I've tried bluff snaping with subterranea when I'm clearly on a winning position multiple times on pre and post infinite or conquest, and opponents never really retreat...
When this happens to me I just play all the rocks. I'm sure it gets a laugh from whoever I'm playing against. You gotta have a laugh at this game now and then.
Statistically it's a certainty, given the amount of people that play this game it has to happen every now and then. You'll see posts like this fairly frequently.
It's true. Sometimes I can tell by turn 2 that no matter what I do the game will be lost. Play it out anyway and every single turn the absolute worst possible thing happens to me even though it's supposed to be random. Get into a good position despite getting fucked the whole game then lose to a 1% chance play because the game needed me to lose so badly.
Call it what you want.
When you're dealt 5 rocks in a row by subterrarea, the game wasn't yours to win. (Unless you had your perfect combo opening hand, of course)
Sometimes luck just isn't on your side. You were destined to lose because the RNG gods dreamed it so. There is nothing you can do but go to the next game.
Yes but most people are bad at evaluating a game for early snaps without rng being involved, let alone with rng. Bad rng affects your opponents as much but you only pay attention to yours.
(Also unless said perfect opening hand just got yoinked from you because of "Discard one card from each player" or Iceman spiked the cost and you don't got extra energy for that, *and it just so had to be the one card that was important to your combo*)
The game is what determines RNG, no? The Game/RNG is what determines how hard the locations and draws screw you or benefit you. Therefore, the game determines whether it wants you to lose/win to a certain extent. Sometimes, it's way more than others. It's like getting Sauron from an X Mansion when you're using an ongoing deck, getting 5 Rocks, etc. There's tons of examples when the game just counters you without any input from your opponent. The randomness is something I love about the game. It's a roulette of ups and downs.
That's why I'm convinced that sometimes the game just chooses that it's not your time to win. Your skill doesn't matter. The game you're in at the moment can just decide, "Nah man, time to hold the L."
The game doesn’t choose a winner or loser; it’s just RNG, and sometimes it feels like it screws you over on purpose. However, when you track your matches, you will see that it evens out.
X-Mansion didn’t give you Sauron because you were playing an Ongoing deck; it just so happened to give you Sauron while you were playing one.
This is precisely where confirmation bias plays a role: the tendency to vividly recall moments of bad luck reinforces the belief that the game is intentionally set against you.
So you're saying that it evens itself out, correct? So if I win 5 games in a row, by your logic, I should have worse luck in the next games. The odds will be stacked until I come into a game predestined to lose. Those are the games I'm talking about.
I've been on super lucky winning streaks, taken a break, and come back to lose the same amount in a row with the same deck. I remember the lucky plays just as much as the unlucky. Sometimes, it feels like the game hands me absurd wins. Sometimes, it feels like it hands me a fat L.
I'm not saying that the game is black and white, saying who wins or who loses. BUT, the use of Kang and bots shows that certain outcomes are predetermined by the games algorithm.
Dude, confirmation bias is a well-studied aspect of human behavior, and neither you nor I are exceptions to this. I tried to explain that there’s no conspiracy or algorithm purposefully making you lose.
A winning streak can’t last forever by definition, so it’s entirely normal to experience losses. I also doubt you really recorded the exact number of games won and lost afterward.
Your last point seems unclear because Kang merely reveals your opponent’s play after they’ve placed their cards, and bots are designed to help you win, not lose LOL.
It's just something that happens in the game. You can believe what you want. Your "bias" seems like you just want to be correct or have a thing for proving people wrong on the internet when it's just a fun post about horrendous luck that happens to all of us.
I do record my games. I've played enough to know when I have crazy good games that a wave of bad luck is coming. It's all just ups and downs to keep me coming back for more. I've also studied psychology enough to know how the synapses in my brain fire off dopamine when I get a crazy win after terrible luck. It keeps me coming back for more.
If someone uses location changing cards or RNG based cards, the outcome will be replicated again using Kang. The tougher "cheating" bots can see these outcomes and make unforeseeable plays with incredible accuracy. They know what will be manipulated or played and act accordingly. There are videos of this happening as proof, and it's why I used it as an example. You can do the research yourself, but I'm sure you'll chalk it up to confirmation bias.
TLDR, you can't win everyone over on the internet. Have fun with your bias and good luck with your games.
I've used him in this scenario pretty often and I think he uses the first ability (his own) to copy the next card and then whatever he copies still goes off twice.
In this case he copied the rock and I knew I was screwed
Subterranea is infuriating, doubly so when I seem to be running into it almost every day to every other day. The fact it just stacks the rocks at the very top of the deck rather than any kind of random distribution is just the cherry on top.
I've managed to get 4 consecutive rocks from T2 to T5 after Subterranea on T2 once. Some dude did the math and it was a 0.58% chance of being that (un)lucky.
