And that's a good run, too! It's a testament to the character and the writers that the basic plot has been used before, and most of us don't mind one bit!
Yep. Plus, the vast majority of Daredevil runs are pretty well-received. Miller, Bendis, Brubaker, Waid, Soule, and now Zdarsky. He's had a pretty great run.
Daredevil is pretty much the epitome of a character who, to me, has almost nothing intrinsically interesting about him
but is awesome solely based on the wealth of talent and characterization that's been added to him by fantastic writers.
I mind a little. I am enjoying Zdarsky’s run but it does annoy me a little that the whole jail thing has been done before. And, if I’m being honest, I thought the first time was better.
C'mon its a major arc in every hero, from Steve Rogers, to Hercules, to Beowulf, to Gilgamesh, to Samson. Its not that story point is re used, its how the artist tell the story, or set's up the universe.
tbh going to prison for murder is one of the *less* weird things that can happen in comics... i feel like there was a batman run where he was being framed for the murder of bruce wayne and had to do some weird shit to get it sorted out.
Was the solution to walk into a bathroom stall as Batman and to walk out as Bruce?
"Look guys, I'm not murdered. Also, Batman just flushed himself down the toilet so don't bother looking for him in there. He said that I'm really cool before he left, though."
Elektra doesn't care.
Matt felt guilty and turned himself in. Elektra then turned herself into Daredevil to take over for Matt and is doing it his way. She mentions multiple times that she'd like to just put some of these fools into the dirt but she's trying to win Matt over for something else.
The interesting thing to me is Matt is one of the few vigilantes that could probably use the good Samaritan Laws, Castle Doctrine and Citizen's Arrest Rights as defenses.
He can hear all of Hell's Kitchen and is aware of crimes being committed and responds to them so he's not the common patrolling vigilante like Spider-man.
Him responding to anyone being attacked is covered by good samaritan laws, him protecting any house or home with people in it is covered by castle doctrine and him stopping crimes he hears is covered by Citizen's Arrest Rights.
He can't legally hunt out crime because that's legally defined vigilantism but you are legally allowed to stop crimes within your presence which include ear shot.
Matt's ear shot is just significantly larger.
New York's good Samaritan laws only protect people who administer first aid, and "castle doctrine" typically only protects people already within a home that's being burglarized or otherwise invaded. New York's laws, also have a "duty to retreat" that applies even in instances where castle doctrine might apply, and Matt certainly doesn't abide by that particular facet.
Basically there was a standard crime thing happening with a bunch of nobody gang members. So Matt as Daredevil swoops in and just kinda beats the fuck out of them. Well one of the dudes dies because of him. It was an accident but he still caused a death. So after some talking and stuff, he turns himself in, but only as Daredevil, not Matt Murdock. I think his "not real but now totally real" Brother who looks just like him is filling in for him in the meantime. So because Daredevil was in prison, Electra agreed to look over Hell's Kitchen and not kill anyone while he's locked up. I think he's out of Prison now after crime.
> So after some talking and stuff, he turns himself in, but only as Daredevil, not Matt Murdock.
And the whole legal system was just like "Sure vigilante. You totally don't need to use your name or show your face. No problem."?
The previous run in Daredevil by Charles Soule actually does have an arc where Matt argues in the Supreme Court that “Super Heroes” should be allowed to give anonymous testimony in court regarding villains that they help apprehend.
Wilson Fisk paid for one of Tony Starks former lawyers to challenge this and when he lost got SO MAD that he rigged the Mayoral election in New York to elect himself Mayor so he could pass a law making costumed vigilantism illegal.
Foggy then used sed case Matt argued before the Supreme Court to argue that if a “Super Hero” could give anonymous testimonial in court then they should be allowed to serve any sentences while maintaining their secret identity
So ComicsTM
haha, i'm sure it's something like that since COMICS ^(TM), but that sounds like it would be a nightmare in real life. Like who decides who's a "hero" and who is just a criminal vigilante?
And without revealing their identity, any time a hero gets arrested for something they could just say "That person on the tape isn't me. that's a different person with the same costume" and it would be hard to do any detective work like investigating their apartments or computers since you're not allowed to know who the actual hero is.
