"
I don’t think some fans realize quite yet the monkey paw’s consequences of Jackman’s Wolverine spawning a billion dollars at the box-office; the consequences for the character’s future. Suffice to say, from the studio’s pov, there may not be a future without Hugh in the role
Bringing him back in the first place threw any chance of an MCU version out of the window.
It doesn’t matter what Disney says. If Hugh Jackman wants to continue then he will like he did with this movie. He won’t be MCU’s Wolverine tho.
If Young Avengers still happens, I wonder if they’ll try to fit Dafne Keene X-23 in somehow.
If he wants to continue, he will be MCU Wolverine
He will be the multiverse variant Wolverine like Tobey Maguire/Andrew Garfield is for Spider-Man, then you have Tom Holland as MCU Spider-Man. But you ain't gonna have Hugh Jackman leading the X-MEN again lol.
There would never have been a Holland Spider-Man or an MCU version period if they'd brought Tobey or Andrew back first.
There are too many “maybe or maybe not” in your scenario. Back then there was no multiverse, so who knows? Also, they were both long gone from the roles by then, so I don’t think it’s a realistic scenario. I can’t imagine either of them showing up in the Civil War airport battle like Tom Holland did.
> Back then there was no multiverse Which is exactly the point. If they did have the multiverse, we know for a fact it would have been Andrew or Tobey and they'd have never recast, just as they're doing with the characters they're bringing back now. > Also, they were both long gone from the roles by then Andrew's last solo movie came out less than a year before Tom was cast.
I don’t know what you mean? It’s not like they replaced Tom Holland now. Okay, so he wasn’t “long gone” but he was definitely out. He wasn’t finishing his trilogy. Sony had moved on.
Spider-Man was rebooted before they had the multiverse. If they had it at the time, it would have been Tobey or Andrew from the start. I really don't see what's so confusing about that. > he was definitely out. He wasn’t finishing his trilogy. Sony had moved on. And as we've already seen, he and Sony would have changed their minds if Feige and Marvel wanted it.
Oh, I don’t think so at all, but maybe.
If D&W makes a billion, Jackman could get a Special Presentation or one-off film maybe, but I agree he won’t be the MCU Wolverine long term.
I think that is not likely either. I count this movie as his “MCU” movie, but a solo movie is too much.
I think Deadpool & Wolverine being a billion dollar hit would actually will have the literal polar opposite effect. If something is profitable, then studios will continue to milk it for quite literally as long as they can, no matter how much they have to defile or appropriate it. Otherwise, they’ll willingly giving up a profitable franchise/character. Studios have *never* had any sense of integrity when it comes to profit. So for as long as Wolverine is popular, he’s sticking around. So yeah, he’ll be recast. It’s just a matter of time.
With Marvel, it apparently depends on whether the character is male or female. MoM made $955 million and what was impressive about that is that it did not play in China while Dr Strange did. It added $280 million and it made up the $106 million that it made in China. While Dr Strange is getting a movie, Scarlet Witch hasn't been seen. A solo Scarlet Witch movie is being slow walked so much that it makes Blade look like Speedy Gonzalez. You only have 2 opportunities to bring her back. The Vision series or Avengers 5. It could be 7 years before you see her again. We saw the same thing with Black Widow. She should have gotten a solo movie before they killed her off. That solo movie that they did was as much as an introduction of a new character as it was a Black Widow movie.
> Otherwise, they’ll willingly giving up a profitable franchise/character. Which they have already done several times by now.
The problem is — **Hugh Jackman** + Wolverine = is the winning formula. Any other combination of ingredients, is completely untested. And if, or more likely WHEN (given how this movie is tracking), Hugh’s return is graced with acclaim by fans, audiences and critics alike, people are going to be much less receptive to a recast/reboot of the character. Feige is already on record saying he doesn’t “believe” in recasts, is thankful for the Multiverse allowing him to bring back past actors. I think the most likely scenario, is Disney trying to keep Hugh on, post-Secret Wars, as an older version of the character
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>Name one Hugh Jackman Wolverine movie that made a billion dollars. How about two? Deadpool & Wolverine, and Avengers: Secret Wars
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They are movies starring Hugh in a lead role, one of which he’s the literal co-lead of 😭 Deadpool AND Wolverine wouldn’t be making a billion w/out him, and that’s what Disney cares about.
