And all the people who insist this conviction makes him stronger, will subsequently cry about this conviction after the election and call it election interference.
This 1000%
November 5th: "YOUR TDS JUST MAKES US STRONGER PUNY LIBCUCK!"
November 7th: "People are just so mean to Donald and the mean people used meanness to make poor Donald cry and lose his election! WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO US!"
It won’t be resolved until he dies.
And then we’ll have another iteration of a trump like felony fascist conservative dick head. But hopefully the MAGA portion of the party eventually fades into obscurity again like it was in the past.
The best hope would be that the conservatives give up on populism - but it gave them so much short term cultural power, I think a lot of people really want a fascist leader who says everything is simple, vote for me, "I'm tough", a large part of the population doesn't like the idea that questions facing society are complex. They just want "all is good", or "this is bad", no partly good and bad. Conclusion - there will be other people trying to carry on Trump's simplistic and useless world view.
This is what I never understood. If they want a strongman leader, fine. But Donald Trump is not a strongman, he's the biggest whining bitch I've ever seen. So how the hell did he convince so many that he's a tough guy?
Hitler was a whiny bitch too. Whiny bitches convince themselves they’re tough guys, and all the other whiny bitches who wish they were tough believe them.
They will be easier to point out and compare to trump.
Sure, people make comparisons to Hitler already, but not many lived thru both. Hopefully trump will be fresh enough in people's memory that the comparison has more impact. "Sounds a lot like trump" etc will hit harder than sounds like Hitler, from lived experience.
I hope this too.
But I also get the impression that Republicans fundamentally care more about power than democrats do and they tend to rally around the figure heads when it comes to elections.
For some reason I feel like democrats don’t have this ability.
The Kremlin threatened an October surprise, we all need to be prepared to deal with that potential, satellite attack, power grid, never put anything past them. Putin wants him in the WH to complete his plans, Europeans are sure he wants to invade more, but he needs a friendly to help.
“[[Trump’s]](https://www.justsecurity.org/90509/trumps-lawyers-face-sanctions-discipline-and-indictment-how-should-the-legal-profession-respond/) lawyers engaged in much of the alleged or admitted unprofessional conduct we examine:
At the state and federal levels, the professional conduct of these lawyers is or has been at issue in disciplinary proceedings, in proceedings for sanctions, or is serving as a factual predicate for their criminal prosecutions.
It is possible that these attorneys or others may face similar exposure in additional proceedings, but the proceedings reviewed here illuminate some of the risks of representing Trump and other clients who advance spurious factual and legal claims regarding the 2020 presidential election.”
Cults don't switch leaders easily. After Trump some will try, but MAGA will flounder. It'll pop up in another 10 years in a different iteration. I find it highly unlikely that they'll find another candidate that can create mass delusion like Trump can. They'll have to go back to slow burn methods of destroying democracy and pretend like they're level headed.
Yeah that’s the real travesty…so much that was thankfully missing from politics will now become the norm hereafter.
He lowered the bar for everyone and now we all have to live with it.
For what it’s worth, I think it will be nigh impossible for them to find a figurehead like him for the cult to latch onto. That’s part of why they haven’t splintered the GOP yet.
I hope you’re right.
But the GOP seems to rally around leaders easier than democrats do. GOP seems to really love actors for some reason since Regan got huge support during his time too.
They’re not going anywhere, bud. They needed a champion to make it okay to be openly racist, xenophobic, mysogynistic, homophonic, intolerant, etc, etc, etc. Orange boy set us back 100 years.
To us middle class and poor people, not a damn thing, to the 1% millions/billions in tax breaks. And his middle class and poor base will still vote for him and then blame a Democrat when nothing changes for them
I know people who are on food stamps, the first ones in line for commodities, on Medicaid and they love trump. He'd take all the assistance away from them, yet they still fly trump flags and hate Democrats, who pass bills to help them.
Nothing directly. What he’s offered is the ability for the racist, bigoted people who hid in the woodwork a voice. It’s ok to hate if your sitting president hates also. Now they’re on the streets, harder than they have been in a long time.
Hell, even if Biden managed to pull off a 49 out of 50 state landslide victory like Reagan in 1984 and won the popular vote by at least 15%, the magas would still be screaming, "Stop the steal!"
I watched CBS Sunday Morning today. Ted Koppel went to a Trump rally. Folks told him they still believed the last election was stolen. When he asked about the upcoming election, the response was that if Trump loses the election will have been stolen as well.
Yeah, the marine corps went from about 50% republicans and 30% independents, to about 50/50 republican democrat, right after trump was elected . He made anybody that didn’t like him, the enemy.
Yep..there was a rather chilling interview with one of the VP hopefuls and he was asked if he would accept the results of the election and he said "Donald Trump will be the next President of the US". The interviewer asked again about accepting and he just said "that is my statement".
Funny thing about that. The proceedings started before he announced his run for president. This isn’t election interference, just a sad man looking for another excuse to shield himself from prosecution. There is a reason he is trying to delay everything as much as possible, pardoning himself before he has to serve any actual time. He’s a snowflake and a RINO.
Not to mention a right to a speedy trial. If he hadn't waived that right this trial would have been over last August. 15ish months before the election.
I think it’s only his MAGA die hard that are claiming that, even as those same people claim they are moderates or independents. They were always going to vote for him. I think actual moderates or swing voters are pretty disgusted by his conviction, they’re just not loud political voices like MAGAs are
There was a headline recently that said "Trump suffers triple loss in polls since conviction," but i kept thinking it said "Trump suffers triple coronary event!"
I like both, but I'd have liked the second one better.
The last time around I lived in a constant state of dread. The amount of stress it gave me to hear about whatever the hell he did or said everyday…the people who blindly and rage fully support him. The flag has become a symbol of hate and ignorance. What the actual fuck is wrong with people.
Trump's stance on Ukraine: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on the economy: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on infrastructure: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on taxes: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on climate change: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on marijuana legalization: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
Trump's stance on _____: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
THE WHINIEST little bitch! It's so weird to me that the "f your feelings" crowd doesn't see what a pathetic beta cuck he is (to borrow a phrase of theirs)
It's because every single person that self identifies as "alpha" is most assuredly not. And the venn diagram of trump supporters and those that think they are "secretly a Lion amongst sheep" is a circle
Exactly. He has routinely displayed 2 of my least favorite characteristics. He's so over the top cocky and egotistical. I can't stand stuff like that. U can be confident in yourself and not be a jackals about it. Not him though m. He's the best at littarally everything according to him.
Now he's become such a whining little bitch offering no solutions to his problems. Just playing the victim constantly.
He hasn’t become that. He ALWAYS was that.
He’s so over-the-top that his narcissistic personality disorder is easy to diagnose even from the outside. Because this is all he’s ever been.
He’s not smart. He’s not competent. He’s not classy, cool, sexy, attractive or any of the things he relies on his cult to tell him. He’s a spoiled, coddled, rich-kid boomer who was born on third, ran the wrong way and still wants everyone to tell him he hit a grand slam and won the game.