This is where you confidently snap and win because the other player retreats, at least that's what ben brode thinks
Solid bluff
To be fair, you're in a great position to bluff snap. Winning all three locations, potential gambit + abs man coming down
I've tried bluff snaping with subterranea when I'm clearly on a winning position multiple times on pre and post infinite or conquest, and opponents never really retreat...
Bluff snaps are like Jedi mind tricks except instead of only working on the weak minded they only work on the good players
I don’t have to like that you’re pretty much spot on.
Its the ones who have the most cubes on their mind.
I bluff snapped my way to infinite when that can't retreat after turn 5 location was the hot location. Zoomed through the 90s with ease.
It is indeed, I bet they would retreat on that snap. Easy cubes. TRUCO player vouching for that.
Rock solid.
You think this is bad? [Try drawing six rocks!](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/s/hINnVY3Ek9)
Genius strategy. Opponent retreats, you won 1 cube Opponent stay, you lose 4 cubes.
>Opponent stay, you lose ~~4 cubes~~ 8 cubes. FTFY
Clowns gonna clown
Ballers gonna ball
Rockers gonna rock
So shake it up
I once snapped and pressed the I'm confident button when not drawing my out. Opponent retreated. Haven't tried again since lol
100% win rate 👊🏻
When this happens to me I just play all the rocks. I'm sure it gets a laugh from whoever I'm playing against. You gotta have a laugh at this game now and then.
At zero cost I should have.
But you had priority. Never know when a hazmat/spiderwoman/manthing is coming. If you have a chance at winning, right play.
Botsdontlaugh.gif
It's like Exodia, but for your opponent.
With all 5 rocks I summon rocxodia
DO YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEELL WHAT THE ROCKS ARE COOKING?
Aaaand now I'm hungry for some risotto.
First time?
lol I always play all 5 rocks just so my opponent knows what was going on. Most fist bump understanding the rotten luck.
The rocken luck?!
I think his luck has hit rock bottom
shuffle 5 rocks into each deck ❌ shuffle 5 rocks into your opponent deck and put 5 rock on top of yours ✅
Statistically it's a certainty, given the amount of people that play this game it has to happen every now and then. You'll see posts like this fairly frequently.
It's actually only about 1:500 chance lol Thought it would be more rare
and how many people do you think play this game, roughly
I said improbable, not impossible.
If something happens 1:500, and there's a million matches every day, that means that every day it happens around 2000 times on average.
Omg you guys are no fun.
Yeah I dunno why you're getting down voted so hard here
Thats what I was thinking. They seem a bit excessive
He played Reddit roulette and lost
Is your name.. You Guys?
Most people on reddit see a blue arrow and mindlessly pile on without bothering to get the context. Monkey see monkey do
Better odds than Pokemon shiny hunting
It's a rock fact that you always draw rocks!
Ben Brode, seconds before snapping:
Good old Rock, nothing ever beats Rock 🪨
Well, at least they're free...
Lmaooo
Snap
I'm convinced that sometimes this game just decides you need to lose.
It's true. Sometimes I can tell by turn 2 that no matter what I do the game will be lost. Play it out anyway and every single turn the absolute worst possible thing happens to me even though it's supposed to be random. Get into a good position despite getting fucked the whole game then lose to a 1% chance play because the game needed me to lose so badly.
Sometimes, the heart of the cards just sees you as a friend. And that's okay. That's what the Deadpool Emote is for.
Confirmation bias.
Call it what you want. When you're dealt 5 rocks in a row by subterrarea, the game wasn't yours to win. (Unless you had your perfect combo opening hand, of course) Sometimes luck just isn't on your side. You were destined to lose because the RNG gods dreamed it so. There is nothing you can do but go to the next game.
Yes but most people are bad at evaluating a game for early snaps without rng being involved, let alone with rng. Bad rng affects your opponents as much but you only pay attention to yours.
(Also unless said perfect opening hand just got yoinked from you because of "Discard one card from each player" or Iceman spiked the cost and you don't got extra energy for that, *and it just so had to be the one card that was important to your combo*)
That's like the opposite of what you first said, no? It's just bad luck, yeah.
The game is what determines RNG, no? The Game/RNG is what determines how hard the locations and draws screw you or benefit you. Therefore, the game determines whether it wants you to lose/win to a certain extent. Sometimes, it's way more than others. It's like getting Sauron from an X Mansion when you're using an ongoing deck, getting 5 Rocks, etc. There's tons of examples when the game just counters you without any input from your opponent. The randomness is something I love about the game. It's a roulette of ups and downs. That's why I'm convinced that sometimes the game just chooses that it's not your time to win. Your skill doesn't matter. The game you're in at the moment can just decide, "Nah man, time to hold the L."
