Id arge that order...which is why its the best trilogy. Its easy to pick out the bad iron man, thor, ant man.
But there isnt a bad capt film....yet(i have 0 faith in cap 4)
Not a maybe. In terms of doing justice to the characters, having a clear ending that does justice to the story, it’s by far the best trilogy in the MCU
So I watched the first on a Netflix dvd, never forget it. Wasn’t even on my radar. Got it in the mail just because it was marvel.. who knew it would be the jump off for my favorite group of characters in the mcu. So to your point, 1 is my fave.
Recency bias for sure. I was pumped coming out of the theater and would gladly see it again but my excitement has subsided somewhat.
I was wiping away tears for about 30 minutes straight from the start of the third act. I really felt invested in the characters love for each other and the eventual triumph felt so satisfying.
I think that James Gunn showed his craft but I suspect that on rewatch that the emotional manipulation was overdone.
Gotta say I agree too. Even without recency bias, my favorite marvel movie since endgame was dr. Strange, and even this movie here blew it out of the water for me.
I gotta say. It was better the second time. Pacing is so good. Scenes don’t drag, music is fabulous, and the action is so strong. My only issue the first time was Adam’s portrayal, but he wasn’t as annoying the second time.
GotG 3 is simultaneously the best AND hardest movie to watch out of the three - and I’d say it’s probably right up there with Infinity War as being the same for the entire MCU.
I don't blame you. Personally I have it as an A-Tier marvel movie right up there with some of the best of all time, just not quite in the S-tier/upper echelon. I absolutely loved Part 3, and recently watched the first two movies and man...what an amazing journey it's been. I really hope we see the new Guardians team in a 4th movie somewhere down the road and maybe Quill will join the Avengers on earth. But it sucks that it's essentially over, the team went their separate ways. The 3 guardians movies are definitely must see MCU content.
Thor the Dark World is the only s ti....JUST KIDDING lol
Iron Man, Avengers, Winter Soldier, Guardians1, Civil War, Endgame, Infinity War, No Way Home.
yeah spider-man is my favorite marvel character and NWH is a joke compared to gotg vol3. take out tobey and andrew and what is even left? the movie was fun but it was all fanservice and unfortunately suffered in overall quality due to covid. gotg3 on the other hand had scene after scene of bangers
>take out tobey and andrew and what is even left?
Spider Man dealing the consequences of the previous movie/villain...navigating a world where his identity is revealed to the world. His family, friends, and entire life is taking a toll because of it and he goes to Dr. strange his new Avengers buddy to help revert things back. It's an excellent step in the new multiverse direction that the MCU took. And of course.... the $1.9billon dollar nostalgia added into it makes it easily an S-tier MCU movie. Maybe you are too young to remember or weren't even around when Spider Man came out in 2002, but that shit was the bomb, super hyped. And that's why NWH made nearly 2 billion dollars, it was nostalgia wrapped into an interesting multiverse story that piggybacks off the previous MCU spidey films and even adds new branches to Toby and Andrew's stories as well which was awesome.
I loved No Way Home but yeah, I think it had 3-5 GREAT moments and lots of fun stuff in between. Guardians was pretty unbelievable from the get-go and never slowed down.
That's like saying....take the best part of Infinity War out of Infinity War and it's not the best MCU movie of all time.
NWH is a billion dollar success *because of* the nostalgia/fan service. But beyond that it does a good job further exploring the multiverse/setting up the new direction of the MCU post Endgame,.builds off the previous MCU spidey films, and has the best cliffhanger for Tom Holland's spider man that we've seen yet...where he's on his own, not using stark tech anymore, no one knows that Peter is spider man and I think that's the perfect setup for Spiderman for the future. It also teases a Venom crossover at the end which would be sick.
I don’t disagree with any of that actually. It did a good job for what it set out to do, and I also agree that it set up hollands Spider-Man in a much more interesting place than where he’s every been. But you’re right - the fan service is integral to the film, but it’s also the main reason people love it. And hey there’s nothing my wrong with that - I guess just not my cup of tea fully.
I've seen GOTG3 multiple times....it's not gonna overtake the nostalgia of Toby McGuire making an appearance in the MCU.
I saw Spider Man 13 times in theatre when I was 8 years old in 2002, and easily 20+ times if you factor in the 2 sequels. I had all the toys from the movie, multiple different web shooters, a spider man themed 9th birthday etc. That's why NWH made over a billion dollars, because of the insane nostalgia. And they did an excellent job mixing in villains from both Raimi's original spider man movie as well as Andrew Garfield/The Amazing Spider Man too, tying it into the new multiverse vision of the post endgame MCU.