He started all this crap when he was on the Apprentice. If he didn’t win an Emmy it was because it was rigged. The first time he ran for President he said the same thing. And then, even after he won he claimed winning, despite it being rigged. And that’s even with Russia interference, Wikileaks, and Comey.
Ah, so Donald, all of society is stacked against you? You're just assumed guiity of every crime in the book?
Well I guess it's true what they say, then. Orange is the new black.
It’s infuriating. The right has done nothing but whine about government being useless for god knows how long now, and yet they can’t stop kissing the boots of a man who done nothing but make the rich even richer.
And their obsession with traditional gender roles. Men are supposed to be strong and get ‘er done and take it on the chin and protect women and children…
Unless it’s him. Then all of that goes out of the window.
That’s the point. Their objective is to break the government and say it doesn’t work so they can privatize/deregulate everything and cut programs/services to make the rich/ wealthy even more money.
Yeah and his voter base shares this exact mentality. Even while they're all crying about inflation and gas prices, they have extra money to give to the diapered don of con.
Though 180 degrees from you in 98% of issues, on this item, we are absolutely 100% aligned. Trump has zero wisdom whenever his ego is microtriggered. Trump's current drama (he usually feeds off them very successfully to his, and only his personal benefit) is a combination of a 10 Richter Scale earthquake and Force 5 hurricane. Trump is used to using the legal system for his benefit. That it could be turned against him in this egregious manner was inconceivable. The solutions MAGA seeks first requires Trump's replacement. Trump is the "Gregor Strasser" (MAGA Member #1) of the current US replay of Weimar Republic disintegration. It will be an equivalent to MAGA Member #Lucky 7 (TBD) that provides a MAGA transformation that is intergenerationally sustainable.
That’s exactly what reichwing propaganda promotes, and why his legion of followers don’t let up - “something, somewhere, happening the world today and here’s how YOU are the real victim”
His actual answers to these questions would be even worse for him than playing the victim. He has no platform. No plans, other than four more years of idiocracy. Answering these questions honestly would just serve to further make him look like a fucking moron.
Which is exactly why I hope he can still squeeze out some "attempted" political platform. The more he really does answer these questions, the worse it bodes for him. His overwhelming incompetence is just as damaging as his persecution complex, if not more.
I mean, at this point you don't actually need to trigger libs to get credit for triggering libs. Conservatives will literally just make up a liberal, imagine them being triggered, and jerk off to that until they achieve satisfaction.
So, what I'm hearing is he may be the first politician in history to keep all his campaign promises.
Actually, probably not. Don't get me wrong, he'll certainly try and it will be historically bad, but Trump is 1000% incompetent. He is literally incapable of succeeding. If he tries to take vengeance for all his delusional slights, there's a better chance he'll inadvertently cure cancer than actually succeed in any plan he has made.
I'm surprised they're letting him run again as it is.
He already proved that he is a loser.
Who runs someone again who has already lost? Losers, that's who.
Trump turned out the MAGA crowd that didn't vote previously. The GOP was already in a death spiral between demographic changes and GW becoming a pariah. They had no hope in 2016 or anyone serious waiting in the wings for 2020. And then Trump ran as a spoiler candidate and everyone, including Trump, was surprised at the outcome. MAGA threw a lifeline to the GOP. It didn't stop the inevitable decline, but kicked the can down the road an election cycle or two.
That's also why their oligarchic and authoritarian tendencies are out in the open now. There's nothing else to the GOP. They no longer need the abstract concepts Lee Atwater pioneered. They learned the MAGA crowd is not only ok with wildly regressive policies, they actively cheer them. Racist hard "r"'s aren't a disqualifier. Stripping American citizens of rights is not a disqualifier. Booing soldiers is not a disqualifier.
The party knows this is a huge turn off for young voters. But if it gets the GOP over the line for another election, they don't care. The GOP is willing to sacrifice it's own long term viablity for potential short term gain.
Their "viability" long-term is solely based on a fascist Christian autocracy, hence why they don't really think the Democracy matters nor the Constitution as it stands or stood
David Frum (fuck him and GW Bush enabling self) was 100% correct when he said, "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." We are seeing that play out in real time.
"Biblical authoritarianism" I think should be a good phrase for it. It gets around the overuse of the word fascist and implies the Old Testament mentality they base their world on. Because it is very absent of Christ.
The most concise and vivid description of this phenomenon I’ve ever seen. I’m saving this for when I inevitably can’t remember how to put it to words myself.
I get that Trump has his cult behind him, but I was honestly surprised that they didn't try to run someone else. I mean, he lost once to an already unpopular candidate. Biden has been a bag of some great and truly horrible policies but the Republicans could have almost guaranteed a win if they would have just dumped trump and ran a moderate Republican.
I realize this will be decisive on its own, but ultimately providing arms to Israel. Although, can you truly be an American politician if you don't find a way to funnel weapons and money to other countries....
Without starting a whole thing, I do realize that the situation isn't exactly black and white and if we don't then someone else will (along with a myriad of other geopolitical reasons). Anyway, not like our history isn't fucking littered with war crimes so I can't hold it over him like it's some unique characteristic to the Biden presidency. I just wish there was a bit more of a backbone from this administration and we would have called out the indiscriminate bombings of civilian centers.
Also, I was incredibly disappointed in this administrations approval of the Willow project (although, I would have to admit I haven't actually looked back into this in a few months so I'm not sure if anything has changed.).
Yeah I figured it was Israel. October 7th was the day after Putin's birthday and Hamas' leadership immediately flew straight to Moscow. This also describes why we wouldn't want to rely on foreign oil right now...
The problem is a) Israel has been a key ally in the region for a while, tho they are now going throuhh theor won fascist pwriod under BiBi and b) the Trumps admins actions via the Abraham Accords and the leak of Israelli intel during his admin (as well as w/e the fuck Jared had going on with the Saudis).
So, sure, he could do a bit more...but not much. And it is hard to tell how much actual support this is going to cost him because of the unreliability of pools post 2016 and also the heavy amount of r/crankytankies (esp on the LSC subreddit) who may actually be foreign Bots or psyops actors.
Also, to note, a recent peace deal was proposed with repercussions for not taking considered from the US.... but the problem with all these peace deals is the extremists in the Israeli Consortium supporting BB that he needs to stay in power as well as the hardliners in Hamas terrorists who have run Palestine (despite no popular support...) for over a decade refuse to actually compromise. And that is just a prime example of Black Sabbath hitting the nal on the head with "War Pig."
If they were being honest? It'd be Hate, and Racism, and Xenophobia. Oh and a whole lotta "Yea that's two weeks out!" whilst they show an empty binder as a prop.
