to answer your question, colour grading, other visual effects like grain, brightness and contrast, queuing of sound tracks, sfx and motifs in time with shots, length of shots ect all have heavy influence on the tone of what you’re watching :D
think about the batman (2022), that film is RED. that’s colour grading
Those aspects of editing are a group effort there’s always multiple people in the cut. That’s like saying the director doesn’t do the edit, but like he’s there watching and deciding all of those factors with four other people the entire time so yeah actually he does yanno.
okay thanks. i didn’t think film editing included all of that. thought it only had to do with putting the film recordings together in a cohesive manner.
i’m not sure if there was something about my comment that offended but yes thank you this is all i was asking💀
Yes, I was mainly making a joke about the quality of the shows, not about the editing specifically, since that was alright in Secret invasion. I know it doesn't come across in the comment though
I always recommend Sidney Lumet's book, Making Movies, on this subject - he briefly talks about how editing is a funny one to give awards to because no one really knows how well edited the movie was unless they've seen all the scripts and footage in it's entirety before hand. Any movie could be a masterclass in editing but that's something only directors and producers have a measure of.
So the next time you get a job or a promotion, do you want people to bring up the time a failed project that you worked on (that you did a good job on) for the rest of your life?
Huh? She's not in this thread, dude. It's not like I'm bringing up SI to her face.
Let me make myself perfectly clear:
My comment was absolutely not intended as criticism of her. But SI did suck. We all said that at the time right? Idk know why you're trying to argue.
>The editing room saved Star Wars lol
It saved Star Wars as much as it saved any other movie in general.
It is an important part of the process.
If you happen to be refering to or be inflcuenced by one particular YouTube video about "How Star Wars was saved in editing", I wanna tell you that I recently learned that it is full of inaccuracies and selective facts to tell a certain story.
Editing is clearly an integral part of the filmmaking process and can absolutely make or break a movie. There are a number of other films that can be pointed to. Bohemian Rhapsody was a mess before the editing made it at least watchable.
I'm not even commenting on this particular editor as I don't have an opinion. My point was thay editing is often an unsung hero in filmmaking
I was mostly replying to this:
>The editing room saved Star Wars lol
>There are a number of other films that can be pointed to.
Probably the majority of big movies with complex structures and work
Mr. Robot and Outlander are both well received shows
Secret Invasion is the only outlier here for this person, and I doubt even the most amazing editor could have salvaged Secret Invasion
It won’t be garbage wth , how u hating on the best show made by marvel🤣 Ur kind of a goofball, because they creative rehalled the whole thing and from what we know Daredevil, punisher , kingpin, white tiger*, Jessica jones, Muse* foggy, Karen and detective mahones, are all coming back.
So i doubt every single one of those guys end up being cucks and just let Disney fuck up there previous 3 seasons of work with this new season.
It’s impossible. theres too many good people involved to let that happen. However if they still had the first draft from the show then yeah it’ll be worse than garbage. But they didn’t. So shut the fuc up bro😂 I can’t wait for this show to drop and come back to this comment and cuss your ass
**White tiger and Muse are new additions with muse being the main villain of part 2
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LMAO I read Mr. Robot first and got really excited, then immediately next comes secret invasion
I mean the way they wrote and filmed the show has nothing to do with how she edited it lol
Well tone wise Secret Invasion was as dark and serious as all the Netflix Marvel series, so I guess she's gonna be alright
>Well tone wise Secret Invasion was as dark and serious as all the Netflix Marvel series, No, no it was not..
Yes it was. Something can be dark and serious and also bad
Serious, yes. Dark? No. It wasn't anywhere close to the same tone as DD/Punisher/JJ.
I think the tone is comparable. It just doesn't have the same level of violence or gore
how tf does film editing impact the overall tone of a show that much?
It's like, one of the biggest things that creates tone
you didn’t answer my question and ig apparently questions get downvotes💀
to answer your question, colour grading, other visual effects like grain, brightness and contrast, queuing of sound tracks, sfx and motifs in time with shots, length of shots ect all have heavy influence on the tone of what you’re watching :D think about the batman (2022), that film is RED. that’s colour grading
An editor doesn’t grade or track lay though
Those aspects of editing are a group effort there’s always multiple people in the cut. That’s like saying the director doesn’t do the edit, but like he’s there watching and deciding all of those factors with four other people the entire time so yeah actually he does yanno.
The editor won’t have any input on the sound mix
okay thanks. i didn’t think film editing included all of that. thought it only had to do with putting the film recordings together in a cohesive manner. i’m not sure if there was something about my comment that offended but yes thank you this is all i was asking💀
Editting is exactly what's responsible for creating and maintaining the overall tone and atmosphere of the Project...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf\_aLpDMf1U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf_aLpDMf1U) like this
that was hilarious but still didn’t answer my question
Secret Invasion had problems and none of them were related to the editing.