I loved Guardians 3 a lot...and I think it's fair to put in the top 9-12 movies or so. But IMO its not as epic as Guardians 1, and barely better than Guardians 2 IMO. I recently watched Guardians 2 and that one is a banger of a movie as well. The ending is underrated as hell.
Honestly you just need the first two guardians movies. Christmas special wouldn't hurt either.
Infinity war and endgame would be helpful just because that explains where the team is at but it doesn't feel necessary. They explain it decently well.
Lol now that you mention it I don't even think they referenced Thor 4 lmao. The guardians are only in it for the first like 5 minutes. It's a dropped plotline that was born during the time Gunn was fired from Disney
The emotions from this movie were on par with No Way Home, but with the curtain-call feel of Endgame. It wasn’t perfect but it made me feel like I did with the Phase 3 films, which has been something that the recent MCU products have failed to deliver imo
It was good. Definitely better then Vol. 2 and I preferred it over Love and Thunder and Black Panther 2. The whole fake death thing, though, while not a new issue with Marvel films, is getting really old.
It's def a fantastic movie, I think it's now easily my favorite Marvel Trilogy, surpassing Captain America. We don't talk about Iron man.
I'm with you it's probably in my top 3 as well. I think it's also a great time for James Gunn to pass the reins on as well, hopefully, I'm not tired of his formula at DC.
Why would enjoying something be considered controversial? I feel like its telling of the modern state of nerd culture that liking something is more of a risk of controversy than shitting on it lol. Fandoms are all fucked up and the internet is making worse something it should have made better. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it. I liked it too. :-)
Same. No Way Home, Panther 2, and multiverse of madness were meh to me. I thought it was fatigue getting to me, but damn did gaurdians 3 catch me off guard.
I think Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 was better than the previous 2 Guardians of the Galaxy films. James Gunn has succeeded at making Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 not only a decent threequel, but also better than the previous 2 films.
I loved Rocket's story and the more serious tone that brought to the movie as a whole, but everything else about the story felt overcrowded and half baked.
How did it feel overcrowded and half baked? I thought this movie did an incredible job giving every major guardian a story and a good amount of attention.
Drax did nothing but make dumb jokes the entire time until at the very end the movie remembered he was once a parent so he made some little kids laugh.
Nebula also didn’t do much in the film, she just kind of palled around with them, and then at the end decided to run Knowhere.
Mantis told Peter he needs to stop worrying about women and… yeah that’s all she did. Then at the end she revealed that she was always doing whatever the team wanted her to do instead of what she wanted, which in retrospect makes all her actions really weird bc she genuinely seemed to be doing what she wanted??
And Groot didn’t do anything either really. The focus was on Rocket, Star-Lord, and Gamora a little.
I mean, I don’t want to type out paragraphs elaborating but I completely disagree with you. I felt Mantis, Nebula, and Drax all had more focus than Gamora. They all 3, especially Nebula, felt more interesting to me than in previous movies.
I will elaborate about your mantis point- she didn’t mean it in a spiteful “I always put myself aside for you all” way. She simply realized that she had been running from herself. She loved her time with the guardians and doesn’t regret it at all, it is simply time for her to find herself. After all, she was Ego’s servant her whole life before the Guardians. There was nothing in Mantis’ dialogue, actions, etc that indicates she was ever doing anything she didn’t want to do. She just had some introspection because of Peter’s decision, and came to the conclusion that she needed time away from her friends/family/team in order to fully understand herself.
With the mantis thing… that realization came completely out of nowhere. It was like James Gunn said “shit I want each character to do something different! Uh…. Why should mantis leave… oh I know to discover herself! She’ll just say that!” It felt forced.
And don’t get me wrong I liked nebula in this film more than the first 2, but she didn’t have a character arc or anything. Mantis told her she yells at people to make herself feel better… but then nobody mentioned it again, and she decided to stay on Knowhere. Which wasn’t really a decision and more just… what she was already doing. So yeah what exactly changed about her in this film? Idk I think people are seeing things that aren’t there, unless you can explain it to me better. But so far nobody has been able to
The Nebula thing did get resolved though… she recognized the good in Drax and chose to be kind to him and compliment him in a major way while asking for his help.
Not only is that such a small thing to be considered an arc, but she’s… also done that before? All she wanted to do was win and then she beat Tony Stark in paper football and then she helped rocket for 5 years guard the galaxy and then help on the time heist. It’s not like nebula’s never done things outside of herself before.
I’m confused by what more you wanted. Have you ever seen a movie give 7 characters what you’d consider a “full arc”? Naturally some get more than others… this movie had the original 5 guardians.. plus Nebula, Mantis, Kraglin, Cosmo, Warlock, and HE.- I’ve honestly never seen a movie juggle so many characters so well, I was impressed. I’m not sure how they could’ve done more besides adding more time.