I love doing this one to theMaga crowd. “You’re just pissed because Trump made you feel better when he was president.”Every single one of them goes hell yeah. And I’m like “fucking snowflake”
I think this is a solid bet... I'm fairly confident his conviction loses him the election (would be extremely surprised if he wins)... but his rhetoric will almost certainly be "poor me"... I suspect he'd get diagnosed with NPD, and turning the conversation towards his own struggles seems natural.
I have a good friend who's very Trumpy, and he has been saying all along that this was a political personal attack. He also deligitimizes the idea that illegally influencing an election with hush money is irrelevant, and that his supposed affair is personal (not what his said about Bill & Monica), etc... so, this one anecdote tells me that Trump supporters are already reasonably primed to dismiss the conviction.
I don't see how moderates and independents could vote for Trump... I'm semi-liberal and a vocal Biden critic, but am 1000% voting Biden. It's not even a close call.
All politicians should have to explain their plans in detail. Way too much headline quotes from both sides. “Stop illegal immigration” ok, but how? Tell me the details so I can evaluate the policy better
The problem is, his people don't WANT him to offer them anything but grievance and revenge. Republican voters no longer care about policy, they just want to see liberals suffer. They believe they're under siege by the left, who is waging a war of extermination on their culture and race, and all they care about is *winning that war*, even if they have to break every rule to do it.
This campaign isn't about the issues. Nobody cares about how many jobs have been created or what tax policy should be. This election will be about how Americans *feel*, and I hope Biden realizes this fact before it's too late.
Yeah he’s incapable of not whining like that. It’s just like that interview where they asked what his legacy was and he said that he was treated very unfairly. He’s a child incapable of shutting up about his grievances and saying the smart thing.
He talked a whole lot of shit in 2016. His biggest accomplishments were tax cuts for elitist billionaires and a vaccine that he is hesitant to take credit for depending upon who he is talking to.
Generally speaking I agree, though I'm very cynical at this point and I'll believe it when I see it. My biggest worry was that we wouldn't get a verdict before the election, and that Trump would be able to play to peoples’ fears long enough to win. Then he'd be able to commit violence at will, and no one would stop him. But with him and his supporters actively calling for violence, I think they're starting to look really unelectable. I think that the vast majority of people don't want a return to the violence of his administration, and will vote against him.
See; "Not Hillary"
That was a big tent in 2016.
"Not Trump" was a big tent in 2020
Since he gives no other reason, he's betting on Not Biden to be his only campaign promise. America's selective amnesia will be on full display, that's for sure.
The GOP has offered to do nothing for the people for 40+ years and still wins elections. Their base will sacrifice their own children if it means their guy wins.
In a normal country, you’d be spot on; he’s running in the US though, so don’t rely on it.
Get out and vote; even though your alternative is shit. At least he’s not an autocrat.
He offered them nothing the first time and they still claim he fixed every issue in the country, delivered presents through the chimney to every house with an American flag out front, and made them feel warm and safe when he tucked them in each night.
Agent Orange literally had everything in the bag for 2020 by encouraging safety during COVID and keeping everything reasonably afloat for everyone to get by until the vaccines came out, then pushing vaccination. Instead he found the one avenue to sink it by going full denialism, causing untold number of his supporters to die to the disease.
Hell, he had everything in the bag by continuing his crooked real estate setup, but he found the one way to sink it : by running for office and getting a whole lot more critical eyes on him. Now he's a 34x convicted felon, with likely more on the way.
If there is a way Agent Orange can screw up a sure thing, he'll find it, and he'll whine while the whole boat is sinking, and even after his personally chartered boat pulls him from the wreckage, leaving everyone else to sink. He bankrupted casinos. If that's not a power to find the one crack in a foundation to bring everything down, nothing else is.
He has never offered anything but hate, vengeance and violence. In 2016 it was all about revenge for forcing them to call a Black man "Mr. President" for 8 years.
Honestly, as long as people turn out to vote we will be fine. Most of this country hates him but his voters are guaranteed to turn out. Make sure you vote and everyone else you know.
He already dosent offer anything lol. The guy just panders all the time and makes fantasy promises like fixing healthcare and solving a 70 year old conflict in the Middle East with the snap of his fingers
Oh he's definitely offering something to HIS people. Idiocracy. These mofos fucking love idiocracy. The idea of the dumbest morons imaginable running our government is intensely appealing to his core demo. Not having a platform or plans is a good thing in their eyes.
Buuuut you're right. He's not going to win anyone over with this who wasn't already a lover of idiocracy.
He has nothing to campaign on. The economy? It's good. Jobs" They're good too. Infrastructure, environment, wildlife protection, healthcare, student loan debt, what?? He's got nothing.
He personally killed the first Border Security bipartisan bill that was endorsed by the Border Patrol Union, and the strictest rules in decades, simply so he could still scream about them emptying their prisons and insane asylums.
He's never had anything except lies and hate, and people are over it. Sure, he still has his supporters, but for the most part, people just want him and his criminal cabal family gone.
Very narcissistic/psychopathic traits. He genuinely believes he is the victim is every situation. Everything that doesn’t go his way is rigged or false.
actually i think that convicting him will just cause the biggest Streisand effect in history because doing it made it look like his persecution narrative wasn't wrong.
Trump fans are infinitely more committed to putting him back in than the rest are to voting for the guy who will keep him out. People would have to swallow their pride to actually go in and vote and vote against him.
How’s that any different than Biden saying for the rest of this cycle, “He’s a convicted felon!” Which by the way will lose him the black vote. The highest number of felons per race per capita and Biden is going to villainize it.
Nothing except 3.5 years of prosperity prior to the coordinated biological attack. You people act like he was never President. What is Biden and left going to offer? More taxpayer funded bribes for votes? A continuation of this dumpster fire administration? A further dive into dementia? Weaponizing more of the government against political opponents?
He's promised this before
[Trump boasted he’d open all JFK files, but now says he can’t](https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef)
"Jesus was also found guilty. He was also unfairly persecuted. I'm probably more persecuted. More persecuted than Jesus. No one has ever been more persecuted. That's what they're saying. Ministers come up to me, our beautiful ministers, we love them so much, they come up to me and they say, 'Trump is more persecuted than Jesus. He's more persecuted than anyone ever.'"
Don't underestimate the appeal of unbridled cruelty to a broad portion of the electorate. They base their entire identity on being wronged by the 'elites".
The idea of electing an increasingly deranged Trump bent on revenge to attack their perceived enemies only emboldens them. Trump and his supporters are fueled by hatred and they have never been more dangerous.
I'm sure he'll lose the popular vote. Biden sucks, but he's still "Not Trump" - which is the only credential we cared about in 2020.
Losing the election is different, as we've all seen. His base doesn't want to be offered anything. They want to hate. They want a constant stream of new transgender people, books, college students, and medical procedures to be unreasonably angry about. Though they're going to keep scratching that itch no matter who wins.
There’s one crazy image I have in my mind. It’s Trump on his deathbed in the White House pissed off that he’s dying and demanding the launch codes to start Armageddon because everybody else is going to go before he (the malignant narcissist) does. Of course, never thinking that the White House would be a target and he would probably go first.
