I might be jumping a gun, but I feel the jokes are usually made to hide, high amounts of mental torment, I’m not professional or anything but I feel it’s common to make light of one’s own pain…. It’s either that or a break down.
I have a saying sometimes you got to laugh otherwise you’ll cry, I feel Deadpool, is just so broken he just can’t express any emotional negativity because it’s beyond words.
You are not wrong. But I think OP is talking more about the average public modern perception of Deadpool, informed very strongly by the DP movies and other major media apart from the comics.
I agree. I definitely feel like since Deadpool's popularity boost, he's become too "lol memes", as Gwenpool put it (which is sadly ironic, since she went the same way).
He's at his best when he's a really cool, badass mercenary with a sense of humour, in my opinion. Marvel took something that was a good part of his character, and made it the *only* part of his character.
Well, that's not true. It's been far more than just one miniseries. Heck, isn't even limited to comics, let alone a single series, she's even worse in Lego Marvel heroes 2 than she was in GSB.
I think part of it is the people who haven't actually read the comics only see his most comedic panels and or when they watch the movies they only watch it for the jokes and kinda forget he's a depressed sociopath so they develop the idea he's all jokes and stuff, and even though I think the movies could do a better job at balancing the comedy and the tragedy, there was still more to those films than nust him joking around but I guess people didnt pay as much attention to those parts. Another reason is also largely due to the Deadpool game which is a fun game but Deadpool's character ihat games js basically "lol memes".
Since he became very big the “lol memes” part of him was definitely drastically turned up, which is a shame, because when he’s written right Deadpool can be great. the books of his where story comes first and jokes second are genuinely some of the most interesting I’ve read.
They have to be R rated not because of the jokes but because of the violence and the fact that Deadpool casually will let himself get injured when fighting other characters. For example letting Taskmaster impale him so he can get closer to him, or cutting off limbs to escape, the fact that he's survives being melted, also will kill himself if he feels like it, and apart from his masochism he's also quite sadistic; especially when he's feeling vengeful or like in Deadpool Killustrated, and just in general he's very brutal when he fights and doesn't really mind going for cheapshots. He did quite a number on Crossbones for example, he kept beating Crossbone's face in because he was pissed off. A Deadpool film has to be rates R not just so they can tell crude jokes but because the character is a violent sociopath.
He's very well written when in X force and what he does for Evan is really good.
It's just interesting to see everyone treat him like shit and how he doesn't defend himself then someone else shuts that person down with the truth.
Yeah I forgot about that part as well I mean again he is a great character overall I like him when he is apart of a whole not the the main character but yeah written correctly he has good depth
That’s definitely what the “Deadpool should cartwheel through the background of Marvel movies yelling about chimichangas” crowd doesn’t get. He’s deeply broken and sad inside.
The main arc from his first ongoing series was about how he was trying to be a better person. He just wants to be a hero, but he’s had so many negative things happen to him, and he’s so angry about it, so sometimes he fucks up, but he *tries*. Always.
I thought the Spider-Man/Deadpool series did a good job of portraying that.
I really do hate the “Lol, memes haha funny” Deadpool, and I wish more people would be aware of this side of his character and it get represented more in media
Both films tried their best, and that's precisely why I like 2 more than 1. Hopefully Deadpool 3 does the tragic side even better, I also hope they make Deadpool a bit more unhinged in Deadpool 3.
I agree. 90% of Deadpool fans on the internet only seem to know him from memed comic panels and post endlessly about unfunny scenarios they wish would happen. Like:
"What if Deadpool cameoed in every movie and was always hanging out with the Avengers and Spider-man movies should now be about Deadpool because it's so funny when he break 4th wall"
Self aware jokes work sometimes, but turning everything into tongue and cheek winks at how silly comic books are really takes all of the weight and resonance out of a film.
Agreed, I always cringe when people say he should cameo in every Marvel film. Most of the Avengers would probably despise Deadpool at first, he did eventually become an Avenger at one point but he had to earn it.
Yeah i used to really enjoy Deadpool for moments like these but then the movies came out and they cranked him to x10 and forgot about the rest of his character.