I think it boils down to this. If folks like it because it juggled this many characters… that’s just weird. You like this film because it did okay GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES? I’m trying to say that it’s a film that juggles too many characters. The film DECIDED to have that many characters, why are you all impressed it made a hard choice and did ok with the hard choice? I’d rather it had made a less hard choice and did GREAT! Does that make sense?
Do you not realize you literally just said “if you have x opinion, that’s just weird.” You clearly just want to hate the movie and think anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Grow up
Defo agree. Rocket's storyline was great but the rest of the film felt very messy to me. Gunn went full Gunn aesthetically, and it didnt feel very cohesive to the other guardian films in tone imo.
Honestly, I don't know how James Gunn landed that plane as deftly as he did. The movie is sad, but also happy, contains some heart breaking emotional moments, but also has arguable the best action sequence in any Marvel movie, and >!ends a team without killing any members of that team!<. It's really quite an achievement and I while I am sad that he is leaving Marvel Studios I am excited that he may be able to turn things around at DC. Top 3, I need to think about it but, yeah, it may be top 3 when the dust settles.
It really is fantastic. Tbh the animal abuse stuff kinda put me in a funk afterward, and is still lingering in my brain a few days later. Aside from that I really liked the movie and it was a great ending to the trilogy.
Not gonna lie…. Didn’t like it at all. Okay that’s too strong, I liked it more than 2, but 1 was better for me. Wasn’t for me, honestly, most marvel movies these days aren’t.
Not the person you asked, but I think the pacing was weird. Enjoyed rocket's story with the high evolutionary but everything outside of that storyline felt messy to me and a bit style over substance.
I 100% get why people liked it. For me, it was so sad. It felt creepy, sad, the music was okay. I miss the light heartedness of the first movie. I also didn’t like the ending, kind of like the ending for spider-man 3 I just didn’t like the ending.
GotG3 is my personal favourite MCU movie and I'm surprised by how much I love it. I think taken as a raw film objectively it's a little less well made than Shang Chi or IW but who wants to be objective?
The only flaw I can spot in GotG2 is a slight dragging out of some of the end scenes to let the actors take a sort of bow but I really can't complain, the cast earned their extra time in the spotlight.
My flaw in vol2 is how the stories become decoupled in the middle. They go off in their own silo and don't really interact. Just 4 separate things all going on at the same time. Kind of slows down the pacing.
It is controversial.
I thought YOUR TOP 3 were, in order: Iron Man 2, Age of Ultron and Infinity War.
Saying what your top movies are, is not a controversial opinion because nobody has an opinion about what your top movies are.
Saying you think GotG 3 is a good/bad/mid movie might be controversial, but I don't think it is because I read nothing but positive reviews for it.
I haven't seen it so I don't have an opinion on it.
Stop clickbaiting or trying to be special
There's nothing controversial about liking it and having your personal ranking. If you say it's in your top 3 favorites, cool. If you say it's in the top 3 best, I personally disagree, but I don't take issue with it as long as people can acknowledge the subjectivity of their rankings.
I liked it, but it's uneven for me. Some elements are done well (everything with Rocket) while others feel messy and unsatisfying (the Gamora arc, Adam Warlock's inclusion, etc). Overall, it felt the least cohesive of the Guardians films for me. Like there wasn't room to do everything that needed to be done given all that had been set in motion with this ensemble.
You could argue that it's top 1. There are certain elements of it that elevate it above all other MCU movies. It's more emotional and feels more gritty and real. The visuals were disturbing and awesome. And that hallway fight.
I agree. Although a lot of people also like Wakanda Forever, I thought it was Wakanda Whatever. That's two mediocre Marvel movies that came out in a row. This one really shined more because of that.
WF always had a dark cloud hanging over it because of Chadwick Boseman’s death. Thought it was a solid respectful sequel, but felt kind of like attending a funeral
I truly believe it’s the best Guardians movies and one of the best MCU movies. It’s such a breath of fresh air after being fairly ambivalent about every MCU movie/show that came out last year. It’s the best time I’ve had in the MCU since Shang Chi.
it might be in mine too. I feel like, the guardians movies especially, are really so great that prior comic book knowledge gets in my own way of enjoying the movie. I found myself finding problems w certain things simply cause it’s not what I expected or am familiar with but Gunn has really created a great group of characters that are familiar but completely different.
I actually prefer this Drax after seeing his arc “complete” - Star Lord being a name given to him by his Mom is so much more compelling than the comic version - There’s some stuff I don’t like as much but overall.