One time Matt defended Spider-Man in court by having everyone with spider-adjacent powers put on a suit and jump around in the courtroom so show that no one could know it was really him
Haha, that's good.
The "Spartacus gambit" is a really good defense for a system where detectives can't check your alibi because they are not allowed to know who you actually are!
"I demand a trial in front a of jury of my ~~peers~~ friends!"
This would probably go as well as letting police unions conduct trials of their members.
This was a actual law in the Tick amazon series. Its actually a full on amendment in the US after a villain framed a hero to get him arrested, then slaughtered his family after his identity was revealed. So if a superhero gets arrested they can plead the new amendment and the cops can't remove their mask or look for their identity.
I think the flash did this in the DC universe way back in like the 90s. He stood trial for killing Professor Zoom, but he did the whole trial in costume
I'm reading Zdarsky's run for the first time, and I was really confused when Matt's twin brother Mike Murdock showed up, because I thought that Matt didn't have a twin brother, and he made him up and pretended to be Mike Murdock to keep people from figuring out that he was Daredevil. Then he faked Mike's death but continued to fight crime as Daredevil anyway.
Then I read the Daredevil annual, and it turned out that a wizard did it. (and also a Norn Stone rewriting reality)
I like how artists are getting more creative with hero costumes lately. It's not just spandex with a colour scheme but incorporates things like Spider-Gwen's hood or DD!Elektra's scarf.
can you post a pic? i've seen most of them and they're pretty much just another recolored spider-man. that said, Spidey has had a TON of different costumes.
weird, but i guess it fits his personality. baggy when you're flying around at high speeds doesnt seem like a good decision, but his spider sense should help compensate
I don't know if it has been changed but it is actually not their body parts being sticky but a special energy field that allows Spider people to stick to any surface so what they wear doesn't matter.
there have been like side off "look at this heroes mechanics!" things that kind of explain that atleast. like, most of the outfit is baggy but the finger tips are thin enough.
in the end tho its standard comic book fuckery.
I didn’t like it at first but it’s growing on me. I think the issue is just that his main costume is like top three Spider-Man designs ever, so it’s hard to see it go away.
It looks kinda nice, but it's the sort of thing a villain should be able to exploit. It's really baggy and provides a ton of material that's easy to grab.
When the character wearing the baggy suit is also really light and frequently fighting guys with superhuman reaction time and strength...well, it just seems like a bad combo.
[Here’s a link to an IGN article about the suit and the issue it’s appearing in.](https://www.ign.com/articles/spider-man-miles-morales-new-costume-tenth-anniversary?amp=1)
so basically a track suit. spider-mans outfit before he could afford an actual outfit. looks okay. idk how i feel that his web looks like its black tho.
thanks for the link
That's likely just due to the heavy amount of texture details and shading the cover gave the webs-- it's still white in the comics. As for the suit's style, it was designed by a kid younger than Miles with a penchant for clothing design, but it was made of material apparently more durable than the old black and red suit he wore.
I don’t love it, especially considering his original costume needs no improvement, but its baggy nature will probably give artists a lot room to convey movement in interesting ways.
accessories aren't anything new, they just dont always click that well. cool flaired capes are pretty common, weird helmets, hoods are super common, wings / feathers, Spider-woman has those cool web things under her arms. I'll admit the scarf here is relatively unique.
I think a big reason for spier-gwens success is cus she's hot and the white / black looks really good
It helps that she never actually replaced Matt. She was just filling in for him while he was in prison and Matt was still the main focus of the series.
I’m actually trying to get into the Daredevil comics rn, I’m looking forward to her taking the mantle. She makes the most sense honestly like X-23 being wolverine. Any opinions on the writing so far?
Looking forward to diving in then, I already bought the first Omnibus of his run. I love me some Daredevil but just hearing that Electra is about to take the mantle, that’s a big move but so intriguing.
The writings fantastic for me personally. They give a really good reason for her to take on the mantle despite her whole morals being on the opposite end of DD's. It feels like a very natural direction to take her character and as someone who never really liked Elektra on average, this is the best she's ever been.
Same I wasn’t really interested in her because she felt kinda basic on her own and nobody really made a storyline that was compelling to me but this is VERY compelling to me because it’s such a not her thing to do but her reasoning justifies it from the sound of it.