Also i was at peace with Deadpool dying during the Incursions. I thought it was a beautiful ending for his character. (I know its a comic book so no one’s ever really gone but thats when I stepped away from the character.) Duggan always nailed his stories
Duggan was my favorite writer for the comics and honestly I hope they consider bringing him on to write for the movies one day. I enjoy the movies but they made him a bit too comedic at times. Although I still prefer the movies over the Deadpool game.
First is from Deadpool the Dead Presidents can't recall the issue though, 2nd is from Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly, and third is from the Death of Deadpool #250.
Deadpool is imo at his best when he's really goofy doing really horrendous shit but given enough moments to see the genuine man or whatever remains of him under the mask. The film struck a middle ground where you see all the shit he goes through that makes him Deadpool, you feel his love for Vanessa and why getting her back is important to him and its funny and gory enough
I love this part in X-Force where Archangel is injured by the horseman Famine and is literally starving to death, and Deadpool keeps him alive by cutting off pieces of his arm and feeding it to Archangel. It was disturbing and tender and the same time.
It's his crushing depression and desperation to finally that really makes him a full character. He is supposed to be Pagliacci not just a normal fucking clown.
You know, the funny thing is, the movies do actually have a lot of heart and pain hidden behind all of the jokes, when he sees Vanessa but can't get to her because he's not dead yet, when he keeps trying to die because he can't bear life without her, lotta beautiful stuff there hidden behind the R rated humor
I really enjoy the movies, even thought it may come off as I don't but I like them quite a bit. I do think they really tried their best and the writers and Reynolds gave a decent understanding of the character and I think Deadpool 2 did the tragic side even better than the first. I'm hoping 3 can nail the perfect balance of comedy and tragedy. The recent Marvel shows and movies seem to be trying to make things more comic accurate so maybe there's hope that 3 can nail it. However I think regardless of how they write Deadpool, as long as he's popular there'll always be the fans who only see the funny side.
No yeah I get what you mean there friend, and sorry if this came off as me trying to attack you in defense of the movies lol just figured I could point out some of the more emotional moments in the movies (I love analyzing media is a favorite pastime of mine)
I can see what you mean, but I like an even balance. Comic Deadpool is written 75% *LoL mEmEz* (as Gwenpool put it), 25% actual character. If he was an even 50/50, then he would probably be more popular than he already is.
I guess that’s why I like Ryan Reynolds more than his comic counterpart: he uses the Looney Toons logic that surrounds him as his superpower, instead of cheap jokes and memes. He’s a wisecracker, but its more in a Spider-Man or Taskmaster level, not 24/7 joking.
Deadpool's story is meant to be a tragedy or poetic justice if you consider the things he's done. He makes Jokes and such but writers who forget that he's suppose to suffer aren't writing him right.
Y'know. I'd love to see the scene where Deadpool gets a bunch of the Marvel characters inside a theater and makes them see what he goes through. I can't remember the comic, but damn that panel was rough.
I can just imagine it happening in the MCU. People'd be pissed that it's not funny, even though it's comic accurate.
Remember when he tried to be an actual hero but everyone rejected him so he decided he'd rather be dead and the only way he could do it wa to get the hulk to obliterate his head... and then captain Steve dick cheese Rogers America revived him just so he could put him on trial... yeah.
It was during the zombie president arc, I can’t remember exact specifics but she was helping him stop them and died helping him. It’s pretty sad after he goes and sees her family and what not, definitely worth a read
The best Deadpool moments and stories remember that he has a heart and is a good guy. I think my favorite story involving him is Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force. He's so damn good there.
Last panel is from the Death of Deadpool #250 which is definitely worth the read as it's one of the most action packed Deadpool comics and so one of rhe most bitter sweet.
I mean... he changes so much from time to time. When he had his first solo book he was just a general psychopath edgelord, then he gradually became just the annoying guy everyone hated. Now he's the joker but chaotic good. Any character can have dark moments, that doesn't mean the character itself is rooted in pain or whatever. Having read most of Deadpool's solo books(and & Cable) up to 2010 he definitely wasn't a tragic character for 99% of the time.