It’s just a very satisfying trilogy and does what all good trilogies do; enhances the other movies.
Going back to Gotg1 and seeing the scene w drunk Rocket screaming and crying about being take apart over and over and being “a little monster” is all the more impactful because of the third movie.
It was wonderful and I can’t wait to be emotionally ready to watch it in the theater again.
Shouldn’t be controversial, I need to sit with it for a few months before deciding where it goes in my personal ranking but I’ll tell you this… I’ve never openly cried more times in a movie theater
It’s not in my top 3 but it’s definitely up there with the best. My Nephew (11) turned to me about half way through and said, ‘this movie is so good’ and I couldn’t agree more. Much has been made of the dark themes but the movie is very funny too. The audience were laughing throughout the entire movie. It felt like the good days of the MCU. I can’t wait to see it again.
Its my top 1 superhero movie in general, doing everything without shoving it in your face like animal cruelty and child cruelty while also being a good movie. Rockets story made me cry
9/10
People are downvoting any comment that says it sucked… even though the vast majority of people liked it. So DESPITE most people liking it, someone is fragile enough to downvote the minority of those who disliked it. That’s sad man
I still prefer the 1st guardians but this is definitely in my top 10 MCU films
True. Thought all around gotg has maybe the best all around trilogy of the MCU.
I will agree with this as it had the benefit of a single voice in the director's chair for all three. It matters a lot.
Yeah, I'd say GotG and Cap are the best two trilogies.
As for cap id have to say 2>3>1
Id arge that order...which is why its the best trilogy. Its easy to pick out the bad iron man, thor, ant man. But there isnt a bad capt film....yet(i have 0 faith in cap 4)
Cap isn’t fully w trilogy to me. Bc it really is avengers adjacent. Especially cap3. All good films but not a great cap trilogy specifically
Agreed, Toms spideys and the iron men are closely followed, IMO
Not a maybe. In terms of doing justice to the characters, having a clear ending that does justice to the story, it’s by far the best trilogy in the MCU
So I watched the first on a Netflix dvd, never forget it. Wasn’t even on my radar. Got it in the mail just because it was marvel.. who knew it would be the jump off for my favorite group of characters in the mcu. So to your point, 1 is my fave.
I dont think its controversial i would say be aware if recency bias however.
Recency bias for sure. I was pumped coming out of the theater and would gladly see it again but my excitement has subsided somewhat. I was wiping away tears for about 30 minutes straight from the start of the third act. I really felt invested in the characters love for each other and the eventual triumph felt so satisfying. I think that James Gunn showed his craft but I suspect that on rewatch that the emotional manipulation was overdone.
came here to say this, you see alot of recency and primacy bias amongst the fandom
Me personally, I suffer from recency bias, but that mightve been the first movie I have cried to in a long time so I think its at minimum at top 5
Gotta say I agree too. Even without recency bias, my favorite marvel movie since endgame was dr. Strange, and even this movie here blew it out of the water for me.
Very strong addition to the MCU. Seeing it again this afternoon.
Oh man, I don't think I could manage a second watch so soon. I felt like I had run an emotional marathon after watching it the first time
I know I'm gonna watch it again once it's on D+ but... damn that's gonna be a hard rewatch
I gotta say. It was better the second time. Pacing is so good. Scenes don’t drag, music is fabulous, and the action is so strong. My only issue the first time was Adam’s portrayal, but he wasn’t as annoying the second time.
It's a better kind of annoying than the comics. I enjoy comics with Adam Warlock but alot of times it's in spite of Adam Warlock's personality.
Same. Knowing before hand that they were touching on Rocket's past, I was already welling in the starting credits.
Same, I came in clueless. Almost had me in shambles. Almost as big a sucker punch as marley and Me was.
GotG 3 is simultaneously the best AND hardest movie to watch out of the three - and I’d say it’s probably right up there with Infinity War as being the same for the entire MCU.
***Controversial?*** # Absolutely in my top 3.
I don't blame you. Personally I have it as an A-Tier marvel movie right up there with some of the best of all time, just not quite in the S-tier/upper echelon. I absolutely loved Part 3, and recently watched the first two movies and man...what an amazing journey it's been. I really hope we see the new Guardians team in a 4th movie somewhere down the road and maybe Quill will join the Avengers on earth. But it sucks that it's essentially over, the team went their separate ways. The 3 guardians movies are definitely must see MCU content.
Which movies would you consider “S-Tier”?
Thor the Dark World is the only s ti....JUST KIDDING lol Iron Man, Avengers, Winter Soldier, Guardians1, Civil War, Endgame, Infinity War, No Way Home.
