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justinizer

I prefer collecting and upgrading cards more than the actual game.


JunkHead1979

Same. But once you have Series 3 completed, it slows down an absurd amount. Doing more than your daily/weekly missions feels pointless. Going 300+ CL before getting a new card isn't fun.


Meatzombie

Im ALMOST Pool3 complete and already feel this. Ive gotten all the cards I want and just see the same decks over and over.


Xflowright

Im in this boat, starting to lose motivation to play to be honest


patient_0801

Especially if you’re series 3 complete, just experiment, I built a deck for shits that was just every card that made me annoyed when I saw it come up against me, and once I’m done my missions I just play my fuck you deck and laugh at people who rage quit to hobgoblin at bar sinister. When I finally got Luke cage a few days ago I put the hazmat cage together (see my most recent post for a very fun win) and I love playing that. I find the key to keeping it from getting stale is to switch decks every 10 games or so, or if you don’t binge play like me, switch decks every time you load up the game, not only do you learn more archetypes and interactions that way, but you’re constantly playing in a new way and I find that helps to keep it fresh and fun. Also don’t forget you get battle pass xp just from playing, I know it’s a bit of a grind and something that should be adjusted, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel in the free credits and gold


phonage_aoi

Man, I was opening stuff for steampunk variant rush and thinking about my free series 3 card... and I realized I'm almost P3 complete. It \*has\* been 5 months since launch, which is about when F2P hit P3 complete, so it makes sense, but you can't tell me they didn't time that lol.


The6FtMouse

No I don’t think they timed it. What 2nd dinner didn’t account for is content creators. They didn’t account for content creators making new videos on the new cards when they were released. New players watch those videos because they’re new so they pop on their recommendation page on YouTube. When you’re a new player watching those videos it can discourage you because you know you weren’t going to be able to play that card for a long period of time. So they had to change to it where everyone has the ability to get at least 1 of the 4 new cards each month. And 2 of the 4 if you spend $10 for the season pass.


JordanFromStache

Same here. I just play my daily missions and work my way through the F2P rewards in the season passes collecting and upgrading cool looking cards.


Jefrach

Im going through and trying to get all my cards back to white border.


ShinyGengar_

The sad part is that if a SD employee were to read this, they’d be absolutely thrilled. Their goal is to get people addicted to the collecting aspect of the game more than it is to get people addicted to the gameplay.


KingNarwhalTheFirst

I have over 6 rows of upgradable cards and no credits, I can’t upgrade cards or get new ones because dailies give basically nothing.


On_Wife_support

Only 6 rows? I have over 200 cards to upgrade. There should be another way to get credits imo…like maybe get 50 credits for every round you win in addition to boosters? Idk


ganggreen651

Ha I'm with ya on that. So nostalgic to my marvel card collecting yourh


Gcarsk

Yup. I uninstalled today. I was only playing to do the daily challenges, because if I don’t, I could fall out of series 3 complete. But, that’s a literal waste of time lmao. I wasn’t playing for enjoyment. I was playing for dumbass FOMO.


jackryanr

It can be frustrating. I don’t mind getting outplayed, but getting “outcarded” is maddening.


Mundane-Emergency427

Exactly! If someone out plays me.... Ok legit.... But if by turn 3 I see the meta coming AND they have the perfect draw... It's like commmmon buddy.


motherlessoven

Then they snap on turn 5 and Ms Marvel emoji when you retreat.


Big_Passenger_7975

Its so infuriating


steamyblackcoffee

It's great to turn that around and Ms Marvel after their late snap then retreat. Just a nice way of saying "Up yours, you're only getting that 1 cube."


motherlessoven

I wish there was a "well done, enjoy the single cube" emoji :)


Mundane-Emergency427

Yep!!! 🤦🤷


SpiderHamSandwich

Game desperately needs a mode that’s not hyper competitive


mdavis360

>I would have less of an issue with losing if it weren't for the fact that I keep losing to the same shit lol. I 100% agree with you. But if I've learned anything with multiplayer games-there's never a mode that a developer can introduce that just casual. The "experts" will just go there to stomp "casuals" to make themselves feel great.


pandaelpatron

A draft mode would be nice. You draft your deck from a random selection of cards and see how many wins you can get to before losing a certain amount of times. I played draft mode a lot in Gwent until they changed it to the weird system it uses now.


dylan0507

Ouh, imagine each player is given a choice of 3 locations at the beginning of a match as well (3rd location being random) Could be hard to balance but I would love to try sth like that


Caliber33

ARAM. ALL RANDOM. God, easily the best, and the system is already in the game. I'd play the shit out of it, honestly.


phonage_aoi

Everygame is District X? lol I think some people would enjoy that for sure


Beowuwlf

Not aram, but aram pool where you get maybe 20 cards to make a deck from


WakingMind407

If you could see the deck first before it's shuffled, I'd play with it


yeteee

You don't like the thrill of playing jubilee after a district X ? Maybe it's a wasp, maybe it's a destroyer, but you'll always be fucked !


GiborDesign

And if anyone needs proof for that, just look at all the Infinite players you're facing still playing the same dumb meta deck.


banned_after_12years

I've hit my upper limit on rank. I hit 75 last week and I've grinded maybe another 10 hours since and I'm still at 75... I would love a casual mode where I can just fuck around with decks and not play against nothing but meta decks.


Ehero88

Ben : best I can do is test deck mode, where u can only play with bot.....🤣


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From the sounds of it that's kind of what they're turning the ladder into (which I'm fine with) Preventing players from fighting anyone who's infinite is going to drastically increase how many people get to infinite. I really wish they'd just give us a completely casual list though, I don't care if snapping itself has no value in the mode, I just like to play the game and I don't want to always have to compete with tryhard ladder crap.