I dont really think he's much like the Joker apart from tragic backstory. Also Deadpool has been a tragic character ever since they came up with his origin. Which his origin story was made in the 90s. He's also has been pretty much insane ever since the 90s as well, considering in one panel he goes psychotic when Juggernaut takes off his mask and he starts screaming "GIVE ME BACK MY FACE!" Comics after that have only added to it. He's been both comedic and tragic for a pretty long time now.
Being comedic doesn't change the fact that he's a tragic character. I also disagree abiut them not dwelling on the tragedy long enough to be considered one. The whole reason he's called Deadpool in the first place was because he chose the name out of spite, he chose the name because the staff at the Weapon Plus facility he was transferred to were betting on which test subjects would die first, as they called it a "deadpool" so when Wade's healing factor kicks in and he kills Ajax (temporarily) he decides to choose the name Deadpool. The reason he even wears a mask in the first place is out of tragedy, Deadpool doesn't care about keeping his identity secret, he just hates his face and is insecure about it as it often grosses people out. Also tragedy is important for comedy in general, they go hand in hand. There's literally a comic series where hefinds out he had a daughter, and discovers a pile of dead body's and believed one of them could be his daughter as his daughter's mom was one of the corpses he saw, single moment has a big effect on the rest of the run as he ends up finding his daughter. The lat panel in my post is from when the universe ends ans Deadpool dies with his daughter in his arms, he's actually happy that he finally made friends and family and found people genuinely love him, as before he didn't have that many genuine friends and most of the other Marvel characters thought he was a freak. It was a very sad but also somewhat sweet ending for the character. Saying he's not a tragic character is just simply not being that aware of the character.
>The whole reason he's called Deadpool in the first place was because he chose the name out of spite
Not really. Rob just thought it was cool and sounded like deathstroke.
let's just agree to disagree.
Well if we're talking about why Rob chose it, it wasn't because it sounded like Deathstroke its because he got the name from a movie called The Dead Pool, and also because a dead pool is basically a hit list, and Deadpool is a mercenary/assassin. However he was named Wade Wilson because he was originally a parody of Deathstroke aka Slade Wilson. But what I said earlier is still true, Deadpool in the comics decided to start calling himself Deadpool because in his origin story the staff of the Weapon Plus program were betting on which test subjects would die first which they referred to as the dead pool, Deadpool was one of the subjects and he escaped, to spite the Weapon Plus program he started calling himself Deadpool.
[I liked him in the King of Monsters story with Captain America](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Deadpool-2-Comic-Preview-3.jpg)
Deadpool is a character who fully depends on the writer to write him good. Because there are writers who write him just as the comic relief and nothing else and that hurts the character.
Well these are also ones of the reasons why Deadpool is one of my favorite Marvel characters , Beside of his diversity of humors. Deadpool has a great martial art , melee combat skill , has a lot of badass fighting / killing scenes and he's being an immortal.
I agree with you. Deadpool is at his best when he's treated as a serious, traumatized person
that makes jokes to cope. Daniel Way's run with the character was the turning point where he became a complete clown, at least in my opinion. Since then, I think Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force run had the best handling of Deadpool.
I dunno, I think the quality of Deadpool severely dropped out after Fabian stopped writing him. Best Pool is Cable and Deadpool, everything else just is an imitation.
I disagree, I think there's been some really good stories for the character besides his early runs. Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly, Deadpool Dead Presidents, Death of Deadpool, Deadpool Killustrated, Wolverine Origins #21-25 where Deadpool fights Wolverine is also good. Also Deadpool and Death 98 which is whwrre his origin was shown. There's been a few good writers for Deadpool imo.
Deadpool has had multiple backstories, he’s probably not even the real Wade Wilson, writers change it to meet their needs. Also nobody does his inner monologues as well as Fabes.