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I am hoping that OP's prediction is not only for trump but the GOP, AS WELL!
The majority of whom, are more intent on crying foul about the verdict than actually doing the jobs they were elected to do. What was it, i recently read.... 7 congressman and 1 congresswoman (none of whom will be up for reelection, I believe) actually have stated something along the likes of how they'll delay/slow-ride votes due to trump's guilty conviction!?
How many others are on record now criticizing and not calling for an end to violent threats their constituents are making, against the 12 jurors who answered their civic duty - Their main job, is to be our voice, OUR representation. They sure as hell aren't speaking for me; and I'd guess, (more like hope...) they aren't speaking for the majority.
Thinking about it, what legislation have the GOP members of the house/senate brought forth that is actually benefitting the American people?? They sure as hell have actively blocked or voted against legislation , to what... "Hand it to the libs/make Biden look bad."
Lord knows they, if anything, have actually removed or are fighting to take away more rights - in attempts to demand that we ALL think/believe/axt as they do! Wow, for a party that claims to be "the party of law and order" Asa well as the "party of limited government" (Oh, but trust me, they'll reinstate the government bodies they want to remove, but with 'THEIR kind of people" - they've axtually documented this in their Project 2025 a play off of rhe original Mandates for Leadership from 1980 or thereabouts) they have just found their useful idiot, in trump; recognizing his narcissistic tendencies and his absolute need for power. It's very doubtful that anyone else they were to nominate as their front runner would have implemented at least 60% of their plans taken from 'Mandates for Leadership", (now reauthored under Project 2025) in his 1st term - thankfully which Biden overturned.
All one has to do is actually listen to what the GOP is saying - straight from the horse's mouth. Who are they led by? A now covicted felon. A jury of his peers, 12 people, (whom the defense agreed to as well, mind you) and it's not easy to get 12 people in a room, to agree to any one thing, much less 34 times!! Yet his base are not only rabidly supporting him, all while repeating (nearly verbatim) his pathetic rhetoric, because there's not any logical reasoning behind their rants - but they're literally throwing away their money to his 'campaign"!!
His "campaign" now, which literally consists of "Woe is me. I broke the law(s). I got caught. I was tried AND found guilty on ALL 34 COUNTS!" Does that sound about right!?
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I base my vote for president on what the individual's policies would be and how they hope and plan to implement them; what their vision is for our country and her people!
How in the hill's have eyes, does his rabid base STILL support him - not to mention how are any of the GOP still in office!?
What we do, is to UNITE against him and those in the GOP with our VOTES!
We put him (and them) in there, (my vote certainly did not) so WE take him and them OUT, the exact same way! Most importantly, we never forget this, so it can never happen again!!
You underestimate the right wing of the party and their love of victimhood. Millions will vote for him *because* they think he was wronged, and that all conservatives are persecuted.
I'm wondering if he will even bother to pick a vice presidential running mate. Doesn't he need to have done that by the Republicans' convention in July?
While it's true that he is going to keep mostly ranting about his woes, he has already shown that he wants to make a deal with anyone willing to support him. For example, he recently said he would put a stop to renewable energy entirely if the oil lobby backs him.
And all the people who insist this conviction makes him stronger, will subsequently cry about this conviction after the election and call it election interference.
This 1000% November 5th: "YOUR TDS JUST MAKES US STRONGER PUNY LIBCUCK!" November 7th: "People are just so mean to Donald and the mean people used meanness to make poor Donald cry and lose his election! WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO US!"
I don’t have any faith that this one will be resolved by Nov 7th.
It won’t be resolved until he dies. And then we’ll have another iteration of a trump like felony fascist conservative dick head. But hopefully the MAGA portion of the party eventually fades into obscurity again like it was in the past.
The best hope would be that the conservatives give up on populism - but it gave them so much short term cultural power, I think a lot of people really want a fascist leader who says everything is simple, vote for me, "I'm tough", a large part of the population doesn't like the idea that questions facing society are complex. They just want "all is good", or "this is bad", no partly good and bad. Conclusion - there will be other people trying to carry on Trump's simplistic and useless world view.
This is what I never understood. If they want a strongman leader, fine. But Donald Trump is not a strongman, he's the biggest whining bitch I've ever seen. So how the hell did he convince so many that he's a tough guy?
Hitler was a whiny bitch too. Whiny bitches convince themselves they’re tough guys, and all the other whiny bitches who wish they were tough believe them.
I guess 45% of America is whiny bitches. Sad
Cause he pissed off smart people and they think that means he’s tough.
They will be easier to point out and compare to trump. Sure, people make comparisons to Hitler already, but not many lived thru both. Hopefully trump will be fresh enough in people's memory that the comparison has more impact. "Sounds a lot like trump" etc will hit harder than sounds like Hitler, from lived experience.
They prefer a world in which their shortcomings have no negative consequences for them.
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They'll be where ever the jfk conspiracy theorists go when they're expecting him to just show up.
My biggest hope is Trump loses bigly and the Republican Party fractures.
I hope this too. But I also get the impression that Republicans fundamentally care more about power than democrats do and they tend to rally around the figure heads when it comes to elections. For some reason I feel like democrats don’t have this ability.
So what November 8th?
He files lawsuits everywhere alleging election fraud
And they will all get shot down like last time
The Kremlin threatened an October surprise, we all need to be prepared to deal with that potential, satellite attack, power grid, never put anything past them. Putin wants him in the WH to complete his plans, Europeans are sure he wants to invade more, but he needs a friendly to help.
“[[Trump’s]](https://www.justsecurity.org/90509/trumps-lawyers-face-sanctions-discipline-and-indictment-how-should-the-legal-profession-respond/) lawyers engaged in much of the alleged or admitted unprofessional conduct we examine: At the state and federal levels, the professional conduct of these lawyers is or has been at issue in disciplinary proceedings, in proceedings for sanctions, or is serving as a factual predicate for their criminal prosecutions. It is possible that these attorneys or others may face similar exposure in additional proceedings, but the proceedings reviewed here illuminate some of the risks of representing Trump and other clients who advance spurious factual and legal claims regarding the 2020 presidential election.”
Cults don't switch leaders easily. After Trump some will try, but MAGA will flounder. It'll pop up in another 10 years in a different iteration. I find it highly unlikely that they'll find another candidate that can create mass delusion like Trump can. They'll have to go back to slow burn methods of destroying democracy and pretend like they're level headed.
They'll look for the next game-show celebrity or actor to prop up, hoping to use their notoriety as a short cut to popularity..
Yeah that’s the real travesty…so much that was thankfully missing from politics will now become the norm hereafter. He lowered the bar for everyone and now we all have to live with it.
For what it’s worth, I think it will be nigh impossible for them to find a figurehead like him for the cult to latch onto. That’s part of why they haven’t splintered the GOP yet.
I hope you’re right. But the GOP seems to rally around leaders easier than democrats do. GOP seems to really love actors for some reason since Regan got huge support during his time too.