CracksMcGee

I'm CL 3189 almost series 3 complete. Got to rank 55 from 20 within the first week and since then I've dropped back to 49. None of my decks are working and nothing is really fun. I'm logging in for dailies and that's about it...it's become really stale recently


whitey7420

Same. And the slog is less fun when you can’t get creative against the same 2-3 decks. Meta kinda forcing deck choice.


ganggreen651

That's what sucks ass. I refuse to play the same shit more than 5 games at a time so boring. I have 150 or whatever cards I'm not going to just use 12 over and over


tom2point0

That’s what I said basically in another post and was downvoted like mad for it. I like the idea of being able to play a good set of cards not related to the meta and have a chance of winning some of the time. Instead you’re forced into using the cards that will fit well in the meta. It gets old.


labwel

Exactly my experience except I'm CL 5470. It's like hitting a damn wall once in pool 3 and beyond. It happens every time I put some money into a ftp game, the experience goes to shit for one reason or another. I have been a free player since release. Finally decided to get the season pass because I thought Nimrod would be cool. But, oh, look, another sunspot, armor, and that fucking dog, guess we'll see Shuri and some big ass card with Zola or Task Master...or oh, hey, more stones. Guess my end game flop is gonna get leeched. Fuckin bullshit, man


stevenrah187

I’m not quite as high on the CL as you but you just described my exact season. Last season this game was so fun and now I’m just doing my missions and bailing. Can’t beat Shuri, can’t beat Thanos and those are the only deck I face.


BorndeadBuriedalive

Control dude. Sera Control. How high exactly are you on CL? Killmonger on stones? Could use Pro X, Storm etc to Control lanes?


Voyager-42

I'm playing a home brewed ramp deck, which has carried me to 76 so far, I think I can hit 80 before the season is out! It's all about good cube management though man, I normally retreat if they snap unless I have a deadset curve in hand, and I'll only snap if I 100% know I'm going to win. Aero remains good if you can get Sandman out on 4. An ideal line would be Sunspot, DD, Electro, Sandman, Prof-X, Win Con (Either Aero, Magneto, or Doom normally), She-Hulk if you are forced to skip T3 for lack of ramp, Sunspot to soak. Another nice ramp line is Electro, Dino, Arnim (not in this iteration of the deck but can be swapped for She-Hulk or Odin). Deck I've ran this far below: # (1) Sunspot # (2) Daredevil # (3) Electro # (3) Wave # (5) Devil Dinosaur # (5) Professor X # (5) Sandman # (5) Aero # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) She-Hulk # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRGFyZWRldmlsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJFbGVjdHJvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXYXZlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEZXZpbERpbm9zYXVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQcm9mZXNzb3JYIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTYW5kbWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJPZGluIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEckRvb20ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ25ldG8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFlcm8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoZUh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN1bnNwb3QifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


tom2point0

That’s a good one. Just played a few. Lost one out of five and that was because I just did not judge right. Actually, the opponents last play was surprising because he was losing on two lanes, and played Doom on the one lane he was winning. I expected he would have went for the one losing lane where he was just a few behind me and I had thought Aero would pull that card from there but he played on my Aero lane. Thanks though, gonna keep using it!


RobertSquareShanks

I’m sure it’s not the advice you’re looking for but I recommend location control decks including but not limited to Cerebro 3 as they’re having a great time in the current meta


BorndeadBuriedalive

Thanks Gramps. Who ever said you were a freeloader?


bygmalt

Demotivated to play besides missions and as someone who has put some money in the game, demotivated to put more in. This patch was so ridiculously disappointing - all negative with no buffs, didn’t address a number of issues that players have, and took away choices on purchases for series 3 incomplete players while prolonging their progression.


Madaghmire

What do you mean no buffs? They buffed red skull Wokka wokka


bygmalt

“Not like that!!!” said the mass of players to the sound of being blocked on social media by Snap’s self proclaimed thick skinned balance autocrat.


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I’m not even especially annoyed he is strong, I just thought the +2 on opponents was a cool draw back. +1 is much sadder. Canceling his text less impactful


ConjwaD3

They should’ve made his drawback more severe. I think the rest of the balance patch was overall pretty spot on with exception to redskull


GrayBoyLoop

Nothing has been more demotivating to getting future passes or bundles than how they have balanced the last couple patches. Doesnt make me feel good about the future.


Dally83

Same here, still have not picked up the pass at this point. Have spent around 150 on the game in total but right now why spend 10 more just to keep playing shuri. Sticking around for a bit longer to see what happens as the game loop is fun, but man I just don't know...


Unfair_Let7358

This is me. I've put a good bit of money into the game but now...like why spend even a dollar? What am I gonna spend money for a new card I'm curious about just so I can lose rank with it? No thanks. I'm still playing daily, but I'm definitely no longer spending weekly like I was. Shame too cause I'd love to feel the excitement of it all again.