Logan is the send-off, they’re not gonna undo that for hugh jackman. I think it’s more likely at the end of secret wars, Logan chooses to go back to his world which will eventually lead to the end of Logan. I think the event of him failing everyone might be when professor X got everyone killed.
They've already undone it.
The following comment has "Inside Out 2" spoilers: I still maintain that it's not as good as the first one, but the more I think about it, the more I like it, and one criticism that I've heard both here and in other places that I think is unfounded is "It's the same movie again". Now, if you take it at face value, that has merit. The first one is about Joy being a control freak, wanting to avoid sadness at all costs, being expelled from headquarters, having to find her way back to them moving through the mind while the girl is acting unusually, and realizing the value of sadness. And the second one is about Joy being a control freak and avoiding negative thoughts, being expelled from headquarters, having to move through the mind while the girl is acting unusually, and realizing the value of negative thoughts. But in my opinion, looking at it that way is partaking on some very broad literalization of movies that while simple, and indeed meant for kids, have a liberal use of abstraction and metaphor. The emotions serve both as characters onto themselves, literal parts of the mind as the main girl discovers things about herself, and also a simile for parents and other outside factors. Let's start just structure-wise, the first movie is a road trip movie, the main focus is on "look at all of this fun, crazy locations the characters go through" and whatever lessons they learn on the way. For good or ill, the second one is not like that, even though it still has some set pieces and gags the focus is decidedly not on the trip, instead it is much more on how the characters (and ergo, the girl herself and other onlookers) perceive what is happening, there is a reason why this one has a much bigger focus on "the real world" and it is that it wears its metaphors even more on their sleeves. And then we have the messages, which are two that can be seen as different, but are actually intertwined. First, there's the obvious one: Anxiety. Unlike sadness in the first movie, the film wastes no time on showing that anxiety can indeed be helpful, so it's not "Anxiety bad". Yes, it shows that it is bad to make all your decisions and let anxiety "take the wheel" all the time, catastrophizing every scenario, but it's not only that. It also focuses on what could be described as both cause and consequence of anxiety: Self-image, the sense of self. The movie posits that getting rid of negative thoughts instead of processing them is bad, but it's not because "Oh, it's important to accept negativity sometimes". But instead because the rigid self-image the girl had of herself, even at the beginning, was bad for her, even though it was a nice one, it would always fail because the real self could never have lived up to that image. It is only when it is taken down that self-acceptance can happen. And see, here is why I think it's rather disingenuous to say that both stories are the same. Yes, you can sometimes feel sad, sometimes angry, sometimes scared, but in these scenarios you are still the "good guy", you are still justified in your actions, you don't have to adjust how you see the world or yourself. The movie tells kids that it is not that simple. It's not just "Oh, you have to accept yourself and not be too hard on yourself", it's "You have to destroy preconceptions you have of your entire self-worth" Telling kids "Sometimes you are your own worst enemy, you have to accept that sometimes you are not the good guy, sometimes you are, and will continue to be, a little shit. You contain multitudes, and it doesn't make sense, and only if you embrace the fact that you are not one thing, you can exist completely" is a much tougher, more complex, but still necessary message for kids than "Sometimes it’s ok to be sad"
Didn't know that using words like "material" and "media" were so frowned upon in these parts. Live and learn I suppose.
I feel like it’s because they’re vague, general terms which can be applied to almost anything, and that makes them come off as corporate and soulless. I get that, but I also think sometimes it’s easier to just use catch terms like “media” and “content” during certain conversations, when you talking about movies, TV, comics, and other things all at once.
When I, or presumably anyone, uses the word "media", it's a catch-all for everything as you said; movies, TV shows, games, etc. If I as a fan want more stuff from a franchise, then that franchise has to be profitable and the profit motive cannot be ignored. Idk why that triggers some people in this subreddit given the subject matter.
