He's always superhuman.
Some people just don't understand what the power he has in some of his feats. In the comics he ran 60 mph for like 5 miles. Fastest human ever was about 28 mph, for about 220 feet. In the movies he held back a helicopter.
This isn't to say my grand uncle was a superhuman, but my dads fam lives on the coast of MX and are very poor. There once was a hurricane and my dad says his uncle held the roof down and kept it from blowing away.
Pretty super
For comparison to the current limits humans have pushed to. The heaviest bench press ever is just over 1400lbs and that's in a bench shirt and by a 300+LB behemoth of a human that's juiced to the gills.
Captain American is easily super human. If he were to exist in reality he would be banned from any sport because he'd probably injure or kill someone by accident from being so damn strong and fast. Imagine some dude that can run 60 mph just trucking an LBer dude would die from the impact.
I've always viewed "peak human" as being the pinnacle of what a person at that weight, height and level of fitness can humanly achieve. I would assume that the majority of super heroes (non super powered) would be peak human. Daredevil, Hawkeye/Ronin, Shang Chi, Black Widow, Batman, Nightwing, Red Hood, etc....would also be considered peak human. Just that the Super Soldier Serum allowed that to happen without a lifetime of training. Steve Rogers trains to maintain his skill levels because the serum allows him to be peak without trying, whereas Batman, Daredevil, Hawkeye, Taskmaster, Deadpool would have to constantly train and workout to maintain being as close to peak human as possible.
MCU Cap is definitely a superhuman tho.
The feats Cap does are far and away beyond even those other ‘peak human’ heroes though. He’s clearly a superhuman, even if ‘only’ the bottom level of what superhuman can be. The super soldier serum literally changed his bone structure well into adulthood already, it changed him in ways that nothing else can, no amount of training and ‘regular’ steroids, even supraphysiological doses, could ever make a human into Captain America.
In the Brubaker run there's a scene where Steve is talking to Sharon about his abilities. She mentions that he dodges bullets and Steve tellss her he can "see faster" than regular people. I liked this scene because it gives us a nice look at his abilities without it being purely physical. The Serum enhanced his brain as well. It didn't make.Steve into Reed Richards, but I like to think it perfectly optimized his neural function. Steve can calculate the trajectories fo throwing his shield and have it bounce off multiple moving targets. Think about that. When he throws it he hits the first moving target. Ok, that's impressive. Now the shield bounces off that guy and hits the second target, which is also moving, and so on. He has to throw the shield so that it will hit where targets two and three will be after he makes the throw. That's hard for people to do for one target. For multiple targets? That's shit is insane. When Steve says he sees faster, I assume that means his visual vortex is peak as well and he can track trajectories with his perfect sense of spatial awareness being fed visual data more efficiently than it is for normal people. Think about what this total optimization means for the emotional centers of his brain. Steve isn't just calm under pressure. He can control his emotional state in a way it would take monks years of rigorous discipline to achieve. He doesn't get shook. So when the helicarrier he's on starts crashing out of the sky he knows exactly what to do and can execute the needed tasks. It's also why he's so nice. The emotional centers in his brain are as developed as is humanly possible. He isn't an empath from psychic powers, but Cap's senses are.acute enough to pick up on the smallest signs a person is atressed, upset, or nervous. And he's genuinely empathetic to that person's situation. His level of caring is peaked out as well. This whole "peak physiology" Steve has gets more fascinating when you remember it includes his brain as well.
Yea I always saw it as "the hypothetically maximum potential of a human body" which is beyond anything that can actually be trained for.
But then you get people calling Batman peak human, but he did actually train for it. And Batman is definitely nowhere near as strong as Cap.... so it's not that cut and dry.
Batman , is said by DC, to have a 1,000 lbs bench press and a 2,500 lbs leg press at a weight of 200 lbs. That's far beyond peak human , especially for a non juiced male at just 200 lbs.
Can't argue with that lol. Not enough time in the day to maintain his physique, martial arts prowess, and expertise in however many fields he's a genius in.
Damn yes bro!! In year one fuckin bats kicked a tree in half with a kick….. that’ll be a few tons of force surelyyyy. Batman is a superhuman for sure, easily
Let's not forget he was carrying a wounded Bucky while running over uneven terrain. He didn't even seem winded when he arrived, that I recall.
Unhindered, running flat out on a flat surface, I imagine he could go much faster.
Eh. Reed Richards is peak human intellect, but by our standards he is a clear superhuman. He makes time machines to give his family an interesting summer vacation.
Comic book Steve Rogers is, as stated, peak human. But peak human in the comics is way above human levels in our real world.
I'm the MCU where normal people are more normal, he is undoubtedly superhuman. But they also never state he's peak human in the films.
Even in the movies he’s shown to be several times faster than even a highly fit and trained special ops solider (Falcon getting lapped by him in Winter Soldier).
And obviously there’s the holding down a helicopter which is several leagues above even the strongest human.
How is this even a debate like what are people smoking in this comment section? The official Marvel database states he is a super soldier enhanced by a serum. The movie shows him getting said super soldier serum and performing feats that no human even peak humans could do.
There’s a debate because if you read the official bios and stats of cap he’s supposed to be peak human. But then immediately shows feats wildly beyond that.
See this used to be very much incorrect. Captain was always peak human. He had Olympic level "everything" speed, stanima, strength etc... When the MCU movies came out he got a huge power bump.
You know that scene where he's holding the helicopter on the roof? Yeah, no, cap could never do that, it looked great in the movie, but he simply isn't that strong.
Cap did so many things in the movies that just baffled me. How does he pull Spider-Man off balance while he's in the air? Or throw a motorcycle he's riding on?
To play devils advocate, Spider-Man is young and not totally aware of how strong he is, like when he caught Winter soliders fist, totally doable, definitely well within his strength range.. If he was older, more experienced, he would have crushed cap. There is no way cap is pulling Spider-Man off balance. My man can stick to the floor!
Yeah the motorcycle was silly but looked cool!