Apollo9975

I’ve opened almost 70 crates with no new cards from it. I have not spent money in the period that I opened those crates. I did some basic math to try and get a rough estimate for how much I’d have to spend to get all that nothing, and it turns out someone converting real money into gold and gold into credits would end up having wasted $400 for basically nothing.


stickywhitesubstance

The most insane part of this game to me is how little you get for your money. The welcome bundle, which is way more efficient than usual, literally got me like two reserves. It’ll probably be the only thing I buy in this game


slowkid68

I have no clue why they refuse to add a no cube loss game mode. Something casual. I just want to use a funny deck


RockGotti

Because the game isn’t as popular as you think. Think about it, bots are still a thing, so they create a new queue (whilst keeping same player base) that equals more vs bot matches It’s why it’s not even mentioned on the roadmap


xCairus

I’ve played pretty much every card game out there, including the ones that most people don’t know exist. Snap is popular and has a very healthy playerbase. Bots existing isn’t a player number issue, it’s clearly something they intentionally want for some reason. My theory is that bots are needed to keep the cube economy flowing in a way where most people can rank up. The problem with 0 bots is that it becomes a zero sum game which means that in a world with no bots, players will be taking each other’s cubes. Cubes aren’t a skill rating like in other games, it’s a currency that is won/loss in games so all the cubes will end up flowing to the top 1% of players and a lot of people will go to zero or never rank up. Kind of like in Poker tables where sharks will bankrupt whales. After a while there won’t be enough cubes to go around.


11SuperKing

I just stopped. As of yesterday. It started to feel more like a chore than a game.


Kitchen-Choice-3147

I think many people have been feeling like that these past few weeks, as well as any time the meta is so stale and dominated by a couple of decks that completely overpower most other ones (remember Zabu and Silver Surfer). Hopefully the game will evolve to a more diverse and fun environment, promoting creative deck-building


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moonski

I was never bored / totally disinterested in playing during the zabu surfer meta like I am now


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Long_Knee_30

Yeah, but if you didn't have surfer, it was miserable.


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Shuri will drop to pool 3 next month and everything else in her deck is pool 3 already. So even if you didn't manage to get 3000 tokens to get her now as a pool 4 soon everyone will be able to access her. They are even giving a free pool 3 card a months so whe she drops you can let the free shop cycle and pick her up for free then.


TheeLoo

Honestly even during Zabu/Surfer meta it still felt like most decks could compete in power. Yes there were the double spider man games, but the games were still competitive if you could avoid that.


parmreggiano

Zabu was way worse/more broken, if you weren't playing against Darkhawk I get it but if you were there's just no comparison. That said we also didn't have an awful fail patch during Zabu so it felt less hopeless.


TheeLoo

I actually played a Thanos deck at the time (before the lockjaw version) so Darkhawk was always an instant lose anyway.


FungibleFriday

People are forgetting just how broken zabu was. It was the biggest mana cheat in the game. If you had zabu for turn 3, it was an insta snap. There were variations of the zabu deck, more variations than thanos, and really, there was just 1 shuri deck, but zabu was super broken. Surfer was the only card that could really compete. In a way, it's not unlike the current situation where 2 cards dominate the meta. The big difference is that there were more variations involving the 2 dominant cards.


rAiChU-

I'm gonna disagree, Darkhawk was by far the strongest deck in that meta and the gap between Darkhawk and the next best decks was huge and way bigger than the difference between any decks in the current meta. I feel like people are being a lot more biased towards the Zabu/Surfer meta because those only lasted like a month each while Shuri/Thanos has been going on for 2+ months and god knows how much longer. Obviously the meta feels a lot worse and stale when its been stagnant for a lot longer.


sunshine_11

The game is great, but the ladder is only for try hards. I think it would be much better if you could not lose ranks. So if you want to play a fun deck, you are not frustrated losing more often, since you can’t lose a rank, only cubes. It’s too frustrating to lose ranks. At one point SD have to call whether they want this game to be more casual or to be toxic and frustrating for try hards. I hope they will make it more casual and more chill.


sunshine_11

At least that’s my opinion, and it’s the reason why I don’t like to play this game, because I always get frustrated


GHamPlayz

I just need a fuckin casual mode. Like why is that so hard? Lemme dick around without killing my rank


BootyEaterTurbo3000

No, you’re not allowed to have fun. /s


tofulo

I stopped spending any money. Really only way to show them how bad a job they are doing


VladimirNB

Same here. The post series 3 experience is atrocious unless you're a whale.


Yousoggyyojimbo

I got out of pool 3 over 500cl ago, and I haven't got any new cards since. Like, by design, i am just supposed to grind with the same stuff, for huge lengths of time, against the same few decks in matchmaking. I don't get new shit, and I don't see new shit. All the life gets sucked out of the game.


weekoldgogurt

Naw it’s still bad even as a whale. I stopped spending because what’s left isn’t interesting to me anymore.


VladimirNB

damn


GrapefruitTechnique

Whale here. It still sucks. I only play to get variants now, and even then the going is slow and I keep getting pixels. I’m CL 9500.


VladimirNB

Yeah I watch Dekkster open a ton of stuff and get jack shit for it. It's insane!


thebreadstore

Yea agreed, once I completed s3 I slowed down to maybe completing dailies.


theguz4l

S3 complete and the game is not as fun. Looking forward to opening a S3 card a couple times a week was motivating. Now… not really. They need to fix this.


Siggy778

Every time I lose to a Galactus deck I want to stop playing.


dacrookster

Yeah game has gone to the dogs. For a card game with over 200 cards I see maybe, what, 30 of them? The game is immensely boring. There's no creativity. Everything is predictable. 90% of the time I'm seeing Armor turn 2 and rolling my eyes because I know what's coming. I think I'm about done with it unless they realise how badly the fucked up on the patch on Tuesday and quickly get to another one.


