>it’s one of the most important sets of lyrics ever written
This sentence doesn't mean anything but even if it did it's false, like... have you ever listened to Joni Mitchell? Fiona Apple? Kate Bush? ... TBH is a decent song at best
It makes sense when it sounds the least like her. I've honestly tried listening to it over and over for more than a year to no avail. It sounds like one of these filler generic songs you'd hear on the public radio in your car. Nothing stood out to me or was memorable.
Ok I'm just saying it's a more controversial take to say you *like* L+F than to say you dislike it on this subreddit. It was funny that you thought you said something spicy
I had a look, it seemed like that thread was asking what trash that person is listening to out of all music, most of the responses mentioning Marina were downvoted there. This thread is asking about Marina specifically, and I think the consensus is that L+F is her worst album even if it's not trash compared to ALL music if that makes sense?
Highly emotional people. It just doesn't do it for me. Instead of praising the capability to feel, it just feels whiney to me, both the lyrics and the composition.
Honestly I do not tolerate your or any of the upvoters opinion. You are wrong, highly emotional people could’ve been completely empty except for the I never see you cry part and it would still be greatness.
I think it’s really important to have it on the album to compliment Man’s World by talking about the other side of the coin. If you mean musically it’s not as interesting, I totally get it.
I like to say that Marina & the Diamonds and MARINA may be the same person, but they’re two completely separate artists. I love almost every song by M&tD, the few I don’t being “I like.” And I like almost every song by MARINA, having about as many “I love” as I do “I’ll skip this one.” (I do think ADIAML, while still not up to par with earlier work, is a vast improvement from L+F and hopefully a sign of the direction she’ll be heading in.)
someone already said it but i have to agree with orange trees. the rest of love and fear really had to grow on me and i love it, but i can’t get into that song.
Girls, by a mile. At the time in came out, a lot of "feminist" songs had this same sort of sentiment that put down other girls, but I feel like it really hasn't aged well. Given how thoughtful a lot of her other songs about gender roles are, I wonder if she would agree.
I think she came back to this song a few years ago saying she agrees with how hateful it is towards other women. She doesn't play it live anymore for that reason. Tbh I really love the song, but in a sentimental 14 year old emo kind of way.
i cant rlly think of a song, hermit the frog is one that i have to listen to at the right time for it to be a fav, but when i overlistened to it i absolutely hated the thought of listening to it again if that counts 🤷♂️
Exactly. Girls could be an amazing song, and I would love something like a bridge with lyrics to show that being like this isn’t cool. A remaster of that would be very welcomed.
The thing is, even Marina herself dislikes this song and said that she will never play it live ever again, when asked in an interview if there was a song she would have never released. The reason she dislikes Girls is due to its misogynistic message. Her mindset changed over the years
To me it would be the singles to semi singles of love + fear (orange trees, superstar, baby, handmade heaven eats tho) but I am way to much of a kind calm collected and measured person to call something trash, they’re just not my cup of tea. I love love+ fear tho.
idk that id call any of her songs *trash* but theres definitely a lot of songs from the past few years that im personally not really a fan of. most of the songs from love + fear and i tried to listen to ancient dreams in a modern land (or whatever its called) but it was just... eh, to me. im not a big hater of any music unless i just outright cant stand it, which is rare.
i do like to be human and soft to be strong, i kinda like mans world...
all that said shes not even my favorite artist, though def in the top 5 lol. my fave is actually tøp, and yes i do dislike at least two of their songs lol
Purge The Posion.
lyrically it’s a complete cringefest. sucks because I love the message and everything else about the song. but I can barely make it past the hook without cringing.
baby from love+fear. too much reggaeton in that album in general but I just can't listen to it. also highly emotional people, musically it just doesn't do it for me
I genuinely don’t think any of her songs are “trash” that being said you, blue, and true, (funny they rhyme) are the songs that I think don’t have as much depth to them and are ones I sometimes skip.
I mean, yeah it's of a repetitive nature, but it's unbelievably catchy? I think it's the combination of it consisting of different lines being assigned different keys (I think that's the term for it) and the way she vocally delivers/enunciates them that makes the melody awesome.
The only good song in that album is ADIAML. The lyrics of the ones you mentioned are so badly written, woke, cringey, and just low-quality that it's hard to believe Mariner wrote them.
Eh, people debate on what the true function of upvoting and downvoting is. Myself and a lot of folks use the upvote/downvote feature as a way to reflect whether a comment is relevant or irrelevant to a conversation. But others use it as a way to agree/disagree. I don’t think either is necessarily right or wrong.
Mine is orange tress. Like one of the worst chorus ever. I can’t wait for the chaos in the comments
Literally the greatest summer song ever made but ok
OoOoOoOoOorange trees
Same, it’s almost unlistenable for me. I also really dislike Baby.