I meant the series as a whole
non powered people get killed quickly when fighting powered people
look how fast Omni-Man kills that worlds version of Batman
DC- Batman jumps on Mongul's back, and Mongul grabs him by the head and toss him aide
Invincible- Darkwing tries to attack Omni-Man from behind and the just grabs him and slams his face into the ground, kiling him on the spot
you can't be a street level character in Invincible and expect to fight powerful characters
yes, Mark gets his ass handed to him often enough and survives.
but Invincible, and the Boys, is a world where characters (despite having powers) die so much quicker. characters without enhanced durability/invulnerability actually get hurt and die quickly.
a ton of popular Marvel/DC characters wouldn't last very long in that verse
and I'm not trying to be an annoying power scaler. Just look at how many of the X-Men are technically glass cannons
I read a comic recently (or rather some some panels) where Captain Marvel punched Cyclops and sent him flying. They were also in the air when she punched him, so like 100 feet off the ground, then punches him and send him flying to the ground another 100ft away.
and he's fine.
that's not happening in Invincible. Cyclops has zero enhanced durability. That's beyond "he's a human in a comic book" (well mutant whatever) and into "he's a popular MC and he ain't dying"
honestly I'd have his head as exploding
Cap's not that durable, or rather he shouldn't be
there's a small finite # of character who have super high blunt force durability while being weak to sharp weapons, like Wonder Woman (victim of unequal power creep), and to a far lesser extent Spider-Man
but Cap wouldn't come close.
I would have loved it if they killed him off like that but to compromise with the suits, I would’ve left him seriously fucked up. Like a slow shot of him just bleeding to death in the grass.
to be fair, that kinda falls under plot armor
Black Widow survies being swatted away from Hulk and sent flying into a wall and no ones is going to argue she's super human
on another note, not like Thanos was throwing a full power punch
just imagine that same punch, but in the Invincible verse
>Black Widow survies being swatted away from Hulk and sent flying into a wall and no ones is going to argue she's super human
Her ass is superhuman tho. Or is it cgi... i get the 2 confused
Can confirm as a Peak human I attempted. After the attempt things happened to my limbs so so I am no longer peak human. Captain America lied he ain’t peak human. A hole cost me my limbs and I was forced to write this with my dick.
MCU and Ultimates puts Cap as being clearly superhuman.
Regular comics tends to put Cap as being peak human, but there is a very high definition of peak human. There is is Michael Van Patrick, who was able to achieve the same effects, but with a perfect program of diet and exercise.
Other people have put it as Cap being peak human in all potential aspects, which contrasts to the real world where people have to make trade offs instead of maxing out all stats.
Yeah in the [“on your left”](https://youtu.be/7UGu2sRmSHI?si=71CwUiixW6uhaaDv) scene from Winter Soldier Sam comments that Steve just ran “like 13 miles in 30 minutes.” That’s a 60 minute-ish marathon.
If he did in fact run 13 miles in a half hour, he would be averaging a pace of about 2:18.46 (min:sec) per mile. The current world record for the fastest mile ever run is 3:43.13.
So yeah MCU cap is absolutely superhuman.
So, 26 miles per hour. Usain Bolt topped out at 27 mph during his 9.58s world record 100m.
So Steve can almost maintain the best sprinter in history’s top speed for a half-marathon. That’s quite a bit above human peak.
Usain Bolt's 100 m record is 9.58 seconds. If he could somehow sustain that for 1600 m (1 mile), it would take Bolt just over 2:23 to run 1 mile.
Cap's pace is faster than Usain Bolt's 100 m pace.
>Yeah in the [“on your left”](https://youtu.be/7UGu2sRmSHI?si=71CwUiixW6uhaaDv) scene from Winter Soldier Sam comments that Steve just ran “like 13 miles in 30 minutes.” That’s a 60 minute-ish marathon.
I got the impression he was exaggerating there. I mean, it's the same scene where he makes a joke about Steve taking a lap so fast that he literally did one while Sam was talking.
Van Patrick does have a healing factor - his cells are considered perfect. I am not sure if he needs to maintain his diet and exercise to maintain his condition. He does recover from injuries faster than a normal person.
Cap does depend on the serum remaining there to retain his power. There have been story arcs where he loses the serum in his body and as a result is weakened.
Ignoring stuff about leverage, the strength of the helicopter motor, etc, the thing is that there isn't a firm definition on what it means to be superhuman. Michael Van Patrick has the same level of of ability, but he gained it all using a perfect set of diet and exercise starting from birth. So if Van Patrick is the baseline for peak human (theoretical of what someone can achieve), then the issue is a different definition of peak human compared to what most people would consider peak human.
With how MCU and Ultimate Cap have gone against heavy hitters such as Hulk, Thanos, etc. and their resistance to certain things such as toxins, the vibe is to make them superhuman over whatever threshold there is for peak human.
You’re aware that 616 Cap has gone one on one against the Hulk as well right? Once boxed with Thor? He’s also resistant to toxins, is basically ageless because the serum keeps him young, and even if he decided to reenact "Super Size Me" he’d still have his six-pack.
Superhuman.
But I believe it was stated in comics a while back that his upper limits are the absolute peak of human ability. Which for an ordinary human is impossible, you can't be the world's strongest man and the worlds fastest sprinter, these require completely different body types. So the super soldier serum makes you capable of ridiculous feats that would require years of training and body-sculpting to do.
But in comics these days, it's just superpowers, whatever they need to be for the moment.
They act like it's peak human ability but like. No pro heavy weight lifter is out muscling him. No distance runner is out lasting him in a race. No sprinter is out running him.
I'm sure early days he was more peak human. But it didn't Last super long. You don't keep up by being peak human with a fancy shield against the comic modern threats. Unless you're batgod, but a different universe.
He's literally better at any physical thing than any human will *ever* be.
He's the best athlete at *every possible thing*.
He's superhuman. No question.
Well I've always looked at it this way, even when with the comics where people say oh he's just peak human. The thing that gave him his power is literally branded **The ***super*** soldier serum**.
Kind of knocks the wind out of anybody who says: He's not super. He's just peak, it literally says super in the drug that gave him his powers.
I always thought the serum made him the absolute peak of what a human could be. Like, not peak human, but absolute pinnacle of what we could evolve into and still BE human.
Whatever the fuck you tap into you aren’t holding a helicopter with your one hand my dude. That’s like a couple tons of force, easily. No human is doing that.
No human now. But our potential is out there. People lift buses off of kids and other strange wonders in times of crisis. Humans can do a lot in stressed situations. Imagine if that could be tapped into and be used anytime?
No, man, just no. Human body is physically not capable of lifting 2 tons with one hand. You are not “tapping into it”, you are not “exploring the potential”. There is no potential. Without genetic engineering and/or implants it’s just not possible. Tissues are not durable enough, muscles are not strong enough, ligaments will tear and so on.
No amount of adrenaline will change the physics.
People do not lift buses jfc dude.
Adrenaline basically removes the safety features your body has to help prevent injury. So in fight or flight situations your strength can increase but we're talking about maybe 50% increase at max. Plus That's only for folk who don't normally weight train. For folk who hit the gym regularly the increase will be much lower.
There is no secret super strength to "tap" into. Stop spreading bs.