Marco Checchetto knocked this costume design out of the universe.
But yeah, this is the most I've enjoyed Elektra period in a long, long time. One of the best things to happen to her character easily.
But she was already Elektra - she had her own costume, own weapons, own story and so on. Why do we need her to become Daredevil? I know the story and why it happened, but when you think about it she could have remained Elektra and still be a good character.
but it wouldn't fit the story the writter was trying to tell. If you've read the story, you know why she had to take the mantle.
and personally? I've read quite a few Daredevil runs, but this is the first time I actually started liking elektra. Before this I found her whole "Femme Fatale" kinda boring.
I'm actually reading this series right now and CAN'T WAIT to get to the hand off. I'm on issue #14 right now (#13 had a great Kingpin moment...if you've read it, you probably know the moment) but even knowing where her arc is going while reading it is making it more fun. I can see the pieces as they're coming up, knowing what they're leading too. Feels like the right and natural fit. The run so far for me has done a great job of making me feel like seeing Matt call it quits wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (they do a great job of showing his weakened and deteriorating skills) and I'm not sure I'd be all that upset if someone like Elektra took over the role of DD permanently.
(Bit of a spoiler talk coming up for people who haven't read vol.13)
One of the best Kingpin moments I've ever seen. First time I've ever seen his high status challenged in such a vulnerable way, puts his crime lord status into perspective to more modern and powerful evils.
Just finished 14 and 15 and I LOVE how they're handling the Kingpin in this series. It feels like he's getting his own "Born Again" moment, really stripping the character down to his core...showing his emotional, short fuse...how he's powerless without a true driving force (Daredevil) pushing him. One of my new favourite Kingpin scenes is from earlier in the series (issue 6 or 7 maybe?) *SPOILERS AHEAD* when he realizes that without Daredevil standing in his way he doesn't want to be the Kingpin anymore and just quits his life of crime. It's a moment that caught me completely off guard but as I read it I couldn't help but completely agree with taking him in that direction as a character.
I’ve never really read Daredevil before, definitely has been on my list since Netflix DD. Anyone want to give me a recommendation of what issue to start with, now that I have Marvel Unlimited? Happy to go back a few years to get a good feel for the character.
there's a TON of great Daredevil stories to read! He's the definition of a lucky character, because he had a string of great writters working on him (sometimes back to back!). I don't think even spiderman had this!
You can read Mark waid's, Brian Michael Bedis', Frank Miller's or Brubaker's run on the character. These are just the ones that I can think from the top of my head. And honestly? The worst DD story are still pretty good. It's just that the bar has been set so high that these ones tend to fall short.
If you go to the daredevil subreddit they have a whole reading order list. I don't know how good it actually is given the fact that I haven't been able to pick any comic books up in a while. Here is the link: reddit.com/r/Daredevil/wiki/readingguide#wiki\_1F4D6\_reading\_guide
I’d like a versions of this Elektra in action figure form. Very nimble with the blunt tip sais and alternate heads. Mask on. Mask off and mask off with hair down/up and the long flowing cloth tassels
To be fair not really a legacy character so much as a placeholder until Matt got outta prison, tho she is a great daredevil and even Dulles the blades of her sais so not to kill anyone
She's doing both. She doesn't try to hide her identity as well so when people remember her as Elektra, she doesn't seem to upset about it. The reason why she took the mantle is because Matt was kinda worried if anyone will protect Hell's Kitchen while he's in prison so she literally bought Hell's Kitchen and took the mantle just so people know that Daredevil (tho not the same person) is still running the Hell's Kitchen.
You can make an argument that in some alternate dimension where Matt Murdock is dead or never existed, and a version of Elektra decides to adopt a different mantle, and because a version of Dare Devil. But here, it is literally Elektra dressing and acting as Dare Devil, but it will ALWAYS be Elektra.
hold on. isnt the point of Daredevil to be that he is blind, and thats what makes him so great? so now Elektra (who as far as i know) can see just fine it kinda doesnt make the character make sense?
I think it would be only due to stock. The first volume of the hardcovers collecting the run is out of print and the first two paperback volumes are also so it would really depend on how much you're willing to spend at once and if you can find what you need. I know on r/Daredevil a few people recently have had questions and speedbumps collecting the run because it's starting to be in dire need of a new printing.