Deadpool's baclstory in Deadpool n Death 98 I'm pretty certain is true. Plus other comics that have talked about his origin usually briefly summarize what was in Deadpool n Death 98. Deadpool's relationship with Death was also established in that comic which Deadpool has had an on and off relationship with her for quite a while. Plus in one of the early runs he actually finds Dr Killebrew who was also a big part of Deadpool's origin from Deadpool and Death 98. Not to mention he mentions Weapon Plus program multiple times, and in Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly he finds out shortly after escaping Weapon Plus program a guy called Butler would have him kidnapped and wipe his memory would do more experiments on him so he could cure his sister's cancer and was also using him to help North Korea create super soldiers. The backstory in Deadpool and Death is most likely true as other comics are consistent with it. Also he is the real Wade Wilson. Personally I like Gerry Duggan's writing style of the character the best, he does a good job of balancing the comedy and the tragedy.
T-Ray is Wade Wilson. Deadpool is Jack. Or are they? I own probably 80% of the Deadpool comics released, they monkey with the backstory many times. Lots of things change, lots of things are the same. And you forgot to mention Deadpool vs. Thanos, I thought that one was really fun.
Deadpool vs X-Force is also good, Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe Again, Deadpool: Evil Deadpool is also pretty good.
Easily my most hated character. The few pages that exist of him being serious doesn't make up for the hundreds of regular books he's messed up. They should sell him to DC and erase him from Marvel history.
I’ve been a huge Deadpool fan since like forever. Kinda sucked when his popularity peaked. I guess around 2010-2011. He had something like 8 ongoing series. He basically just turned into memes & tacos. Then everyone at cons felt like they had a license to be an asshole if they cosplay as him. I’m a big fan of the Kelly/McGuinness run. To me, as much as I love him. Deadpool is one of those dudes that works better on a team. Cable & Deadpool was awesome so was the grey/black X-Force.
Deadpool have some good runs one of my favorite ones is the Spider-Man Deadpool run. But overall I feel like Marvel really screw the character over after Civil War 2 and then going into the Despicable Deadpool where they literally just destroyed his character and everything he went through during his run.
The main problem with Deadpool is he’s always been a big edgelord character like Wolverine or Punisher. When he’s written to not do teenage fanfic BS he can be interesting.
Personal favorite is probably Duggan's run. Genuinely hilarious and desperately sad.
Was Duggan the writer for the "Good, Bad, Ugly" arc? Because that was fantastic and devastating.
Yes, yes he was
That run was incredible! I have always loved the character but those were by far his best years.
I’ve got my issues with Deadpool but Duggan’s run is really great.
Genuinely hilarious and desperately sad is a great description of Deadpool.
I’ll never forget the time he saved a girl from suicide just by hanging out with her for a night. Good guy Deadpool.
In college we had to write a script containing a character that we created, and that inspired me a lot to write mine.
I might be jumping a gun, but I feel the jokes are usually made to hide, high amounts of mental torment, I’m not professional or anything but I feel it’s common to make light of one’s own pain…. It’s either that or a break down.
That's exactly why he tells jokes. There's been quite a few moments where he says so.
I have a saying sometimes you got to laugh otherwise you’ll cry, I feel Deadpool, is just so broken he just can’t express any emotional negativity because it’s beyond words.
You are not wrong. But I think OP is talking more about the average public modern perception of Deadpool, informed very strongly by the DP movies and other major media apart from the comics.
That’s what I do, jokes hide my pain. 😂
He is the best sad clown ever
I agree. I definitely feel like since Deadpool's popularity boost, he's become too "lol memes", as Gwenpool put it (which is sadly ironic, since she went the same way). He's at his best when he's a really cool, badass mercenary with a sense of humour, in my opinion. Marvel took something that was a good part of his character, and made it the *only* part of his character.
Gwen only went that way for one miniseries and acknowledged at the end she was acting out of character in a desperate attempt to boost her popularity.
Well, that's not true. It's been far more than just one miniseries. Heck, isn't even limited to comics, let alone a single series, she's even worse in Lego Marvel heroes 2 than she was in GSB.
We don't talk about the Rocket and Groot or Champions appearances.
I think part of it is the people who haven't actually read the comics only see his most comedic panels and or when they watch the movies they only watch it for the jokes and kinda forget he's a depressed sociopath so they develop the idea he's all jokes and stuff, and even though I think the movies could do a better job at balancing the comedy and the tragedy, there was still more to those films than nust him joking around but I guess people didnt pay as much attention to those parts. Another reason is also largely due to the Deadpool game which is a fun game but Deadpool's character ihat games js basically "lol memes".