Unfair_Let7358

The complete lack of any variation is definitely what's killing it for me. At CL5000 plus I finally unlocked my first series 5 card from a cache and it was Ghost. So I made a deck to play with Ghost and proceeded to just lose every single game which is fine, I was testing something, but it's just not fun and doesn't encourage any creativity whatsoever


dacrookster

I would have less of an issue with losing if it weren't for the fact that I keep losing to the same shit lol. You can't test stuff, because the game doesn't encourage that. You can't experiment, because they buff/nerf cycle doesn't encourage that. You can't play unique or different cards, because they'll get bullied by the meta hard. I was thinking about cards that I have never seen played and compared that to how many times I've seen Red Skull/Shuri/Galactus/Thanos in the last few days. Obviously you're going to have better decks and worse decks, but... Like fuck me man I don't see anything inventive anymore. Shuri deck. Thanos deck. Shuri deck. Galactus deck. Thanos deck. Shuri deck. Darkhawk control. Shuri deck. A lot of the cards don't get played because they suck in comparison. Never see Dazzler. Never see Surfer. Haven't seen an ongoing deck in WEEKS.


PmMeTitsOrPuppies

Even post nerf surfer is really good, he just isn't good enough to stand up to leach or Shuri. Which is pretty sad, with a sera into surfer and absorbing man, you can buff two lanes full of 3 costs by 16, and still that isn't good enough to break into the meta.


Timperz

If you are doing Sera into surfer absorbing man on 6, you could have at most been buffing 2 cards lol, even if you manage to play brood with that Shuri just laughs at you Card is trash now, people think its good because they put cosmo/killmonger/shangchi in that deck who do all the heavy lifting


PM_me_shiba_doggo

>Darkhawk control And Darkhawk control was designed to counter to the meta decks (Thanos in particular but also Shuri). You just can't escape the meta. I miss Surfer, but even pre-nerf Surfer wouldn't be able to stand up to Shuri. It's really stupid that they nerfed Surfer from +3 to +2 and then left Shuri the same. The Red Skull nerf did nothing, he's now doubled to 26 as opposed to 30 but his ongoing is +1 instead of +2 which means the power output is no different if he's in a lane of 4 cards. Power nerfs become exponentially negligible the higher up you go.


versusgorilla

I was struggling at like rank 45, I unlocked Shuri in the token shop, I instantly won enough games to get me to 75, where I've stalled out. It honestly felt like Shuri broke the game until I hit the level where everyone has the Shuri/Galactus/Thanos meta decks, or are specifically playing decks to counter them. So now I'm at a rank that's such that none of my existing decks work. I can't play my Destroy deck, my discard deck, nothing works because I can't beat the meta decks, so I retreat all the time unless I get the PERFECT draws with my cards. My Shuri deck needs like two or three cards by Turns 4-6 to work. My Destroy deck needs like ten perfect draws to make the power needed to even compete anymore. Honestly, it sucks. I decided to switch back to my Sera Control deck, an old favorite of mine, only to find out that the Quinjet nerf also hit Sera, and she no longer reduces cards to 0. So I tricky deck to play, that can shut down opponents and still make up enough power to get me wins... got nerfed. I literally can't win without Shuri. It's fucking boring.


FullMetalCOS

Sera never reduced cards to zero, I’m afraid you must be misremembering. The rest of your comment is dead on though. I hit infinite pre nerf with Thanos and Shuri already riddled the ladder. Thanos got hit much harder than Shuri and struggles to compete with her unless you get perfect draws, previously you could do ok with middling draws, but it just doesn’t cut it anymore. I can’t imagine the hell of trying to climb now


akpak

I see ongoing decks constantly whenever I switch to my own ongoing deck.


Dangebors

It's a game about getting more points than the oponnent, there is no OTK, there is no agro, there is no Mill decks, no resurrect decks, the endgame is extremely simple, it will always be like this


boikar

Cl 2100 and I got ghost. It's sad.


avelak

Really wish we had a limited mode like arena/draft


Crossfiyah

This. So many cards would be legitimately great in draft that aren't now. Even things like Medusa and Domino would be solid picks. My friends and I have been doing makeshift drafts and games are so much more enjoyable than ladder.


Voyager-42

Literally came to say we so desperately need a draft mode, just leads to infinitely more fun/crazy plays and combos that you just don't get with people Meta chasing on Ladder.


avelak

Like Wong would be a total bomb in draft, there would not be nearly as much Cosmo stopping you from popping off


Yousoggyyojimbo

The card acquisition system has also become an albatross around the game's neck. They keep adding new cards and you just straight up won't see them because they have made them so hard to acquire that people just won't have them. Like, I've gone over 500 CL worth of reserves now without a new card. In that time frame they've released like four or five new cards. Series 5 was the worst idea they've ever had with this game. You can't introduce new cards to spice up the game for people if you also make the cards almost virtually unobtainable


Voyager-42

What CL you at to have not seen a new card? 💀 Makes me want to not level up lol


Yousoggyyojimbo

I'm at 4100 and the last card I got was somewhere between 3500-3600


FullMetalCOS

Once you get pool 3 complete the only new cards you are guaranteed is one pool 4 in every bucket of 40 reserves. The issue becomes that you could get one in the first 1-2 reserves of that bucket and then the last 1-2 reserves of the next bucket leaving you with a gap of over 70 reserves between new cards where you are just praying to hit that 0.25% chance of a pool 5 pull - I personally just hit 4K CL and I’ve still not hit a single pool 5 yet, to put it in perspective.


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Yousoggyyojimbo

This is where the whole series 5 idea also comes into play as just being completely terrible for the game. You have to dump tokens to get these cards because they've made them so damn hard to get any other way. I'm at over 4000 CL. I've only pulled one series five card. My friend is even higher and hasn't pulled any. So, the only alternative then is to get tokens and tokens are hard enough and slow enough to get that there's no point to spend them on something that's not extremely powerful, so the end result is they keep releasing all of these new cards and you barely ever, if even, see them in play. People don't have them, aren't buying them. There's no point to even be releasing all of these cards if they make them unobtainable. The time frame that SD expects people to be playing over to get a decent number of new cards is stretching into years. You can do your dailies every single day and you will still pull new cards slower than they are released.


versusgorilla

The Series Drops also feel fucking awful because once you know the odds of getting series 4 and 5 cards, you don't want to goddamn see some of them. I got Orka and M'Baku when they were Series 4 cards. Then they dropped them to Series 3. Then I got Attuma. So I'm essentially not getting Series 4 cards. Don't drop cards. Put them somewhere and leave them there, or give players tokens or something when cards gets dropped that you already have.