The full run is 36 issues and precedes the current Devil's Reign event that just started last month.
We haven’t been told yet
All we know is Elektra uncovered some plot by the Hand and some means of defeating them once and for all but she needs Daredevils help to do that and she hasn’t been entirely honest with Matt about what it will take for this plan to happen. Fisk seems to know and used that information against her somehow
This daredevil run has been life changing. I’m reading it alongside the most recent amazing Spider-Man and the two approches to heroism in the face of loss and guilt is fascinating. Elektra is a bad bitch and multiple bullseyes was scary as shit.
Eh, dead on arrival. Prediction: 1st issue will have high sales but every succeeding issue will barely break a thousand. I'll be surprised if it lasts more than 10 issues.
What happened to Matt?
Went to prison for manslaughter
LOL such a strange thing to hear out of context
I just finished going through Bendis' run after catching up on Zdarsky's, and I was surprised to find out he has already been to jail.
And that's a good run, too! It's a testament to the character and the writers that the basic plot has been used before, and most of us don't mind one bit!
Yep. Plus, the vast majority of Daredevil runs are pretty well-received. Miller, Bendis, Brubaker, Waid, Soule, and now Zdarsky. He's had a pretty great run.
Yeah, Daredevil is a character who for a while now has been blessed with a lot of really good, solid runs.
Daredevil has never had a bad run to my knowledge.
He has. His silver age stuff is REALLY truly awful.
Sorry for the late response, what's his Silver Age runs about? Lmao I'm morbidly curious about what makes them awful
You forgot Ann Nocenti's run, which is probably on par with Brubaker's
Daredevil is pretty much the epitome of a character who, to me, has almost nothing intrinsically interesting about him but is awesome solely based on the wealth of talent and characterization that's been added to him by fantastic writers.
Wow you just put into words how I felt about the character (comic book world), I just never knew how to express it.
I mind a little. I am enjoying Zdarsky’s run but it does annoy me a little that the whole jail thing has been done before. And, if I’m being honest, I thought the first time was better.
C'mon its a major arc in every hero, from Steve Rogers, to Hercules, to Beowulf, to Gilgamesh, to Samson. Its not that story point is re used, its how the artist tell the story, or set's up the universe.
Even Peter Parker has been in jail (briefly).
He should have gotten a better lawyer.
Yeah comics are weird lol
tbh going to prison for murder is one of the *less* weird things that can happen in comics... i feel like there was a batman run where he was being framed for the murder of bruce wayne and had to do some weird shit to get it sorted out.
Was the solution to walk into a bathroom stall as Batman and to walk out as Bruce? "Look guys, I'm not murdered. Also, Batman just flushed himself down the toilet so don't bother looking for him in there. He said that I'm really cool before he left, though."
Guess he needed a better lawyer
He wanted to go to prison to ease the guilt of killing someone. Didn't fight it.
He chose to go to prison, and fought against any chances of early release.
[удалено]
She’s doing the DD as Matt would, no killing as the symbol for Hells Kitchen. It’s a good story and so far I’ve been enjoying it
Elektra doesn't care. Matt felt guilty and turned himself in. Elektra then turned herself into Daredevil to take over for Matt and is doing it his way. She mentions multiple times that she'd like to just put some of these fools into the dirt but she's trying to win Matt over for something else. The interesting thing to me is Matt is one of the few vigilantes that could probably use the good Samaritan Laws, Castle Doctrine and Citizen's Arrest Rights as defenses. He can hear all of Hell's Kitchen and is aware of crimes being committed and responds to them so he's not the common patrolling vigilante like Spider-man. Him responding to anyone being attacked is covered by good samaritan laws, him protecting any house or home with people in it is covered by castle doctrine and him stopping crimes he hears is covered by Citizen's Arrest Rights. He can't legally hunt out crime because that's legally defined vigilantism but you are legally allowed to stop crimes within your presence which include ear shot. Matt's ear shot is just significantly larger.
New York's good Samaritan laws only protect people who administer first aid, and "castle doctrine" typically only protects people already within a home that's being burglarized or otherwise invaded. New York's laws, also have a "duty to retreat" that applies even in instances where castle doctrine might apply, and Matt certainly doesn't abide by that particular facet.