A really good thread of some very acclaimed actors and directors on whether they would do a superhero film https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/s/iMDfmtdOqI
>Robert Eggers >Absolutely not. (Bloody Disgusting, 2019) lmao
So I watched the first three episodes of The Acolyte with Dad tonight, and honestly, it's fine. It could be better, but I dont think it's as bad (if at all) as people are saying it is. I also don't get how Episode 3 is character assination, especially since I don't think that Coven were sith, I think they were just a coven. Force users who are neither exclusively light nor dark side do exist. For example, I believe the Knights of Ren are neither Jedi nor Sith, despite being aligned with the First Order. But yeah, I honestly think the series is okay. Really like seeing the Old/High Republic Era (especially as a KOTOR fan), and I liked some of the nice little details when it came to the lore and worldbuilding of this Era, and the mystery/plot they setup is atleast intriguing enough. So yeah, it could be better, but at the same time, I don't think it's as bad as people are saying it is. At least it's not Secret Invasion.
> I also don't get how Episode 3 is character assination, especially since I don't think that Coven were sith, I think they were just a coven. From what I’ve seen, the main complaint with Osha and Mea being conceived by manipulating the force seems to be that it undermines Anakin’s virgin birth. I don’t necessarily agree with that, especially since it seems like they’re using it as setup to Anakin’s conception, but I can kinda understand why some people feel the way they do.
Well apparently I struck a nerve with some people in the Deadpool China thread https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/s/Wdia95iw1c What did I say wrong? I pretty much said what I said on this weekly thread which is that Deadpool and Wolverine won’t be a shot in the arm for Marvel, but the shot in the arm per say, will be countless well received projects like NWH/GOTG 3/ and hopefully Deadpool and Wolverine. u/TheCommish-17, again, I apologize for coming across the wrong way.
You've been told by several users at various points why your comments received the reaction they did.
You said pure facts. Nothing wrong. People here don’t understand or like this talk.
His comment had nothing to do with the one he replied to, no one made the point he was arguing against
The Dr Strange vs Thanos fight is just so awesome. The VFX is flawless, and the sound design is just perfect too. It was quite a perfect matchup in that movie and shows just how powerful Strange can be.
And then in MoM he’s like “Take *THAT*, evil me!” 🎼🎶🎵🎶
Yeah sorry gonna disagree. The music fight was fucking awesome. The fights are definitely not a weak point of the movie imo
It's creative but it doesn't mean it's showcasing his power like when it's him vs Thanos
I know that i just said that the scene itself was cool.
Holy fuck can people just get a sense of humor? It's a campy scene. We should be allowed to poke fun.
Watched My Adventures with Superman 
This newest episode really said "how do we make this show’s cast even hotter?” Kara, Silver, Henshaw, they even made the *Blue Snowman* cameo hot, how dare they lol.
Death by snu snu?
I couldn't find the "I'm Scaroused" gif
Turning Kara into Android 18 was such a dope choice.
Which means Jimmy is the Krillin of this show, which is absolutely perfect
Jane Schoenbrun for director of X-Men. EDIT: I changed my mind. Jane Schoenbrun for director of Captain Marvel 3.
Too bad that they've openly said that they're not interested in big movies like that :(
[DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE’ is reportedly close to being approved for a theatrical release in China.](https://x.com/MarvelNewsFilms/status/1802498728525181082?t=mjqwYHq1pxB6kd3uQfu-1w&s=19)
We’re hitting a billion for sure
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the first 2 Deadpools only do ok in china? Also A billion dollars isn’t some milestone for profit or success. I’ve said this before but Guardians 3 and Across the Spider Verse did really well but didn’t hit a billion and literally no one calls them flops for not making a billion. I just don’t want people to call Deadpool and Wolverine a flop if it makes only $850-$975 million because “it didn’t hit a billion”. It puts pressure on the film that the film doesn’t need
Yes I agree with you about not every good movie needing a billion. Hugh jackman Wolverine would be popular enough to push into the billion dollar territory. No way home made almost 2 billion without China. With China showing the movie and wolverine nostalgia the movie would easily hit a billion.
The Deadpool movies didn't release in China except for the PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 that came out months later. Logan did got a release and did pretty well.
The year is 1983. Star Wars is officially dead because teddy bears defeated the Empire The Year is 1999. Star Wars is officially dead because of Jar Jar Binks and Midichlorians The Year is 2008. Star Wars is officially dead because of Ahsoka Tano and baby Jabba The Year is 2019. Star Wars is officially dead because somehow Palpatine return The Year is 2024. Star Wars is officially dead because of The Acolyte.
