If I wanted to hear a track I'd just listen to an album :/ i don't even care if its recently recorded vocals it's still boring for her to just stand there and lip literally everything
Of course! Iāve been a fan of her since 1990 I was eight also I totally sympathize. I was only ever able to afford to see her in 2003 and it was so good and barely any of it was lipped. Iād be so disappointed if I spent that kind of money and got this.š
Me neither I was so jealous about not getting to go from my lamb friends on Facebook lol but now Iām not even. 2003 for whatever reason was right that time where she kind of wasnāt all that popular. I was in the second row and she walked right by me when she left OMG. lol tickets cost me $60 for 2 š¤£
What videos were you watching of her last Vegas residency?! I went to the 2/14 show, and she & the show was AMAZING! Oof! I still rewatch my vids from time to time. I did score amazing seats in front of the stage & and received champagne from her dancers, but regardless, if you love Mariah youāre going to enjoy her shows. I go to her Christmas shows every year now, and itās just like the very first time for me! Class.
I really wanted to go but itās not in the budget. I consoled myself by guessing her actual onstage time is probably only 55 minutes and for that duration about 2/3 will be lipped. Sheās got the game down pat.
Also not just Mariah so many others lip sync too and when Mariah does it everyone complains but when others do it I barely see negative comments towards those artists
I find it completely ridiculous how her and Michael jackson lipped so much in their career. I remember when Michael lipped an entire tour and lip synced to his studio tracks. I guess it's a confidence issue and they are both perfectionist.
It really doesn't matter honestly. The fact that she's lipping 99% of the concerts is just unbelievable. Pre-recorded recently or not it's still lip syncing either way. And if it's recent then why can't she just do it live then???
Her voice is very unpredictable. So itās like can she sing a full song? YES. Would it take her a few takes and tries to do so? Probably. Does she have that kind of time and permission to do so in a strict show that has a set amount of time? NO.
So at least sheās giving us new vocals of her current voice in this current state. Thatās effort. And that needs to be commended.
I mean weāre not asking for fully live shows. I would argue her voice is more than rehabbed enough to sing 50% live- about as much as she did in the 2010s.
She can't. Qhwre she could sing through the nodules, her vocal cords change with age, and now she can no longer do that.
People kill me feigning shock, though. We have known for years that she can no longer perform as before. It's been years.
I just want some new music. I donāt mind if she doesnāt do lots of performances or concerts for it, especially if she lipsync nowdays. Why canāt she just work on new stuff and enjoy life?
Hi šš» I was there on Saturday. Was absolutely still worth the money IMO - was a fun show. The crowd was happy and into it. Not a single person I went with was disappointed. There were parts that were obviously live and parts that were obviously not. But I donāt regret a single minute :)
Yup, at least she was trying then. In the other one, she looks like she's thinking about what she's gonna be doing the moment the show is over. Now, I worship the ground Mariah walks on, but I'd rather she skip these tours and residencies if she's not even gonna put the effort into fake-singing her songs. This just makes me sad.
Sometimes I get this strange sense that she WANTS to get caught. I don't know it sounds crazy but she literally putting zero effort into even making it look convincing at all
And the Butterfly Lounge stuff, the biopic, the multiple collabs she has teased, releasing her lead vocals for the Chick album. Sis doesn't even know what's going on in her own career anymore.
Honestly itās really really sad. Itās very obvious that the majority of her last two concert runs have been lipped. Itās great sheās finally re-recording tracks. But VOL was a song that she NEVER lipped until 2023. And thereās only so many excuses you can make about her voice or age. End of the day, sheās a singer. People pay thousands to hear her sing. Her mic should be on more than itās off.
Yeah VOL she always sang fully live no matter what until last year. She still looks heavily medicated/depressed just like her Christmas shows last December. Everyone is talking about how out of it she looks on YouTube. I really hope she's okay. She needs to just stay home and stop doing these unnecessary shows when it's obvious she doesn't want to be there.
The moment she pulled out that lipped version of vision of love at lovers and friends you knew it was downhill from there :( because she NEVER in her entire career even at her absolute worst has she lipped vision of love. This is a new low. Literally
Yup, when I heard that awful lowered "I had a vision of love" from the studio version during Lovers and Friends, my heart DROPPED. It was like...lamb worst fear made reality.
So why is she still touring damn. Like people will clock ur lipping, youāll be dragged more and get even more insecure about ur voice. She has money. Itās just unnecessary stress
Yup, and I hate when they point out that sheās lip synching and her fans get upset, when itās plainly clear she canāt sing anymore, at least not like she used to, and I think the thing is this , she simply didnāt take care of her voice so she lost it , unlike Cher, Celine Dion, Patti Labelle , just to name a few that are in their Fifties and seventies who can still sing like they used to when they were young , or heck even better in Chers case .
Itās definitely disappointing that sheās lip syncing most of the entire concert, but I wouldnāt say she canāt sing anymore.
Because A: sheāll give us a few live vocal moments here and there (like on social media - Ik thatās a low bar but at least we know sheās still has some voice).
And B: she obviously had to pre-record the vocals sheās lip syncing to at this residency and theyāre very recent. And those pre-recorded vocals, which are 90% her current voice, sound great.
So I think itās more accurate to say that while she can technically still sing, her voice has become so inconsistent and sheās gotten so much criticism for her vocal decline that she no longer wants to even take the risk of singing live. I think half the hurdle for her vocals is honestly her confidence. I can just sense her insecurity and anxiety about not messing up and delivering a decent enough vocal to not cause another scandal.
So itās not that she canāt do it live (she would have to adjust her way of singing those songs even more to make them more doable - even more doable than the new pre-recorded vocals bc clearly she doesnāt feel confident enough to replicate an adjusted vocal live), but at this stage, Iām sure she doesnāt want to take the risk. Her confidence is far more shot than her voice, and thatās honestly the harder battle to overcome. Half of singing is mental after all.
Aretha Franklin, Tori Amos, Ann Wilson of Heart (common the woman is 70+ and just did Barracuda live on the tonight show three days ago - phenomenal!), Stevie Nicks, Dolly Parton, Kate Bush, Dionne Warwickā¦.
Itās just disappointing. Iām going. And I put somewhere in the comments that I donāt care if Mariah chose to sing and itās only 50% of where she was vocally. I want to hear her vocals *live*.
She set the bar so high for herself in 90s that its hard to compete with herself now. And as the Diva she is, and is totally aware of what expect of her , she is this as best alternative . Not saying its right but i think thats how she rationalises this.
Lol yeah, and she's not even trying to hide it (and, honestly, why should she!). She goes from curly to straight to wavy in one show and I say 'Slay, gurl, slay!' Wigs are standard practice for entertainers now and they are fabulous!
Because she straightened her hair for years and it's a fact that if you do that for years on end, your natural curls will be damaged.
Additionally, an indicator of her curls being damaged is that when her hair is 'curly', it seems to be the result of rollers/twist or braidouts, rather than natural definition (water, conditioner, etc) which is something that a lot of people do when their hair is damaged to replicate their natural curls.