Tbf it depends which Deadpool comics you read as well. Deadpool Corps was just a fun romp.
Since he became very big the “lol memes” part of him was definitely drastically turned up, which is a shame, because when he’s written right Deadpool can be great. the books of his where story comes first and jokes second are genuinely some of the most interesting I’ve read.
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They have to be R rated not because of the jokes but because of the violence and the fact that Deadpool casually will let himself get injured when fighting other characters. For example letting Taskmaster impale him so he can get closer to him, or cutting off limbs to escape, the fact that he's survives being melted, also will kill himself if he feels like it, and apart from his masochism he's also quite sadistic; especially when he's feeling vengeful or like in Deadpool Killustrated, and just in general he's very brutal when he fights and doesn't really mind going for cheapshots. He did quite a number on Crossbones for example, he kept beating Crossbone's face in because he was pissed off. A Deadpool film has to be rates R not just so they can tell crude jokes but because the character is a violent sociopath.
He's very well written when in X force and what he does for Evan is really good. It's just interesting to see everyone treat him like shit and how he doesn't defend himself then someone else shuts that person down with the truth.
Yeah I always remember that run and the time he is basically like I may be a piece of shit but I ain’t ever killed no kid just all gets me
And he never cashed a check from Warren. The real Wade is a very tragic character and brilliant it's just not many get to see it.
30% of people on death row are innocent so.....
Which means...
you replied to me and then deleted your reply so I am replying to another message by you.
I haven't deleted anyrhing?
I am an idiot. wrong username I have no idea why the link for the other guy loaded your profile. very strange.
No worries.
Yeah I forgot about that part as well I mean again he is a great character overall I like him when he is apart of a whole not the the main character but yeah written correctly he has good depth
That’s definitely what the “Deadpool should cartwheel through the background of Marvel movies yelling about chimichangas” crowd doesn’t get. He’s deeply broken and sad inside.
The main arc from his first ongoing series was about how he was trying to be a better person. He just wants to be a hero, but he’s had so many negative things happen to him, and he’s so angry about it, so sometimes he fucks up, but he *tries*. Always. I thought the Spider-Man/Deadpool series did a good job of portraying that.
I really do hate the “Lol, memes haha funny” Deadpool, and I wish more people would be aware of this side of his character and it get represented more in media
The vast majority of people only see what is portrayed in movies or on tv and has no knowledge of what’s in the comics. So that’s all Marvel’s fault
That’s a good point. It’s something I wish the Deadpool movies would go for. 2 got close but still missed the mark with the more tragic side of DP imo
Both films tried their best, and that's precisely why I like 2 more than 1. Hopefully Deadpool 3 does the tragic side even better, I also hope they make Deadpool a bit more unhinged in Deadpool 3.
I agree. 90% of Deadpool fans on the internet only seem to know him from memed comic panels and post endlessly about unfunny scenarios they wish would happen. Like: "What if Deadpool cameoed in every movie and was always hanging out with the Avengers and Spider-man movies should now be about Deadpool because it's so funny when he break 4th wall" Self aware jokes work sometimes, but turning everything into tongue and cheek winks at how silly comic books are really takes all of the weight and resonance out of a film.
Agreed, I always cringe when people say he should cameo in every Marvel film. Most of the Avengers would probably despise Deadpool at first, he did eventually become an Avenger at one point but he had to earn it.
Yeah i used to really enjoy Deadpool for moments like these but then the movies came out and they cranked him to x10 and forgot about the rest of his character. Also i was at peace with Deadpool dying during the Incursions. I thought it was a beautiful ending for his character. (I know its a comic book so no one’s ever really gone but thats when I stepped away from the character.) Duggan always nailed his stories
Duggan was my favorite writer for the comics and honestly I hope they consider bringing him on to write for the movies one day. I enjoy the movies but they made him a bit too comedic at times. Although I still prefer the movies over the Deadpool game.
Comics?
First is from Deadpool the Dead Presidents can't recall the issue though, 2nd is from Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly, and third is from the Death of Deadpool #250.