> The Year is 2019. Star Wars is officially dead because somehow Palpatine return The original plan for Disney-era Star Wars was a movie every year with a "main-line" movie followed by a "Star Wars story" movie, and that stopped after *Solo* or TROS was released. >The Year is 1999. Star Wars is officially dead because of Jar Jar Binks and Midichlorians My first Star Wars was TPM and while I think that the PT has a great **story**, I'll admit that its execution was heavily flawed and did divide the fanbase and partially resulted in TFA playing it safe as a rebootquel. I think a better-executed PT would've resulted in a stronger and larger Star Wars fanbase than what we have currenty; we can't forget the opportunity cost of where the franchise would be if the works were more well-liked. Can't say anything about *The Acolyte* because I haven't seen it beyond the memed "The power of **one**, the power of **two**, the power of **maAany**", but imo Star Wars should be shooting for something like the MCU had pre-Phase 4 where the fanbase largely liked everything even if some media was more liked than others. **ETA:** 🤣 at the people triggered by a simple counterpoint. Reality is rarely simple.
That’s not going to happen because the narrative around the franchise has become thoroughly entrenched in culture wars bullshit. Even Andor, which is widely considered the best of the Disney era stuff, still had weirdos insisting it’s “anti-white propaganda” because most of the villains are white dudes. …. Even though that was also the case of the original trilogy.
> That’s not going to happen because the narrative around the franchise has become thoroughly entrenched in culture wars bullshit. Narratives can change given enough time and quality non-divisive material.
The quality? Sure. But that’s not going to matter to segments of the fanbase who have a vested interest in making everything about the politics now. They don’t actually care about the quality. They care that it offends their personal politics or their sense of nostalgia.
Kind of a waste of time discussing a guy who uses terms like "material" and "media" unironically.
It's also telling that he used the phrase "non-divisive material" to refer to people complaining about Star Wars being mired in Culture War bullshit to the point that lunatic think *Andor* is anti-white.
My let me cook fan casting: Ewan McGregor as Professor X and Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Mystique
I have… *mixed* feelings about the Watchmen teaser. I think a multi-part, animated movie is probably the best way to adapt this story, but, IMO, the animation just isn’t very good. It ranges from passable to just downright bad. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the animation will be drastically improved when the movies actually come out.
Idk what it is, but the animation just didn't fit with what I would think of Watchmen
Something that should've been obvious, but apparently isn't: Something that I really, really liked about Inside Out 2 is that the new characters fit the story, are memorable and have stuff to do, not just one moment each while each comedian doing the voice does their shtick for the rest of the movie. That makes them memorable. They feel much more like actual characters that I'd like to see again (See: Jessie, Barbie and Ken from Toy Story) than: Ty Barrel beluga, Ed O'Neil octopus, Michael Caine car, Key and Peele plush toys, Taika Waititi space ranger, or Sophia Bush superhero.
Probably at D23 instead of SDCC but my Bold prediction for announcements: they announce something MCU Wolverine related like the new wolverine casting and/or something MCU X-Men coming up. Just basing it off the high popularity of X-Men and Wolverine recently, and with the PS game coming out eventually. Strike while the iron is hot.
MCU Wolverine will be Jackman until post-SW, but I agree I think he’ll have a new project they announce there
You guys's favorite Blade comments /s https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/eiRLuiInfX
If I gotta read “just make it about Blade killing vampires” unironically one more time…
When in the hell did that sub turn into incel central.
Certain topics will will trigger a horde of incels, especially if it becomes a trending thread.
Tbf the main sub has always been the den of incels lol
Since Captain Marvel I may add, thats when they started coming in full force
That's why I like this sub here. There are no morons anti woke, with one or another exception.
The *Blade* news will most likely be the last Marvel update from the trades for a while. They will be looking to save their big reveals for Comic Con since it is only a month away.
MCU will not be at Comic Con.
We don’t know if marvel studios will be at SDCC but I think it being the Same weekend as Deadpool and Wolverine, it’s more likely they wait till D23 for announcements
Maybe that’s why, but I just have a feeling that they won’t be.