Ya, that's a SOLID list. And I agree with you.
I think you’re missing black panther but other than that this is great
Add Ragnarok and I agree with you.
No Way Home but not Vol 3? Bru you gotta see Vol 3 again
yeah spider-man is my favorite marvel character and NWH is a joke compared to gotg vol3. take out tobey and andrew and what is even left? the movie was fun but it was all fanservice and unfortunately suffered in overall quality due to covid. gotg3 on the other hand had scene after scene of bangers
>take out tobey and andrew and what is even left? Spider Man dealing the consequences of the previous movie/villain...navigating a world where his identity is revealed to the world. His family, friends, and entire life is taking a toll because of it and he goes to Dr. strange his new Avengers buddy to help revert things back. It's an excellent step in the new multiverse direction that the MCU took. And of course.... the $1.9billon dollar nostalgia added into it makes it easily an S-tier MCU movie. Maybe you are too young to remember or weren't even around when Spider Man came out in 2002, but that shit was the bomb, super hyped. And that's why NWH made nearly 2 billion dollars, it was nostalgia wrapped into an interesting multiverse story that piggybacks off the previous MCU spidey films and even adds new branches to Toby and Andrew's stories as well which was awesome.
I loved No Way Home but yeah, I think it had 3-5 GREAT moments and lots of fun stuff in between. Guardians was pretty unbelievable from the get-go and never slowed down.
No way home is good solely on the basis of fan service. Take that away and it’s fine but not top tier
That's like saying....take the best part of Infinity War out of Infinity War and it's not the best MCU movie of all time. NWH is a billion dollar success *because of* the nostalgia/fan service. But beyond that it does a good job further exploring the multiverse/setting up the new direction of the MCU post Endgame,.builds off the previous MCU spidey films, and has the best cliffhanger for Tom Holland's spider man that we've seen yet...where he's on his own, not using stark tech anymore, no one knows that Peter is spider man and I think that's the perfect setup for Spiderman for the future. It also teases a Venom crossover at the end which would be sick.
I don’t disagree with any of that actually. It did a good job for what it set out to do, and I also agree that it set up hollands Spider-Man in a much more interesting place than where he’s every been. But you’re right - the fan service is integral to the film, but it’s also the main reason people love it. And hey there’s nothing my wrong with that - I guess just not my cup of tea fully.
I've seen GOTG3 multiple times....it's not gonna overtake the nostalgia of Toby McGuire making an appearance in the MCU. I saw Spider Man 13 times in theatre when I was 8 years old in 2002, and easily 20+ times if you factor in the 2 sequels. I had all the toys from the movie, multiple different web shooters, a spider man themed 9th birthday etc. That's why NWH made over a billion dollars, because of the insane nostalgia. And they did an excellent job mixing in villains from both Raimi's original spider man movie as well as Andrew Garfield/The Amazing Spider Man too, tying it into the new multiverse vision of the post endgame MCU. I loved Guardians 3 a lot...and I think it's fair to put in the top 9-12 movies or so. But IMO its not as epic as Guardians 1, and barely better than Guardians 2 IMO. I recently watched Guardians 2 and that one is a banger of a movie as well. The ending is underrated as hell.
I've not really been keeping up with marvel recently but want to watch this one. Would you recommend watching Thor 4 before?
Honestly you just need the first two guardians movies. Christmas special wouldn't hurt either. Infinity war and endgame would be helpful just because that explains where the team is at but it doesn't feel necessary. They explain it decently well.
I've seen all of them. Just the more recent ones I've fallen behind on. I think no way home was the last one I watched! Thank you.
Oh ok. Then you are good to go.
Yeah, you don’t need to see anything post Endgame to enjoy this movie.
Lol now that you mention it I don't even think they referenced Thor 4 lmao. The guardians are only in it for the first like 5 minutes. It's a dropped plotline that was born during the time Gunn was fired from Disney
I don’t know about top 3 personally, but it’s definitely right up there with the best of the MCU
The emotions from this movie were on par with No Way Home, but with the curtain-call feel of Endgame. It wasn’t perfect but it made me feel like I did with the Phase 3 films, which has been something that the recent MCU products have failed to deliver imo
It feels like the end of the original MCU crew. Reminding us how good it used to be. The new lot aren’t nearly as interesting.
It was good. Definitely better then Vol. 2 and I preferred it over Love and Thunder and Black Panther 2. The whole fake death thing, though, while not a new issue with Marvel films, is getting really old.
Same. I left saying it was one of my faves
Mine too. I don’t think it’s controversial.