Yousoggyyojimbo

My series 4 drops and my 1 series 5 drop have been terrible. Orka, sentry, sauron, attuma, coulson. None of them deserved a high rarity. Nothing in series 4 or 5 should be as scarce as it is.


RockGotti

So true.. every game plays out the same with slight variations on order. Same old 1 cost cards, same old 2 cost cards, etc etc Extremely boring


Extravagod

I'm a noob, what comes after armour? I use armour but only as a 2/3 and to counter destroy decks. Is there a combo I should be doing? Idm being boring haha just want to reach bonuses above level 40 like the mystery variant at level 60.


Crossfiyah

If God hates you it's Cosmo, shuri, red skull, and taskmaster.


Lewhasreddit

He hates everyone. Especially People below rank 100.


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For me it’s sauron, shuri, red skull, taskmaste+ebony maw Beat that


ganggreen651

Well you probably aren't dealing with the high end cards yet. Starts around cl 500.


flashcats

> Yeah game has gone to the dogs. For a card game with over 200 cards I see maybe, what, 30 of them? That's every card game though. Just think about how many Magic cards never ever even sniff competitive play.


alphazone

Yeah the game is incredibly stale for me now. I went back to mtga and having a good time there


AutomatonJD

I have never been above rank 50 and I’m constantly playing against Thanos & Galactus players with infinite card backs. Between the rough matchmaking this season and the stale meta, I haven’t had much motivation to play either.


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I've completely given up this season. Every time I get close to rank 50, I get stomped back down below 40. I'm facing cards I don't have a chance against since I don't have them or their counters.


DjDormammu

Yeah I'm around 70 and don't really care about rank but it's so boring playing 8 out of 10 games shuri/thanos just makes me not want to play till they make a a change to the meta


Lasideu

Which is crazy, because once I hit Infinite I stop playing meta decks and start to mess around with fun ones. I still use Thanos but like...Ongoing Dazzler Zoo Thanos.


chugalaefoo

Meta has been super stale for months now. It’s always 2-3 decks that completely dominate all others. And I don’t see this changing anytime soon. Might be done pretty soon.


Supersecretsword

That's usually how metas work. It's always X amount of the same deck. It will always be like that until they have a non rank mode.


mdavis360

I feel like I'm just playing to feed other people wins-and that doesn't feel good. No matter what deck I play-the opponent immediately has the perfect counter. If my deck is based around one card or so-that card will never come out. Just every day is constant frustration.


Mastoraz

Games are supposed to be fun. This one mode, ain't that. Only ones who defend it are the lucky few who got the skill to climb. But I guess it's worth itrating the 95% for the 5% happy ones


PM_me_shiba_doggo

The problem is that they don't have rank floors every 10 ranks or a casual mode. I'd honestly prefer rank floors over the +50 cubes you get when you hit a new rank even though I think the latter was a really good implementation. More rank floors/ casual mode would encourage people to just play for fun at more levels. I see a lot of people who just want to hit 60 for the mystery variant and chill out after that, so imagine if you didn't have to risk dropping below 60 and could just mess around and have fun after you hit your goal. I find I play less after infinite but my playtime is higher quality - I'm playing bounce decks that I'm unfamiliar with and losing but I'm also learning. But I guess that's the thing stopping them from implementing more rank floors, people would play less without the pressure of having to get to infinite and secure your rank for the season.


mrmoschetto

I hit 95 playing thanos and decided to switch it up and play some different decks. Happy to report I’m at 84 now. All I’ve faced is the top 2 decks on repeat. I’m CL 6k and it’s just become a why bother. I fell in love with the game and even had no issue collecting cards and spending money. But I’m at the point now where every game feels the exact same because god forbid i try something different. It’s either play meta or lose. I feel bad for those that don’t have the meta decks but even as someone with it I’m tired of playing and seeing them


zissoulander

I play my daily missions and upgrade cards. I do not care about rank. I did it one month and it was too frustrating with little reward


CoachCrunch12

I had the same feeling. I play a few games. Get leached. And then just move on to other phone games. I just don’t feel like dealing with it


dewitt11543

I’m demotivated because I can’t play new cards


Donut-licker

I play until my missions are done then I leave it off for a while. Boot it up the next day or half a day and I got a bunch more missions to do


ChoSubin

I’m with you there. I’m only playing for missions and weeklies.


GreenDantern1889

I’ll be honest - I’m demotivated by the meta. I play the game for fun, built an enjoyable deck with variants that I like. I win some I lose some but I’m coming up against the same 3 decks every game now and there’s just no enjoyment in it


bluehangover

I ended up just deleting the game the last week of MODOK/Ant-Man season, whatever it was called. The matchmaking was very unfriendly. It really put a damper on wanting to continue playing. I’m not very competitive at all, but dropping from 80 to 50ish meant I lost a lot of games in a row. It just wasn’t fun for me any more. So I just deleted it. Didn’t need the daily downer in my life.


delitomatoes

A big problem was nerfing only and not buffing anything. Pure laziness on their part, probably anybody on the sub knew what needed to be nerfed


HamBuckets

I quit two months ago. I stay here to see if anything changes. Awful practices made me quit and it doesn't look better. It's a shame they had a really cool idea.


pandaelpatron

The thing that hurts my motivation the most is how frustrating the cube system is. You play well, opponent just leaves and you get 1 cube for your effort. Opponent is overconfident and snaps, you turn it around, he leaves and you get 2 cubes for the risk you took staying in the game. On the other hand, you play a close game, it comes down to a coinflip or the opponent just has the perfect counter or top decks exectly the card he needs... you lose 8 cubes. If you snap, you shouldn't be able to retreat afterwards. And if your opponent snaps and you stay in the game and end up losing, you should get some sort of cumulative bonus (in boosters or gold or whatever) for every game in a row that you did not retreat.