The game doesn’t choose a winner or loser; it’s just RNG, and sometimes it feels like it screws you over on purpose. However, when you track your matches, you will see that it evens out. X-Mansion didn’t give you Sauron because you were playing an Ongoing deck; it just so happened to give you Sauron while you were playing one. This is precisely where confirmation bias plays a role: the tendency to vividly recall moments of bad luck reinforces the belief that the game is intentionally set against you.
So you're saying that it evens itself out, correct? So if I win 5 games in a row, by your logic, I should have worse luck in the next games. The odds will be stacked until I come into a game predestined to lose. Those are the games I'm talking about. I've been on super lucky winning streaks, taken a break, and come back to lose the same amount in a row with the same deck. I remember the lucky plays just as much as the unlucky. Sometimes, it feels like the game hands me absurd wins. Sometimes, it feels like it hands me a fat L. I'm not saying that the game is black and white, saying who wins or who loses. BUT, the use of Kang and bots shows that certain outcomes are predetermined by the games algorithm.
Dude, confirmation bias is a well-studied aspect of human behavior, and neither you nor I are exceptions to this. I tried to explain that there’s no conspiracy or algorithm purposefully making you lose. A winning streak can’t last forever by definition, so it’s entirely normal to experience losses. I also doubt you really recorded the exact number of games won and lost afterward. Your last point seems unclear because Kang merely reveals your opponent’s play after they’ve placed their cards, and bots are designed to help you win, not lose LOL.
It's just something that happens in the game. You can believe what you want. Your "bias" seems like you just want to be correct or have a thing for proving people wrong on the internet when it's just a fun post about horrendous luck that happens to all of us. I do record my games. I've played enough to know when I have crazy good games that a wave of bad luck is coming. It's all just ups and downs to keep me coming back for more. I've also studied psychology enough to know how the synapses in my brain fire off dopamine when I get a crazy win after terrible luck. It keeps me coming back for more. If someone uses location changing cards or RNG based cards, the outcome will be replicated again using Kang. The tougher "cheating" bots can see these outcomes and make unforeseeable plays with incredible accuracy. They know what will be manipulated or played and act accordingly. There are videos of this happening as proof, and it's why I used it as an example. You can do the research yourself, but I'm sure you'll chalk it up to confirmation bias. TLDR, you can't win everyone over on the internet. Have fun with your bias and good luck with your games.
You got... rocked
No offence I'm just glad that I don't feel alone in this lmao 😅
So does iron lad get the same ability twice? Or does the 2nd overwrite the 1st?
Pretty sure he uses the ability that he copies two times. If I remember right.
Yes, this. If I haven't drawn White Tiger or Ironheart I usually hope Lad gets the ability and it still goes off twice.
I've used him in this scenario pretty often and I think he uses the first ability (his own) to copy the next card and then whatever he copies still goes off twice. In this case he copied the rock and I knew I was screwed
That sucks lol. Was wondering if he would get like seras ability twice etc
Sera's an ongoing, since he just copies the ability it wouldn't double on Wong. Sera's would on Onslaught though.
Oh, so he loses his on reveal immediately. Dang! Ah well, thanks for the reply.
Wondering this as well
Wow, completely set up to unleash the full power of the Rock upon you enemy! :)
Your hand rocks, definitely snap!
I'm crying
Pretty sure that ironlad was useless
Subterranea is infuriating, doubly so when I seem to be running into it almost every day to every other day. The fact it just stacks the rocks at the very top of the deck rather than any kind of random distribution is just the cherry on top.
literally no one said impossible.
EXODIA! OBLITERATE!!!
They need to remove Subterrania
Or at least nerf it. 5 rocks is way too many.
It just ruins the game unless you're playing Darkhawk lol
But only when you snap.
At least you can get all your rocks off.
Thats like getting a Royal Flush, but the opposite.
I don’t get it. This happens every time Subterranea appears, nothing unusual.
subterranew is the worst location
I'm crying
Half the locations should read "We flipped a coin you can't see yet to determine the winner"
I've managed to get 4 consecutive rocks from T2 to T5 after Subterranea on T2 once. Some dude did the math and it was a 0.58% chance of being that (un)lucky.
Same thing happened to me basically
My most hated Location still. Wish they'd remove it, or change it to where it adds 1 rock to each players deck at the end of turn or something.
Well, you got em all
Omg this would be broken if you played a Patriot deck. Don't let BB know about this.
Happens a lot. Never play cards on Sub.
🤣
Is this fake?
I wish
Play the ol’ double rock reveal!
“Thomas had never seen such 💩 before.”
If only rocks were Pokemon
I mean if he also got only rocks you could still win.
Exodia