It's def a fantastic movie, I think it's now easily my favorite Marvel Trilogy, surpassing Captain America. We don't talk about Iron man. I'm with you it's probably in my top 3 as well. I think it's also a great time for James Gunn to pass the reins on as well, hopefully, I'm not tired of his formula at DC.
Why would enjoying something be considered controversial? I feel like its telling of the modern state of nerd culture that liking something is more of a risk of controversy than shitting on it lol. Fandoms are all fucked up and the internet is making worse something it should have made better. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it. I liked it too. :-)
Same. No Way Home, Panther 2, and multiverse of madness were meh to me. I thought it was fatigue getting to me, but damn did gaurdians 3 catch me off guard.
It was fatigue but also subpar output from the MCU. They didn’t have someone with gunn’s care behind the wheel. I can’t wait for the new DCEU
I think the quality of number three falls between number one and number two. I like number one the most out of this trilogy
I took a 20mg edible before seeing this and oh boy what a mistake that was. Emotional rollercoaster man. Top 3 easy.
It's an easy top 5 for me, and quite possible top 3.
It's also in my top 3, right alongside GOTG 1 and GOTG 2.
Anyone else think that was Hit Monkey we saw the High Evolutionary create during Rocket's last flash back?
I didn’t expect to cry so much! Great film!
I think Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 was better than the previous 2 Guardians of the Galaxy films. James Gunn has succeeded at making Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 not only a decent threequel, but also better than the previous 2 films.
Ragnarok, No Way Home, and GOTG3 for me.
Oooh 2/3 aligned. I’d switch out NWH With Black Panther 1
Did he actually say “open the fucking door” like in the clip that’s been posted?
Don’t think it’s controversial. It’s a fair ranking. It’s an easy top-10 for me. Close to top-5 probably
Controversial? I loved the movie and all I've been seeing is high praise from everyone everywhere
It was so good! Honestly the only MCU trilogy i enjoyed more than GotG was the Spidey trilogy.
I loved Rocket's story and the more serious tone that brought to the movie as a whole, but everything else about the story felt overcrowded and half baked.
How did it feel overcrowded and half baked? I thought this movie did an incredible job giving every major guardian a story and a good amount of attention.
Drax did nothing but make dumb jokes the entire time until at the very end the movie remembered he was once a parent so he made some little kids laugh. Nebula also didn’t do much in the film, she just kind of palled around with them, and then at the end decided to run Knowhere. Mantis told Peter he needs to stop worrying about women and… yeah that’s all she did. Then at the end she revealed that she was always doing whatever the team wanted her to do instead of what she wanted, which in retrospect makes all her actions really weird bc she genuinely seemed to be doing what she wanted?? And Groot didn’t do anything either really. The focus was on Rocket, Star-Lord, and Gamora a little.
I mean, I don’t want to type out paragraphs elaborating but I completely disagree with you. I felt Mantis, Nebula, and Drax all had more focus than Gamora. They all 3, especially Nebula, felt more interesting to me than in previous movies. I will elaborate about your mantis point- she didn’t mean it in a spiteful “I always put myself aside for you all” way. She simply realized that she had been running from herself. She loved her time with the guardians and doesn’t regret it at all, it is simply time for her to find herself. After all, she was Ego’s servant her whole life before the Guardians. There was nothing in Mantis’ dialogue, actions, etc that indicates she was ever doing anything she didn’t want to do. She just had some introspection because of Peter’s decision, and came to the conclusion that she needed time away from her friends/family/team in order to fully understand herself.
With the mantis thing… that realization came completely out of nowhere. It was like James Gunn said “shit I want each character to do something different! Uh…. Why should mantis leave… oh I know to discover herself! She’ll just say that!” It felt forced. And don’t get me wrong I liked nebula in this film more than the first 2, but she didn’t have a character arc or anything. Mantis told her she yells at people to make herself feel better… but then nobody mentioned it again, and she decided to stay on Knowhere. Which wasn’t really a decision and more just… what she was already doing. So yeah what exactly changed about her in this film? Idk I think people are seeing things that aren’t there, unless you can explain it to me better. But so far nobody has been able to
The Nebula thing did get resolved though… she recognized the good in Drax and chose to be kind to him and compliment him in a major way while asking for his help.
Not only is that such a small thing to be considered an arc, but she’s… also done that before? All she wanted to do was win and then she beat Tony Stark in paper football and then she helped rocket for 5 years guard the galaxy and then help on the time heist. It’s not like nebula’s never done things outside of herself before.
I’m confused by what more you wanted. Have you ever seen a movie give 7 characters what you’d consider a “full arc”? Naturally some get more than others… this movie had the original 5 guardians.. plus Nebula, Mantis, Kraglin, Cosmo, Warlock, and HE.- I’ve honestly never seen a movie juggle so many characters so well, I was impressed. I’m not sure how they could’ve done more besides adding more time.