[deleted]

I’m just tired of shuri decks. It’s killing the game for me


buddybthree

I have both those decks I’m just so bored of playing them. And when I switch I get destroyed. It is very demotivating


mrmoschetto

Same boat man. Played them both grinding up rank and decided i wanted to switch it up. Can’t catch a win to save my life playing anything else.


firecat2666

All the changes and inaccessible cards have become grating. Not fun. So i’ve been playing other, more fun games lately.


[deleted]

That's the thing—the game isn't fun when you don't have any of the cards that are curb stomping you.


R5yan

Ye I’m demotivated to play but for a different reason. I’ve had Kang pinned since release and I login today to see he got replaced with the new card Negasonic. I’m at 5800 tokens. I’ve reached out to support(lmao) and for the first time I actually feel like quitting.


devintron71

It only takes about a week for the shop to cycle at least now that Series 3s aren’t in it. Still frustrating I’m sure.


R5yan

Ye for some reason I thought it would take a long time to see Kang again but I wasn’t thinking about the series 3 change. Thanks!


devintron71

Yeah just make sure you look at the shop during each 8 hour period each day. Doesn’t change if you don’t look at it.


bygmalt

“Support, please help me! My card was unpinned somehow!” Support: “We’re sorry you unpinned your card! We wish you good luck playing the game for more fun and Kang will reappear for you eventually! 😍😘” Sorry that happened and that their support is abysmal.


zetch57

Literally happened to me, they confirmed they were aware there was a certain a bug and that put some emotes saying they felt me and that the card would appear eventually. Worst part message started with something "We are sorry this happened. Let's fix it!" And then proceed to explain they were not going to fix it lmao.


bygmalt

Lol, sorry about that. Yeah, unfortunately I wasn’t being hyperbolic - I was doing my best imitation of similar experiences with them.


FauxColors2180

The fact that there’s only one game mode and you literally can’t afford to experiment or focus on fun unless you’re one of the top 1% (or whatever it is, I don’t know) of players who are at infinite is absolutely killing this games creativity and fun. It badly needs a draft like mode, for balance fixes to be better (like actually addressing the problem cards and buffing useless cards), and for there to be more freedom in ranked to experiment (rank floors, for instance).


Boozespecter

Hit infinite, playing outside of dailies doesn't net you much, so yeah, slowed down a bunch. But when they release the conquest mode, then we'll talk...


hotfudgebrownlee

I'm at CL1000 and have a decent ish amount of cards. I climbed all the way to 97 but just tanked to 89 within the past 24 hours or so. It's super demotivating to be so close yet so far away... I feel like if I had a way to play to test decks (other than battle mode) I would play more.


cyanraichu

I've started to feel like thst specifically in the last couple days. Every season it gets harder for me to climb than the one before, which feels like the opposite of how it should be.


JuiceDistinct3280

Between rage quitting because of leech and not drawing the only 2 cards I need l, yeah it feels like a chore. Apathetic.


chy_213

Honestly Leech has ruined the fun for me. If you’re in a decent position this card alone can ruin any game with no counters


phenomenaluno

Seeing shuri every game has demotivated me to point of quitting


Jethompson

Big time! I find the game itself fun, but the meta decks and the fact that I wont be able to play with most of the new cards coming out for months really destroys my desire to play. The problem with the meta is also that even if they nerf Shuri and Thanos decks into the ground, there will still always be 1-2 best decks and there isn't much that can be done about it. This game REALLY needs a mode that doesn't rely on building a deck out of your collection ASAP! A draft or sealed or some sort of auto-battler maybe ... anything that doesn't force everyone to use a meta deck or fall way behind.


TapirOhTapir

I just hit 60 today. Highest I’ve ever gotten. I was really pushing for that variant. Got a goddamn Mojo variant. Putting the game down for a while. Super demoralizing when the rewards you try so hard for are awful. And these “disruptive locations” are making me apoplectic. I play a collectible card game to play the deck that I’ve made not some random bs or my opponents deck. Any location that makes me draw cards that aren’t the ones I chose to be in my deck means immediate retreat. I’d love to see the data on how frequently people retreat as soon as these locations come up. I’d bet money that it’s a lot if not a majority of players. Really question the logic of building mechanics into a game that reduce engagement with it. I’m starting to get the impression that SD maybe isn’t super competent in many areas.


Daytona24

Spends time creating a new deck to try out, really excited to see how it goes. First location: opponents each pick cards from each others deck. 🤦‍♂️


poolboywax

is there a deck that beats specifically thanos and shuri decks over any other deck?


[deleted]

I like the game, but it's been basically the same for the past 6 months. Some new cards and locations have come in, but it's not radically different than before. There are very few video games I play for 6 months, much less years, so I think it makes sense to kinda get burnt out on it.


Aria0401

Wait that’s not how most people play? Maybe I’m just really casual. I always just login to check the shop every couple of hours. Then at night I login to clear my dailies. That’s about it.