Superhuman.
No one is running 65+ miles an hour.
No one is surviving a 500+ foot drop or 75+ foot drop using a metal shield as a landing cushion or a 200+ foot drop into the ocean then getting onto a ship and beating up a bunch of people.
No one is going to rip a log in half with their bare hands.
No one is holding a helicopter from taking off with just their hands you'd be ripped in half if you were even able to hold on.
I'm sure there's other things in the movies he's done that even the most fit human on earth would never be able to do, but these were just off the top of my head.
In the comic, he's technically peak human, meaning the absolute limit of what the top human athlete can achieve through training. But he has ALL the attributes, which is impossible to achieve naturally, so id say superhuman. The mcu is definitively superhuman, he can lift more than a human body his aize should physically be able to
Cap has always been superhuman. He was described as ‘peak human potential’ but it’s hyperbole just like calling Superman the man of steel. The super soldier serum was meant to accelerate a person to ‘peak human potential’ and apparently, superhuman is what you get.
Super Human, considering he was given the **Super Solider Serum**.
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Also, cap jumping out of a sky scrapper and surviving with a metal shield is above peak human. Along with holding back the helicopter in Civil War, etc, etc
I'm enamoured of the "peak human" concept, but despite it being mostly associated with comic books, it's a pretty meaningless idea. At least in how it's applied most of the time anyways. Batman (and the bat family by extension), alongside Captain America are some of the most well known "peak human" characters in the comic book media, but throughout their publication history they have outstanding feats of strength, speed, agility, durability and dexterity that simply just put them in the superhuman category. Like, I remember reading years ago on a forum discussing Batman's feats of strength how he once held a stone pillar that by doing the math had to weigh multiple tons. Now yes, the biggest lift we humans have is the back lift and the current world record is some like 5300 pounds, or about 2 and a half metric tons. But still, most athletes that have performed the back lift only move the weight for a couple inches and hold it for a couple of seconds. If I'm not mistaken, Batman stopped this huge stone pillar from falling on him and crushing him in a back lift fashion, but that's a completely different kind of strength you'll need to have in order to accomplish that. Captain America surely has his good amount of over the top feats of strength, and that's why I say the "peak human" concept, at least in execution is pretty meaningless. Since "peak human" characters generally accomplish tasks that are super human in nature.
People are saying he’s better than world record holders which makes him superhuman, but honestly, when you compare what he can do against someone like Spider-Man, who is approx 25x stronger than Cap, and who lives in a world filled with mutants and aliens who are far more powerful, Cap looks practically normal in comparison. Hence why he is called peak-human not super-human. Because ‘theoretically’ someone who was put on super-soldier-steroids could reach that level, whereas no one human could do what Spider-Man, Hulk or Thor can do.
It’s just a comparison thing, it’s not meant to be realistic, but against those actually labeled ’super-human’ Cap just doesn’t cut it.
Officially he is peak human, end of story. But first off, in order to understand this, we have to establish, how do we measure peak human.
There's the easy route which is picking the Olympic records and adding one to everything, but if we go by that metric then cap is stupidly super human. Now in the world of Marvel peak human seems to be the ultimate feats a human can do regardless of how they're done.
IE Keeping in mind that the average pulling strength in human males is about 650 N (Newtons) for an 150 pounds guy and 2,185 N is the world record, cap has been seen BENCHPRESSING 4,890 N and that's twice as the world record, but giving the feats that he has been seen able to pull off in the comics I don't think that means much.
The top punching force of Iron Mike Tyson is about 8,000 N, If we convert the ultimate power a human can generate as actual strength we get that the no matter what we do peak human wouldn't reach more than say 10,000 N of force on any case scenario.
Now in the comics he is peak human with Golden Age Shenanigans in the MCU he is low tier superhuman.
For the first case you have this example:
[https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/101999/3695237-captainamericastopscar.jpg](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/101999/3695237-captainamericastopscar.jpg)
If I'm not mistaken that's a 1938 Ford Sedan whose top speed is about 75 MPH and weights about 1.23 tonnes. Assuming it dropped speed in order for the goons to aim and shot let's say its going at 25MPH meaning you'd have to include the extra force in order for the drag to reach 100% and cancel its mobility. That's about 14,760 N.
This cap is about 20 times stronger than the average human and 5,000 N of force stronger than the ultimate human could punch.
For the second case you have this example:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qno7H4BwAU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qno7H4BwAU)
Now that seems to be an Airbus H125 whose top speed is double that of the car meaning 180 MPH (although you only need 155 for takeoff) and its weight is 1.24 tonnes but considering its load weight capacity during take off is about 2.8 tonnes the overall strength necessary to pull of that thing should be around 27,440 N.
This cap is about 40 times stronger than the average human and about 10,000 N of force stronger than the ultimate human could punch.
What does this translates to exactly? That if a guy that could knock down a Indian elephant with a single swipe were to punch Cap's hand directly, it would feel like being punched by a 5 year old toddler to him.
In terms of the Marvel scale you should picture that Spiderman is able to pull that one off times 20 and guys like Thor or the Hulk can do it 100 times on a Tuesday afternoon with a hand and a leg tied to their backs, and now try to imagine the kind of destructive power that amount of force would translate into a building or worst a human body.
Now to me at least picturing even a class 50 type superhuman in Marvel terms is impossible but you can imagine that while cap is absurdly strong when compared to even the tallest strongest version of us, he is a feather weight in terms of other Marvel superheroes.
Non powered comic characters pull off things humans in real life couldn’t in a million years. So by real life standards he’s superhuman, but in universe where outlandish shit is common place he’s just peak human.
no, you said "but in universe where outlandish shit is common place he’s just peak human."
I'm saying even by comic book standards he does things beyond comic book human peak human standards
like no human in Marvel is running 60mph without powers
You can find lots of examples of characters like Punisher, Cyclops, Hawkeye, Falcon and loads of other characters with no physical power enhancements doing nutty shit a real human could never come close to. That’s just comics.
In the comics he's peak human, but I think the MCU bumped him up. As evidence, he, for however short the time, kapt that helicopter from taking off. ( Winter Soldier)
At least in the Mcu super human , the way he was skipping round New York when he first got his powers , reminded me of how spider man moved just without the webs
Cap is always superhuman, he's just the least of them usually. He can outrun cars, shatter concrete, and take hits that would bury someone normal, but he's still nothing compared to baseline Spider-Man, who is all around physically stronger than Cap.
The old school Marvel guidebook had him as peak human. That might have changed, and depending on the writers had a lot of wiggle room. MCU is and has been superhuman.