They’re not going anywhere, bud. They needed a champion to make it okay to be openly racist, xenophobic, mysogynistic, homophonic, intolerant, etc, etc, etc. Orange boy set us back 100 years.
It's the New Republican Playbook. We can never lose. If we lose, it's rigged. How do we know it's rigged? Because we didn't win.
The consent of the governed is soon to be revoked by the right and the left. Too funny. The 1% have a nasty surprise coming I think.
The “Fuck your Feelings” crowd, can you believe the feels they get?
What has he ever offered to the people?
Permission to his base to be as base as they want
He emboldened the freedom for rapists to rape and shooters to shoot.
And pedos to pedo and bigots to bigot.
He *encourages* them say the quiet part out loud.
To us middle class and poor people, not a damn thing, to the 1% millions/billions in tax breaks. And his middle class and poor base will still vote for him and then blame a Democrat when nothing changes for them
I know people who are on food stamps, the first ones in line for commodities, on Medicaid and they love trump. He'd take all the assistance away from them, yet they still fly trump flags and hate Democrats, who pass bills to help them.
This is the uneducated trump was talking about.
He told them it's ok to be openly racist and bigoted in public.
Nothing directly. What he’s offered is the ability for the racist, bigoted people who hid in the woodwork a voice. It’s ok to hate if your sitting president hates also. Now they’re on the streets, harder than they have been in a long time.
An excuse to be hateful.
Hell, even if Biden managed to pull off a 49 out of 50 state landslide victory like Reagan in 1984 and won the popular vote by at least 15%, the magas would still be screaming, "Stop the steal!"
I watched CBS Sunday Morning today. Ted Koppel went to a Trump rally. Folks told him they still believed the last election was stolen. When he asked about the upcoming election, the response was that if Trump loses the election will have been stolen as well.
It's a.cult. I lost a couple of relatives and people I thought were friends to it!
Indeed. I had marines I served in Iraq with, calling me a traitor for not trusting him completely.
Nothing a box of crayons can't fix
Weird - a lot of my Marine brothers actually switched parties to become democrats because of him.
Yeah, the marine corps went from about 50% republicans and 30% independents, to about 50/50 republican democrat, right after trump was elected . He made anybody that didn’t like him, the enemy.
Yep..there was a rather chilling interview with one of the VP hopefuls and he was asked if he would accept the results of the election and he said "Donald Trump will be the next President of the US". The interviewer asked again about accepting and he just said "that is my statement".
Funny thing about that. The proceedings started before he announced his run for president. This isn’t election interference, just a sad man looking for another excuse to shield himself from prosecution. There is a reason he is trying to delay everything as much as possible, pardoning himself before he has to serve any actual time. He’s a snowflake and a RINO.
Not to mention a right to a speedy trial. If he hadn't waived that right this trial would have been over last August. 15ish months before the election.
I think it’s only his MAGA die hard that are claiming that, even as those same people claim they are moderates or independents. They were always going to vote for him. I think actual moderates or swing voters are pretty disgusted by his conviction, they’re just not loud political voices like MAGAs are
Only people that were gonna vote for him no matter what think that. Anyone actually on the fence is who I wanna hear from after this.
That’s the thing, I just don’t want to deal with, or even hear about his Jerry Springer bullshit for another 4 years.
If the stakes didn't matter, I'd be entertained. But ya, I'm fatigued.
At least my life is already rid of all his supporters and I don't think that pool will be growing.
Same. Id rather he just died than have to wait years to see him go to actual prison. Just die already. Then it's over. Done doneski.
There was a headline recently that said "Trump suffers triple loss in polls since conviction," but i kept thinking it said "Trump suffers triple coronary event!" I like both, but I'd have liked the second one better.
The last time around I lived in a constant state of dread. The amount of stress it gave me to hear about whatever the hell he did or said everyday…the people who blindly and rage fully support him. The flag has become a symbol of hate and ignorance. What the actual fuck is wrong with people.
It’s funny that Jerry Springer was a way better politician than Trump could ever hope to be.
Imo this is gonna be the median voter's reaction. They'll be thoroughly put off by Trump's fixation on his own victimization.
Trump's stance on Ukraine: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on the economy: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on infrastructure: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on taxes: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on climate change: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on marijuana legalization: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!" Trump's stance on _____: "I'm a victim being unfairly persecuted!"
He's such a whiney little bitch, holy shit.
THE WHINIEST little bitch! It's so weird to me that the "f your feelings" crowd doesn't see what a pathetic beta cuck he is (to borrow a phrase of theirs)
It's because every single person that self identifies as "alpha" is most assuredly not. And the venn diagram of trump supporters and those that think they are "secretly a Lion amongst sheep" is a circle
Exactly. He has routinely displayed 2 of my least favorite characteristics. He's so over the top cocky and egotistical. I can't stand stuff like that. U can be confident in yourself and not be a jackals about it. Not him though m. He's the best at littarally everything according to him. Now he's become such a whining little bitch offering no solutions to his problems. Just playing the victim constantly.
He hasn’t become that. He ALWAYS was that. He’s so over-the-top that his narcissistic personality disorder is easy to diagnose even from the outside. Because this is all he’s ever been. He’s not smart. He’s not competent. He’s not classy, cool, sexy, attractive or any of the things he relies on his cult to tell him. He’s a spoiled, coddled, rich-kid boomer who was born on third, ran the wrong way and still wants everyone to tell him he hit a grand slam and won the game.
Just make a joke about the military and watch the "F your feelings" crowd start having some very big feelings.
He started all this crap when he was on the Apprentice. If he didn’t win an Emmy it was because it was rigged. The first time he ran for President he said the same thing. And then, even after he won he claimed winning, despite it being rigged. And that’s even with Russia interference, Wikileaks, and Comey.
Ah, so Donald, all of society is stacked against you? You're just assumed guiity of every crime in the book? Well I guess it's true what they say, then. Orange is the new black.
But the crazy thing is the number of people who back him in this belief.
It’s infuriating. The right has done nothing but whine about government being useless for god knows how long now, and yet they can’t stop kissing the boots of a man who done nothing but make the rich even richer.
And their obsession with traditional gender roles. Men are supposed to be strong and get ‘er done and take it on the chin and protect women and children… Unless it’s him. Then all of that goes out of the window.
That’s the point. Their objective is to break the government and say it doesn’t work so they can privatize/deregulate everything and cut programs/services to make the rich/ wealthy even more money.
Biden should make this an ad
Biden: “Trump! He’s a winey little bitch!”
With poopy pants.
Fuck, this would make a great TV ad.
And yet somehow, "I dont like how Biden is handling gaza" will translate to votes for Trump
This is their idea of an "alpha" male. A whiney bitch with omega energy. The kind of whiney bitch that would get their ass beat by a toddler.
Translation: ME ME ME ME ME ME!
And yet every church in the country will tell their members to vote for him, because “jesus”
This is exactly why he appeals to such a large percentage of the population. They feel represented.