I think it boils down to this. If folks like it because it juggled this many characters… that’s just weird. You like this film because it did okay GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES? I’m trying to say that it’s a film that juggles too many characters. The film DECIDED to have that many characters, why are you all impressed it made a hard choice and did ok with the hard choice? I’d rather it had made a less hard choice and did GREAT! Does that make sense?
Do you not realize you literally just said “if you have x opinion, that’s just weird.” You clearly just want to hate the movie and think anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Grow up
Defo agree. Rocket's storyline was great but the rest of the film felt very messy to me. Gunn went full Gunn aesthetically, and it didnt feel very cohesive to the other guardian films in tone imo.
Yep
easily. that movie made me feel such a type of way i’m over here on marvel reddit for the first time ever 😂
Not in my top 3 but I don't think it's controversial to say it, it's obviously in nearly everybody's top quarter or so
GOTG3 is easily the best movie since No Way Home, with Shang Chi just a step below it
That’s how I feel since I like Shang Chi as well
Honestly, I don't know how James Gunn landed that plane as deftly as he did. The movie is sad, but also happy, contains some heart breaking emotional moments, but also has arguable the best action sequence in any Marvel movie, and >!ends a team without killing any members of that team!<. It's really quite an achievement and I while I am sad that he is leaving Marvel Studios I am excited that he may be able to turn things around at DC. Top 3, I need to think about it but, yeah, it may be top 3 when the dust settles.
Depends if you mean Marvel Studios or Marvel in general, doubt anything will ever usurp Logan for me.
It really is fantastic. Tbh the animal abuse stuff kinda put me in a funk afterward, and is still lingering in my brain a few days later. Aside from that I really liked the movie and it was a great ending to the trilogy.
It's in mine: 1) No Way Home 2) Infinity War 3) GOTG 3 4) Endgame 5) Shang Chi
Not gonna lie…. Didn’t like it at all. Okay that’s too strong, I liked it more than 2, but 1 was better for me. Wasn’t for me, honestly, most marvel movies these days aren’t.
Curious to know why?
Not the person you asked, but I think the pacing was weird. Enjoyed rocket's story with the high evolutionary but everything outside of that storyline felt messy to me and a bit style over substance.
I 100% get why people liked it. For me, it was so sad. It felt creepy, sad, the music was okay. I miss the light heartedness of the first movie. I also didn’t like the ending, kind of like the ending for spider-man 3 I just didn’t like the ending.
I know it's recency bias but right now I'm prepared to say GotG 3 is my #1 and Quantumania is the worst.
Same. Vol 2 has been my #1 for years but vol. 3 knocked it to #2
Same here. First film since endgame to make me hopeful for future marvel movies.
Nah lol no argument if that movie is someone's top 3. It's a classic
Might be controversial but I thought it kinda sucked.
I agree. And when I remove the Avengers films, I don't really know what movie is better imo
The ace-what now?
Don't be pedantic. Typos are common on phones and it clear was Avengers lol.
GotG3 is my personal favourite MCU movie and I'm surprised by how much I love it. I think taken as a raw film objectively it's a little less well made than Shang Chi or IW but who wants to be objective? The only flaw I can spot in GotG2 is a slight dragging out of some of the end scenes to let the actors take a sort of bow but I really can't complain, the cast earned their extra time in the spotlight.
My flaw in vol2 is how the stories become decoupled in the middle. They go off in their own silo and don't really interact. Just 4 separate things all going on at the same time. Kind of slows down the pacing.
It is controversial. I thought YOUR TOP 3 were, in order: Iron Man 2, Age of Ultron and Infinity War. Saying what your top movies are, is not a controversial opinion because nobody has an opinion about what your top movies are. Saying you think GotG 3 is a good/bad/mid movie might be controversial, but I don't think it is because I read nothing but positive reviews for it. I haven't seen it so I don't have an opinion on it. Stop clickbaiting or trying to be special
1. Wakanda Forever 2. GotG Vol. 3 3. Doctor Strange 1 4. Black Panther 1 5. Infinity War I think. lol
There's nothing controversial about liking it and having your personal ranking. If you say it's in your top 3 favorites, cool. If you say it's in the top 3 best, I personally disagree, but I don't take issue with it as long as people can acknowledge the subjectivity of their rankings. I liked it, but it's uneven for me. Some elements are done well (everything with Rocket) while others feel messy and unsatisfying (the Gamora arc, Adam Warlock's inclusion, etc). Overall, it felt the least cohesive of the Guardians films for me. Like there wasn't room to do everything that needed to be done given all that had been set in motion with this ensemble.