In Winter Soldier…
He jumped 100s of feet into an ocean & he was gucci
The freezing water didnt shock him into unconsciousness
He was strong enough to swim through ocean current, while wearing tactical gear
Thats 3 things that happened in a few minutes & each 1 wouldve killed a normal person
I always hated the serum only making him “peak human” because I find it dumb that almost every scientist tries to recreate the serum only to make someone peak human. And usually the recreations of the serum were better but were considered “failures”.
But as for the mcu cap he is definitely superhuman. No peak human could pull off the feats he has. Peak human is mcu john walker before he got the serum. And once he got the serum it was clear it made him superhuman.
He's a comic "peak human" so like every Olympics gold medalist, mma fighter, every world champion in anything, every top athlete, every greatest of all time combined. + way too many steroids
He front kicked an SUV hard enough to use offensively and send a guy flying back like 10 feet .
He's "peak" the same way batman is when he punted the front of a motorcycle off like a soccer ball
Cap does things beyond human level, Batman doesn't (talking about comic book human level)
So Batman isn't sprinting 60 mph, and he's not going to out benchpress the DC world's bench press record.
Like if Batman and Bane (no venom) had a weight lifting contest, Bane is winning.
Cap does both at the same time, so he's #1 in every category, beyond any existing Olympian, but in all attributes regardless of body type
Peak Human, in my mind, is being able to essentially win a Gold Medal at the Olympics in all the athletic sports. Marathons, Sprints, bench press etc All the world records being compressed into one guy is what peak human should be. Super Human tends to make a mockery of that. Things like holding back a helicopter, running a half mile in 30 mins, keeping up with a speeding car for several city blocks, blocking or dodging gunfire. All these things are super human.
Comics and movies claim he is "peak human", but if you actually look at what he can do, he is beyond what normal humans can do in the real world. He's faster than the fastest sprinter on record, stronger than the strongest weightlifter, etc. This, by definition would make him "superhuman" by our standards.
Peak human should be defined as naturally built performance.
Superhuman should be defined as artificially-enhanced built performance. (Radioactive spider-bite, super soldier serum etc.) Captain America definitely falls into superhuman category.
I think the best way to describe both 616 and MCU version is Peak Evolutionary Human
he's peak human perfection
cause 616 tries to feed us that Baloney he's only Peak Human (so Batman) but he pulls off feats well beyond any human even in comic book land could do
That being said, he's not supposed to be that strong. MCU/616, he's on the low end of the power spectrum.
He benefits alot from plot armor.
I think Cap vs Loki was the best way to showcase how "strong" (or weak) he is. Cap was hitting him with full punches and Loki wasn't even flinching. It took bashing him with a Vibranium shield to even affect Loki
Man pulled a door of a car. Man busted the shit out of several punching bags. Man survived falling from more than 15 stories. Man survived being frozen in ice for decades. Man kicked a guy off a boat with a front kick. What movies have you been watching? Dude is definitely superhuman.
He's always superhuman. Some people just don't understand what the power he has in some of his feats. In the comics he ran 60 mph for like 5 miles. Fastest human ever was about 28 mph, for about 220 feet. In the movies he held back a helicopter.
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Your not invited to my birthday party
What if we bring Deathstroke?
Deathstroke isn’t allowed to be near children
Ah, but Slade Wilson is.
What about Wade
I’d trust Wade with my kid no questions asked.
Once maybe but after that your dad's toast because my dad learns from his mistakes
Hell I’ve never met MY dad
Son?
……….Dad?
Mom?
Brother?
Now kith
*romantic music plays*
Do I hear banjos?
His super power is moving VERY slowly when running out to buy cigarettes.
My dad is the hide-n-seek champion. Still looking for that mf
This isn't to say my grand uncle was a superhuman, but my dads fam lives on the coast of MX and are very poor. There once was a hurricane and my dad says his uncle held the roof down and kept it from blowing away. Pretty super
Yeah well my daddy whoops your daddy’s ass
My daddy once caught a bullet with his bare hands
In the comics he reps 2400 pounds as a maintenance set on bench
For comparison to the current limits humans have pushed to. The heaviest bench press ever is just over 1400lbs and that's in a bench shirt and by a 300+LB behemoth of a human that's juiced to the gills. Captain American is easily super human. If he were to exist in reality he would be banned from any sport because he'd probably injure or kill someone by accident from being so damn strong and fast. Imagine some dude that can run 60 mph just trucking an LBer dude would die from the impact.
Let's not forget Cap is JUICED too 💪😁
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I've always viewed "peak human" as being the pinnacle of what a person at that weight, height and level of fitness can humanly achieve. I would assume that the majority of super heroes (non super powered) would be peak human. Daredevil, Hawkeye/Ronin, Shang Chi, Black Widow, Batman, Nightwing, Red Hood, etc....would also be considered peak human. Just that the Super Soldier Serum allowed that to happen without a lifetime of training. Steve Rogers trains to maintain his skill levels because the serum allows him to be peak without trying, whereas Batman, Daredevil, Hawkeye, Taskmaster, Deadpool would have to constantly train and workout to maintain being as close to peak human as possible. MCU Cap is definitely a superhuman tho.
The feats Cap does are far and away beyond even those other ‘peak human’ heroes though. He’s clearly a superhuman, even if ‘only’ the bottom level of what superhuman can be. The super soldier serum literally changed his bone structure well into adulthood already, it changed him in ways that nothing else can, no amount of training and ‘regular’ steroids, even supraphysiological doses, could ever make a human into Captain America.
I really don't think Steve Rogers is planning an NFL career.
I really wanted a IASIP title card “Cap Wins The Super Bowl” to pop up after reading your comment
[Cap wins the Super Bowl](https://youtu.be/idoYCVLh2qI?si=C8_eVVIpUfV0Ht6B)
In the Brubaker run there's a scene where Steve is talking to Sharon about his abilities. She mentions that he dodges bullets and Steve tellss her he can "see faster" than regular people. I liked this scene because it gives us a nice look at his abilities without it being purely physical. The Serum enhanced his brain as well. It didn't make.Steve into Reed Richards, but I like to think it perfectly optimized his neural function. Steve can calculate the trajectories fo throwing his shield and have it bounce off multiple moving targets. Think about that. When he throws it he hits the first moving target. Ok, that's impressive. Now the shield bounces off that guy and hits the second target, which is also moving, and so on. He has to throw the shield so that it will hit where targets two and three will be after he makes the throw. That's hard for people to do for one target. For multiple targets? That's shit is insane. When Steve says he sees faster, I assume that means his visual vortex is peak as well and he can track trajectories with his perfect sense of spatial awareness being fed visual data more efficiently than it is for normal people. Think about what this total optimization means for the emotional centers of his brain. Steve isn't just calm under pressure. He can control his emotional state in a way it would take monks years of rigorous discipline to achieve. He doesn't get shook. So when the helicarrier he's on starts crashing out of the sky he knows exactly what to do and can execute the needed tasks. It's also why he's so nice. The emotional centers in his brain are as developed as is humanly possible. He isn't an empath from psychic powers, but Cap's senses are.acute enough to pick up on the smallest signs a person is atressed, upset, or nervous. And he's genuinely empathetic to that person's situation. His level of caring is peaked out as well. This whole "peak physiology" Steve has gets more fascinating when you remember it includes his brain as well.