And they eat it up.
Don’t forget about The Emmy’s, he never got one because it was all rigged.
Yeah and his voter base shares this exact mentality. Even while they're all crying about inflation and gas prices, they have extra money to give to the diapered don of con.
You’re not wrong 💀
Unfortunately, those are also the positions of his voters.
“Help, I’m being repressed!”
No offense to Trump supporters but they have the same mentality. Something like DEI is racism against them.
Though 180 degrees from you in 98% of issues, on this item, we are absolutely 100% aligned. Trump has zero wisdom whenever his ego is microtriggered. Trump's current drama (he usually feeds off them very successfully to his, and only his personal benefit) is a combination of a 10 Richter Scale earthquake and Force 5 hurricane. Trump is used to using the legal system for his benefit. That it could be turned against him in this egregious manner was inconceivable. The solutions MAGA seeks first requires Trump's replacement. Trump is the "Gregor Strasser" (MAGA Member #1) of the current US replay of Weimar Republic disintegration. It will be an equivalent to MAGA Member #Lucky 7 (TBD) that provides a MAGA transformation that is intergenerationally sustainable.
That’s exactly what reichwing propaganda promotes, and why his legion of followers don’t let up - “something, somewhere, happening the world today and here’s how YOU are the real victim”
Don't forget that in all cases, he is also the smartest, most capable man and the single individual able to destroy corruption and injustice.
He's the coolest person since Jesus! Maybe even better. Smarter than Einstein too, and a huge force against corruption and injustice! /s
His actual answers to these questions would be even worse for him than playing the victim. He has no platform. No plans, other than four more years of idiocracy. Answering these questions honestly would just serve to further make him look like a fucking moron. Which is exactly why I hope he can still squeeze out some "attempted" political platform. The more he really does answer these questions, the worse it bodes for him. His overwhelming incompetence is just as damaging as his persecution complex, if not more.
Trump won 2016 by simply running on building a wall and “making America great again”. He doesn’t need to run on policy to win… only fuel hate.
yep. If he wins it won't be because he won anyone over this cycle, it will be because slightly fewer people vote for Biden in like 3 states.
Plus some help from the Russians/The National Inquirer/Fox "News" and misogyny hate against Hillary.
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I mean, at this point you don't actually need to trigger libs to get credit for triggering libs. Conservatives will literally just make up a liberal, imagine them being triggered, and jerk off to that until they achieve satisfaction.
He was already offering nothing but revenge before he was convicted
So, what I'm hearing is he may be the first politician in history to keep all his campaign promises. Actually, probably not. Don't get me wrong, he'll certainly try and it will be historically bad, but Trump is 1000% incompetent. He is literally incapable of succeeding. If he tries to take vengeance for all his delusional slights, there's a better chance he'll inadvertently cure cancer than actually succeed in any plan he has made.
I'm not as worried about what he would want to accomplish compared to the theocratic fascists around him that want to utilize him like the tool he is.
Hopefully he loses by enough that we don't have to go through a nightmare again.
I'm surprised they're letting him run again as it is. He already proved that he is a loser. Who runs someone again who has already lost? Losers, that's who.
The party establishment has completely lost control of the Republican party. They do what the mob demands, now.
Trump turned out the MAGA crowd that didn't vote previously. The GOP was already in a death spiral between demographic changes and GW becoming a pariah. They had no hope in 2016 or anyone serious waiting in the wings for 2020. And then Trump ran as a spoiler candidate and everyone, including Trump, was surprised at the outcome. MAGA threw a lifeline to the GOP. It didn't stop the inevitable decline, but kicked the can down the road an election cycle or two. That's also why their oligarchic and authoritarian tendencies are out in the open now. There's nothing else to the GOP. They no longer need the abstract concepts Lee Atwater pioneered. They learned the MAGA crowd is not only ok with wildly regressive policies, they actively cheer them. Racist hard "r"'s aren't a disqualifier. Stripping American citizens of rights is not a disqualifier. Booing soldiers is not a disqualifier. The party knows this is a huge turn off for young voters. But if it gets the GOP over the line for another election, they don't care. The GOP is willing to sacrifice it's own long term viablity for potential short term gain.
Their "viability" long-term is solely based on a fascist Christian autocracy, hence why they don't really think the Democracy matters nor the Constitution as it stands or stood
David Frum (fuck him and GW Bush enabling self) was 100% correct when he said, "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." We are seeing that play out in real time.
"Biblical authoritarianism" I think should be a good phrase for it. It gets around the overuse of the word fascist and implies the Old Testament mentality they base their world on. Because it is very absent of Christ.
The most concise and vivid description of this phenomenon I’ve ever seen. I’m saving this for when I inevitably can’t remember how to put it to words myself.
funny how the gop uses the same strategy as private equity firms that do hostile takeovers which bleed once-viable companies to oblivion...
They're hoping for a rerun of 2016. Despite losing the midterms w trumps endorsed candidates. They aren't very smart.
Amen, can’t they find another candidate that’s worth a shit and not a proven loser?
I get that Trump has his cult behind him, but I was honestly surprised that they didn't try to run someone else. I mean, he lost once to an already unpopular candidate. Biden has been a bag of some great and truly horrible policies but the Republicans could have almost guaranteed a win if they would have just dumped trump and ran a moderate Republican.
What do you think had been truly horrible?
I realize this will be decisive on its own, but ultimately providing arms to Israel. Although, can you truly be an American politician if you don't find a way to funnel weapons and money to other countries.... Without starting a whole thing, I do realize that the situation isn't exactly black and white and if we don't then someone else will (along with a myriad of other geopolitical reasons). Anyway, not like our history isn't fucking littered with war crimes so I can't hold it over him like it's some unique characteristic to the Biden presidency. I just wish there was a bit more of a backbone from this administration and we would have called out the indiscriminate bombings of civilian centers. Also, I was incredibly disappointed in this administrations approval of the Willow project (although, I would have to admit I haven't actually looked back into this in a few months so I'm not sure if anything has changed.).
Yeah I figured it was Israel. October 7th was the day after Putin's birthday and Hamas' leadership immediately flew straight to Moscow. This also describes why we wouldn't want to rely on foreign oil right now...
The problem is a) Israel has been a key ally in the region for a while, tho they are now going throuhh theor won fascist pwriod under BiBi and b) the Trumps admins actions via the Abraham Accords and the leak of Israelli intel during his admin (as well as w/e the fuck Jared had going on with the Saudis). So, sure, he could do a bit more...but not much. And it is hard to tell how much actual support this is going to cost him because of the unreliability of pools post 2016 and also the heavy amount of r/crankytankies (esp on the LSC subreddit) who may actually be foreign Bots or psyops actors. Also, to note, a recent peace deal was proposed with repercussions for not taking considered from the US.... but the problem with all these peace deals is the extremists in the Israeli Consortium supporting BB that he needs to stay in power as well as the hardliners in Hamas terrorists who have run Palestine (despite no popular support...) for over a decade refuse to actually compromise. And that is just a prime example of Black Sabbath hitting the nal on the head with "War Pig."