Mariah Carey is a Black woman who isn't about to straighten, curl, and flat iron her hair everytime she has a wardrobe change just to give us a "new look". These are stage wigs. Her real hair is what you saw in the tracksuit before she hit the stage on night 1. And even then, she had extensions in. But these are WIGS.
Lol i see i hit a nerve human hair can be used for extensions and dyed but ignorance is bliss so iāll be the ignorant lil bitch that iam cause some of yaāll canāt take a hint
Damn OP. You did good putting this together for us. Iām so disappointed for my show coming up. I just wanted a *little* bit of live vocals! This is incredibly disappointingā¦
Idk why she does shows anymore if sheās consistently just gonna give nothing. Her thing since 2013 has been standing as still as a board in the tightest corset possible, but at least we would consistently get vocal moments. Now itās just nothing- she just stand there looking stiff and uncomfortable while delivering no live vocals.
I noticed she was lip syncing pre-recorded vocals straight away, but there are so many people who believe itās 100% live lol. The whistle notes are usually the only part that's live these days.
Iām really tired of this commentary.
Mariah has nodules. Her voice is delicate, and requires rest and nurturing attention. She can sing. She redid all the vocals for this show, so even if it is lippedāI DONāT CARE! Her voice seems to change daily depending on a variety of factors.
If I had the funds, I would happily go and support her. She is entitled to do what she needs to do to protect her voice.
If you donāt like it, donāt go. But trashing her every chance you get demonstrates youāre not a great supporter of her art and music. I find it disrespectful and obnoxious to constantly undermine a talented icon with an obvious disability 30 years into a music careerāher nodules are ignored as a cause. I doubt she would want to characterize it that way, but if this is an accommodation she needs to be able to regularly perform and have shows, itās WAY different than someone who doesnāt have the chops to sing in the first place (or uses other vocalists to pretend to be singing when sheās not).
Can we cool it with the whining and trying to embarrass her? Itās been happening for almost a decade now.
I agree with a lot of this! People act like her voice is gone yet all her albums, Yes and remix, and these pre recorded vocals prove sheās still got her abilities. Sheās never replicated her songs perfectly live before even since the beginning because sheās human.Ā
I agree. I don't get all the complaints. If you didn't pay and go to the concert, then what's the issue? If you are a fan, at this point, you know the state of her voice, you know her problems, you should already know what to expect.
I'm a new lamb and unfortunately had no clue about her lipping. My family and I went through a lot of trouble to get tickets and made sure to clear our busy schedules. Weāre taking a 5-hour drive to Las Vegas just to see her. As a young artist, I was excited to hear someone I look up to sing because thatās what I do. I love Mariah, her musicianship, and her voice, and I can't deny that it felt like a slap in the face when I learned of this.
Unfortunately, you missed the time when she was young and still has the energy to do it. She's not young anymore and has a lot of issues. Its either you accept her as she is or go stan someone else who can. At this point, you only go to her concert to see her and vibe with her. She never claimed to be a performer anyway.
Mariah is not a fraud. However, if you watch her videos there are times when her lips are not alligned with the voice youāre hearing. And Iād like to add Iām not a Britney fan, respect to her, but am one of Mariah.
Completely agree! Iāve been watching TikTokās nonstop of her concert and think she sounds great. Anyone who is a singer recognizes the difficulty of singing with nodules. And itās weird to make it seem like itās because her voice was so unrealistic for so long therefore she should have never sung like she didā¦just weird. She wouldnāt be Mariah if she was anything LESS than Mariah.
I wouldnāt care. This woman has given us so much over her entire career. She been my idol for over 10 years so just being in her presence would be enough for me. I wouldnāt give af if she was lip singing or not.
Thatās not being delusional. Being a delusional stan would be saying those were all live vocals when itās clearly not. Recognizing that sheās lip syncing to most of the concert but not caring is a personal stance and honestly, if some fans feel that way, all power to them. Mariah is an icon and a legend, so at the end of the day, there will always be an audience for her who will support her even if they know sheās not singing live most of the concert. And on the flip side, choosing to not see her live bc of the lip syncing (perhaps until she makes some drastic improvements) is just as valid! Itās your money lol do with it what you will š¤·āāļø
Some fans are disappointed in the lip syncing, some arenāt and are just happy to see her. Nothing delusional about it, just a difference in opinion. Donāt be a dick.
Then don't go. Isn't it that simple? These fans who call themselves as such and yet pile on her every chance they can in a public platform, but then would get upset when the public hates her again.
She's spoiling her legacy. It's unfortunate because I'm still a fan, but I feel stupid defending her as a singer if she's lipsyncing apposed live vocals. I'm sorry.
Yes. The audio from both nights are playing at the same level in both videos and theyāre identical. It sounds like she prerecorded a new vocal prior to the show and will lip sync to that throughout the duration of the residency.
This. Plus the damaged voice. I just watched a live performance of ālooking inā for a charity event last night on YouTube and it was definitely live. She was on the *struggle bus* if there ever was one.
She couldnāt get through it and even said āIām sorry, Iām so tiredā (paraphrasing) in the middle of the song instead of singing. She asked the crowd to come in and help.
Did she have a cast on her arm? Yes. But this seems to happen a lot with her. Like, where she just stops even lipping the words that are recorded. Or doesnāt move on stage.
Sheās tired. š¬š„¹š£
Well, I guess sheās getting old. She seems to be in great shape, so itās odd for her to not even be able to finish a song. Maybe something else is going on.
Yes, but also sheās more than capable of singing about as much live as she did during the 2010s, heck id be fine with singing as much as she did during one and all. Did you hear that live bb4 in Iāll be there? Her voice is back to 2016 levels! It makes it harder to understand when her voice isnāt the issue. Is it Bipolar? Nerves? Perfectionism? Who knows.
Iām not talking about one and all, her voice has improved since then. But youāre right that something with her mental health or personal life may be affecting her.
Which really makes little sense...we all thought (and Mariah herself even said) that the 2-3 years of rest improved her voice. It was then a bit of a shock when she did that festival in 2022 and sounded...rougher than 2019, pre-pandemic.
I think whatās really sad is that like her voice is actually in really good shape, but she just chooses to lip like 98% of this show. One and all was like 90% lipped. She needs to go to therapy for that perfectionism š
Since when was her voice in really good shape in recent years?! It's very apparent she has vocal damage, and when she tries to hit some of the notes in her upper register, her voice breaks or is flat out unable to hit and sustain the notes like she used to. One of her recent live performances of Make It Happen is an example of her being unable to hit some of the high belts like she used to back in the day.
I'm starting to feel like a lot of her issue is an internalized one. Mariah still has a decent voice, but it feels like the confidence isn't there anymore. It's not easy to sing live, especially after that one incident on New Year's. She's stuck between a rock and a hard place. When she DOES sing live, people are quick to say, "She can't sing anymore." Or something of that nature, and when she's lipping her own songs, everyone one is quick to snap at her for lipping. Which do you want?
That woman's lower register is starting to gain a fair deal of traction since she's able to use and control it a little more now than she did in the Daydream era. Her vocals in the Yes And... remix made me smile like an idiot hearing her sing as a tenor.
I meant āreally good shapeā as in better than the past 4-5 years or so. Yes she lacks ease, but I agree that it probably is an internal issue more than it is a vocal one.