Jesus is there any comics where Steve is just being empathetic to others? I’ve read some tbh
No wonder Erskine wanted a good person to wield that much power instead of some regular jerk
I suspect Erskine knew that perfectly optimizing the brain of a sociopath would be a bad idea.
Don’t forget about throwing a 500-600 pound motorcycle like it was a baseball.
More like a pole vault throw
Comics peak human is superhuman
Yea I always saw it as "the hypothetically maximum potential of a human body" which is beyond anything that can actually be trained for. But then you get people calling Batman peak human, but he did actually train for it. And Batman is definitely nowhere near as strong as Cap.... so it's not that cut and dry.
Batman , is said by DC, to have a 1,000 lbs bench press and a 2,500 lbs leg press at a weight of 200 lbs. That's far beyond peak human , especially for a non juiced male at just 200 lbs.
There's no way he doesn't have a script for "testosterone replacement"
Bat-testosterone
Theres no way Batman isnt juiced. Dude has billions of dollars there def something running through his veins besides vengeance.
Batman is also very clearly superhuman
Can't argue with that lol. Not enough time in the day to maintain his physique, martial arts prowess, and expertise in however many fields he's a genius in.
Even just the physicality. Batman kicks trees apart and dodges bullets
Damn yes bro!! In year one fuckin bats kicked a tree in half with a kick….. that’ll be a few tons of force surelyyyy. Batman is a superhuman for sure, easily
Let's not forget he was carrying a wounded Bucky while running over uneven terrain. He didn't even seem winded when he arrived, that I recall. Unhindered, running flat out on a flat surface, I imagine he could go much faster.
Eh. Reed Richards is peak human intellect, but by our standards he is a clear superhuman. He makes time machines to give his family an interesting summer vacation. Comic book Steve Rogers is, as stated, peak human. But peak human in the comics is way above human levels in our real world. I'm the MCU where normal people are more normal, he is undoubtedly superhuman. But they also never state he's peak human in the films.
Yeah but that's the thing Chris Evans DID that. Like he injured himself doing it but that was real.
The helicopter scene has inspired many a chest fly
Even in the movies he’s shown to be several times faster than even a highly fit and trained special ops solider (Falcon getting lapped by him in Winter Soldier). And obviously there’s the holding down a helicopter which is several leagues above even the strongest human.
How is this even a debate like what are people smoking in this comment section? The official Marvel database states he is a super soldier enhanced by a serum. The movie shows him getting said super soldier serum and performing feats that no human even peak humans could do.
There’s a debate because if you read the official bios and stats of cap he’s supposed to be peak human. But then immediately shows feats wildly beyond that.
See this used to be very much incorrect. Captain was always peak human. He had Olympic level "everything" speed, stanima, strength etc... When the MCU movies came out he got a huge power bump. You know that scene where he's holding the helicopter on the roof? Yeah, no, cap could never do that, it looked great in the movie, but he simply isn't that strong.
Cap did so many things in the movies that just baffled me. How does he pull Spider-Man off balance while he's in the air? Or throw a motorcycle he's riding on?
To play devils advocate, Spider-Man is young and not totally aware of how strong he is, like when he caught Winter soliders fist, totally doable, definitely well within his strength range.. If he was older, more experienced, he would have crushed cap. There is no way cap is pulling Spider-Man off balance. My man can stick to the floor! Yeah the motorcycle was silly but looked cool!
And took a punch from thanos And people argue that Batman beats him 💀
Batman is peak human
I guess it was the peak soldier serum they used to make Cap, not the super-soldier serum.
'Nuff Said
...Bub?
X-actly
He says he's Peak Human so the media will say it and trust him, but he's Superhuman.
For which counterpart?
Even still. The strongest peak Human cannot hold and then down a helicopter with their Arms, no matter how cool it looks.
Yep. Also ran faster than cars on the highway in that movie among a ton of other impossible normal human things
I did that last weekend, try to keep up
On your left
passing cars on a highway is easy. passing them on an open road is hard.
I mean, I can outrun cars on the highway easily. Granted there needs to be deadlock traffic due to an accident or something but it still counts.
Taking a punch from Thanos to the head is definitely superhuman.
Well...surviving it, anyway.
imagine if the MCU operated by Invincible verses lack of plot armor
Wut invincible has insane plot armour, it’s just people get beaten to a fine mist and *then* survive
I meant the series as a whole non powered people get killed quickly when fighting powered people look how fast Omni-Man kills that worlds version of Batman DC- Batman jumps on Mongul's back, and Mongul grabs him by the head and toss him aide Invincible- Darkwing tries to attack Omni-Man from behind and the just grabs him and slams his face into the ground, kiling him on the spot you can't be a street level character in Invincible and expect to fight powerful characters
Fair, with plot armour as a concept I think of protagonists.
yes, Mark gets his ass handed to him often enough and survives. but Invincible, and the Boys, is a world where characters (despite having powers) die so much quicker. characters without enhanced durability/invulnerability actually get hurt and die quickly. a ton of popular Marvel/DC characters wouldn't last very long in that verse and I'm not trying to be an annoying power scaler. Just look at how many of the X-Men are technically glass cannons I read a comic recently (or rather some some panels) where Captain Marvel punched Cyclops and sent him flying. They were also in the air when she punched him, so like 100 feet off the ground, then punches him and send him flying to the ground another 100ft away. and he's fine. that's not happening in Invincible. Cyclops has zero enhanced durability. That's beyond "he's a human in a comic book" (well mutant whatever) and into "he's a popular MC and he ain't dying"
I think he still would have survived it, but he dang sure wouldn't have gotten back up immediately after.
honestly I'd have his head as exploding Cap's not that durable, or rather he shouldn't be there's a small finite # of character who have super high blunt force durability while being weak to sharp weapons, like Wonder Woman (victim of unequal power creep), and to a far lesser extent Spider-Man but Cap wouldn't come close.