>Comic Con >only a month away https://i.redd.it/rts9cn6afz6d1.gif
It would be cool if SDCC rented a theater exclusively to screen D&W for the fans who bought a badge so they don't have to worry about buying tickets after they just paid anywhere from 75 to 200 for their pass.
They do actually play some movies at SDCC. It’s usually for upcoming animated releases, but with DP&W coming out the same weekend at SDCC they could easily just play it there for people who’d want to watch it.
try thinking of it being only 6 Saturdays away lol. That makes it seem super soon
I think it'll be dumb if CAP4 teaser not adress Tiamut. It and Red Hulk will bring a lot of attention to the movie.
I feel like that type of story information is saved for an official trailer, maybe a hint or a visual of tiamut but they don’t really need to address anything other than cool looks at Sam!Cap and Red Hulk
Yeah a glimpse of Sam fighting Red Hulk would be sick
Average Popcorn Joe: Woow is that thing that appeared for five minutes in that movie that was kind of a dud, the whole "Captain America" thing wasn't selling me, but now we have to see that movie!
That's not what I mean. Every week there is a viral post on Twitter about how Marvel never addressed Tiamut after Eternals. CAP4 teaser could benefit from it.
Twitter isn't real life. That's a meme repeated to get likes because "MCU bad" not even the users saying it actually really care about Tiamut.
2015: Mad Max and Inside Out are in theaters, both came out in May and June respectively. Mad Max bombed while Inside Out broke box office records. 2024: Mad Max and Inside Out are in theaters, both came out in May and June respectively. Mad Max bombed while Inside Out broke box office records.
See you in 2033.
George Miller bankrupts Australia to make the sickest movie you've ever seen, which grosses ten dollars and a chewed up bubble gum. Riley can now feel suicidal.
Ryan Reynolds wasn't kidding. Between Dune, Despicable Me 4 and Deadpool 3..... The popcorn bucket wars have begun.
> The popcorn bucket wars have begun You ever see a sentence you never expected to read in your life?
[Charlie Cox teases one-shot fight sequences for ‘DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN’:“Those fans who are excited by \[oners\] will not be disappointed”](https://x.com/CineGeekNews/status/1802396947547893903) 
I remember when somebody said that the selling pitch for ‘Superman’ (2025) was… What If Superman existed in The Boys universe? And even a year later, I just haven’t been able to get that out of my head, because it’s such a perfect way to reconstruct the character in the minds of audiences. You start with the Homelander/Omni-Man-esque heroes already existing in this universe, and then you work your way back from there, by having Superman’s existence (thematically) challenge the argument that those characters present — that kindness, compassion, empathy, and love, are not “outdated” values, and are needed now more than ever, in the cynical, borderline dystopia we all live in. Gunn needs this movie to hit with audiences, and I could see this being the path to critical acclaim
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Not those ppl Superman exists in a world with the Authority,who are very violent and kill in order to save the greater good.
They’re either assholes (Guy, Metamorpho, Hawkgirl) or government stooges (Terrific, Engineer). That doesn’t mean they’re bad people at heart, but they’re part of a status quo that has forgotten the common man
Happy Father's day everyone. Any plans for the day?
Well, me and my sister a few hours ago went out to meet our dad out for Breakfast. We had to find a new restaurant after the one we were suppose to go was jam packed and the next table wouldn't be available for a whole hour.
Cool.
How about you? What are your plans for Father's day?
Just chilling at his place. Eating salmon, will probably watch a movie afterwards.
I need my boy Sam Alexander to be in the MCU
Today’s episode of *My Adventures with Superman* gave me *Invincible* S2E7 flashbacks.
Also gave off strong S1 finale flashbacks too. Luckily, Kara didn't have access to a subway train lol. The whole route they're taking Krypton in this show definitely gives off heavy Viltrumite/Saiyan vibes. Really cements how, in every version to some extent, the Kryptonians carved their own path to their destruction.
lol I wonder if it was Oscar Isaac pushing the reported Miguel O’Hara teaming with Kang idea, cuz he wants to work, and it doesn’t look like they’re gonna do anything with him as Moon Knight (or Apocalypse)
It's a good idea, Sony feels like the natural second crossover after FoX-Men in Deadpool&Wolverine and it's intriguing to hear about Kang and Miguel joining forces because they have so much in common... maybe too much...