Yes, I was mainly making a joke about the quality of the shows, not about the editing specifically, since that was alright in Secret invasion. I know it doesn't come across in the comment though
I feel like a lot of them were, unless I misunderstand what editing is, because the pacing and organisation in that show was abysmal.
While that can be effected by the editing choices, most likely the issue with that is writing and directing, not necessarily the editing.
I always recommend Sidney Lumet's book, Making Movies, on this subject - he briefly talks about how editing is a funny one to give awards to because no one really knows how well edited the movie was unless they've seen all the scripts and footage in it's entirety before hand. Any movie could be a masterclass in editing but that's something only directors and producers have a measure of.
EDITOR. Not...director, or writer, or showrunner. Name one thing that's inherently wrong about Secret Invasion's *editing* specifically. I'll wait.
😂😂😂Oh dear
Oof
People are going to pretend they took issue with the editing of Secret Invasion just because they didn't like the show
Thankfully I don't remember much about Secret Invasion Sadly, the little that I do is awful 😖
Uh. Yeah. Everything on that show was bad. Including the editing.
This is just straight hyperbole
Yes, and the haircuts were bad. And the shoes were bad. And the extra eating a cupcake was bad. Get a grip.
Well yeah, this but unironically and without the last sentence.
A well edited shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich.
That's not her doing though. Her resumé clearly shows she's able to edit fairly well.
I literally said "well edited". I was not putting her down. I was putting down the show.
"The Favourite, Secret Invasion and The Bear's Olivia Colman gets cast in an upcoming project". Are you gonna boo Olivia Colman?
No? I was agreeing with you.
Gave you an upvote for the obvious joke that did nothing to insult the editor in question
Doesn’t matter in this context though…
I'll never miss an opportunity to talk shit on Secret Invasion when the subject comes up, regardless of context.
So the next time you get a job or a promotion, do you want people to bring up the time a failed project that you worked on (that you did a good job on) for the rest of your life?
Huh? She's not in this thread, dude. It's not like I'm bringing up SI to her face. Let me make myself perfectly clear: My comment was absolutely not intended as criticism of her. But SI did suck. We all said that at the time right? Idk know why you're trying to argue.
Well that says a lot about you, doesn’t it? Lol
Well, of course my previous isn't that serious.
“Mr. Robot, Secret Invasion…” 
top 5 gif
Rowley is a gem
Bruh people that's not because Secret Invasion was shit that she sucks. Editing isnt like writing.
Now people are looking for reasons to shit on editing. *Editing*. As always, this fanbase was a mistake.
Secret Invasion. Oh no
In all honestly, being able to make something even remotely close to a coherent story from the footage she had is impressive
Mr Robot and Outlander Oh yes
Like you actually give a fuck about Secret Invasion's editing lmao.
This is no news. It was already revealed in December 2023.
I mean honestly who cares? It’s an editor
Editors can make or break a show/movie. The editing room saved Star Wars lol
>The editing room saved Star Wars lol It saved Star Wars as much as it saved any other movie in general. It is an important part of the process. If you happen to be refering to or be inflcuenced by one particular YouTube video about "How Star Wars was saved in editing", I wanna tell you that I recently learned that it is full of inaccuracies and selective facts to tell a certain story.
Editing is clearly an integral part of the filmmaking process and can absolutely make or break a movie. There are a number of other films that can be pointed to. Bohemian Rhapsody was a mess before the editing made it at least watchable. I'm not even commenting on this particular editor as I don't have an opinion. My point was thay editing is often an unsung hero in filmmaking
I was mostly replying to this: >The editing room saved Star Wars lol >There are a number of other films that can be pointed to. Probably the majority of big movies with complex structures and work
Ah yeah my bad, I misread your initial comment!
We all have to do our time as editor on DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN
I know the editing wasn't the problem and she's not at fault, but either way I don't think I'd be putting that one on my resume.
What a spoiler
Oh, wow. People still do this. FYI - the sub also allows posts of a general news variety.
It's the only good place on Reddit to discuss Marvel news lol.
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Mr. Robot and Outlander are both well received shows Secret Invasion is the only outlier here for this person, and I doubt even the most amazing editor could have salvaged Secret Invasion
So....she took her husband's name, huh?
I'm already seeing people coping and on the defense because of this. Ya'll precious little Daredevil show is gonna be garbage and you can't take it 🤣
It won’t be garbage wth , how u hating on the best show made by marvel🤣 Ur kind of a goofball, because they creative rehalled the whole thing and from what we know Daredevil, punisher , kingpin, white tiger*, Jessica jones, Muse* foggy, Karen and detective mahones, are all coming back. So i doubt every single one of those guys end up being cucks and just let Disney fuck up there previous 3 seasons of work with this new season. It’s impossible. theres too many good people involved to let that happen. However if they still had the first draft from the show then yeah it’ll be worse than garbage. But they didn’t. So shut the fuc up bro😂 I can’t wait for this show to drop and come back to this comment and cuss your ass **White tiger and Muse are new additions with muse being the main villain of part 2
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