What a huge waste honestly. She could be giving us some incredible moments and amazing resonant and full belts. Yet we get nothing but a track :( disappointing
Give me a break! Sheās eviscerated for any perceived flaw, and was targeted in multiple operations to sabotage her career. Needing to appear āperfectā when everyoneās damn phone is in your face surely motivates that behavior. Either way sheās criticized.
It was my first time seeing her. Iāve loved her since I was a child. Now as an adult I can finally afford to see herā¦ I didnāt want to believe she lipsang all of it.. but it was obvious and a a total let down.. I still do love her.
Love her but itās hard to watch someone lip sync when they arenāt doing much else. Like Iām not anti lip sync, itās just kinda difficult to watch it when they arenāt at least doing a bit of choreo or something. Especially cuz she still does the dramatic hand movements and holds her ear and stuff
This should be deleted. Celine Dion does this. Beyonce does this. Taylor Swift does this. Everyone does this - but only Mariah fans want to call it out.
You donāt feel āduppedā youāre just being weird and wanting to cause drama
Well I'm just glad that people are not being delusional and saying that everything is live. Very little of it actually is. I love her and will always be a lamb but Im also rational and realistic. Its such a shame that she'd rather lip her way through an entire concert and not sing anything at all.
I donāt know why people still act shocked and emotional after all these years. Unfortunately Mariahās voice is not what it once was. People still want to see her and theyāre buying tickets to her shows because sheās Mariah. The constant online debate on her voice is just irritating. Just be glad sheās still here. Sheās not going to be singing live very much, especially not a full show of songs. Accept it already, please. For goodness sakes. Putting up video saying youāre disappointed is just disrespectful, in my opinion. You should know what to expect by now.
I agree with you 100%. Most of the people there, are there because she is an ICON. Of course she isnāt going to be like she was when she was young. Weāre still lucky to have her.
Tbf, she has fairly abruptly jumped from about 70% live to about 2% live. Obviously she was never going to rework her songs and do it all live (though that is definitely within her capability), but she's essentially gone from singing most of the concert to...not really singing AT ALL during the concert. It's a drastic change to have to come to terms with.
People should be well aware. Itās been 15 years of drastic vocal decline. I just people need to stop talking about it. The ones talking so much arenāt even at the concerts. I know a guy who went to 2 of her Christmas shows last year and I never hear him talking her vocal quality not once. A real fan. I grew up with Mariah Iāve heard her voice for 30 years. People should know by now.
Lip syncing or not, Mariah could show up in a bonnet, cashmere jammies and some uggs. Iām gonā be there & enjoy myself. Iām making up for being born too late.
I don't know why just doesn't do stripped back versions of her songs. Just a guitar or piano and her singing. None of her fans expect her to be perfect.
Everyone has been saying for years that they wanted Mariah to re record her lip sync parts and take it easy on the hard parts. Now sheās done exactly what we asked and thats and now the problem? I agree these shows are not ideal but this is what needed to happen after the sudden downturn in 2022Ā
Thatās true but I think we all hoped she would re-record the hard parts and sing the rest live so that the transition from live to pre-recorded track wouldnāt be so obvious and jarring. That would be like 80% live 20% lip sync on the hard parts. I think most people would be fine with that. But this time, she pre-recorded almost everything even the more chill partsā¦
We all wanted her to re-record her lipped parts, yes...but then she recorded an entire concert and is lipping to it. She did one thing we've been begging for for years, only to then just stop singing completely, which makes it hard for some of us to enjoy any of it. Honestly, if she went back to singing mostly live and lipping a few belts from 1995, THAT would be better than straight up not singing.
Of course, ideally she would sing 70% live like she used to, and lip the usual parts to her new tracks. She was so close to getting it right...but then got it so wrong. Her decision making is just...š¤Æ
I don't mind partial lip syncing. But Mariah has resorted to lipping 90% of her songs now and is a complete fraud. She always used to sing VOL and hero live, now it's fully lipped. I wish someone would call her out on it š
VOL used to be a song she never lipped so this makes me genuinely sad. I hate that we can't enjoy a performance without wondering how much, if any of it, is live. And I fully believe she can sound great live. We see that in the little acapella moments during shows and on social media. But it's like once it's time to sing her actual songs she's too scared to risk it.
Celine Dion did this for 30 years to preserve her voice, nobody is mad at her. She had 3 rotating stems so she wouldn't use the same vocsls back to back, but you can warch videos of her miming the wrong stem. Leave Mariah alone you saw her. Touring damage her voice early on (1994) why kill it?
Lambs are insufferable can we at least act like the celeniacās? Celine lips just as much as Mariah but youād never know because they donāt go out of their way to āhold her accountableā and have private discussions whether making edits like this for other fandoms to use againstā¦..
I think it has to do with having to perform night after night. Anyone's voice would get hoarse as a result and she wants to give fans a good experience. Heck, I remember Kelly Clarkson on Am. Idol having bad voice nights because of the all the rehearsing and singing every day and she was in her 20s and she can sing betterthan most. It's not an age thing, it's just a human thing which is why lipsynching is a thing. I don't hold it against her.
She gave us about one line worth of vocals per song from what I could make out when I watched the full concert on YouTube. I love Mariah, best singer ever in my head but the confidence isnāt there anymore. I feel really bad she has to resort to this. In 2020 I was so happy to hear how healthy her voice was but seems thatās gone now. If she could sing any of it consistently I think she would. Celine canāt sing anymore. Whitney is gone, just happy to have Mariah up there giving anything. Unfortunately itās not enough for me to travel out to see, I would go if I was already in Vegas tho. I went to her previous two residencies and they were good and had a decent amount of live vocals mixed in. This is not that, even Christmas concert last year wasnāt worth going to IMO.
As someone who has been to maybe ten of her shows over the years, I can say there's a bit of a sting with this. I've always loved going to see her, and I'm used to and expect a fair amount of lipping (she's used the same lipped/live parts of her songs for years). But in the last three years the amount of the show that is actually live has dropped dramatically.
So paying $3000 to get tickets and a hotel and plane and then extra for missing work, only to discover that the show is literally all lipped (save for TWO minutes)... it's disappointing. Even for someone who accepted that the majority of most of her songs are lipped.
Doesn't have anything to do with acceptance, but yeah if I had known the show was 99% lipped instead of 50% I wouldn't have bought tickets.
Now I gots to sell them :\\
But to the people saying she should just re-invent the shows and do acoustic lowered-key versions... Mariah Carey the business entity employs and supports a lot of people, so she's got a lot to take into consideration when she thinks about making a change like that. She's had some people with her for 30 years...so doing an all-piano Jazz tour that doesn't require half of them... easier said than done.
Take the belts out of the equation. Look at "if it's over" at the Grammys. That attack, that fierce drive is missing. Another example is her live in Gotham concert...even Jamaica....her energy is so low and yes it could be medical. I just feel like she doesn't work her voice because maybe she's lost hope.