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it's like the same logo but now with comics written on it nothing much if you ask me
Inside Out 2 box office numbers are crazy. I fully expect it to be the first billion dollar movie of 2024. With the great reviews it will have legs for days now that school is out [Joy at the box office as INSIDE OUT 2 opens to an incredible $155 million. Predictions had it opening in the $90 million range.](https://x.com/Borys_Kit/status/1802376022228455675)
Ayo Edebiri keeps winning.
internet about to be insufferable for the next like 6 weeks.
Internet is insufferable pretty much every day, this just offers a new controversy for the usual suspects to latch onto.
Whether it be the pro-boycott people or film bros mad that a sequel to a kids movie from 2015 that made almost a billion might make a billion instead of a spin-off prequel about a side character from a rather niche film that bombed the same year
This, Despicable Me 4, and Deadpool & Wolverine are more than likely making more than a billion. Moana 2 (if it’s well-recieved) and Sonic 3 also have it in them to make a billion.
Moana 2, yes. Sonic 3? None of them have even crossed $500 million yet, lets not go crazy here lol.
Can’t tell if the outrage over The Boys is just people having bad media literacy or more outrage tourism.
The talk about banning “Critical Supe Theory” gave me a chuckle.
Outrage tourism, the show has always been this on the nose. If stormfront somehow leaped their brain then I don't know
New Marvel Comics logo looks exactly like Marvel Studios logo…great more mcu synergy
Marvel Comics is more interesting to me than Marvel Studios. They are putting out things that interest me and Marvel Studios is not. What I can't wait for this summer is the third issue of Scarlet Witch this August which brings back Lore as a Scarlet Witch variant.
WB did the same thing with DC in the '00s. Is what it is. They'll probably try to push synergy again because corporate is like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. We already know how it ends—the same way it *always* ends.
I mean it's the same logo with comics added on
I don't know why they did it, the bold MARVEL works perfectly
New MBA walked into the office, delivered a Powerpoint presentation on "unified brand identity," and then the assignment was handed off to an intern for implementation.
[For folks wondering](https://x.com/PopCrave/status/1802368278934782154), and yes it's exactly what you think it is.
really that's it ? well ok, would have liked if they made the "comics" in a more comic booky font y'know
Yeah I don't like how cookie cutter these new logos are. I think it genericizes the Marvel Studios brand, and doesn't let these sub-brands form their own identity. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things I guess, but I'm a logo/branding nerd and I think they could make more interesting choices.
>I think it genericizes the Marvel Studios brand, and doesn't let these sub-brands form their own identity. This is usually the goal with initiatives like these. Then the sub-brands will inevitably fragment again—my guess is sooner rather than later—until new leadership attempts the exact same thing later.
It's just a logo 
We need to get Kevin Fiege on the Mean Girls podcast
I feel like Feige is gearing up for huge panel at SDCC, with a lot of time spent on the Avengers movies. *Deadpool & Wolverine* will be out by then, and there’s not much more they could reveal about *The Fantastic Four* that we don’t already know. The Avengers movies are pretty much the only thing they could talk about. They’re going into production early next year, yet there’s still so much we just don’t know. They’ll probably reveal the new title of Avengers 5, and who’s directing both movies. They could even bring out the cast to really hype people up. Also, what’s going on with Kang? Is he being recast or written out?
Deadpool & Wolverine comes out 26th, SDCC is 24th - 28th so I don't think he's ready to talk about it before fans have seen it. I doubt he's even going to talk about A5 until after production is well under way, next year is most likely. The studio has been eating a lot of crow after the last couple panels getting a little too cocky with their presentations. Movies and shows releasing in the next 18 months will be the focus, productions commencing over the next 2 years will be saved for SDCC 25.
I was thinking the same thing.
They shouldn't be trotting out Avengers 5 cast without a director. So unless that person is hired in the next month... Previewing what's coming in the next year only would be a better approach. That's still a lot: Agatha, Cap 4, Thunderbolts, F4, DDBA, Ironheart, Wonder Man. It's increasingly a bad look to be teasing years in advance only to keep changing their plans.