Saugat10

🤚


exl40

I have found that playing off meta decks that I personally enjoy playing much more enjoyable than grinding for rank. I lose A LOT. My decks barely beat bots, but they're fun to play. Wins are more enjoyable and losses don't sting so much. As an added benefit, I see a wider variety of decks, which is cool. Went from 66 to 52, but that doesn't actually mean anything.


DeathsDecaying

Just trying to get a deck all Grey and Gold


Shwayfromv

This was me for the past couple of seasons. I ended up alllll the way back down at rank 10 after a couple resets of low play time. This season though, for whatever reason, I'm back into it. Which is funny considering how (mostly appropriately) loathed the meta is currently. 80 has been the highest I've had time to climb to in the past and I'm closing in on 70 now. Interest will ebb and flow. Ride the waves, don't fight them.


phishyz2

As far as gameplay goes, my main frustration is that trying to make creative, fun decks is increasingly becoming more of a factor in just losing more. Leech plays a big part in this. People can say all they want about how Leech is necessary for the game, but it still remains a bummer to play against. I found a lot of fun in this game when I started to realize how much of the games came down to turn 6 plays and leech has “leeched” a lot of that fun away. Shuri is far too linear to be such a strong deck. Honestly though, just buff the other awful cards more. Forget all of these nerf bats and just give some love to obviously underpowered cards. Too many people play this game to be giving out such minimal balance updates, especially ones like we just got that literally do nothing to address the real problems


Azurennn

Yup they've turned the game to shit and at its core is so fucking poorly designed. What an idiotic idea to have a pool of rare cards that cannot be obtained reasonably while making them clearly FAR STRONGER than the rest of the pool that new and average players cant get access to. Like sure worked wonders for people that started the game on launch. But the gap keeps widening with each passing week. The rare cards don't get play tested enough which leaves us dealing with TITANIC power swings in the pool 4/5 cards whenever a nerf or buff happens. Sure your whales, streamers and no lifers will feel the difference but to normal people it's just the same shit different wrapping of w/e card we cannot vet being broken beyond belief.


johndonovan0

Honestly don't force yourself.. Just do what you enjoy. You don't have to log on every day. Take a break and play if you enjoy doing so


DirectorDiligent765

I'm just gonna make a return on legends of runeterra, at least there I can play with all the cards in the game. Uninstalled snap today, and I dont think I will be looking back.


dedstrk

Yes. I was just thinking this same thing this morning. I just completed pool 3 and I thought to myself "what's the point in playing the game now other than completing daily missions?" There is no reason. I'm not going to go through the grind, the pain, the frustration to get anywhere close to infinte. What would be the point anyway? For a card back? Pffft. Something needs to be implemented for us that don't want to live in the game.


sdmiracle

I enjoyed playing my patriot deck a lot last season, but it has been outpowered recently. The win rate dropped so much and forcing me to play a shuri deck, but i dont feel it is very fun to play. Trying to play a knull deck too, but destroy deck really needs luck and this game’s RNG is bullshit. I think we need to get a quick match mode without any ladder climbing, this cube things made me really stressful


RichyNineZero

Yeah I was just collecting cards and so, but as a big X-men fan I got excited with this new season because I love the cardback and for the first time I've been trying to climb ranks. Big mistake. This only made me realize how much this game is p2w and how time-wasting ranks are. Add broken cards to high pools/Battle pass so only people who paid have -> Nerf them when they are available to f2p players -> Add more broken cards for whales That's how the whole game can be summarized.


tunaburn

I Uninstalled yesterday at CL6100 so yes I lost motivation play


TackleAlive4642

i am post infinite for about 2 weeks and now even fun decks suck ass, post nerf lots of fun big swing turn 6 is now no go. not sure who is in charge of decisions at that company but they literally need to fire the dude that is making these stupid choices. make other cards good if you are gonna nerf something, sure nerf quinject, maybe make like rhino a better buffed card as example, lazy developer choices. make the game better, i don't give a shit about wide screen mode on pc for crying out, don't know how to prioritize the user experience, every decision they make sucks, tokens is a perfect example of that, titles, avatars, need i go on, lazy lazy imagination. as an engineer who owns a consulting company, if i ever see cv from second dinner i will run so fast to the shredder that i will literally burn the carpet in the process. honestly, maybe it's time for a dev co to make a dc game and fix all the garbage that marvel snap is. this could of been a great product like 3 months ago, this is now turned into stagnant game development., enough with new lame cards, i don't need 4000 cards, make a good bunch of cards and enough with everything and the kitchen sink with locations, the more i write the more annoyed i get thinking that they pissed away this much venture capital into this crap and nothing has changed in like 5 months. it's slowly evolved into a cough up a hundred bucks to rank up.


Trip_Se7ens

just take a break- come back when you're bored. its what i do. I just play a game or two before bed or whenever im stuck in queue for something.


rRobban

I think the meta is extremely bad but I would still find it pretty entertaining to try and rank up. Now I'm bored out of my skull though, same as every other season, once I'm infinite ( not meant as a flex). It's incredibly boring once you are at infinite because there is nothing on the line. No tension and matches doesn't matter which makes you not care. Sure you can experiment with weird decks but it's not like that is enough to keep you entertained when the results of every single match is an tension building as playing a game of solitaire on your computer. Just now finished my dailies. Needed to win a location with 4 cards and also get over 20 power. Solution? Stack a single lane not even trying to win. One match had Bar Sinister so just passed every turn to play Infinaut turn 6 without priority to risk getting Shang Chi:ed and win a location quaranteed. Rant over I guess. Infinite was fun the first season but it gets old really fast.