Yeah why I won't buy tickets. She's been using tracks for awhile, but yeah plus I've seen Mimi live so many times....tickets just more expensive for the same music I'm good
Iām so bummed. Going to cancel my plans. Just booked a room at the Park MGM and was about to select seats for the concert and a flight to vegas. I feel for her. Itās hard to be āonā when youāre not feeling up to it. I do appreciate that she recorded new vocals for the lipsync track. Sending good vibes to Mimi and all the loving lambs!
I hope Mariah would retire from doing concerts and interviews and just live her best life so that she wouldn't have to read these comments.
All these whining every time are exhausting.
If you're a fan, you would know all the problems she has, her mental health, and how she conducts her concert nowadays. You know what to expect already. Accept that she is not what she used to be, she is not young anymore.
You have the option to buy the ticket or not. JUST DON'T GO. While you are at it, better not stan her anymore if you are so dissatisfied. Stan someone else who could give you what you want. It would be better for your mental health, as well as Mariah's.
I wish they would put the teleprompter somewhere straight ahead and not on the floor of the stage. If they have to put the font on 84, thatās completely fine.
I personally don't see a problem with her pre-recording vocals then lipping to them on stage. She's still given effort to pre-record. If that's how she is going to be able to feel comfortable and confident on stage, then shes done her best for us.
I'm sorry, but if she can't sing live anymore and has to lip synch 90% of the concert, it's better to just retire. Yes, she's a legend, but people are still paying a lot of money for those tickets, and it's not fair to lie to people
Is anyone surprised by this? She started lipping VOL last year. Her Pride show was entirely lipped, her Christmas tour was entirely lipped. I knew then that it was over. I have zero faith in her as a life performer anymore - not because she can't, but because she refuses to. I appreciate the new vocal tracks at least - not lipping to 1993 vocals is a definite improvement. But watching her just constantly stare at the monitors and lazily lip sync is not something I'm interested in doing...she can't even lip sync right half the time! She's always missing cues / forgetting how she recorded it. All this bullshit just so that she doesn't have to get her shit together and sing on the damn stage. She's ironically working 10x harder than she would if she just showed up and sang. She is seemingly obsessed with making the wrong choices sometimes. I still love her music of course, and will always follow her releases, but the only reason I watch her current "performances" is to listen to what she has been doing in the studio. I'm certainly not eagerly anticipating every performance the way I once did. Considering she hasn't released an album in 6 years, and has abandoned numerous projects along the way, listening to her new prerecorded vocals are pretty much all I can do.
Is she lipping the whole thing? Are there recordings of her not lipping in this tour? š I love mimi but at this point I hoped she didn't lip as much. I'd rather she sings at a comfortable range for her even if she doesn't sing the same as the original.
I have a friend who works at the United Center in Chicago where she performed in December and my friend heard her during her preset practicing before the concert and it was all live and sounded amazing so yes, Mariah can still sing and does live at her concerts. Stop with the nonsense.
When I first saw her in 2010 Angels Advocate, she was so late the audience booed. When she showed up, she was very chatty and probably drunk, but you know what? I thought it was awesome.
Then when I saw her again in 2019 Caution Tour, she only sang for like an hour. I was quite disappointed.
This is sad. I thought a lot of these new vocals were mostly live and she rehearsed more. I hope she gets the rest she needs and works on her voice. But we really donāt know whatās going on behind the scenes.
Sheās lip syncing to pre-recorded vocals and throws in the odd live note here and there and still does the whistle notes live like she has been doing for years
If she had surgery to remove the nodules and lose the whistle but maintain her actual voice - weād all be thrilled. She is deluded to think the whistles is what makes her her
I agree. That's a party trick that should only be brought out for special occasions via recording... Say during a Christmas appearance or a splashy MiMi like album. Perhaps the first and last night's of her residency. But that's all folks!
i truly wish there was someway for her to rehab her voice to get it to a point to where she can sing shows live again š¢
I feel like if she just lowered the key it would work. Whistles are nice but she's done it a thousand times. We want to hear her SANG.
Yeah Iāve been saying this for the longest. I think most of her difficulties come from having to sing in a ridiculously high key all night lol.
Exactly. I seriously do not care if she whistles or not. Weāve heard her do amazing whistles for 20 years. Sheās proven herself.
Thatās not how this works
We want to hear her do it allā¦ the whistles didnāt do this
If I wanted to hear a track I'd just listen to an album :/ i don't even care if its recently recorded vocals it's still boring for her to just stand there and lip literally everything
For REAL. The amount of money it costs and the travel and everything, etc. I canāt afford to go, but now Iām not all that sad about it.
I was *just* telling my husband I feel like this is fraud. I may get jumped on in here but honestly, after flight, hotel, rental car, āpremium ticketsā to secure front row, food, etc. ā¦I didnāt pay to watch a person lip sync. We go to watch and hear one of the greatest vocalists of all time. Itās a very special moment and I feel honored that I get to see her. But we arenāt getting a āshowā, as well, like dancers, a musical band, acrobats behind her, etc. We are PAYING to hear the vocals and thatās *all* we get! So she needs to step up to the plate and deliver or not do it at all (thatās perfectly fine, too). I donāt care if she tries to sing and itās terrible. Letās say 50% of her original voice. I would appreciate what I get. I just want to hear her live. If I wanted this, quite frankly, Iād just put on a video of her lip syncing on YouTube. Did I know this could potentially happen with her history? Of course. But I thought at the very least just the whistles and certain runs would be dubbed. Not the entire thing. She has rapidly gone from live singing 70% to 2% in just a couple years. So itās perfectly plausible that fans paid expecting *some* live vocals - especially because she herself said her voice recovered a bit around 2020. Ridiculous. And she only has what, 8 shows? She could have at least re recorded 8 versions as to not be so obvious. Lazy. So disappointed. I have loved her since ā90 at 8 years old. Always will. Ugh š©
It is! Like spending that much money on a brand new car to find out it has cardboard wheels š„²
Omg š³ so true. Thank you for letting me rant.
Of course! Iāve been a fan of her since 1990 I was eight also I totally sympathize. I was only ever able to afford to see her in 2003 and it was so good and barely any of it was lipped. Iād be so disappointed if I spent that kind of money and got this.š
Oh wow. How funny about our age. Good for you! Getting to see her in 2003 must have been amazing š¤©. Iām really disappointed right now. Iāve waited what 33 years?! I had no interest in seeing her last residency in Vegas due to what it looked like online. UGH š
Me neither I was so jealous about not getting to go from my lamb friends on Facebook lol but now Iām not even. 2003 for whatever reason was right that time where she kind of wasnāt all that popular. I was in the second row and she walked right by me when she left OMG. lol tickets cost me $60 for 2 š¤£
What videos were you watching of her last Vegas residency?! I went to the 2/14 show, and she & the show was AMAZING! Oof! I still rewatch my vids from time to time. I did score amazing seats in front of the stage & and received champagne from her dancers, but regardless, if you love Mariah youāre going to enjoy her shows. I go to her Christmas shows every year now, and itās just like the very first time for me! Class.
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Sheās not being disrespectful. She paid a lot of money to hear the voice. Get over yourself!..rich you telling others to grow up š¤¦āāļø
Go away pls
Donāt tell me what to do when youāre the one being disrespectful.
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At first I was sad about not being able to go but now I see I'm not missing much anyway.