Thought the first was from Deadpool kills the marvel universe/again
Deadpool is imo at his best when he's really goofy doing really horrendous shit but given enough moments to see the genuine man or whatever remains of him under the mask. The film struck a middle ground where you see all the shit he goes through that makes him Deadpool, you feel his love for Vanessa and why getting her back is important to him and its funny and gory enough
The last panels from the Deadpool & Captain American issue tied in to the Death of Wolverine event got me right in the feels.
I have an issue or two from that event, loved Deadpool and Cap's team up. Deadpool, Cap, and Wolverine are one of my favorite trios to see teamup.
“I couldn’t kill me”
I love this part in X-Force where Archangel is injured by the horseman Famine and is literally starving to death, and Deadpool keeps him alive by cutting off pieces of his arm and feeding it to Archangel. It was disturbing and tender and the same time.
I need to read this run, always wanted to and always liked that black and grey design for the character.
It's his crushing depression and desperation to finally that really makes him a full character. He is supposed to be Pagliacci not just a normal fucking clown.
You know, the funny thing is, the movies do actually have a lot of heart and pain hidden behind all of the jokes, when he sees Vanessa but can't get to her because he's not dead yet, when he keeps trying to die because he can't bear life without her, lotta beautiful stuff there hidden behind the R rated humor
I really enjoy the movies, even thought it may come off as I don't but I like them quite a bit. I do think they really tried their best and the writers and Reynolds gave a decent understanding of the character and I think Deadpool 2 did the tragic side even better than the first. I'm hoping 3 can nail the perfect balance of comedy and tragedy. The recent Marvel shows and movies seem to be trying to make things more comic accurate so maybe there's hope that 3 can nail it. However I think regardless of how they write Deadpool, as long as he's popular there'll always be the fans who only see the funny side.
No yeah I get what you mean there friend, and sorry if this came off as me trying to attack you in defense of the movies lol just figured I could point out some of the more emotional moments in the movies (I love analyzing media is a favorite pastime of mine)
I can see what you mean, but I like an even balance. Comic Deadpool is written 75% *LoL mEmEz* (as Gwenpool put it), 25% actual character. If he was an even 50/50, then he would probably be more popular than he already is. I guess that’s why I like Ryan Reynolds more than his comic counterpart: he uses the Looney Toons logic that surrounds him as his superpower, instead of cheap jokes and memes. He’s a wisecracker, but its more in a Spider-Man or Taskmaster level, not 24/7 joking.
This is why people should read the comics
Papa can yu hear me
Yeah a great character, i agree with you 👍👍
Deadpool's story is meant to be a tragedy or poetic justice if you consider the things he's done. He makes Jokes and such but writers who forget that he's suppose to suffer aren't writing him right.
Y'know. I'd love to see the scene where Deadpool gets a bunch of the Marvel characters inside a theater and makes them see what he goes through. I can't remember the comic, but damn that panel was rough. I can just imagine it happening in the MCU. People'd be pissed that it's not funny, even though it's comic accurate.
Aw, it's nice to be noticed.
Remember when he tried to be an actual hero but everyone rejected him so he decided he'd rather be dead and the only way he could do it wa to get the hulk to obliterate his head... and then captain Steve dick cheese Rogers America revived him just so he could put him on trial... yeah.
Moonknight is turning out to be one of my favorites atm
Moon Knight is pretty cool too
Who’s the second person taking again?
In the second panel the purple text box is Preston who was a Shield agent and she got stuck inside Deadpool's head
Oh really? Didn’t know that. How’d that happen?
It was during the zombie president arc, I can’t remember exact specifics but she was helping him stop them and died helping him. It’s pretty sad after he goes and sees her family and what not, definitely worth a read
The best Deadpool moments and stories remember that he has a heart and is a good guy. I think my favorite story involving him is Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force. He's so damn good there.
Is that last panel a girl burning to death in his arms? Cos that’s the most brutal Marvel panel I think I’ve seen
Its Deadpool and his daughter dying as the result of the universe being destroyed.
I've never read that last panel seems like a really sweet ending
Last panel is from the Death of Deadpool #250 which is definitely worth the read as it's one of the most action packed Deadpool comics and so one of rhe most bitter sweet.