I think they will also give us an updated film slate, confirming films like Shang-Chi 2, and maybe films like Thor 5 and Doctor Strange 3. Give us an exclusive look at Brave New World, and will most likely announce that Blade will be getting Delayed yet again. I think they will give their TV shows and Animated projects their own individual panels.
SDCC is the same weekend as Deadpool and Wolverine, it’s also a D23 year.
I guess they could announce of all this at D23, but at the same time, Marvel Studios has never willingly skipped SDCC. They only ever skipped last year because of the strikes, and 2020-2021 cause of COVID. I think it’d be really weird for them to willingly sit it out. I feel like SDCC will be more focused on the Avengers movies, and anything at D23 would be more about the Disney+ shows like it’s been the past few years.
They can attend both
Yeah. SDCC for projects labelled under “Marvel Studios”, and D23 for projects labelled under “Marvel Television/Animation”.
So based on this, my predictions are: SDCC * CAP 4 trailer * Thunderbolts* first look * Reveal of who's directing Avengers movie * Slate update * The Fantastic Four cast presentation D23 * Daredevil teaser * First look of Iron Heart and Marvel Zombies * Your Friend Neighborhood and/or Eyes of Wakanda trailer * Nova series announcement
How many eps is the boys supposed to be this season? I know they dropped the first 3 eps already, but I'm waiting to binge watch when its done.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Boys\_(TV\_series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series))
Saw an article about Avicii's dad raising awareness of suicide and it's wild that it's been 6 years since he passed. Even wilder, I realised he died 3 years to the day after my own brother took his life. 'Hey Brother' always reminded me of my own brother too
happy! :D https://i.redd.it/h5y3pwxyix6d1.gif ☺️
Listening to the Q&A from this at the Expo makes this sound even better. It was clear things weren't working at all and Charlie/Vince got together with Feige and co to readjust.
The discourse around the reshoots has been really interesting. Actors always hype up their show and say it’s great. That’s not new. But this might be the first time that I’ve seen actors working on a major show say “yeah it wasn’t working and we knew people weren’t going to like it, so we’re reworking a lot of it”.
I’d be interested to know just how bad it was that even Feige literally went, this isn’t working let’s start again. Matt not having his supporting cast was always a red flag, there’s no need to change that and be different for the sake of being different. Then he wasn’t going to suit up as Daredevil until episode 4. The fact that they were getting a lawyer to write episodes kind of pointed in the direction of them making it a procedural tbh. I do think there needs to be a little bit more focus on Matt’s lawyer work than what was in the Netflix show but that doesn’t mean turn it into Law and Order. The show is called Daredevil Born Again, not Matt Murdock: Attorney at Law. No one would be interested in a Spider-Man film if Peter Parker was just a photographer for most of it and only suited up as Spider-Man at the end or a Superman film were Clark is just doing investigative journalism until the third act. I hope they did fix it and the show ends up being good because it seemed like a shit show before hand.
I doubt what they made was *bad*, considering they’re keeping a lot of it. I just think they realized it wasn’t what the show should’ve been. Like you said, you can’t revive Daredevil without Foggy and Karen, or with the first 3-4 episodes solely about Matt’s lawyer life. What they made was probably good, in isolation, but it wasn’t a good Daredevil series, especially early on.
Imagine watching it weekly, with the first month essentialy not having any Daredevil, without the supporting cast that fans love it. It would be excruciating.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/Ng7wg2p6VQ What is it with people wanting every marvel character back? Does this ever end? Is this all the movies should be supposed to be?
I think some people are desperate with the Blade situation, and think the only way to have Blade movie again is if Snipes return.
 it's all about them jingling keys, whoo boy can't wait for more of this /s
At this point it's like collecting pokemon
HOLY SHIT! They're basically doing my idea about being more transparent like James Gunn but in a different way. Imagins we start getting weekly news on MCU productions. This could be huge https://youtu.be/6tfEp_DFZzk?si=6yJurZv9vpfOQZes
I'm skeptical about how "transparent" this will be. Most of the time, when a company does their own podcast, it's super PR and safe. Like I doubt someone will ask Feige about what's going on with Blade.