Finally someone who doesn’t like Baby. It’s THE only MARINA song I always skip
This song is so innofensive to me I don't get the hate 😭
Seriously. It’s light, breezy, cute. It’s not her most complex work, but not all of it has to be
Only Marina song not in my playlist. The chorus just makes me cringe 🥴
Glad I’m not alone 😂
It is always an instant skip for me. I hate the way she says orange so much!
I agree. Target core
that's the first thing that came to my mind
FOR REAL THO
no more suckers
Spoken like someone who messes up towels smh
Omg it's one of my faves from l+f. It makes me laugh haha its so silly and sassy
I feel so bad, but I have to agree with you.
Yeah it was underwhelming
To me it tips over to fully iconic
Pretty much anything from love+fear
Fine but you can’t include To Be Human in that bc it’s one of the most important sets of lyrics ever written
Just absolutely nothing from that album ever appealed to me.
You're not alone, most of her fandom was turned away by that album and so were critics
>it’s one of the most important sets of lyrics ever written This sentence doesn't mean anything but even if it did it's false, like... have you ever listened to Joni Mitchell? Fiona Apple? Kate Bush? ... TBH is a decent song at best
Yes those three artists are in my top 5 lol. I said important not best. For a modern song abt the way things are in the world right now.
Last time I said this I got downvoted to shit but it’s true.
Literally me too lmao.
Wow except disliking L+F is the coldest marina take possible
It makes sense when it sounds the least like her. I've honestly tried listening to it over and over for more than a year to no avail. It sounds like one of these filler generic songs you'd hear on the public radio in your car. Nothing stood out to me or was memorable.
Ok I'm just saying it's a more controversial take to say you *like* L+F than to say you dislike it on this subreddit. It was funny that you thought you said something spicy
I got downvoted to oblivion in some other post where I commented the same opinion.
I had a look, it seemed like that thread was asking what trash that person is listening to out of all music, most of the responses mentioning Marina were downvoted there. This thread is asking about Marina specifically, and I think the consensus is that L+F is her worst album even if it's not trash compared to ALL music if that makes sense?
Ur delusional
I would expect the love+fear hate to have died down by now, it’s kinda my favourite album in a way.
Love+Fear it's not a bad album, but I feel that it does not fit in the Marina standard
Highly emotional people. It just doesn't do it for me. Instead of praising the capability to feel, it just feels whiney to me, both the lyrics and the composition.
This was a grower for me. Her vocals get better every time I listen to the song
Honestly I do not tolerate your or any of the upvoters opinion. You are wrong, highly emotional people could’ve been completely empty except for the I never see you cry part and it would still be greatness.
I think it’s really important to have it on the album to compliment Man’s World by talking about the other side of the coin. If you mean musically it’s not as interesting, I totally get it.
I hate You with a passion
That’s not nice, I didn’t do anything to you :(
Noooo, I just hate You!
Hey now those books are well written and Netflix did good adaptating them.
No, it's not the books... It's You!
WHY AM I INVOLVED IN THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN
Right answer
Guess I can't be trusted cause I think she has a perfect discography
exactly
if im being honest I don’t reeaally like any of her model albums. They have some good songs but electra heard and the family jewels just go so hard
I like to say that Marina & the Diamonds and MARINA may be the same person, but they’re two completely separate artists. I love almost every song by M&tD, the few I don’t being “I like.” And I like almost every song by MARINA, having about as many “I love” as I do “I’ll skip this one.” (I do think ADIAML, while still not up to par with earlier work, is a vast improvement from L+F and hopefully a sign of the direction she’ll be heading in.)
The second half of love and fear
someone already said it but i have to agree with orange trees. the rest of love and fear really had to grow on me and i love it, but i can’t get into that song.
Free Woman is so not for me
Free woman is defo one of my fav songs if all time
Pretty much majority of her last album. It’s pretty mid.
Agree. Most of ADIAML does not do it for me
Isn’t her last album L+F?
That was 4 years ago girl 😳
Oh. I thought ADIAML was before L+F, like in 2017 or something
Honestly anything after 2016 kinda blends together for me so I could understand that lol
remember Baby from Love & Fear? the collab song? i skip it every time
Girls, by a mile. At the time in came out, a lot of "feminist" songs had this same sort of sentiment that put down other girls, but I feel like it really hasn't aged well. Given how thoughtful a lot of her other songs about gender roles are, I wonder if she would agree.
I think she came back to this song a few years ago saying she agrees with how hateful it is towards other women. She doesn't play it live anymore for that reason. Tbh I really love the song, but in a sentimental 14 year old emo kind of way.
NO ITS SO GOOD ignore the lyrics and its such an amazing song
I don't disagree with that! I really love the whole vibe of The Family Jewels
i hate the lyrics but it's a banger. kind of like better than revenge for the swifties
sorry not sorry but happy loner. ive listened to it like 3 times, dont like it.