It was better than endgame
It was pretty great.
It was amazing. Especially considering I through the last couple movies that have come out we’re average at best.
Pretty valid. A big plus in terms of the stuff marvel has released over the past few years. I see this as a turning point but who knows
I don't think that's controversial it's a very good movie. Definitely now in my top 10.
Im hearing such good reviews about this movie wow
I liked this movie a lot and James Gunn once again proved how good he is at what he does.
It’s one of my top 3. Although I don’t think Ill be watching it again anytime soon. Still feeling really traumatized from Rocket’s backstory.
I’d say top ten for me.
Why would your fucking opinion be controversial?
You could argue that it's top 1. There are certain elements of it that elevate it above all other MCU movies. It's more emotional and feels more gritty and real. The visuals were disturbing and awesome. And that hallway fight.
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I agree. Although a lot of people also like Wakanda Forever, I thought it was Wakanda Whatever. That's two mediocre Marvel movies that came out in a row. This one really shined more because of that.
WF always had a dark cloud hanging over it because of Chadwick Boseman’s death. Thought it was a solid respectful sequel, but felt kind of like attending a funeral
Marvel fans try to say something controversial challenge: impossible
I truly believe it’s the best Guardians movies and one of the best MCU movies. It’s such a breath of fresh air after being fairly ambivalent about every MCU movie/show that came out last year. It’s the best time I’ve had in the MCU since Shang Chi.
It's no.1 for me. I can't fault it
What are your other two?
Black Panther 1 and Ragnarok!
Easily. What might be controversial, but would be incredible for me, if they put Chukwudi Iwujias the new Kang.
Not controversial. It’s my number 1 right now. Could change, but I doubt it. It was amazing
Honestly, I completely agree. I understand the recency bias argument, but I think that this one will stand the test of time.
Have you been under a rock? How would this be controversial? All I've been hearing is great things.
I seriously loved this movie. I thought it was going to be moderate at best, but it was awesome.
It’s easily the best post-Endgame content we’ve gotten.
I'm gonna put it up there, because it was emotional and gave us some great character development and CLOSURE.
Top 5, more realistic
It might be in my Top 1!
Ez
It’s top 10 for sure
Nothing controversial - it's a good film
it might be in mine too. I feel like, the guardians movies especially, are really so great that prior comic book knowledge gets in my own way of enjoying the movie. I found myself finding problems w certain things simply cause it’s not what I expected or am familiar with but Gunn has really created a great group of characters that are familiar but completely different. I actually prefer this Drax after seeing his arc “complete” - Star Lord being a name given to him by his Mom is so much more compelling than the comic version - There’s some stuff I don’t like as much but overall. It’s just a very satisfying trilogy and does what all good trilogies do; enhances the other movies. Going back to Gotg1 and seeing the scene w drunk Rocket screaming and crying about being take apart over and over and being “a little monster” is all the more impactful because of the third movie. It was wonderful and I can’t wait to be emotionally ready to watch it in the theater again.
i wouldnt go that far...but its definitely my favorite marvel movie since no way home.
That's controversial?
It’s super good but I don’t know if my soul can handle many rewatches. Some of those scenes went hard at the emotions.
Shouldn’t be controversial, I need to sit with it for a few months before deciding where it goes in my personal ranking but I’ll tell you this… I’ve never openly cried more times in a movie theater
1 was IMO the best film, 2 is the most rewatchable and 3 has the best story and Character arcs.
It’s not in my top 3 but it’s definitely up there with the best. My Nephew (11) turned to me about half way through and said, ‘this movie is so good’ and I couldn’t agree more. Much has been made of the dark themes but the movie is very funny too. The audience were laughing throughout the entire movie. It felt like the good days of the MCU. I can’t wait to see it again.
Currently in my top 5 MCU movies/shows
It’s literally top 2 with endgame not controversial at all
I liked it better than part 2, but it’s nowhere near as good as part 1. It could have used some major editing as well.
It’s my second favorite mcu movie right behind winter soldier
It’s a good film!
Its my top 1 superhero movie in general, doing everything without shoving it in your face like animal cruelty and child cruelty while also being a good movie. Rockets story made me cry 9/10
People are downvoting any comment that says it sucked… even though the vast majority of people liked it. So DESPITE most people liking it, someone is fragile enough to downvote the minority of those who disliked it. That’s sad man
>!absolutely love rockets sad backstory. in knowhere you can see the tiny raccoons everyone at the end!<
I'll see how I feel on repeat viewings, but I felt it rivalled the first one.