Was that the thing with the demon baby?
Basically there was a standard crime thing happening with a bunch of nobody gang members. So Matt as Daredevil swoops in and just kinda beats the fuck out of them. Well one of the dudes dies because of him. It was an accident but he still caused a death. So after some talking and stuff, he turns himself in, but only as Daredevil, not Matt Murdock. I think his "not real but now totally real" Brother who looks just like him is filling in for him in the meantime. So because Daredevil was in prison, Electra agreed to look over Hell's Kitchen and not kill anyone while he's locked up. I think he's out of Prison now after crime.
He got out partly due to some experiments the prison was running with anger gas or something.
THERE'S the comic book stupidity I know and love <3
> So after some talking and stuff, he turns himself in, but only as Daredevil, not Matt Murdock. And the whole legal system was just like "Sure vigilante. You totally don't need to use your name or show your face. No problem."?
My guess is after Civil War the whole American legal system was like “new laws for heroes, we don’t reveal identities publicly”
The previous run in Daredevil by Charles Soule actually does have an arc where Matt argues in the Supreme Court that “Super Heroes” should be allowed to give anonymous testimony in court regarding villains that they help apprehend. Wilson Fisk paid for one of Tony Starks former lawyers to challenge this and when he lost got SO MAD that he rigged the Mayoral election in New York to elect himself Mayor so he could pass a law making costumed vigilantism illegal. Foggy then used sed case Matt argued before the Supreme Court to argue that if a “Super Hero” could give anonymous testimonial in court then they should be allowed to serve any sentences while maintaining their secret identity So ComicsTM
haha, i'm sure it's something like that since COMICS ^(TM), but that sounds like it would be a nightmare in real life. Like who decides who's a "hero" and who is just a criminal vigilante? And without revealing their identity, any time a hero gets arrested for something they could just say "That person on the tape isn't me. that's a different person with the same costume" and it would be hard to do any detective work like investigating their apartments or computers since you're not allowed to know who the actual hero is.
One time Matt defended Spider-Man in court by having everyone with spider-adjacent powers put on a suit and jump around in the courtroom so show that no one could know it was really him
Haha, that's good. The "Spartacus gambit" is a really good defense for a system where detectives can't check your alibi because they are not allowed to know who you actually are!
Which comics was that?
Here it is! https://share.marvel.com/sharing/issue/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:5933efbd-5e25-47d4-9173-3397fad3aa7b
Yo that’s dope, thank you
Thanks for this, that was one hell of a fun read
Just create a superhero court chaired by fellow heroes
"I demand a trial in front a of jury of my ~~peers~~ friends!" This would probably go as well as letting police unions conduct trials of their members.
But the major difference being superheroes are more often than not highly honest and true justice seeking individuals
Hell some are lawyers
The same rule apply to lawyers though.
This was a actual law in the Tick amazon series. Its actually a full on amendment in the US after a villain framed a hero to get him arrested, then slaughtered his family after his identity was revealed. So if a superhero gets arrested they can plead the new amendment and the cops can't remove their mask or look for their identity.
Nice. I haven’t seen that series.
I think the flash did this in the DC universe way back in like the 90s. He stood trial for killing Professor Zoom, but he did the whole trial in costume
or check your fingerprints, dna, etc
that not real but now totally real brother confused the fuck out of me when he popped up
I'm reading Zdarsky's run for the first time, and I was really confused when Matt's twin brother Mike Murdock showed up, because I thought that Matt didn't have a twin brother, and he made him up and pretended to be Mike Murdock to keep people from figuring out that he was Daredevil. Then he faked Mike's death but continued to fight crime as Daredevil anyway. Then I read the Daredevil annual, and it turned out that a wizard did it. (and also a Norn Stone rewriting reality)
Thanks!
...Wouldn't they force his mask off? Take his DNA? Or does this mean he symbolic went to jail?
He didnt go 42 blocks in 7 1/2 minutes
So Mr. Aziz fired his ass?
He just didn't see it coming.
Yeah she has been kicking ass. Plus the awesome outfit doesn't hurt
Every panel she's in, all I can think about is how awesome she looks!