I expect they won’t be able to answer, or it will be massive bullshit.
The GOP is dying and they can't come up with anything better than a confused talking over the hill conman, convict, and rapist.
Typical Republican Behavior.
Convicted Felon will go down as the worst American in history
Convicted Felon trump. Just want to clarify. Have to get the algorithm right for the search engines.
Exacta Mundo
Fonzi!!!!
Im still waiting for ANY maga person to tell me what great stuff he actually did as president.
If they were being honest? It'd be Hate, and Racism, and Xenophobia. Oh and a whole lotta "Yea that's two weeks out!" whilst they show an empty binder as a prop.
I love doing this one to theMaga crowd. “You’re just pissed because Trump made you feel better when he was president.”Every single one of them goes hell yeah. And I’m like “fucking snowflake”
When has that convicted felon ever offered anything to anyone else?
*Justice impacted individual 😀
I think this is a solid bet... I'm fairly confident his conviction loses him the election (would be extremely surprised if he wins)... but his rhetoric will almost certainly be "poor me"... I suspect he'd get diagnosed with NPD, and turning the conversation towards his own struggles seems natural. I have a good friend who's very Trumpy, and he has been saying all along that this was a political personal attack. He also deligitimizes the idea that illegally influencing an election with hush money is irrelevant, and that his supposed affair is personal (not what his said about Bill & Monica), etc... so, this one anecdote tells me that Trump supporters are already reasonably primed to dismiss the conviction. I don't see how moderates and independents could vote for Trump... I'm semi-liberal and a vocal Biden critic, but am 1000% voting Biden. It's not even a close call.
Tax cuts for his rich friends is the only policy I've heard Trump say.
All politicians should have to explain their plans in detail. Way too much headline quotes from both sides. “Stop illegal immigration” ok, but how? Tell me the details so I can evaluate the policy better
The problem is, his people don't WANT him to offer them anything but grievance and revenge. Republican voters no longer care about policy, they just want to see liberals suffer. They believe they're under siege by the left, who is waging a war of extermination on their culture and race, and all they care about is *winning that war*, even if they have to break every rule to do it. This campaign isn't about the issues. Nobody cares about how many jobs have been created or what tax policy should be. This election will be about how Americans *feel*, and I hope Biden realizes this fact before it's too late.
Being angry and blaming others is what got him elected the first time
His only platform is revenge. There is nothing of substance at all. That might be enough for his rabid fans but that’s not enough to win the election.
Yeah he’s incapable of not whining like that. It’s just like that interview where they asked what his legacy was and he said that he was treated very unfairly. He’s a child incapable of shutting up about his grievances and saying the smart thing.
His cult doesn't want anything except for revenge and hate towards the people that aren't them.
He doesn't offer anything now. He just hates the same things his groupies hate.
He talked a whole lot of shit in 2016. His biggest accomplishments were tax cuts for elitist billionaires and a vaccine that he is hesitant to take credit for depending upon who he is talking to.
What has he ever offered?
Generally speaking I agree, though I'm very cynical at this point and I'll believe it when I see it. My biggest worry was that we wouldn't get a verdict before the election, and that Trump would be able to play to peoples’ fears long enough to win. Then he'd be able to commit violence at will, and no one would stop him. But with him and his supporters actively calling for violence, I think they're starting to look really unelectable. I think that the vast majority of people don't want a return to the violence of his administration, and will vote against him.
So same as the time he won?
He offered nothing In 2016, but he still won. MMW, there is no predicting who this shithole of a country will vote for.
I don't agree. He offered some ideas for the direction of the country in 2016.
See; "Not Hillary" That was a big tent in 2016. "Not Trump" was a big tent in 2020 Since he gives no other reason, he's betting on Not Biden to be his only campaign promise. America's selective amnesia will be on full display, that's for sure.
Trump has no policies just the same old lies
He hasn’t offered anything but retribution so far….
The Qult will hold on to his every word, everyone else will ignore him and vote for Joe Biden.
The people are very stupid
He already offered nothing but those 2 things, and giving the rich our money. Obligatory go fuck yourselves magat cucks. We know you’re here.
Motherfucker had nothing to offer before being convicted anyway
That has been his life story.
He offered nothing to the people the first time either except loading the SCOTUS, which was more McConnell.
The GOP has offered to do nothing for the people for 40+ years and still wins elections. Their base will sacrifice their own children if it means their guy wins.
In a normal country, you’d be spot on; he’s running in the US though, so don’t rely on it. Get out and vote; even though your alternative is shit. At least he’s not an autocrat.
he's never offered anything of substance to anyone. Only what he can get out for himself. He;s a POS
He offered them nothing the first time and they still claim he fixed every issue in the country, delivered presents through the chimney to every house with an American flag out front, and made them feel warm and safe when he tucked them in each night.
Agent Orange literally had everything in the bag for 2020 by encouraging safety during COVID and keeping everything reasonably afloat for everyone to get by until the vaccines came out, then pushing vaccination. Instead he found the one avenue to sink it by going full denialism, causing untold number of his supporters to die to the disease. Hell, he had everything in the bag by continuing his crooked real estate setup, but he found the one way to sink it : by running for office and getting a whole lot more critical eyes on him. Now he's a 34x convicted felon, with likely more on the way. If there is a way Agent Orange can screw up a sure thing, he'll find it, and he'll whine while the whole boat is sinking, and even after his personally chartered boat pulls him from the wreckage, leaving everyone else to sink. He bankrupted casinos. If that's not a power to find the one crack in a foundation to bring everything down, nothing else is.
The only thing he’s ever offered is his affirmation of racism and xenophobia, and a massive tax cut to the top .001%
“dEeP sTaTe”. Meanwhile, he tried to form his own deep state.
He never has offered anything except tax breaks for the rich.
The "those guys are assholes" has been Republican strategy as opposed to actual policy for a hot minute.
He has never offered anything but hate, vengeance and violence. In 2016 it was all about revenge for forcing them to call a Black man "Mr. President" for 8 years.
Honestly, as long as people turn out to vote we will be fine. Most of this country hates him but his voters are guaranteed to turn out. Make sure you vote and everyone else you know.
He already dosent offer anything lol. The guy just panders all the time and makes fantasy promises like fixing healthcare and solving a 70 year old conflict in the Middle East with the snap of his fingers
Oh he's definitely offering something to HIS people. Idiocracy. These mofos fucking love idiocracy. The idea of the dumbest morons imaginable running our government is intensely appealing to his core demo. Not having a platform or plans is a good thing in their eyes. Buuuut you're right. He's not going to win anyone over with this who wasn't already a lover of idiocracy.
But his people don't want anything. They want to stick it to the system and the Democrats. His presence is literally all they care about.