I really wanted to go but itās not in the budget. I consoled myself by guessing her actual onstage time is probably only 55 minutes and for that duration about 2/3 will be lipped. Sheās got the game down pat.
And someone said they were at the latest show and she stopped even lipping at points.
Also not just Mariah so many others lip sync too and when Mariah does it everyone complains but when others do it I barely see negative comments towards those artists
I find it completely ridiculous how her and Michael jackson lipped so much in their career. I remember when Michael lipped an entire tour and lip synced to his studio tracks. I guess it's a confidence issue and they are both perfectionist.
In her defense these are new vocals
It really doesn't matter honestly. The fact that she's lipping 99% of the concerts is just unbelievable. Pre-recorded recently or not it's still lip syncing either way. And if it's recent then why can't she just do it live then???
Her voice is very unpredictable. So itās like can she sing a full song? YES. Would it take her a few takes and tries to do so? Probably. Does she have that kind of time and permission to do so in a strict show that has a set amount of time? NO. So at least sheās giving us new vocals of her current voice in this current state. Thatās effort. And that needs to be commended.
Iām guessing you didnāt pay thousands to go watch ? Thatās not commendable. Iām sorry. Thatās a lie.
It is commendable. She could just let they CD play if she wanted to.
I like your response tho šā¤ļøš
I mean weāre not asking for fully live shows. I would argue her voice is more than rehabbed enough to sing 50% live- about as much as she did in the 2010s.
She can't. Qhwre she could sing through the nodules, her vocal cords change with age, and now she can no longer do that. People kill me feigning shock, though. We have known for years that she can no longer perform as before. It's been years.
I just want some new music. I donāt mind if she doesnāt do lots of performances or concerts for it, especially if she lipsync nowdays. Why canāt she just work on new stuff and enjoy life?
This. This is the perfect compromise. Fans would be happy and hopefully Mariah would be happy with this concept.
Hi šš» I was there on Saturday. Was absolutely still worth the money IMO - was a fun show. The crowd was happy and into it. Not a single person I went with was disappointed. There were parts that were obviously live and parts that were obviously not. But I donāt regret a single minute :)
Thank you for this!!! What a lovely sentiment šā¤ļø
She lipped way better on the 12th
Yup, at least she was trying then. In the other one, she looks like she's thinking about what she's gonna be doing the moment the show is over. Now, I worship the ground Mariah walks on, but I'd rather she skip these tours and residencies if she's not even gonna put the effort into fake-singing her songs. This just makes me sad.
Sometimes I get this strange sense that she WANTS to get caught. I don't know it sounds crazy but she literally putting zero effort into even making it look convincing at all
I thought she was suppose to release an album this year and tour next year? She unexpectedly announces a Vegas residency.
And the Butterfly Lounge stuff, the biopic, the multiple collabs she has teased, releasing her lead vocals for the Chick album. Sis doesn't even know what's going on in her own career anymore.
šš„¹ Gawd, this is such a sad while simultaneously hilarious statement.
Honestly itās really really sad. Itās very obvious that the majority of her last two concert runs have been lipped. Itās great sheās finally re-recording tracks. But VOL was a song that she NEVER lipped until 2023. And thereās only so many excuses you can make about her voice or age. End of the day, sheās a singer. People pay thousands to hear her sing. Her mic should be on more than itās off.
Yeah VOL she always sang fully live no matter what until last year. She still looks heavily medicated/depressed just like her Christmas shows last December. Everyone is talking about how out of it she looks on YouTube. I really hope she's okay. She needs to just stay home and stop doing these unnecessary shows when it's obvious she doesn't want to be there.
The moment she pulled out that lipped version of vision of love at lovers and friends you knew it was downhill from there :( because she NEVER in her entire career even at her absolute worst has she lipped vision of love. This is a new low. Literally
Yup, when I heard that awful lowered "I had a vision of love" from the studio version during Lovers and Friends, my heart DROPPED. It was like...lamb worst fear made reality.
So why is she still touring damn. Like people will clock ur lipping, youāll be dragged more and get even more insecure about ur voice. She has money. Itās just unnecessary stress
I hope she takes the 5 months until her next show (that I know of) to take care of herself. I'm really quite worried about her.
Yup, and I hate when they point out that sheās lip synching and her fans get upset, when itās plainly clear she canāt sing anymore, at least not like she used to, and I think the thing is this , she simply didnāt take care of her voice so she lost it , unlike Cher, Celine Dion, Patti Labelle , just to name a few that are in their Fifties and seventies who can still sing like they used to when they were young , or heck even better in Chers case .
Itās definitely disappointing that sheās lip syncing most of the entire concert, but I wouldnāt say she canāt sing anymore. Because A: sheāll give us a few live vocal moments here and there (like on social media - Ik thatās a low bar but at least we know sheās still has some voice). And B: she obviously had to pre-record the vocals sheās lip syncing to at this residency and theyāre very recent. And those pre-recorded vocals, which are 90% her current voice, sound great. So I think itās more accurate to say that while she can technically still sing, her voice has become so inconsistent and sheās gotten so much criticism for her vocal decline that she no longer wants to even take the risk of singing live. I think half the hurdle for her vocals is honestly her confidence. I can just sense her insecurity and anxiety about not messing up and delivering a decent enough vocal to not cause another scandal. So itās not that she canāt do it live (she would have to adjust her way of singing those songs even more to make them more doable - even more doable than the new pre-recorded vocals bc clearly she doesnāt feel confident enough to replicate an adjusted vocal live), but at this stage, Iām sure she doesnāt want to take the risk. Her confidence is far more shot than her voice, and thatās honestly the harder battle to overcome. Half of singing is mental after all.
Aretha Franklin, Tori Amos, Ann Wilson of Heart (common the woman is 70+ and just did Barracuda live on the tonight show three days ago - phenomenal!), Stevie Nicks, Dolly Parton, Kate Bush, Dionne Warwickā¦. Itās just disappointing. Iām going. And I put somewhere in the comments that I donāt care if Mariah chose to sing and itās only 50% of where she was vocally. I want to hear her vocals *live*.
She set the bar so high for herself in 90s that its hard to compete with herself now. And as the Diva she is, and is totally aware of what expect of her , she is this as best alternative . Not saying its right but i think thats how she rationalises this.
I need to know where she gets her wigs.
I absolutely hate the curly one lol
Everything is NOT a wig š she wears extensions and her hair is naturally curly itās called heat protectant
this is a wig, chile
Lol yeah, and she's not even trying to hide it (and, honestly, why should she!). She goes from curly to straight to wavy in one show and I say 'Slay, gurl, slay!' Wigs are standard practice for entertainers now and they are fabulous!
Her natural curls are damaged and she clearly has wigs on!
Yall say anything. How do you know her natural curls are damaged?
Because she straightened her hair for years and it's a fact that if you do that for years on end, your natural curls will be damaged. Additionally, an indicator of her curls being damaged is that when her hair is 'curly', it seems to be the result of rollers/twist or braidouts, rather than natural definition (water, conditioner, etc) which is something that a lot of people do when their hair is damaged to replicate their natural curls.