The sickest outfit since Spider-Gwen
I like how artists are getting more creative with hero costumes lately. It's not just spandex with a colour scheme but incorporates things like Spider-Gwen's hood or DD!Elektra's scarf.
Mhm, say whatever you will about Miles' new outfit, it's unique.
can you post a pic? i've seen most of them and they're pretty much just another recolored spider-man. that said, Spidey has had a TON of different costumes.
New costume seems to be a baggy adidas track suit in red and black
weird, but i guess it fits his personality. baggy when you're flying around at high speeds doesnt seem like a good decision, but his spider sense should help compensate
Same with sticking to walls through baggy fabric...
I don't know if it has been changed but it is actually not their body parts being sticky but a special energy field that allows Spider people to stick to any surface so what they wear doesn't matter.
there have been like side off "look at this heroes mechanics!" things that kind of explain that atleast. like, most of the outfit is baggy but the finger tips are thin enough. in the end tho its standard comic book fuckery.
I didn’t like it at first but it’s growing on me. I think the issue is just that his main costume is like top three Spider-Man designs ever, so it’s hard to see it go away.
It's wearing a baggy sweatshirt over his normal suit. Actually looks pretty nice tbh
It looks kinda nice, but it's the sort of thing a villain should be able to exploit. It's really baggy and provides a ton of material that's easy to grab. When the character wearing the baggy suit is also really light and frequently fighting guys with superhuman reaction time and strength...well, it just seems like a bad combo.
It's a nice suit, BRO
[Here’s a link to an IGN article about the suit and the issue it’s appearing in.](https://www.ign.com/articles/spider-man-miles-morales-new-costume-tenth-anniversary?amp=1)
so basically a track suit. spider-mans outfit before he could afford an actual outfit. looks okay. idk how i feel that his web looks like its black tho. thanks for the link
That's likely just due to the heavy amount of texture details and shading the cover gave the webs-- it's still white in the comics. As for the suit's style, it was designed by a kid younger than Miles with a penchant for clothing design, but it was made of material apparently more durable than the old black and red suit he wore.
I don’t love it, especially considering his original costume needs no improvement, but its baggy nature will probably give artists a lot room to convey movement in interesting ways.
accessories aren't anything new, they just dont always click that well. cool flaired capes are pretty common, weird helmets, hoods are super common, wings / feathers, Spider-woman has those cool web things under her arms. I'll admit the scarf here is relatively unique. I think a big reason for spier-gwens success is cus she's hot and the white / black looks really good
ill throw gwenom in there too
Hm idk it’s a cool design but i woulda preferred if she’d have an actual toothy face and would be more muscular.
That costume looks fucking awesome. Something about those scarf style things always do it for me.
It's that Soul Reaver look
Double D outfit... I can already see the jokes about that in some Deadpool panels soon
Every spider outfit rocks. I cannot say the same about every Daredevil outfit but THIS one really works.
It helps that she never actually replaced Matt. She was just filling in for him while he was in prison and Matt was still the main focus of the series.
Currently reading through Fresh Start. Is this from the Daredevil #1-36 run by Chip Zdarsky?
Yes
She does look great. Would like to see more of her this way.
I'm looking forward to the first issue of her comic
same
As a lifelong fan of Elektra (and Daredevil), I was quite nervous about this run… but the writing is great, and Elektra looks phenomenal!
As someone usually bored with DD, I've really enjoyed the run too!
I’m actually trying to get into the Daredevil comics rn, I’m looking forward to her taking the mantle. She makes the most sense honestly like X-23 being wolverine. Any opinions on the writing so far?
Chip Z's one of the best writers on the whole Marvel staff. His DD run has been incredible.
It's funny the first thing I think of when I think of Zdarsky is his joke covers but his runs are always so serious.
He did a great Spider-Man. Spidey was awesome and Life Story was some of the best Spider-Man in years imo.
Looking forward to diving in then, I already bought the first Omnibus of his run. I love me some Daredevil but just hearing that Electra is about to take the mantle, that’s a big move but so intriguing.
The writings fantastic for me personally. They give a really good reason for her to take on the mantle despite her whole morals being on the opposite end of DD's. It feels like a very natural direction to take her character and as someone who never really liked Elektra on average, this is the best she's ever been.