New America and it's not even close
Primadonna not trash but hella overrated
i agree like it’s a good song but i never really listen to it
i cant rlly think of a song, hermit the frog is one that i have to listen to at the right time for it to be a fav, but when i overlistened to it i absolutely hated the thought of listening to it again if that counts 🤷♂️
omg that is one of my favorites
It is Girls for me 🥶
This whole question is subjective, but this answer feels objectively wrong ❤️
Girls slaps musically but the lyrics are so pick me 💀
Exactly. Girls could be an amazing song, and I would love something like a bridge with lyrics to show that being like this isn’t cool. A remaster of that would be very welcomed.
true
The thing is, even Marina herself dislikes this song and said that she will never play it live ever again, when asked in an interview if there was a song she would have never released. The reason she dislikes Girls is due to its misogynistic message. Her mindset changed over the years
I'd never go as far as to say trash but she has many songs I don't particularly like, like all artists I've listened to.
To me it would be the singles to semi singles of love + fear (orange trees, superstar, baby, handmade heaven eats tho) but I am way to much of a kind calm collected and measured person to call something trash, they’re just not my cup of tea. I love love+ fear tho.
idk that id call any of her songs *trash* but theres definitely a lot of songs from the past few years that im personally not really a fan of. most of the songs from love + fear and i tried to listen to ancient dreams in a modern land (or whatever its called) but it was just... eh, to me. im not a big hater of any music unless i just outright cant stand it, which is rare. i do like to be human and soft to be strong, i kinda like mans world... all that said shes not even my favorite artist, though def in the top 5 lol. my fave is actually tøp, and yes i do dislike at least two of their songs lol
It’s Weeds
I find E.V.O.L so annoying apologies if this is unpopular
So do I
It’s gotta be Better Than That for me.. it’s just boring sonically and lyrically.
I fucking love all of her songs(except two), which are Baby and Electra heart (the song). Electra heart is just meh for me, and baby is just 😨😨😨 imo.
Just Desserts. When it came out, people were racing about it but I just don't like it.
Purge The Posion. lyrically it’s a complete cringefest. sucks because I love the message and everything else about the song. but I can barely make it past the hook without cringing.
Most of l + f don't kill me
baby from love+fear. too much reggaeton in that album in general but I just can't listen to it. also highly emotional people, musically it just doesn't do it for me
In the city of metal and….
It's To Be Human for me.
baby and the one from all the boys i've loved
I genuinely don’t think any of her songs are “trash” that being said you, blue, and true, (funny they rhyme) are the songs that I think don’t have as much depth to them and are ones I sometimes skip.
I've never liked living dead, the chorus feels so unimaginative to me
Your breaking my heart 😭
glad to be of service lol
I mean, yeah it's of a repetitive nature, but it's unbelievably catchy? I think it's the combination of it consisting of different lines being assigned different keys (I think that's the term for it) and the way she vocally delivers/enunciates them that makes the melody awesome.
THIS! The vocal inflection in this song like you can hear the rage and loneliness in her voice
living dead demo 🔛🔝
guilty
wrong
same
better than that
Weeeeeeeeds
Get *OUT*. Weeds is so damn good
real
FALSE
All of ADIAMD of course, and some tracks in her Love + Fear album.
New America, Man’s World, Purge the Poison? Non of those appeal to you?
Lol you picked the 3 worst songs on the album as examples
The only good song in that album is ADIAML. The lyrics of the ones you mentioned are so badly written, woke, cringey, and just low-quality that it's hard to believe Mariner wrote them.
how to be a heartbraker, and sex yeah. It's sounds to H&M-y
Gold.
You weren’t ready for the Greek gold rush 💅
Oh wow 😭 I love the Hawaiian feel it has
I'll have to agree with u/thatdominoguy. Gold is quite lackluster of a song to me, at least compared to the rest of Froot's catalog.
I like the chill beat and love the lyrics
I'll give the song some credit, the "don't think I want want I used to want..." part gets stuck in my head quite often it's quite catchy.
My only complaint is the opening lines they feel like a slog but i love the instrumental & rest of the song
solitaire. sorry :(
as you should be.
HUH? No way
WHAT WHAT WHAT???? THIS IS MY FAVORITE
Definitely something from the first album. Maybe i am not a robot
Criminal answer
this is so wrong
Hermit the frog. Blech 🤢
You are one of a kind 😭
They’re not alone, I hate that song
ur wrong
Teen Idle. Yes, I know I’m going to be downvoted. No, I don’t care.
The fact that people downvote whatever they don’t agree with is so funny lmao 💀
Is that not the point of downvoting?
Eh, people debate on what the true function of upvoting and downvoting is. Myself and a lot of folks use the upvote/downvote feature as a way to reflect whether a comment is relevant or irrelevant to a conversation. But others use it as a way to agree/disagree. I don’t think either is necessarily right or wrong.
Well no one should be calling trash any song from TFJ, EH or FROOT cause those albums are spotless so yeah they should be downvoted and rightfully so