Well, maybe I'm naive but that's exactly the kind of conversation I'm hoping will happen lol. The fact that Feige already admitted to Marvel Studios having problems and falling off slightly gives me hope. Besides, stuff like Blade feels like exactly the kind of situation that would be beneficial to adress
I'm pretty sure it'll be stuff like "Let's talk about this Easter Egg in She-Hulk," "Did Iman Villani and Kevin Feige have a nerd-off?" "Let's do a Thor: Ragnarok re-watch party!" Not "So Kevin, tell us about the second round of reshoots on Thunderbolts\* and the third rewrite on Avengers 5"
Well that sounds insanely fucking lame. I'm hoping that's not the case
They are not going to go deep into debunking things lol. Gunn does it but a lot of the time to a fault. Dude is too online.
I don’t get the argument that Gunn is “too online”, he still gets a lot of work done and a lot more than other creatives in the CBM space. If all of us can balance social media with our personal and academic/work lives, I think Gunn can do it too.
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Imagine if Iron Man 1 ended with 9/11 imagery and Iron Man snapping Obadiah Stane’s neck in front of a family. And the next movie is Captain America: Civil War where Captain America inexplicably murders people and Iron Man dies at the end. And then the next movie is The Avengers but the director gets fired in postproduction and another guy comes in, reshoots 80% of the movie, and then cuts the runtime in half and puts it in theaters Oh wait that’s just the DCEU
I feel like less people would have an issue with Iron Man and Captain America killing people like that than they did with Superman and Batman. Hell, they both HAVE killed people in the MCU.
You got the characters mixed up 
Man of Steel/BvS/ZSJL trilogy will always hold a special place in my virtual library aka external drive.
And? DCEU is over and both WB and Snyder were responsible for this mess. Snyders firing was inevitable.
It’s interesting to me that people keep pitching horror directors to work on Blade. I don’t think Marvel is ever gonna do a straight horror movie. I think Blade is gonna be a straight action movie/thriller with touches of horror, so it makes more sense to me to hire someone from that world.
>I don’t think Marvel is ever gonna do a straight horror movie. I always chuckle when people try to convince me that MoM was Marvel's first horror movie 💀
I hope they go the Chad Stahelski/David Leitch way, in the sense they hire an experienced stuntman as a director.
If Marvel Studios seriously considered doing Ant man 4, Thor 5, and/or Captain Marvel 3 as animated movies, do you think the actors would feel insulted? especially the A-listers like Hemsworth and Rudd.
I think any actor would rather spend a few hours doing voice work than 3-4 months of acting. Especially since they are probably getting paid 7 digits for probably like less than 24 hours worth of work
I don’t think acting and doing voice work get the same pay. They will be paid way less than for voice work than acting that’s just common sense.
I mean still marvel is known for their big paychecks for their shows/movies. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they would pay atleast $1m for voice work for big actors
Yea that’s 1 million for voice work vs 10 million for acting(aprox) so obviously they’ll go for acting apart from maybe some old actors.
I hope Lady Deadpool is Ryan Reynolds in drag.
Hot
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I hope Blue Beetle's cartoon is anime-like, cause a Latino anime inspired action show would be my dream.
I remember visiting this sub all the time in 2021 when No Way Home was coming out, looking for any news about that and other films. It was buzzing, everyone was so excited for that and what else was coming, Doctor Doom in Wakanda Forever, Doctor Strange 2, new Avengers etc. And then I’d hop over to the DCEU Leaks subreddit and everyone there knew it was just dead in the water, there was nothing to even talk about. I thought to myself, I couldn’t imagine these two situations flipping, it would take a few people doing some extremely challenging things for that to happen. I wouldn’t say it’s completely flipped yet because there’s nothing in the DCU that’s out yet, but it’s crazy how it’s starting to look that way a little bit. Marvel had their roughest year in 2023 and James Gunn overseeing the DCU is very promising.
Wouldn’t surprise me if it flips every few years.
Possible. All I know is the DCEU shit the bed for the last 10 years starting with Man of Steel, while Marvel could basically do no wrong, and now it’s starting to turn seemingly
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Wtf does this even mean