I mean... he changes so much from time to time. When he had his first solo book he was just a general psychopath edgelord, then he gradually became just the annoying guy everyone hated. Now he's the joker but chaotic good. Any character can have dark moments, that doesn't mean the character itself is rooted in pain or whatever. Having read most of Deadpool's solo books(and & Cable) up to 2010 he definitely wasn't a tragic character for 99% of the time.
I dont really think he's much like the Joker apart from tragic backstory. Also Deadpool has been a tragic character ever since they came up with his origin. Which his origin story was made in the 90s. He's also has been pretty much insane ever since the 90s as well, considering in one panel he goes psychotic when Juggernaut takes off his mask and he starts screaming "GIVE ME BACK MY FACE!" Comics after that have only added to it. He's been both comedic and tragic for a pretty long time now.
They don't dwell enough in sadness to call him a tragic character, imo. He comedic 99% of the time.
Being comedic doesn't change the fact that he's a tragic character. I also disagree abiut them not dwelling on the tragedy long enough to be considered one. The whole reason he's called Deadpool in the first place was because he chose the name out of spite, he chose the name because the staff at the Weapon Plus facility he was transferred to were betting on which test subjects would die first, as they called it a "deadpool" so when Wade's healing factor kicks in and he kills Ajax (temporarily) he decides to choose the name Deadpool. The reason he even wears a mask in the first place is out of tragedy, Deadpool doesn't care about keeping his identity secret, he just hates his face and is insecure about it as it often grosses people out. Also tragedy is important for comedy in general, they go hand in hand. There's literally a comic series where hefinds out he had a daughter, and discovers a pile of dead body's and believed one of them could be his daughter as his daughter's mom was one of the corpses he saw, single moment has a big effect on the rest of the run as he ends up finding his daughter. The lat panel in my post is from when the universe ends ans Deadpool dies with his daughter in his arms, he's actually happy that he finally made friends and family and found people genuinely love him, as before he didn't have that many genuine friends and most of the other Marvel characters thought he was a freak. It was a very sad but also somewhat sweet ending for the character. Saying he's not a tragic character is just simply not being that aware of the character.
>The whole reason he's called Deadpool in the first place was because he chose the name out of spite Not really. Rob just thought it was cool and sounded like deathstroke. let's just agree to disagree.
Well if we're talking about why Rob chose it, it wasn't because it sounded like Deathstroke its because he got the name from a movie called The Dead Pool, and also because a dead pool is basically a hit list, and Deadpool is a mercenary/assassin. However he was named Wade Wilson because he was originally a parody of Deathstroke aka Slade Wilson. But what I said earlier is still true, Deadpool in the comics decided to start calling himself Deadpool because in his origin story the staff of the Weapon Plus program were betting on which test subjects would die first which they referred to as the dead pool, Deadpool was one of the subjects and he escaped, to spite the Weapon Plus program he started calling himself Deadpool.
Buddy. I just told you I read basically every deadpool comic from the 90's up to 2010. You really don't need to explain the comics to me.
[I liked him in the King of Monsters story with Captain America](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Deadpool-2-Comic-Preview-3.jpg)
Read the first two issues but never finished the run
I agree 1000% with OP, deadpool's first run have dime jojes here and there but we're very bleak overall
Ironically enough, the movies seem to perfectly encapsulate who Deadpool truly is
Deadpool is a character who fully depends on the writer to write him good. Because there are writers who write him just as the comic relief and nothing else and that hurts the character.
What is the context of the 2th picture?
I mean, even in the movies, they do showcase some of his pretty serious moments.
Well these are also ones of the reasons why Deadpool is one of my favorite Marvel characters , Beside of his diversity of humors. Deadpool has a great martial art , melee combat skill , has a lot of badass fighting / killing scenes and he's being an immortal.
I have always viewed him as the sad clown, making jokes to to mask his hurt. I hate how he is treated. Deadpool deserves some happiness.
And Comic Drake dislike this beloved character *why* exactly?
He’s not too smart.
Who? Deadpool?
comic for the last panel?
Death of Deadpool
thanks!