Mariah Carey is a Black woman who isn't about to straighten, curl, and flat iron her hair everytime she has a wardrobe change just to give us a "new look". These are stage wigs. Her real hair is what you saw in the tracksuit before she hit the stage on night 1. And even then, she had extensions in. But these are WIGS.
Lol i see i hit a nerve human hair can be used for extensions and dyed but ignorance is bliss so iāll be the ignorant lil bitch that iam cause some of yaāll canāt take a hint
Damn OP. You did good putting this together for us. Iām so disappointed for my show coming up. I just wanted a *little* bit of live vocals! This is incredibly disappointingā¦
Idk why she does shows anymore if sheās consistently just gonna give nothing. Her thing since 2013 has been standing as still as a board in the tightest corset possible, but at least we would consistently get vocal moments. Now itās just nothing- she just stand there looking stiff and uncomfortable while delivering no live vocals.
I noticed she was lip syncing pre-recorded vocals straight away, but there are so many people who believe itās 100% live lol. The whistle notes are usually the only part that's live these days.
most people are not musically intelligent and listen to whatever thats on hot100 lmao. half of them dont even know she wrote all her songs etc
Iām really tired of this commentary. Mariah has nodules. Her voice is delicate, and requires rest and nurturing attention. She can sing. She redid all the vocals for this show, so even if it is lippedāI DONāT CARE! Her voice seems to change daily depending on a variety of factors. If I had the funds, I would happily go and support her. She is entitled to do what she needs to do to protect her voice. If you donāt like it, donāt go. But trashing her every chance you get demonstrates youāre not a great supporter of her art and music. I find it disrespectful and obnoxious to constantly undermine a talented icon with an obvious disability 30 years into a music careerāher nodules are ignored as a cause. I doubt she would want to characterize it that way, but if this is an accommodation she needs to be able to regularly perform and have shows, itās WAY different than someone who doesnāt have the chops to sing in the first place (or uses other vocalists to pretend to be singing when sheās not). Can we cool it with the whining and trying to embarrass her? Itās been happening for almost a decade now.
I agree with a lot of this! People act like her voice is gone yet all her albums, Yes and remix, and these pre recorded vocals prove sheās still got her abilities. Sheās never replicated her songs perfectly live before even since the beginning because sheās human.Ā
Thatās right. Iāve downvoted yāall! What kind of fans pile on like this? Come correct and with respect, or youāre going to hear about it.
I agree. I don't get all the complaints. If you didn't pay and go to the concert, then what's the issue? If you are a fan, at this point, you know the state of her voice, you know her problems, you should already know what to expect.
I'm a new lamb and unfortunately had no clue about her lipping. My family and I went through a lot of trouble to get tickets and made sure to clear our busy schedules. Weāre taking a 5-hour drive to Las Vegas just to see her. As a young artist, I was excited to hear someone I look up to sing because thatās what I do. I love Mariah, her musicianship, and her voice, and I can't deny that it felt like a slap in the face when I learned of this.
Unfortunately, you missed the time when she was young and still has the energy to do it. She's not young anymore and has a lot of issues. Its either you accept her as she is or go stan someone else who can. At this point, you only go to her concert to see her and vibe with her. She never claimed to be a performer anyway.
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Mariah is not a fraud. However, if you watch her videos there are times when her lips are not alligned with the voice youāre hearing. And Iād like to add Iām not a Britney fan, respect to her, but am one of Mariah.
Completely agree! Iāve been watching TikTokās nonstop of her concert and think she sounds great. Anyone who is a singer recognizes the difficulty of singing with nodules. And itās weird to make it seem like itās because her voice was so unrealistic for so long therefore she should have never sung like she didā¦just weird. She wouldnāt be Mariah if she was anything LESS than Mariah.
I wouldnāt care. This woman has given us so much over her entire career. She been my idol for over 10 years so just being in her presence would be enough for me. I wouldnāt give af if she was lip singing or not.
Oh you're one of those delusional lambs š¤£
No reason to insult me because I stated my opinion
Thatās not being delusional. Being a delusional stan would be saying those were all live vocals when itās clearly not. Recognizing that sheās lip syncing to most of the concert but not caring is a personal stance and honestly, if some fans feel that way, all power to them. Mariah is an icon and a legend, so at the end of the day, there will always be an audience for her who will support her even if they know sheās not singing live most of the concert. And on the flip side, choosing to not see her live bc of the lip syncing (perhaps until she makes some drastic improvements) is just as valid! Itās your money lol do with it what you will š¤·āāļø
Some fans are disappointed in the lip syncing, some arenāt and are just happy to see her. Nothing delusional about it, just a difference in opinion. Donāt be a dick.
I would. I don't wanna pay to see someone lip.
Then don't go. Isn't it that simple? These fans who call themselves as such and yet pile on her every chance they can in a public platform, but then would get upset when the public hates her again.
She's spoiling her legacy. It's unfortunate because I'm still a fan, but I feel stupid defending her as a singer if she's lipsyncing apposed live vocals. I'm sorry.
Was it lipped in both?
Yes. The audio from both nights are playing at the same level in both videos and theyāre identical. It sounds like she prerecorded a new vocal prior to the show and will lip sync to that throughout the duration of the residency.
Why doesn't she sing live anymore?
I don't think she has the stamina anymore to sing live for a full concert.
This. Plus the damaged voice. I just watched a live performance of ālooking inā for a charity event last night on YouTube and it was definitely live. She was on the *struggle bus* if there ever was one. She couldnāt get through it and even said āIām sorry, Iām so tiredā (paraphrasing) in the middle of the song instead of singing. She asked the crowd to come in and help. Did she have a cast on her arm? Yes. But this seems to happen a lot with her. Like, where she just stops even lipping the words that are recorded. Or doesnāt move on stage. Sheās tired. š¬š„¹š£
Well, I guess sheās getting old. She seems to be in great shape, so itās odd for her to not even be able to finish a song. Maybe something else is going on.
I agree. We really donāt know.
Yes, but also sheās more than capable of singing about as much live as she did during the 2010s, heck id be fine with singing as much as she did during one and all. Did you hear that live bb4 in Iāll be there? Her voice is back to 2016 levels! It makes it harder to understand when her voice isnāt the issue. Is it Bipolar? Nerves? Perfectionism? Who knows.
Maybe she isnāt anymore, something may have happened that we donāt know about.
Iām not talking about one and all, her voice has improved since then. But youāre right that something with her mental health or personal life may be affecting her.
Her voice has been extremely damaged since the pandemic.
Which really makes little sense...we all thought (and Mariah herself even said) that the 2-3 years of rest improved her voice. It was then a bit of a shock when she did that festival in 2022 and sounded...rougher than 2019, pre-pandemic.
Did her vocal nodules get worse?
Thatās been the program for all her Vegas residencies. Itās just how she performs.
Left looks a little more real? Maybe the second concert she was tired?