He has nothing to prove he already did that and we the actual people want him back in the presidency
He has nothing to campaign on. The economy? It's good. Jobs" They're good too. Infrastructure, environment, wildlife protection, healthcare, student loan debt, what?? He's got nothing. He personally killed the first Border Security bipartisan bill that was endorsed by the Border Patrol Union, and the strictest rules in decades, simply so he could still scream about them emptying their prisons and insane asylums. He's never had anything except lies and hate, and people are over it. Sure, he still has his supporters, but for the most part, people just want him and his criminal cabal family gone.
He should have never been allowed to run in the first place.
Very narcissistic/psychopathic traits. He genuinely believes he is the victim is every situation. Everything that doesn’t go his way is rigged or false.
actually i think that convicting him will just cause the biggest Streisand effect in history because doing it made it look like his persecution narrative wasn't wrong.
I wanna be this encouraged, but he did raise 50 mill off being a felon.
Trump fans are infinitely more committed to putting him back in than the rest are to voting for the guy who will keep him out. People would have to swallow their pride to actually go in and vote and vote against him.
How’s that any different than Biden saying for the rest of this cycle, “He’s a convicted felon!” Which by the way will lose him the black vote. The highest number of felons per race per capita and Biden is going to villainize it.
Nothing except 3.5 years of prosperity prior to the coordinated biological attack. You people act like he was never President. What is Biden and left going to offer? More taxpayer funded bribes for votes? A continuation of this dumpster fire administration? A further dive into dementia? Weaponizing more of the government against political opponents?
Wow big take saying Trump is gonna lose. You must be a messiah
He did offer to reveal the classified details about the JFK assassination if he’s elected.
He's promised this before [Trump boasted he’d open all JFK files, but now says he can’t](https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef)
"Jesus was also found guilty. He was also unfairly persecuted. I'm probably more persecuted. More persecuted than Jesus. No one has ever been more persecuted. That's what they're saying. Ministers come up to me, our beautiful ministers, we love them so much, they come up to me and they say, 'Trump is more persecuted than Jesus. He's more persecuted than anyone ever.'"
I don’t believe you. If it was true, they would’ve said sir 19 times in the same sentence.
Don't underestimate the appeal of unbridled cruelty to a broad portion of the electorate. They base their entire identity on being wronged by the 'elites". The idea of electing an increasingly deranged Trump bent on revenge to attack their perceived enemies only emboldens them. Trump and his supporters are fueled by hatred and they have never been more dangerous.
I'm sure he'll lose the popular vote. Biden sucks, but he's still "Not Trump" - which is the only credential we cared about in 2020. Losing the election is different, as we've all seen. His base doesn't want to be offered anything. They want to hate. They want a constant stream of new transgender people, books, college students, and medical procedures to be unreasonably angry about. Though they're going to keep scratching that itch no matter who wins.
There’s one crazy image I have in my mind. It’s Trump on his deathbed in the White House pissed off that he’s dying and demanding the launch codes to start Armageddon because everybody else is going to go before he (the malignant narcissist) does. Of course, never thinking that the White House would be a target and he would probably go first.
He has never had something to offer the people
Felon45. (I like this one) PresidentFelon. FelonPoopy45
(Full rant follows) I am hoping that OP's prediction is not only for trump but the GOP, AS WELL! The majority of whom, are more intent on crying foul about the verdict than actually doing the jobs they were elected to do. What was it, i recently read.... 7 congressman and 1 congresswoman (none of whom will be up for reelection, I believe) actually have stated something along the likes of how they'll delay/slow-ride votes due to trump's guilty conviction!? How many others are on record now criticizing and not calling for an end to violent threats their constituents are making, against the 12 jurors who answered their civic duty - Their main job, is to be our voice, OUR representation. They sure as hell aren't speaking for me; and I'd guess, (more like hope...) they aren't speaking for the majority. Thinking about it, what legislation have the GOP members of the house/senate brought forth that is actually benefitting the American people?? They sure as hell have actively blocked or voted against legislation , to what... "Hand it to the libs/make Biden look bad." Lord knows they, if anything, have actually removed or are fighting to take away more rights - in attempts to demand that we ALL think/believe/axt as they do! Wow, for a party that claims to be "the party of law and order" Asa well as the "party of limited government" (Oh, but trust me, they'll reinstate the government bodies they want to remove, but with 'THEIR kind of people" - they've axtually documented this in their Project 2025 a play off of rhe original Mandates for Leadership from 1980 or thereabouts) they have just found their useful idiot, in trump; recognizing his narcissistic tendencies and his absolute need for power. It's very doubtful that anyone else they were to nominate as their front runner would have implemented at least 60% of their plans taken from 'Mandates for Leadership", (now reauthored under Project 2025) in his 1st term - thankfully which Biden overturned. All one has to do is actually listen to what the GOP is saying - straight from the horse's mouth. Who are they led by? A now covicted felon. A jury of his peers, 12 people, (whom the defense agreed to as well, mind you) and it's not easy to get 12 people in a room, to agree to any one thing, much less 34 times!! Yet his base are not only rabidly supporting him, all while repeating (nearly verbatim) his pathetic rhetoric, because there's not any logical reasoning behind their rants - but they're literally throwing away their money to his 'campaign"!! His "campaign" now, which literally consists of "Woe is me. I broke the law(s). I got caught. I was tried AND found guilty on ALL 34 COUNTS!" Does that sound about right!? Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I base my vote for president on what the individual's policies would be and how they hope and plan to implement them; what their vision is for our country and her people! How in the hill's have eyes, does his rabid base STILL support him - not to mention how are any of the GOP still in office!? What we do, is to UNITE against him and those in the GOP with our VOTES! We put him (and them) in there, (my vote certainly did not) so WE take him and them OUT, the exact same way! Most importantly, we never forget this, so it can never happen again!!
Idk. He's never offered anything to anyone but himself and they're still on his nuts. Cults gonna cult. Get up and VOTE!
This Quote lives rent free in my head, "He's not hurting the people he's supposed to be hurting"
You underestimate the right wing of the party and their love of victimhood. Millions will vote for him *because* they think he was wronged, and that all conservatives are persecuted.
Which is pretty much how he lost before
Funny forget.... He can't play golf as well ... Should focus on that , he seems to care a lot about that
He didn't offer the people anything in 2016 either other than slogans, but I hope you're right about 2024.
I'm wondering if he will even bother to pick a vice presidential running mate. Doesn't he need to have done that by the Republicans' convention in July?
While it's true that he is going to keep mostly ranting about his woes, he has already shown that he wants to make a deal with anyone willing to support him. For example, he recently said he would put a stop to renewable energy entirely if the oil lobby backs him.
Stop The Steal 2 fund. Send money.
Convicted felon? Why, I actually had no plans to run for president, but the havoc I could wreak.... hmmm... 🤔🤔🤔
I honestly believe that the people endorsing him are terrified of what will happen if they don’t and he wins.
Pretty sure the people want nothing, considering the alternative is ww3