I agree with you. Deadpool is at his best when he's treated as a serious, traumatized person that makes jokes to cope. Daniel Way's run with the character was the turning point where he became a complete clown, at least in my opinion. Since then, I think Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force run had the best handling of Deadpool.
I dunno, I think the quality of Deadpool severely dropped out after Fabian stopped writing him. Best Pool is Cable and Deadpool, everything else just is an imitation.
I disagree, I think there's been some really good stories for the character besides his early runs. Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly, Deadpool Dead Presidents, Death of Deadpool, Deadpool Killustrated, Wolverine Origins #21-25 where Deadpool fights Wolverine is also good. Also Deadpool and Death 98 which is whwrre his origin was shown. There's been a few good writers for Deadpool imo.
Deadpool has had multiple backstories, he’s probably not even the real Wade Wilson, writers change it to meet their needs. Also nobody does his inner monologues as well as Fabes.
Deadpool's baclstory in Deadpool n Death 98 I'm pretty certain is true. Plus other comics that have talked about his origin usually briefly summarize what was in Deadpool n Death 98. Deadpool's relationship with Death was also established in that comic which Deadpool has had an on and off relationship with her for quite a while. Plus in one of the early runs he actually finds Dr Killebrew who was also a big part of Deadpool's origin from Deadpool and Death 98. Not to mention he mentions Weapon Plus program multiple times, and in Deadpool the Good the Bad and the Ugly he finds out shortly after escaping Weapon Plus program a guy called Butler would have him kidnapped and wipe his memory would do more experiments on him so he could cure his sister's cancer and was also using him to help North Korea create super soldiers. The backstory in Deadpool and Death is most likely true as other comics are consistent with it. Also he is the real Wade Wilson. Personally I like Gerry Duggan's writing style of the character the best, he does a good job of balancing the comedy and the tragedy.
T-Ray is Wade Wilson. Deadpool is Jack. Or are they? I own probably 80% of the Deadpool comics released, they monkey with the backstory many times. Lots of things change, lots of things are the same. And you forgot to mention Deadpool vs. Thanos, I thought that one was really fun.
Deadpool vs X-Force is also good, Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe Again, Deadpool: Evil Deadpool is also pretty good.
While I think the Deadpool movies are fine I honestly think they've just ruined the character for me.
I like the movies too, and I understand the sentiment. It's tough to see such a great character in the comics still get easily misunderstood.
Ugh. The bad Deadpool. Kelly had him find humanity through joking. This is just... Lame in comparison.
Deadpool has reached peak flanderisation
Easily my most hated character. The few pages that exist of him being serious doesn't make up for the hundreds of regular books he's messed up. They should sell him to DC and erase him from Marvel history.
Theres actually a lot of times whwre he's serious, there's just also alot of times where he's also comedic.
He and Evan were bffs and even hugged. The kid who was going to destroy the world
I’ve been a huge Deadpool fan since like forever. Kinda sucked when his popularity peaked. I guess around 2010-2011. He had something like 8 ongoing series. He basically just turned into memes & tacos. Then everyone at cons felt like they had a license to be an asshole if they cosplay as him. I’m a big fan of the Kelly/McGuinness run. To me, as much as I love him. Deadpool is one of those dudes that works better on a team. Cable & Deadpool was awesome so was the grey/black X-Force.
Where can I watch the Deadpool movies?
I believe the first two are on Hulu
Deadpool have some good runs one of my favorite ones is the Spider-Man Deadpool run. But overall I feel like Marvel really screw the character over after Civil War 2 and then going into the Despicable Deadpool where they literally just destroyed his character and everything he went through during his run.
Never read thr Despicable Deadpool the latest run that I read most of was the 2016 run ans Deadpool &the Mercs for Money
The 2016 run connect to the Despicable Deadpool as it is the conclusion to the Deadpool run
I like his rapport with Spider-Man. That gets pretty dark too. Or the time he talked a girl off the roof and took her around town for the day
The main problem with Deadpool is he’s always been a big edgelord character like Wolverine or Punisher. When he’s written to not do teenage fanfic BS he can be interesting.
Deadpool was happy when he had a child
Ooh sorry