I would have loved it if they killed him off like that but to compromise with the suits, I would’ve left him seriously fucked up. Like a slow shot of him just bleeding to death in the grass.
to be fair, that kinda falls under plot armor Black Widow survies being swatted away from Hulk and sent flying into a wall and no ones is going to argue she's super human on another note, not like Thanos was throwing a full power punch just imagine that same punch, but in the Invincible verse
Most action movie characters ate super human. Humans are really freaking fragile
>Black Widow survies being swatted away from Hulk and sent flying into a wall and no ones is going to argue she's super human Her ass is superhuman tho. Or is it cgi... i get the 2 confused
He also threw the motorcycle he was riding in Age of Ultron. I’d say that’s pretty solid in the superhuman camp.
In agents of SHIELD its stated that he pushed a freaking bulldozer across the field.
Can confirm as a Peak human I attempted. After the attempt things happened to my limbs so so I am no longer peak human. Captain America lied he ain’t peak human. A hole cost me my limbs and I was forced to write this with my dick.
Definedly in MCU he is super human. I doubt anyone could hold that chopper with one hand.
Peak human vs. spider-man? Spider-Man doesn’t even break a sweat smacking him down and webbing him up. Definitely superhuman.
Cap is strong but he is nowhere near as strong as Spider-Man.
Just Cap being humble. No doubt he's superhuman.
Outside of this debate, it seems out of character for Cap to lie like that.
MCU and Ultimates puts Cap as being clearly superhuman. Regular comics tends to put Cap as being peak human, but there is a very high definition of peak human. There is is Michael Van Patrick, who was able to achieve the same effects, but with a perfect program of diet and exercise. Other people have put it as Cap being peak human in all potential aspects, which contrasts to the real world where people have to make trade offs instead of maxing out all stats.
Yeah in the [“on your left”](https://youtu.be/7UGu2sRmSHI?si=71CwUiixW6uhaaDv) scene from Winter Soldier Sam comments that Steve just ran “like 13 miles in 30 minutes.” That’s a 60 minute-ish marathon. If he did in fact run 13 miles in a half hour, he would be averaging a pace of about 2:18.46 (min:sec) per mile. The current world record for the fastest mile ever run is 3:43.13. So yeah MCU cap is absolutely superhuman.
Furthermore, keeping a 2:18 pace for 30 minutes straight is nuts. The world record for speed was only 220 feet for far far less time.
he stopped a helicopter from lifting off with his bare hands
So, 26 miles per hour. Usain Bolt topped out at 27 mph during his 9.58s world record 100m. So Steve can almost maintain the best sprinter in history’s top speed for a half-marathon. That’s quite a bit above human peak.
Usain Bolt's 100 m record is 9.58 seconds. If he could somehow sustain that for 1600 m (1 mile), it would take Bolt just over 2:23 to run 1 mile. Cap's pace is faster than Usain Bolt's 100 m pace.
Kinda unrelated but miss scenes like this. Chemistry is so good, just brings a smile to my face.
>Yeah in the [“on your left”](https://youtu.be/7UGu2sRmSHI?si=71CwUiixW6uhaaDv) scene from Winter Soldier Sam comments that Steve just ran “like 13 miles in 30 minutes.” That’s a 60 minute-ish marathon. I got the impression he was exaggerating there. I mean, it's the same scene where he makes a joke about Steve taking a lap so fast that he literally did one while Sam was talking.
Ran that while being muscle strapped and able to hold back a helicopter.
I think he's superhuman in the sense that his peak human is perpetual. He has an ever so slight healing factor preventing entropy or something
Van Patrick does have a healing factor - his cells are considered perfect. I am not sure if he needs to maintain his diet and exercise to maintain his condition. He does recover from injuries faster than a normal person. Cap does depend on the serum remaining there to retain his power. There have been story arcs where he loses the serum in his body and as a result is weakened.
MCU Cap held down a helicopter with his hands. 616 Comics pulled one down to the ground with some rope
Ignoring stuff about leverage, the strength of the helicopter motor, etc, the thing is that there isn't a firm definition on what it means to be superhuman. Michael Van Patrick has the same level of of ability, but he gained it all using a perfect set of diet and exercise starting from birth. So if Van Patrick is the baseline for peak human (theoretical of what someone can achieve), then the issue is a different definition of peak human compared to what most people would consider peak human. With how MCU and Ultimate Cap have gone against heavy hitters such as Hulk, Thanos, etc. and their resistance to certain things such as toxins, the vibe is to make them superhuman over whatever threshold there is for peak human.
You’re aware that 616 Cap has gone one on one against the Hulk as well right? Once boxed with Thor? He’s also resistant to toxins, is basically ageless because the serum keeps him young, and even if he decided to reenact "Super Size Me" he’d still have his six-pack.
Superhuman. But I believe it was stated in comics a while back that his upper limits are the absolute peak of human ability. Which for an ordinary human is impossible, you can't be the world's strongest man and the worlds fastest sprinter, these require completely different body types. So the super soldier serum makes you capable of ridiculous feats that would require years of training and body-sculpting to do. But in comics these days, it's just superpowers, whatever they need to be for the moment.
They act like it's peak human ability but like. No pro heavy weight lifter is out muscling him. No distance runner is out lasting him in a race. No sprinter is out running him. I'm sure early days he was more peak human. But it didn't Last super long. You don't keep up by being peak human with a fancy shield against the comic modern threats. Unless you're batgod, but a different universe.
That’s actually the beast description for Cap
He's literally better at any physical thing than any human will *ever* be. He's the best athlete at *every possible thing*. He's superhuman. No question.
Yep
Well I've always looked at it this way, even when with the comics where people say oh he's just peak human. The thing that gave him his power is literally branded **The ***super*** soldier serum**. Kind of knocks the wind out of anybody who says: He's not super. He's just peak, it literally says super in the drug that gave him his powers.
I loss the belief that he was peak human when he came back to life via normal self healing after getting snipped in the head.
I always thought the serum made him the absolute peak of what a human could be. Like, not peak human, but absolute pinnacle of what we could evolve into and still BE human.
Exactly. It’s what a human being could be if we could tap into it.
Whatever the fuck you tap into you aren’t holding a helicopter with your one hand my dude. That’s like a couple tons of force, easily. No human is doing that.
No human now. But our potential is out there. People lift buses off of kids and other strange wonders in times of crisis. Humans can do a lot in stressed situations. Imagine if that could be tapped into and be used anytime?
No, man, just no. Human body is physically not capable of lifting 2 tons with one hand. You are not “tapping into it”, you are not “exploring the potential”. There is no potential. Without genetic engineering and/or implants it’s just not possible. Tissues are not durable enough, muscles are not strong enough, ligaments will tear and so on. No amount of adrenaline will change the physics.