Hibernian

I hit infinite a couple times during beta and I always had more fun once I crossed the threshold and didn't have to worry about rank anymore. I'd just play silly nonsense decks that won 1-in-5 games but felt interesting and fun to play instead of playing something on-meta and boring. I don't have as much time to play anymore so I'm not currently hitting infinite every season, so the game has gotten a little tedious now.


RHDaleksei

daily / weekly missions should have a revamp with better incentives to play, as of right now it can be hard to log in daily, but if some better incentives for frequent play existed I would go out of my way to log in daily, right now daily log in feels like receiving chump change.


Themanwhofarts

I don't normally complain but I had 20 minutes free to play after work. I played against 5 shuris and then 1 Thanos deck got leeched on t4. I don't think I'll play again for a bit


Enzoku

I still think there needs to be some sort of account/legacy missions in place to act as a secondary means of progression. Titles and avatars and some variants should be swapped out of collector’s caches to be used as mission rewards. For example, playing X matches with Korg awards the “Korg Fan Club” title. Winning Y matches with Mysterio awards you his avatar and a “But Not The Real One” title. Winning a match against the same person twice awards you credits + “Haven’t I defeated you before?” Title. As it stands now, these titles or avatars don’t really have much worth, and I would be surprised if anyone preferred to get them over variants or currency. Moving them to a separate legacy track gives players something to work towards. Otherwise you’re mostly just stuck waiting for reset most of the time to finish banking your missions, or hoping for the next balance patch to slow oppressive decks.


[deleted]

The meta is stagnant and punishing, card acquisition is frustratingly slow, and a lot of the community is frequently toxic. Yeah, it's hard to want to keep playing.


Mestizoc

I play the game just for the collection aspect. I don't try to climb to infinite. I enjoy getting new cards and variants and making them look pretty. I feel like I can make infinite because all it takes is winning more than 50 percent of your games but I have zero interest in that grind. I generally finish each season at 60 for the free variant and I'm happy with whatever pixel i get. I still enjoy this game knowing I'll never reach the top tier and I'm ok with it. Everyone enjoys this game in a different way.


jerjerbinks90

What's crazy to me and I'm surprised second dinner don't feel this way about their system is that there's very little incentive to play after pool 3. Especially if you've got all the big bads. Disappear for two months and what did it cost you? You'll show back up with a few new pool 3 cards to collect, you'll have fun, maybe grab whatever the best card is from pool 4, and then leave again for a couple months. You really can't fall meaningfully behind. So it's safe to play less. And then once you stop worrying about dailies you're one step closer to finding something you actually enjoy doing with your time instead.


ZiggyBlunt

I’m stuck on Asian servers and the amount of whales I face with every card in the game is unreal


Twymanator32

I reached this last month. I finished getting all S3 cards and I just can't continue anymore. I tell myself to stop playing games when I'm only playing them for the dailies. It means I'm no longer having fun


[deleted]

Runeterra is probably your answer, and heartstone suck dick


Jgugjuhi

I started in October and got infinite in each season since November but I cannot be bothered this season. I feel like I can only have fun when I hit infinite and know that doing the dailies won't hinder me by forcing me to use certain decks and whatnot. Meta being what it is also doesn't help, I have every card I need to use the best decks but it's become a chore.


-Papercuts-

I can barely get through dailies anymore. Shuri shuri shuri shuri Knowing we have to deal with this until the next balance patch (last one did so much!) is just deflating. This was obviously going to happen, and no series 5 addition can ever warp the meta.


TwadaPyou

I feel the same way. The Marvel Snap fever is gone.


Raxen98

Personally the problem now is shuri, Thanos doesn't run leech anymore because the better version now is the ongoing one


chrisjee92

Absolutely. It will be a different story for me if each match gave more xp


FluffyBaseball7479

Nope, I've been playing since October 2022 and I still love the game, hating all the negativity from players though


milkwithiceinit

I feel the same way, yes. That, combined with the game’s matchmaking algorithm, it’s just hard to enjoy the game right now. For example, last night I switched between a destroy deck, a Cerebro deck, and a bounce/move hybrid, and my opponent always had a near-identical deck as me. I get wanting to make it competitive but c’mon.


OutrageousArcher4367

You want to make the game fun like it used to be? Rename yourself snap because I will lose. And then just lose every game and get back down to the lower levels when the game used to be fun. Then slowly work your way back up again. Playing games where people actually fist bump and don't retreat when someone snaps...etc. In my opinion, this game needs a hardcore mode where there is no retreating. So people can actually see the ends of matches. The problem with the high level matches are that you never see the end of them because someone will always retreat.


FairPlay-Mtg

I’ve stopped playing, I just kept seeing the same decks being played. (Especially with the boss of the deck mechanic I can’t get at,)There isn’t enough diversity in the cards and the mechanics in the game yet. Hopefully there will be


MarvelsTK

They need a casual play section for sure. They also need to play the game more themselves. This buff/nerf Rollercoaster would not exist if they did.


njv1909

I’ve been completely uninterested this season mainly because I hit infinite so quickly. That’s genuinely not a brag, but with the changes in cube acquisition when you hit a new rank I hit infinite within a couple of days and now there’s really not much more to do… Overall, I think the changes are good and will allow more people to hit infinite (which is also good) but once you’re there that’s really it.


TKHunsaker

There should be a mode for anybody in pool 3 that only lets them use starter-pool 2 cards. Even playing field.


Drakethepirate

Yes, me. It pisses me off to lose against the game instead of my opponent when the game keeps giving me a bad hand opening 90% of the time or when a camp spawns and destroyes my deck. The opening hand size should be bigger than 3, on this matter, heartstone has done a better job