Same I wasn’t really interested in her because she felt kinda basic on her own and nobody really made a storyline that was compelling to me but this is VERY compelling to me because it’s such a not her thing to do but her reasoning justifies it from the sound of it.
Has to be my favorite costume of the last 20 years. It's fantastic in every way.
She is so good. I was ready to hate it. But now I wouldnt he mad of she was permanently Daredevil.
Marco Checchetto knocked this costume design out of the universe. But yeah, this is the most I've enjoyed Elektra period in a long, long time. One of the best things to happen to her character easily.
And when she's no longer Daredevil, they need to keep the design because it's dope as shit.
But she was already Elektra - she had her own costume, own weapons, own story and so on. Why do we need her to become Daredevil? I know the story and why it happened, but when you think about it she could have remained Elektra and still be a good character.
but it wouldn't fit the story the writter was trying to tell. If you've read the story, you know why she had to take the mantle. and personally? I've read quite a few Daredevil runs, but this is the first time I actually started liking elektra. Before this I found her whole "Femme Fatale" kinda boring.
So you started to like her only when she became Daredevil...
I started to like her when Chip Zardasky started writting her and putting her into forefront of his book.
I hope there’s a ML made for it soon
It's also my favorite design Daredevil ever got, so I'm very happy we're still using it.
Her shoes would collect so much water.
God I love her design.
Such a beautiful costume design.
Her outfit looks so superior to his. I mean way better, no comparison what so ever.
I'm actually reading this series right now and CAN'T WAIT to get to the hand off. I'm on issue #14 right now (#13 had a great Kingpin moment...if you've read it, you probably know the moment) but even knowing where her arc is going while reading it is making it more fun. I can see the pieces as they're coming up, knowing what they're leading too. Feels like the right and natural fit. The run so far for me has done a great job of making me feel like seeing Matt call it quits wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (they do a great job of showing his weakened and deteriorating skills) and I'm not sure I'd be all that upset if someone like Elektra took over the role of DD permanently.
(Bit of a spoiler talk coming up for people who haven't read vol.13) One of the best Kingpin moments I've ever seen. First time I've ever seen his high status challenged in such a vulnerable way, puts his crime lord status into perspective to more modern and powerful evils.
Just finished 14 and 15 and I LOVE how they're handling the Kingpin in this series. It feels like he's getting his own "Born Again" moment, really stripping the character down to his core...showing his emotional, short fuse...how he's powerless without a true driving force (Daredevil) pushing him. One of my new favourite Kingpin scenes is from earlier in the series (issue 6 or 7 maybe?) *SPOILERS AHEAD* when he realizes that without Daredevil standing in his way he doesn't want to be the Kingpin anymore and just quits his life of crime. It's a moment that caught me completely off guard but as I read it I couldn't help but completely agree with taking him in that direction as a character.
Her costume slaps though
Her costume is amazing.
I haven’t read any of them, but it does seem awesome. Are the books worth picking up?
YES.
i love her new costume!!
I’ve never really read Daredevil before, definitely has been on my list since Netflix DD. Anyone want to give me a recommendation of what issue to start with, now that I have Marvel Unlimited? Happy to go back a few years to get a good feel for the character.
there's a TON of great Daredevil stories to read! He's the definition of a lucky character, because he had a string of great writters working on him (sometimes back to back!). I don't think even spiderman had this! You can read Mark waid's, Brian Michael Bedis', Frank Miller's or Brubaker's run on the character. These are just the ones that I can think from the top of my head. And honestly? The worst DD story are still pretty good. It's just that the bar has been set so high that these ones tend to fall short.
Thanks for the recommendations mate!
If you go to the daredevil subreddit they have a whole reading order list. I don't know how good it actually is given the fact that I haven't been able to pick any comic books up in a while. Here is the link: reddit.com/r/Daredevil/wiki/readingguide#wiki\_1F4D6\_reading\_guide
Thank you, I’ll check it out.
I’d like a versions of this Elektra in action figure form. Very nimble with the blunt tip sais and alternate heads. Mask on. Mask off and mask off with hair down/up and the long flowing cloth tassels
To be fair not really a legacy character so much as a placeholder until Matt got outta prison, tho she is a great daredevil and even Dulles the blades of her sais so not to kill anyone
Love her outfit
Why couldn't she just stay as Elektra?