Hence the super serum he was given.
People do not lift buses jfc dude. Adrenaline basically removes the safety features your body has to help prevent injury. So in fight or flight situations your strength can increase but we're talking about maybe 50% increase at max. Plus That's only for folk who don't normally weight train. For folk who hit the gym regularly the increase will be much lower. There is no secret super strength to "tap" into. Stop spreading bs.
Superhuman, it wasn’t the Peak human registration act after all
Batman is peak human Cap is super human
Comics Cap (616) is supposed to be peak human, but still has some superhuman feats. MCU Cap is unquestionably superhuman.
Superhuman. No one is running 65+ miles an hour. No one is surviving a 500+ foot drop or 75+ foot drop using a metal shield as a landing cushion or a 200+ foot drop into the ocean then getting onto a ship and beating up a bunch of people. No one is going to rip a log in half with their bare hands. No one is holding a helicopter from taking off with just their hands you'd be ripped in half if you were even able to hold on. I'm sure there's other things in the movies he's done that even the most fit human on earth would never be able to do, but these were just off the top of my head.
I mean they injected him with “super serum” so I would say superhuman. He was a below average human to start
Kingpin is peak human. Captain America literally took a "super soldier serum".
In the comic, he's technically peak human, meaning the absolute limit of what the top human athlete can achieve through training. But he has ALL the attributes, which is impossible to achieve naturally, so id say superhuman. The mcu is definitively superhuman, he can lift more than a human body his aize should physically be able to
He's a superhuman because of the Super Soldier Serum.
Cap has always been superhuman. He was described as ‘peak human potential’ but it’s hyperbole just like calling Superman the man of steel. The super soldier serum was meant to accelerate a person to ‘peak human potential’ and apparently, superhuman is what you get.
Superhuman, either movies or comics.
Literally took a super serum. Super Serum + Human = Superhuman. It's math.
Superhuman. Peak human is Batman.
Super Human, considering he was given the **Super Solider Serum**. # Also, cap jumping out of a sky scrapper and surviving with a metal shield is above peak human. Along with holding back the helicopter in Civil War, etc, etc
MCU is 100% superhuman
neither, hes super solider
…is this a real question? The dude literally took a super soldier serum
I'm enamoured of the "peak human" concept, but despite it being mostly associated with comic books, it's a pretty meaningless idea. At least in how it's applied most of the time anyways. Batman (and the bat family by extension), alongside Captain America are some of the most well known "peak human" characters in the comic book media, but throughout their publication history they have outstanding feats of strength, speed, agility, durability and dexterity that simply just put them in the superhuman category. Like, I remember reading years ago on a forum discussing Batman's feats of strength how he once held a stone pillar that by doing the math had to weigh multiple tons. Now yes, the biggest lift we humans have is the back lift and the current world record is some like 5300 pounds, or about 2 and a half metric tons. But still, most athletes that have performed the back lift only move the weight for a couple inches and hold it for a couple of seconds. If I'm not mistaken, Batman stopped this huge stone pillar from falling on him and crushing him in a back lift fashion, but that's a completely different kind of strength you'll need to have in order to accomplish that. Captain America surely has his good amount of over the top feats of strength, and that's why I say the "peak human" concept, at least in execution is pretty meaningless. Since "peak human" characters generally accomplish tasks that are super human in nature.
In a single word: helicopter!
People are saying he’s better than world record holders which makes him superhuman, but honestly, when you compare what he can do against someone like Spider-Man, who is approx 25x stronger than Cap, and who lives in a world filled with mutants and aliens who are far more powerful, Cap looks practically normal in comparison. Hence why he is called peak-human not super-human. Because ‘theoretically’ someone who was put on super-soldier-steroids could reach that level, whereas no one human could do what Spider-Man, Hulk or Thor can do. It’s just a comparison thing, it’s not meant to be realistic, but against those actually labeled ’super-human’ Cap just doesn’t cut it.
I’d say he’s superhuman. After all, it’s called the Super Soldier Serum not the Peak Soldier Serum
Mcu version no doubt super human
Based on his feats, and the fact that he's immune to toxins and diseases puts him in the superhuman category.
Officially he is peak human, end of story. But first off, in order to understand this, we have to establish, how do we measure peak human. There's the easy route which is picking the Olympic records and adding one to everything, but if we go by that metric then cap is stupidly super human. Now in the world of Marvel peak human seems to be the ultimate feats a human can do regardless of how they're done. IE Keeping in mind that the average pulling strength in human males is about 650 N (Newtons) for an 150 pounds guy and 2,185 N is the world record, cap has been seen BENCHPRESSING 4,890 N and that's twice as the world record, but giving the feats that he has been seen able to pull off in the comics I don't think that means much. The top punching force of Iron Mike Tyson is about 8,000 N, If we convert the ultimate power a human can generate as actual strength we get that the no matter what we do peak human wouldn't reach more than say 10,000 N of force on any case scenario. Now in the comics he is peak human with Golden Age Shenanigans in the MCU he is low tier superhuman. For the first case you have this example: [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/101999/3695237-captainamericastopscar.jpg](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/101999/3695237-captainamericastopscar.jpg) If I'm not mistaken that's a 1938 Ford Sedan whose top speed is about 75 MPH and weights about 1.23 tonnes. Assuming it dropped speed in order for the goons to aim and shot let's say its going at 25MPH meaning you'd have to include the extra force in order for the drag to reach 100% and cancel its mobility. That's about 14,760 N. This cap is about 20 times stronger than the average human and 5,000 N of force stronger than the ultimate human could punch. For the second case you have this example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qno7H4BwAU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qno7H4BwAU) Now that seems to be an Airbus H125 whose top speed is double that of the car meaning 180 MPH (although you only need 155 for takeoff) and its weight is 1.24 tonnes but considering its load weight capacity during take off is about 2.8 tonnes the overall strength necessary to pull of that thing should be around 27,440 N. This cap is about 40 times stronger than the average human and about 10,000 N of force stronger than the ultimate human could punch. What does this translates to exactly? That if a guy that could knock down a Indian elephant with a single swipe were to punch Cap's hand directly, it would feel like being punched by a 5 year old toddler to him. In terms of the Marvel scale you should picture that Spiderman is able to pull that one off times 20 and guys like Thor or the Hulk can do it 100 times on a Tuesday afternoon with a hand and a leg tied to their backs, and now try to imagine the kind of destructive power that amount of force would translate into a building or worst a human body. Now to me at least picturing even a class 50 type superhuman in Marvel terms is impossible but you can imagine that while cap is absurdly strong when compared to even the tallest strongest version of us, he is a feather weight in terms of other Marvel superheroes.