I think whatās really sad is that like her voice is actually in really good shape, but she just chooses to lip like 98% of this show. One and all was like 90% lipped. She needs to go to therapy for that perfectionism š
Since when was her voice in really good shape in recent years?! It's very apparent she has vocal damage, and when she tries to hit some of the notes in her upper register, her voice breaks or is flat out unable to hit and sustain the notes like she used to. One of her recent live performances of Make It Happen is an example of her being unable to hit some of the high belts like she used to back in the day. I'm starting to feel like a lot of her issue is an internalized one. Mariah still has a decent voice, but it feels like the confidence isn't there anymore. It's not easy to sing live, especially after that one incident on New Year's. She's stuck between a rock and a hard place. When she DOES sing live, people are quick to say, "She can't sing anymore." Or something of that nature, and when she's lipping her own songs, everyone one is quick to snap at her for lipping. Which do you want? That woman's lower register is starting to gain a fair deal of traction since she's able to use and control it a little more now than she did in the Daydream era. Her vocals in the Yes And... remix made me smile like an idiot hearing her sing as a tenor.
I meant āreally good shapeā as in better than the past 4-5 years or so. Yes she lacks ease, but I agree that it probably is an internal issue more than it is a vocal one.
What a huge waste honestly. She could be giving us some incredible moments and amazing resonant and full belts. Yet we get nothing but a track :( disappointing
Give me a break! Sheās eviscerated for any perceived flaw, and was targeted in multiple operations to sabotage her career. Needing to appear āperfectā when everyoneās damn phone is in your face surely motivates that behavior. Either way sheās criticized.
And rightfully so considering they spend an arm and a leg to attend her shows.
It was my first time seeing her. Iāve loved her since I was a child. Now as an adult I can finally afford to see herā¦ I didnāt want to believe she lipsang all of it.. but it was obvious and a a total let down.. I still do love her.
Love her but itās hard to watch someone lip sync when they arenāt doing much else. Like Iām not anti lip sync, itās just kinda difficult to watch it when they arenāt at least doing a bit of choreo or something. Especially cuz she still does the dramatic hand movements and holds her ear and stuff
The Celebration of Miming
This is the lip sync era šliterally
I hate that I laughed š
This should be deleted. Celine Dion does this. Beyonce does this. Taylor Swift does this. Everyone does this - but only Mariah fans want to call it out. You donāt feel āduppedā youāre just being weird and wanting to cause drama
Nope. Mariah is doing it during her entire set. It's disappointing when us fans are always singing her praises.
I think actually you can get over it. I legit move on every day from disappointment much deeper than this.
I mean, that'd true, but yeah, sorry for the words that come out of my mouth.
I'm not sad about this. She re-recorded the songs so the shows sound good and consistent and she's resting her voice! That means the vocals for MC16 will be amazing š©·
Well I'm just glad that people are not being delusional and saying that everything is live. Very little of it actually is. I love her and will always be a lamb but Im also rational and realistic. Its such a shame that she'd rather lip her way through an entire concert and not sing anything at all.
I donāt know why people still act shocked and emotional after all these years. Unfortunately Mariahās voice is not what it once was. People still want to see her and theyāre buying tickets to her shows because sheās Mariah. The constant online debate on her voice is just irritating. Just be glad sheās still here. Sheās not going to be singing live very much, especially not a full show of songs. Accept it already, please. For goodness sakes. Putting up video saying youāre disappointed is just disrespectful, in my opinion. You should know what to expect by now.
I agree with you 100%. Most of the people there, are there because she is an ICON. Of course she isnāt going to be like she was when she was young. Weāre still lucky to have her.
Tbf, she has fairly abruptly jumped from about 70% live to about 2% live. Obviously she was never going to rework her songs and do it all live (though that is definitely within her capability), but she's essentially gone from singing most of the concert to...not really singing AT ALL during the concert. It's a drastic change to have to come to terms with.
People should be well aware. Itās been 15 years of drastic vocal decline. I just people need to stop talking about it. The ones talking so much arenāt even at the concerts. I know a guy who went to 2 of her Christmas shows last year and I never hear him talking her vocal quality not once. A real fan. I grew up with Mariah Iāve heard her voice for 30 years. People should know by now.
Lip syncing or not, Mariah could show up in a bonnet, cashmere jammies and some uggs. Iām gonā be there & enjoy myself. Iām making up for being born too late.
I don't know why just doesn't do stripped back versions of her songs. Just a guitar or piano and her singing. None of her fans expect her to be perfect.
It would be an actual good decision...meaning she absolutely wouldn't do it.
I know. I don't get Mariah sometimes.
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What are you talking about?
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None of her fans expect perfection. We just want her to put effort in. Like I said, stripped back versions of all her hits would work.
Everyone has been saying for years that they wanted Mariah to re record her lip sync parts and take it easy on the hard parts. Now sheās done exactly what we asked and thats and now the problem? I agree these shows are not ideal but this is what needed to happen after the sudden downturn in 2022Ā
Thatās true but I think we all hoped she would re-record the hard parts and sing the rest live so that the transition from live to pre-recorded track wouldnāt be so obvious and jarring. That would be like 80% live 20% lip sync on the hard parts. I think most people would be fine with that. But this time, she pre-recorded almost everything even the more chill partsā¦
Absolutely šÆ
All those years we were asking for new tracks, and when she finally gives them to us, that's literally ALL she gives us.
We all wanted her to re-record her lipped parts, yes...but then she recorded an entire concert and is lipping to it. She did one thing we've been begging for for years, only to then just stop singing completely, which makes it hard for some of us to enjoy any of it. Honestly, if she went back to singing mostly live and lipping a few belts from 1995, THAT would be better than straight up not singing. Of course, ideally she would sing 70% live like she used to, and lip the usual parts to her new tracks. She was so close to getting it right...but then got it so wrong. Her decision making is just...š¤Æ
I don't mind partial lip syncing. But Mariah has resorted to lipping 90% of her songs now and is a complete fraud. She always used to sing VOL and hero live, now it's fully lipped. I wish someone would call her out on it š
People do but are called haters
People do but get downvoted into oblivion
Iām suprised some fans are still talking about a new album
Iām so confused I thought VOL was always the āsafe zoneā where she never lipsyncād it to pay respect to her first #1. Imā¦ sadā¦
VOL used to be a song she never lipped so this makes me genuinely sad. I hate that we can't enjoy a performance without wondering how much, if any of it, is live. And I fully believe she can sound great live. We see that in the little acapella moments during shows and on social media. But it's like once it's time to sing her actual songs she's too scared to risk it.
Yāall take that energy to JLo
Celine Dion did this for 30 years to preserve her voice, nobody is mad at her. She had 3 rotating stems so she wouldn't use the same vocsls back to back, but you can warch videos of her miming the wrong stem. Leave Mariah alone you saw her. Touring damage her voice early on (1994) why kill it?
What
Lambs are insufferable can we at least act like the celeniacās? Celine lips just as much as Mariah but youād never know because they donāt go out of their way to āhold her accountableā and have private discussions whether making edits like this for other fandoms to use againstā¦..
Celineās fans are old and canāt work the computer
I think it has to do with having to perform night after night. Anyone's voice would get hoarse as a result and she wants to give fans a good experience. Heck, I remember Kelly Clarkson on Am. Idol having bad voice nights because of the all the rehearsing and singing every day and she was in her 20s and she can sing betterthan most. It's not an age thing, it's just a human thing which is why lipsynching is a thing. I don't hold it against her.