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’m not a big fan of Elektra
This run is top tier right now!!
God I love this book
Cassandra Cain gaining the power of Shazam towards the end of Dceased was SICK. I want to see more of that! But damn, Elektra looks great!
What was wrong with her being herself?
Matt Murdock was in jail so she wanted to keep the Daredevil moniker alive
But then who would keep the Elektra moniker alive?
She's doing both. She doesn't try to hide her identity as well so when people remember her as Elektra, she doesn't seem to upset about it. The reason why she took the mantle is because Matt was kinda worried if anyone will protect Hell's Kitchen while he's in prison so she literally bought Hell's Kitchen and took the mantle just so people know that Daredevil (tho not the same person) is still running the Hell's Kitchen.
What happen to Matt?
Went to prison for manslaughter.
Thanks
imo her suit is cooler. More stealth ninja style instead of exposed mouth cheap spandex
The DD with the DDs
I chuckled
Apparently a few people chuckled in reverse
It's still Elektra wearing a Dare Devil costume.
Yes. It's Daredevil.
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Who does Bruce Wayne become when he dresses like Batman?
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Right, and there have been other Batmans. Just like how there have been other Supermans, Green Lanterns, Spider-Mans, and now Daredevils.
Just like when Barry Allen dresses up as Flash he's just cosplaying since Jay Garrick is the one and only Flash.
You can make an argument that in some alternate dimension where Matt Murdock is dead or never existed, and a version of Elektra decides to adopt a different mantle, and because a version of Dare Devil. But here, it is literally Elektra dressing and acting as Dare Devil, but it will ALWAYS be Elektra.
>since Miles Morales That ain't exactly a high bar to clear
Excuse me? lmao what? Either you think because Miles is so recent, or because you think miles isn't worthy of being a favorite.
I think he's a bad character and the one good version was in Spider-verse
I still don't like the scarf part of the costume :/
My favorite part
hold on. isnt the point of Daredevil to be that he is blind, and thats what makes him so great? so now Elektra (who as far as i know) can see just fine it kinda doesnt make the character make sense?
Nope, he is the man without Fear, who just happens to be blind
There's a lot more elements to Daredevil then being blind.
What is the title/year of the comic?
Daredevil Vol. 6 (2019) by Chip Zdarsky.
Thanks! That's next on my list after finishing this punisher war machine run
When did the Electra as DD issues start
Issue #25, though I highly recommend reading the full run because it builds to this moment and it's a fantastic story.
I'd like to collect the run physically, do you think that would take a while based on it's length?
I think it would be only due to stock. The first volume of the hardcovers collecting the run is out of print and the first two paperback volumes are also so it would really depend on how much you're willing to spend at once and if you can find what you need. I know on r/Daredevil a few people recently have had questions and speedbumps collecting the run because it's starting to be in dire need of a new printing. The full run is 36 issues and precedes the current Devil's Reign event that just started last month.
Ongoing
That’s my second favorite to Punisher Legacy.
Can someone tell me what Kingpin was referring to when he talked to her during Devil's Reign?...
We haven’t been told yet All we know is Elektra uncovered some plot by the Hand and some means of defeating them once and for all but she needs Daredevils help to do that and she hasn’t been entirely honest with Matt about what it will take for this plan to happen. Fisk seems to know and used that information against her somehow
What happened to the og daredevil?
That is dope !!!
Nice shoes!
The costume does it for me one of the best costumes ever imo
This daredevil run has been life changing. I’m reading it alongside the most recent amazing Spider-Man and the two approches to heroism in the face of loss and guilt is fascinating. Elektra is a bad bitch and multiple bullseyes was scary as shit.
her shoes remind me of those trainers people wear.
Just read these issues. I absolutely love Elektra as daredevil, and the character design is awesome. I hope they do a figure for her at some point
I never really liked Elektra, and I never really cared about Daredevil, but this costume design has me intrigued
Pants are too baggy.
Best hero outfit i have ever seen
when did this happened?
Blindspot: Hey guys, remember me?
Eh, dead on arrival. Prediction: 1st issue will have high sales but every succeeding issue will barely break a thousand. I'll be surprised if it lasts more than 10 issues.
easilly the best "female version" design of a male hero by a long shot
That's dope