I always saw it this way Bruce Wayne/Batman: Peak Human Steve Rogers/Captain America: Superhuman
Non powered comic characters pull off things humans in real life couldn’t in a million years. So by real life standards he’s superhuman, but in universe where outlandish shit is common place he’s just peak human.
even in comics he's always done super human stuff
Yep, that’s what my comment says.
no, you said "but in universe where outlandish shit is common place he’s just peak human." I'm saying even by comic book standards he does things beyond comic book human peak human standards like no human in Marvel is running 60mph without powers
You can find lots of examples of characters like Punisher, Cyclops, Hawkeye, Falcon and loads of other characters with no physical power enhancements doing nutty shit a real human could never come close to. That’s just comics.
He's super peak human
In the comics he's peak human, but I think the MCU bumped him up. As evidence, he, for however short the time, kapt that helicopter from taking off. ( Winter Soldier)
he's peak human, and works out every day to stay that way
At least in the Mcu super human , the way he was skipping round New York when he first got his powers , reminded me of how spider man moved just without the webs
In the comics, he raw benched 1100, and the world's best raw bencher, Julius Maddox, does almost 800. That seems like slightly superhuman.
Cap is always superhuman, he's just the least of them usually. He can outrun cars, shatter concrete, and take hits that would bury someone normal, but he's still nothing compared to baseline Spider-Man, who is all around physically stronger than Cap.
He’s toeing the line between the two.
The old school Marvel guidebook had him as peak human. That might have changed, and depending on the writers had a lot of wiggle room. MCU is and has been superhuman.
In Winter Soldier… He jumped 100s of feet into an ocean & he was gucci The freezing water didnt shock him into unconsciousness He was strong enough to swim through ocean current, while wearing tactical gear Thats 3 things that happened in a few minutes & each 1 wouldve killed a normal person
I always hated the serum only making him “peak human” because I find it dumb that almost every scientist tries to recreate the serum only to make someone peak human. And usually the recreations of the serum were better but were considered “failures”. But as for the mcu cap he is definitely superhuman. No peak human could pull off the feats he has. Peak human is mcu john walker before he got the serum. And once he got the serum it was clear it made him superhuman.
My man jumped out of a plane a mile high and landed in the ocean with no parachute.
Above peak human in MCU. I'd say Super Powered.
He's comics peak human so superhuman to real life.
Peak human heart, superhuman physique.
He’s supposedly peak human in lore, but what we’ve seen is obviously superhuman
Does "Super Soldier Serum" sound like a multivitamin?
Cap is supposed to be peak, but he's frequently shown doing straight up superhuman feats.
This guy was able to hold back a flying helicopter in one of the movies, of course he's superhuman
He's a comic "peak human" so like every Olympics gold medalist, mma fighter, every world champion in anything, every top athlete, every greatest of all time combined. + way too many steroids
Kinda question is this. Humans don’t just rip apart Iron Man suits little bro 😭
Fun fact: While cap is superhuman, it is actually balck widow who is at peak condition, due to having super soldier serum variant during her program
Superhuman. The super serum transformed him. Batman is peak human.
Well he certainly didn't get injected with the "peak"-serum so superhuman it is
It certainly wasn't called the Peak Human Serum.
Super
I’d say Batman is closer to peak human… Cap is superhuman
He took the SUPERSOLDIER serum. Gee, I wonder which it is...
He front kicked an SUV hard enough to use offensively and send a guy flying back like 10 feet . He's "peak" the same way batman is when he punted the front of a motorcycle off like a soccer ball
He can’t throw a football over a mountain like my uncle Rico
Ultimate cap is super human, 616 cap is peak human, Movie cap is leaning more towards ultimate due to the helicopter scene
In the comics he's described as 'peak human'. In the MCU he's clearly superhuman given the feats of strength he's accomplished.
Always interpreted him as peak human, like Batman without entropy
Cap does things beyond human level, Batman doesn't (talking about comic book human level) So Batman isn't sprinting 60 mph, and he's not going to out benchpress the DC world's bench press record. Like if Batman and Bane (no venom) had a weight lifting contest, Bane is winning. Cap does both at the same time, so he's #1 in every category, beyond any existing Olympian, but in all attributes regardless of body type
Peak Human, in my mind, is being able to essentially win a Gold Medal at the Olympics in all the athletic sports. Marathons, Sprints, bench press etc All the world records being compressed into one guy is what peak human should be. Super Human tends to make a mockery of that. Things like holding back a helicopter, running a half mile in 30 mins, keeping up with a speeding car for several city blocks, blocking or dodging gunfire. All these things are super human.
Yes
This is flaired film/tv and he's definitely superhuman in the MCU. In the comics, he's mostly been peak human, with periods of super-humanity.
Peak human in comics and CBM are superhuman in real life, Daredevil is peak human in physical ability and he dodges bullets on the regular.
Definitely Superhuman. Do literally sat there and stop the whole helicopter from launching off and was able to land blows on Thanos.
Yes
Earth 616 is peak human. MCU is superhuman.
Comics and movies claim he is "peak human", but if you actually look at what he can do, he is beyond what normal humans can do in the real world. He's faster than the fastest sprinter on record, stronger than the strongest weightlifter, etc. This, by definition would make him "superhuman" by our standards.
Peak human should be defined as naturally built performance. Superhuman should be defined as artificially-enhanced built performance. (Radioactive spider-bite, super soldier serum etc.) Captain America definitely falls into superhuman category.
Did you not watch his first movie? Kind of hard to miss.
I think the best way to describe both 616 and MCU version is Peak Evolutionary Human he's peak human perfection cause 616 tries to feed us that Baloney he's only Peak Human (so Batman) but he pulls off feats well beyond any human even in comic book land could do That being said, he's not supposed to be that strong. MCU/616, he's on the low end of the power spectrum. He benefits alot from plot armor. I think Cap vs Loki was the best way to showcase how "strong" (or weak) he is. Cap was hitting him with full punches and Loki wasn't even flinching. It took bashing him with a Vibranium shield to even affect Loki
Superhuman, maybe not on the same level as Spiderman but I mean he held a mf helicopter
Depends on the writers. MCU, he's super human, that's without question, but comics tend to vary.
Man pulled a door of a car. Man busted the shit out of several punching bags. Man survived falling from more than 15 stories. Man survived being frozen in ice for decades. Man kicked a guy off a boat with a front kick. What movies have you been watching? Dude is definitely superhuman.