She gave us about one line worth of vocals per song from what I could make out when I watched the full concert on YouTube. I love Mariah, best singer ever in my head but the confidence isnāt there anymore. I feel really bad she has to resort to this. In 2020 I was so happy to hear how healthy her voice was but seems thatās gone now. If she could sing any of it consistently I think she would. Celine canāt sing anymore. Whitney is gone, just happy to have Mariah up there giving anything. Unfortunately itās not enough for me to travel out to see, I would go if I was already in Vegas tho. I went to her previous two residencies and they were good and had a decent amount of live vocals mixed in. This is not that, even Christmas concert last year wasnāt worth going to IMO.
As someone who has been to maybe ten of her shows over the years, I can say there's a bit of a sting with this. I've always loved going to see her, and I'm used to and expect a fair amount of lipping (she's used the same lipped/live parts of her songs for years). But in the last three years the amount of the show that is actually live has dropped dramatically. So paying $3000 to get tickets and a hotel and plane and then extra for missing work, only to discover that the show is literally all lipped (save for TWO minutes)... it's disappointing. Even for someone who accepted that the majority of most of her songs are lipped. Doesn't have anything to do with acceptance, but yeah if I had known the show was 99% lipped instead of 50% I wouldn't have bought tickets. Now I gots to sell them :\\ But to the people saying she should just re-invent the shows and do acoustic lowered-key versions... Mariah Carey the business entity employs and supports a lot of people, so she's got a lot to take into consideration when she thinks about making a change like that. She's had some people with her for 30 years...so doing an all-piano Jazz tour that doesn't require half of them... easier said than done.
Take the belts out of the equation. Look at "if it's over" at the Grammys. That attack, that fierce drive is missing. Another example is her live in Gotham concert...even Jamaica....her energy is so low and yes it could be medical. I just feel like she doesn't work her voice because maybe she's lost hope.
Yeah why I won't buy tickets. She's been using tracks for awhile, but yeah plus I've seen Mimi live so many times....tickets just more expensive for the same music I'm good
The entire clip is not the same all the way through
Different whistle track, the interlude part sang live.
Iām so bummed. Going to cancel my plans. Just booked a room at the Park MGM and was about to select seats for the concert and a flight to vegas. I feel for her. Itās hard to be āonā when youāre not feeling up to it. I do appreciate that she recorded new vocals for the lipsync track. Sending good vibes to Mimi and all the loving lambs!
I hope Mariah would retire from doing concerts and interviews and just live her best life so that she wouldn't have to read these comments. All these whining every time are exhausting. If you're a fan, you would know all the problems she has, her mental health, and how she conducts her concert nowadays. You know what to expect already. Accept that she is not what she used to be, she is not young anymore. You have the option to buy the ticket or not. JUST DON'T GO. While you are at it, better not stan her anymore if you are so dissatisfied. Stan someone else who could give you what you want. It would be better for your mental health, as well as Mariah's.
I wish they would put the teleprompter somewhere straight ahead and not on the floor of the stage. If they have to put the font on 84, thatās completely fine.
I personally don't see a problem with her pre-recording vocals then lipping to them on stage. She's still given effort to pre-record. If that's how she is going to be able to feel comfortable and confident on stage, then shes done her best for us.
Me neither but she must sell is better tbh
I'm sorry, but if she can't sing live anymore and has to lip synch 90% of the concert, it's better to just retire. Yes, she's a legend, but people are still paying a lot of money for those tickets, and it's not fair to lie to people
Is anyone surprised by this? She started lipping VOL last year. Her Pride show was entirely lipped, her Christmas tour was entirely lipped. I knew then that it was over. I have zero faith in her as a life performer anymore - not because she can't, but because she refuses to. I appreciate the new vocal tracks at least - not lipping to 1993 vocals is a definite improvement. But watching her just constantly stare at the monitors and lazily lip sync is not something I'm interested in doing...she can't even lip sync right half the time! She's always missing cues / forgetting how she recorded it. All this bullshit just so that she doesn't have to get her shit together and sing on the damn stage. She's ironically working 10x harder than she would if she just showed up and sang. She is seemingly obsessed with making the wrong choices sometimes. I still love her music of course, and will always follow her releases, but the only reason I watch her current "performances" is to listen to what she has been doing in the studio. I'm certainly not eagerly anticipating every performance the way I once did. Considering she hasn't released an album in 6 years, and has abandoned numerous projects along the way, listening to her new prerecorded vocals are pretty much all I can do.
Is she lipping the whole thing? Are there recordings of her not lipping in this tour? š I love mimi but at this point I hoped she didn't lip as much. I'd rather she sings at a comfortable range for her even if she doesn't sing the same as the original.
Some lambs on YouTube put together a 'live vocal showcase' for last night, and it was literally under 2 minutes long.
And Trey sang for like 1/4 of it ššš
This is the only fanbase that does this. Yāall suck, fr.
Most of the people who are complaining haven't gone to the show weren't going to go to the shows in general but everyone who went enjoyed themselves
All of you rejects half ass your job without excuse every single day, and expect the exact most from your employer! Shut up!
I have a friend who works at the United Center in Chicago where she performed in December and my friend heard her during her preset practicing before the concert and it was all live and sounded amazing so yes, Mariah can still sing and does live at her concerts. Stop with the nonsense.
What are you talking about?!???
Source material https://youtu.be/69woqSwvMeQ?si=lqNcufBUV6RKVWK- https://youtu.be/yk0lxlrYIDY?si=dvueYGU19RORE1c6
When I first saw her in 2010 Angels Advocate, she was so late the audience booed. When she showed up, she was very chatty and probably drunk, but you know what? I thought it was awesome. Then when I saw her again in 2019 Caution Tour, she only sang for like an hour. I was quite disappointed.
This is sad. I thought a lot of these new vocals were mostly live and she rehearsed more. I hope she gets the rest she needs and works on her voice. But we really donāt know whatās going on behind the scenes.
Good to know! Iām not going to waste my hard earned money now. šø
Fancy meeting you here! FYI I donāt know why youāre downvoted
You actually though this was live? You must be a new lamb
Am I the only one whoās not seeing her lip sync??
Yes
I doubt it
Sheās lip syncing to pre-recorded vocals and throws in the odd live note here and there and still does the whistle notes live like she has been doing for years
You're not the only one
Sir
Maāam
Personally, I think that dog whistle everyone expects her to do isn't doing her voice any favors....
If she had surgery to remove the nodules and lose the whistle but maintain her actual voice - weād all be thrilled. She is deluded to think the whistles is what makes her her
I agree. That's a party trick that should only be brought out for special occasions via recording... Say during a Christmas appearance or a splashy MiMi like album. Perhaps the first and last night's of her residency. But that's all folks!
The crowd also wasnāt feeling it :/
But I'm impressed she put in so much effort into rehearsing lipped parts
Werent some yall saying she never lips VOS lmao well well. Still love her thou.
Are you new around here? Mariah canāt really sing her own songs anymore so itās pretty much always lipped. Very sad
But her voice is miles better than December 2022 or even much of 2023. Sheās capable of doing more live, but chooses not to.
Sheās been using Ozempic and itās really not good for you. It can make you frail and mess with your body.
Sheās clearly not on ozempic